Morning Call
[7:44am ET] Long time readers know that I have consistently held the view that extreme volatility in the forex market has destroyed the fundamental price discovery basis of equity markets. Proprietary (i.e., in-house) traders at Humungous Bank & Broker (HB&B) and associated hedge funds (i.e., clients they lend short-term funds to) are gaming the system. Something must be done about this.
For years I have said that companies that deal in international trade in goods and services are also being destroyed, and that there needs to be a General Agreement on Currencies by the G-20 countries.
Another solution to this dilemma might be for the International Association of Securities Commissions (IOSCO) to require any company that lists shares on more than one stock exchange to have the shares traded in one currency only. There are, in fact, many US Dollar denominated listings on the Toronto Stock Exchange, so there is legal precedent and the technology and operational requirements are simple.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Organization_of_Securities_Co...
Trading in the shares of Royal Bank of Scotland (NYSE:RBS LSE:RBS) this week is an example of the problem. Actually, RBS, with respect to conflict of interest and bad management practices, should be a business school case study in every university in the world. The Wiki information is stunning in this regard.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Bank_of_Scotland_Group
This past week in trading on the NYSE, RBS (new ADR’s) closed December 31 at $9.39 on 199,200 shares ($1.9 million). On January 4, the first day of trading in 2010, RBS opened at $10.27 and closed at $10.43 on 614,900 shares ($6.4 million). In other words, trading basically chump change over 6½ hours, the shares of one of the world’s largest companies (by assets) increased its $33 billion market capitalization by +11.08%. More than half of this increase happened AFTER the London Stock Exchange (where most RBS trading occurs) was closed.
Hogwash! IOSCO needs to clean up its act.
I will repeat a statement from yesterday’s post-close report:
In our team's average of nearly 30 years of trading, none of us can ever remember an opening week to a new year as dull, boring, and as inactive as the past few days. Normally institutions are extremely active rebalancing their portfolios, and money managers are busy putting new cash to work, causing hour after hour of whippy up and down action. But this is eerily quiet, strangely subdued; something is happening behind closed doors, and not privy to boardroom maneuvers. We’ll just have to wait to see the outcome.
The year 2009 will go down in equity market history as the most corrupt ever, and 2010 is looking no better. Nobody believed the Mark-to-Market accounting practices of HB&B in 2005 and 2006 with respect to asset-back securitization programs, and it appears to me that we don't believe equity market prices today either.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark-to-market_accounting
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asset-backed_security
Ask yourself how RBS capitalization could lift over +6% (or >$2 billion) on about 200,000 shares of trading (~$2 million) in the afternoon (ET) of January 4. I say this market is as phony as a three dollar bill.
Trying to protect wealth today has become a serious challenge... But, we must try.
Today's US Jobs Report usually comes with intense spin, so the volatility may pick up this morning. Also, Templeton's Mark Mobius is now calling for a major sell-off in equity prices.
http://www.moneycontrol.com/news/market-outlook/mark-mobius-seesbull-mar...
CTA Trading Desk Report
Although the unemployment numbers released this morning dashed optimistic hopes for a modest improvement in the US economy (consensus was for no job losses vs. an actual loss of -85,000), a moderately down opening in the equity markets saw no follow-through selling, with prices slowly plodding upward, finishing slightly higher by the closing bell (S&P +0.29%).
All in all today’s session was another listless, narrow-range exercise in futility, with yesterday’s losers being bought and winners being sold; you have to love the black box trading of the prop shops.
Citigroup lowered estimates on a few banks and brokerages prompting profit taking in Morgan Stanley (MS -2.02%), Goldman Sachs (GS -1.89%) and Bank of America (BAC -0.89%), which had been some of the big winners from the previous day.
After a few days in the doghouse, the robots deemed the technology sector ridiculously cheap, generating buy orders like there was no tomorrow, pushing up high-beta leaders Cognizant (CTSH +2.90%), Amazon.com (AMZN +2.71%), and Google (GOOG +1.31%).
Yesterday, the buyers couldn’t buy financials fast enough, running from tech as quickly as they could. Ask yourself, what on earth changed in 24 hours? Absolutely nothing; and maybe that is the reason volume has suddenly evaporated from the market. If one investment bank is making 100 million dollars a day under these conditions (and the chaotic trading of last spring), perhaps the owners of capital have gotten tired of being fleeced in a rigged game.
The old adage “never short a dull market” seems to be ringing true today, words of wisdom to follow in this environment.
Traders wonder if a slow grind higher can simply run, stall out and mark the ultimate high for the move. It may make more sense that this advance will end on a news induced morning spike higher that soon afterwards dramatically reverses, with huge volume driving prices lower on the day.
Steady as she goes; don’t shoot until you see the whites of their eyes.
Have a great weekend.
Comments
Watch for a great jobs report
And if mkts sell off, the excuse will be "interest rate hike fears since recession is over"
Cara 100 Ratings Changes
Good morning.
DB - Upgraded to Buy @ UBS
gold here
this isnt shocking imho.
all the signs were there the past few sessions as noted on tuesday of this week, we had the run up to the 1140 resistance point, failure then a stiff plunge down especially right before market open after a few sessions run up on lackluster volume.
shocked shocked they will cry!! doctored jobs report! a head fake!!
they will chant this all the way down to $1020 gold and 80 on the USDX should we go there.
the only way out imho of this is a sudden and strong bounce back off the $1094 area as people awaken to the reality of what gold has been signaling long term, not simply the short term jumps and flips. i still watch for those 50 dollar days that i suspect will become all to common going forward in the gold market. *puts on Horatio voice from CSI Miami* "the question is dear friends, which direction will those days be?"
melt up will continue until the black swan hits
I think I've figured it out. The market will continue to advance until the world encounters such a devastating black swan that generates so much selling that it overwhelms the Fed Hedge Fund's ability to stop the decline. But I think "normal bad news" just won't move things in any dramatic way.
Here's why: in the current low volume environment, the Fed Hedge Fund can beat back the current level of traders interested in shorting - especially now that 9 months have passed without any major declines.
My belief is, given a clever computer algorithm, a reasonable amount of firepower, and a high enough short interest, a computer could apply that firepower at a tipping point (such as a news item release, such as "good pending home sales numbers" - situations that are ripe for short squeezes. It might even make money - but it doesn't need to, it just needs to be "revenue neutral."
Citing "national security" the Fed could develop a rather complete picture on the overall level of short interest and stops from each of the market makers. A regulator could easily make that information a requirement from its market makers. They might even have this information real time. They don't need it from everyone - just 20-30% of the volume would be good enough.
Multiplying the effort is the clever market makers who would watch the Fed Hedge Fund's actions and follow along behind them, giving new meaning to the advice "don't fight the Fed."
Lastly, tack on various stop-tripping tactics, such as periodic major gap-up opens in selected stocks and/or momentary flash highs at the open, and you have a recipe for a continuous melt up such as we have seen lately.
I don't pretend to be an expert trader like Bill. But when he says repeatedly this environment is nothing like he's ever seen before, I listen. And, I am an expert software engineer, and in my experience this kind of program is not only possible, it is something that given enough time and experimentation, I could develop in a reasonable amount of time were I employed by the PPT to move the stock market back up to pre-crash levels "by any means necessary" - all in the name of national security, of course.
After all, who would possibly complain? Short sellers? When all the voters are mom and pop and folks who depend on their pension fund's stock market returns?
Of course, corporate insiders and wall street folks "in the know" get rich along the way too - Goldman's streak of 100M dollar days - but would you rather have all those 401ks and pension funds drained dry? That sure sounds like a national security issue to me.
I mean, we handed trillions to wall street. What's a little market manipulation done in the name of saving pensions of retirees?
Circumstantially here, we have:
* means - Fed firepower, a hypothetical but not too difficult-to-develop computer program
* motive - manipulating the market back to pre-crash levels "saves the pensions and retirement funds for all americans"; in addition, given all the bailouts we've seen, why would we think the equity market is somehow sacrosanct?
* opportunity - Fed is in a position to demand information, execute trades through proxies, and is secretive
So I have to ask myself, do I really want to go short anymore, and fight the Fed?
At the same time, do I want to support the long case, when I know
a) it's morally corrupt and
b) the coming black swan will absolutely crush all of this deck-chair-rearrangement game in the fullness of time
False hopes for jobs-based economic recovery dashed
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Economy-sheds-85000-...
Sub-Pennying
This is probably not news to the experienced traders who participate on this forum, but the following article provides an interesting insight into one way programmatic HFT has corrupted the markets.
Sub-Pennying
Other articles on this site describe how HFT programs can crash markets. An example of this was yesterday in the trading of RMBS.
And note to davidfairtex - this goes right to the situation you describe about programmatic manipulation of the markets.
Re: False hopes for jobs-based economic recovery dashed
but that too can be spun as "interest rates will remain low for some time"
Re: melt up will continue until the black swan hits
davefairtex,
Thank you for an excellent write-up.
Money flow is the name of the game. When volume picks up, we need to watch price trends as the short ETF's will be jumped on by big money players and this market could fall dramatically. But at some point, the selling will exhaust itself and there will be a remarkable rebound.
Keys will be $USD, $WTIC (Crude Oil) and $GOLD/$SILVER.
"Go West young man!"
"China to Start Index Futures, Margin Trade, Shorting"
I guess GS will clean up there too.
http://bit.ly/6GjAOi
Re: melt up will continue until the black swan hits
Beautiful post!
London Banks Double Pay to Lure Talent
http://bit.ly/4W54X0
Re: False hopes for jobs-based economic recovery dashed
And pre-market trading in TLT/TBT has responded accordingly. But more muted than one might expect.
Re: gold here
Gold lifting after jobs report $1122 to $1137.
Re: melt up will continue until the black swan hits
Dollar and oil down, bonds and PMs up.
well well well
the ink barely dry on my last post and gold jumps.
if we move above and beyond $1140 on this w/ volume in the gold miner, ill be back to fully invested and ride the rocky waves forward, hopefully.
a jump back to the prior resistance point wouldnt be out of the question, lets watch and see the battle at $1140.
Cara 100 Update
AMAT - Upgraded to Buy @ Needham. PT = $18
APA - Howard Weil Resumes Coverage with a Market Perform. PT Raised from $108 to $113
GRMN - Upgraded to Sector Perform @ RBC. PT = $33
KO - Downgraded to Neutral @ JP Morgan
WFMI - Soleil Initiates Coverage with a Hold. PT = $29
Morning Input by Bill
Another solution to this dilemma might be for the International Association of Securities Commissions (IOSCO) to require any company that lists shares on more than one stock exchange to have the shares traded in one currency only. There are, in fact, many US Dollar denominated listings on the Toronto Stock Exchange, so there is legal precedent and the technology and operational requirements are simple.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Organiz......
I think this is great stuff you are doing Bill; the awareness raising so that us people can know what it is we fight for and how we can achieve a better equation than HB&B want for us and our children...thanks so much! Someone out there needs to wake up and start talking about this. I not only think this is possible, but probable, only someone has to pick the ball up and go for a score.
eDIT:
If one looks into IOSCO, there seems to be a plethora or cornucopia of regulating bodies that would be interested in a nice summary or paragraph even containing simple and non-detracting ways the IOSCO could function as a guiding body; I think by focusing these perhaps disparate or perhaps disorganized bodies on their presumed mandate, which is to protect securities markets, a good outcome for the markets and its participants can be achieved. Enough said, lets hope someone finds it worthwhile, I know I do and Bill does, to pursue this line of reasoning.
UXG-My PM stock of the year.
Started as a buy by Dahlman Rose this morning. Up 3.5% this morning to $2.64. (Note-my cost $2.25 area)
Cara 100 Update
JCP - Upgraded to Neutral @ Government Sachs
Surprising resilience
The markets seem to be holding up fairly well even in the face of unexpected news. The financials seem to be holding up even better than the S&P/DJI. I have to agree with the meltup theory - nothing seems to shake the market. If I look at the SPY, it looks extended, but the daily uptrend is still intact - we bounced off short-term support at around 113.25. We aren't anywhere close to that yet today. Melt-up continues.
Re: Surprising resilience
True, but look at the bond market. They aren't fooled.
SEED
Bounced right off support this morning. For all those who deny the value of tech analysis. ;)
IMMU get Lupus patent...
HGSI rival
CYCC: Should of.. Would of.. Could of..
Lesson learned. It is ok to buy a news driven pop if that pop is caused by the news that a company discovered the cure for cancer(:.
Bob
Question for Vad or Others
Like most traders trying to maximize success, I keep careful records. For the past 10 weeks or so, I'm having fairly "dramatic" alternating weekly performance, weakly positive or negative alternating with strongly positive. Consciously, I'm not doing anything different. No psychological debility from this as net-net doing fine.
Random noise or have you encountered anything like this?
Great read from Danielle Park...
http://www.jugglingdynamite.com/blog/_archives/201...
Re: Question for Vad or Others
Ron, fantastic question. Trading record analysis open an amazing window into internals of our trading.
When I see my performance deviating significantly from the median, my first question is: is it me or the market? In other words, something changed in the way market behaves or I violate my trading rules? Notice that usually it's pretty obvious without doing any extended analytic work - but I do it anyway, for the reason I'll show at the end. So, the way to answer that question for me is to:
- pull the charts for each trade;
- put my entry and exit on them;
- superimpose broad market chart over stock's chart (SPY for listeds, QQQQ for NASDAQ, specific sector for those that follow it mostly, like FAS for financials)
Now, when I have my charts with entries and exits on them, I immediately see whether my trades are done in accordance to my setups, or I decided that I am a trading god and can do whatever I please and expect stocks to go my way anyway. I mean I know my chart configurations well and by a single glance at the chart with my entry marked on it I can see whether it was done according to those. If not - well, I got my answer and my recipe for the correction - stop being an arrogant idiot thinking he is above the market, and trade your system.
If yes - then I have my answer: it's some changes in the way the market behaves that made my performance more random. Looking at my entries and exits, comparing stock's behavior with that of the market, this review shows me why they didn't work as usual and what should have been done differently in order to incorporate the changes in the market. And herein lies the reason why I do these analysis, even though I usually know intuitively the answer to my core question. This reason is: as I get my answer in such formal fashion, I simultaneously and automatically get the instructions what and how to correct.
Hope it helps! There is more about troubleshooting and fine-tuning of one's trading by using this kind of analysis in The Master Profit Plan.
One last relevant comment. Those who read our trading logs probably noticed one pattern: after a certain period of steady winning streak we run into 2-3 days, rarely a week, of weak performance; then things get back to normal and winning streak resumes. This pattern is caused by exactly what is described above: when market behavior changes, there is a natural lag between that change and our adjustment. To a certain degree one can expect changes coming but I don't know any single trader who can constantly re-adjust on the go with no transition period.
Re: Surprising resilience
Number 2 (and others),
What about the bond market are you looking at?
(I'm a absolute novice when it comes to bonds.)
Thanks!
-Dave
Re: melt up will continue until the black swan hits
Davefairtex, I stopped thinking about shorting the market a couple of weeks ago,I came to the conclusion that they will not be switching off the antigravity machine for the markets anytime soon(edit:although a change could come out of the blue at any time ), unless it breaks down i.e. otherwise known as another Black Swan event(As you mention) occurs and control gets away from them.
So what I am doing at the moment is to add a few stocks with a tight stop loss using the RSI7 system Daily ,Weekly buy signals, so that I can benefit if the markets keep moving higher.
Market Breadth
Despite the rally back in Tech, Transport, RUT, I noticed that $TRIN is elevated and down volume has increased in % against up volume throughout the morning. Something is afoot?
Times article on what people are not supposed to know about the
secret world of the New York Fed. Just the tip of the iceburg, but none-the-less it will take a back seat to Obama's grandstanding about the security issues of the US airlines and the 16 year old panty bomber. HUMMMMM!
Maybe terrorist threats from abroad are getting more attention then the threats the American people have right at home in our financial system run by the New York FED, via appointments to our government...........
NEWYOK TIMES
By MARY WILLIAMS WALSH
January 7, 2010
New revelations that the government stopped the American International Group from revealing information about its bailout had securities lawyers and policy makers buzzing on Thursday about whether the information had to be disclosed under federal securities law, and if so, what to do about the lack of compliance.
Joel Seligman, a historian of the Securities and Exchange Commission, said the disclosure rules were supposed to apply to all public companies, with only a few narrow exceptions for things like trade secrets and national security. There was no exception for “too big to fail” companies on federal life support, he said. Companies are supposed to disclose all information that could be material, though that term is not clearly defined.
“When an organization is troubled, it actually makes disclosures of this kind more important,” Mr. Seligman said.
Others disagreed, saying that bank and insurance regulators normally keep their discussions with struggling financial institutions private, to keep from inciting runs. There has always been tension, one securities lawyer said, between banking regulators, who want to resolve problems behind closed doors, and the federal securities laws, which compel disclosure.
The latest concerns that the government was suppressing important information about A.I.G. arose on Thursday after Representative Darrell Issa, a Republican of California, obtained e-mail messages between the insurer and the Federal Reserve Bank of New York, in which a Fed lawyer told A.I.G. “there should be no discussion” of certain details of the bailout in a regulatory filing.
The e-mail messages dealt with one of the most controversial aspects of A.I.G.’s bailout: that the Fed was paying the insurer’s trading partners 100 cents on the dollar for their soured investments. A.I.G. cited this fact, but the lawyer crossed the reference out.
The Fed also struck a paragraph about other investments that could not be unwound.The New York Fed said on Thursday that it was offering advice, not orders, and that the second reference was irrelevant and did not apply to the transaction that A.I.G. was describing in its regulatory filing.
Securities requirements aside, Mr. Issa said this secretiveness flew in the face of good public policy and said he wanted to bring the Treasury secretary, Timothy F. Geithner, to Capitol Hill “to get every side of the story and understand what the motive and intent was of these actions.”
Mr. Geithner was president of the New York Fed at the time of the e-mail exchange. The contents of the messages were first reported by Bloomberg News.
As part of its bailout, the government took a 79.9 percent stake in A.I.G., and Mr. Issa said he thought taxpayers had the right to know the details of the company’s finances.
Meg Reilly, a spokeswoman for the Treasury, said that Mr. Geithner “played no role in these decisions and indeed, by Nov. 24, he was recused from working on issues involving specific companies, including A.I.G.”
The messages showed that in December 2008, A.I.G. was preparing a filing to explain how it had eliminated a portfolio of derivatives, known as credit-default swaps, through an entity created with the Fed called Maiden Lane III.
The swaps served as insurance on debt securities held by financial institutions around the world. Maiden Lane III bought up the debts, making the financial institutions whole and allowing A.I.G. to tear up the swaps.
One troublesome set of swaps, worth about $10 billion, could not be torn up, because they did not insure debts that could be bought by Maiden Lane III — they insured amorphous bundles of derivatives. A.I.G. has never found a way to cancel them, and they are still in force.
The existence of these particular swaps has been controversial, because they suggest that A.I.G. and its trading partners were dealing not just in newfangled insurance, but in highly speculative bets on the real estate markets.
The Fed’s lawyer, Ethan T. James, of Davis Polk & Wardwell, deleted all references to the $10 billion in swaps that could not be torn up. He wrote in the margin: “There should be no discussion or suggestion that A.I.G. and the N.Y. Fed are working to structure anything else at this point.”
After receiving his instructions, A.I.G. deleted the reference to the $10 billion derivatives problem from its filing.
An official of the New York Fed said its reasons for telling A.I.G. not to mention the $10 billion of special swaps were innocuous. The New York Fed issued a statement by its general counsel, Thomas C. Baxter, saying it was “appropriate” to have given A.I.G. guidance on what to say in the S.E.C. filing, because the New York Fed had helped create Maiden Lane III.
Re: Market Breadth
I think after setting the discount rate to zero they now try the get the VIX to zero.
page two New York Times Article
By MARY WILLIAMS WALSH
Published: January 7, 2010
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/08/business/economy...
the VIX heading for single digits?
http://bit.ly/7svYhE
I know its not a company but maybe they should just delist it.
More Q4 Estimate Cut in Banks
FYI. Citigroup Latest To Cut Q4 Estimates In Bank-Land (GS, JPM, MS, BA).
- January 8, 2010 11:07 AM EST, from StreetInsider.com
C down the most for the day.
http://tinyurl.com/yhkwrbq
" Contrary opinion works because
it capitalizes on assets that are mispriced, both too high and too low. And, importantly, it lowers the risk if you are wrong. Employing a contrarian investment strategy doesn't insure investment success, but it is a good place to start ".. Bill Fleckenstein...
Every 10 cent gas price increase is $ 14 Billion per year
taken out of consumer spending... Yet, every financial entertainment network is harping how the economy is ' recovering '.... Lets see, gas was around $ 1.80 last year...
White House Stands Behind Geithner
Says Tim Was Not Involved In AIG Email Fiasco, http://www.zerohedge.com/print/52963
How much more can we take? How much?
Re: White House Stands Behind Geithner
Good!
Maybe they'll both be hit by the same lightning bolt of public opinion :-)
today
With the buck off 0.64%, the following sectors have:
The pump:
* oil equipment
* gold miners
* semiconductors
* oil, gold, silver
The dump:
* REITs
* Financials
This set of sector moves makes sense.
Yet in the overall market, the melt-up continues once again. The market started down -4.5, recovered almost immediately - at the same time the dollar made a nice move UP, and is now positive. When the Fed Hedge Fund can do this with just a couple of servers in a "revenue neutral" manner, why not? Why not have the market go up instead of down? If you were President and you could control the situation, what would you choose?
Re: today
davefairtex -
You missed railroaders. UNP, NSC, and Buffett's CSX on the move on the dollar dump because of their monster PP&E (hard assets) safety on light volume (GS, PIMCO and Fed trades).
"When the Fed Hedge Fund can do this with just a couple of servers in a "revenue neutral" manner, why not? Why not have the market go up instead of down? If you were President and you could control the situation, what would you choose?"
Smith's Invisible Hand will cost you the next election if not more for fixing THE MARKET comes to mind.
Re: CYCC: Should of.. Would of.. Could of..
Took a good sized position a few minutes after Vadym mentioned it yesterday afternoon, got greedy and held this morning after watching it hit $4 and booked my profits this afternoon for a 38.5% gain. Now, if I were attending the conference next week, I'd buy him a drink!
Re: Question for Vad or Others
Yes! I had a couple of good day and a couple of bad ones. But I am paying particular attention to the DOW. The "Stock Traders Almanac" states:
"The 36 up first five days were followed by full year gains 31 times for an 86.1% accuracy ratio."
however it specifically excludes election years:
"In midterm election years this indicator has been a spotty record - almost a contrary indicator. in the last 15 midterm years only 7 have followed the direction of the first 5 days and only one of the last (2006). The first full month January Barometer has a better midterm record of 66.7% accuracy."
Fannie 30yr Bond vs. 10yr Treasury = lowest spread in 17 yrs!
Now is a perfect time to be getting into real estate in America.
The narrowing spread between the Fannie 30yr Bond and the 10yr Treasury is now the lowest in 17 years. Pension funds and foreign treasuries like to buy bonds and treasuries because they have been 'safe' with similar yields and risk. The pattern has been disrupted by our US guberment who has been buying up 30 year coupons and upset the tracking of coupons and treasuries. (Besides investors becoming increasingly concerned about the 'ahem' value and ROI of our financial vehicles.)
The Fed has essentially bought interest rates down by lowering the spread. Nowadays, it would cost you on average, 3 points to buy that benefit (to lower your interest rate by 1%) which equals a real fee that your government is paying for you, Mr or Mrs homebuyer or refinancer, on your behalf. 3 points on a $250,00 loan is $7,500.
It is estimated this equals about $14,000 in benefits between the buydown and tax credit for first time buyers. The difference in 5% and 6% over 30 years in interest payments on a $250,000 loan is worth $56,452.09 over the life of the loan. Factor in the lower sale prices and you do the math. By May 1, 2010, the tax credits go away (veterans have longer) so expect this party to end around that date. Just in time for summer sales to get pumped. Perhaps time to adjust your HB&B window of opportunity.
If you are buying or refinancing, just be ready for the new improved and confusing RESPA laws, 3 page 2010 GFE and "Mother, may I" process that makes getting a mortgage these days feel like running a long distance marathon.
Re: Question for Vad or Others
Everyone on the blog seems to agree that this market is rigged. If that is true (and I believe as well), then how one can follow traditional charts and signals (handles, etc.) as these indicators were developed under totally different sets of axioms and do not apply any longer. Are they working for you?
I just try to absorb as much political info as I can, trying to figure out were they want the market to be. Most the time it can be done for a very short interval (mostly one day) since the movers themselves are vey erratic and react to every small event. They seem to know their strategy but unsure of tactics.
Listening to the "taking heads" generally gives understanding of the projected direction.
I strongly believe that market's level is unsustainable and playing for downturns using ETFs (SDS,...) limits the risk and creates good potential for big profit when it falls. Taking small profits ($.10 - $.50) works for me and keeps me in SDS for the moments when it goes down sharp ($1.00 - $1.50). It is not possible to catch all sharp turns, but several are enough.
Again, can somebody share if traditional approach still works?
Re: Fannie 30yr Bond vs. 10yr Treasury = lowest spread in ...
Hi Loannet - I have been trying to figure out the new good faith estimate for days now and still don't really have a clue, and like you I do this for a business. Borrowers hate the presentation, and all it really does is help to eliminate bad actors who I understand have mostly left the business. Like the HVCC (Home Valuation Code of Conduct) I expect this nonsense to get repealed when the "Hope & Change's" unintended consequences comes to the forefront.
I wonder which companies may stand to benefit most from the latest Hope & Change waste of taxpayer funds to promote clean energy - I expect the best use would not be grants (tax credits), but rather loan guarantees for real clean energy like nuclear, but I don't think that would fit the bill for real Hope & Change political backers. It would seem none of them understand a base load capacity vs. a peak load capacity provided by the real "green" electrical sources of hydro & fission. Happy Trading All
Re: Question for Vad or Others
I am out. Not participating. Until natural forces come back, i will only buy on crashes.
It's sort of like when you are at the roulette table, and every spin is red. Yet each spin is independent of each other, so watching past performance really doesnt mean black is coming up even after 20 consecutive reds. How can anyone invest hard earned wealth in this environment?
You're better off buying a gun, bullets, paying of your mortgage so you have a place to protect, and a low mileage Ferrari, and live your life to the fullest.
Coming for Our 401K's Next?
"The U.S. Treasury and Labor Departments will ask for public comment as soon as next week on ways to promote the conversion of 401(k) savings and Individual Retirement Accounts into annuities or other steady payment streams, according to Assistant Labor Secretary Phyllis C. Borzi and Deputy Assistant Treasury Secretary Mark Iwry, who are spearheading the effort."
http://tiny.cc/jAZhn
Re: Question for Vad or Others
"Everyone on the blog seems to agree that this market is rigged. If that is true (and I believe as well), then how one can follow traditional charts and signals (handles, etc.) as these indicators were developed under totally different sets of axioms and do not apply any longer. Are they working for you?"
This is exactly why I dislike all this "market is rigged" chants. Great for social rants and venting, harmful for one's trading mindset. It doesn't even matter whether they are true or not - as soon as one takes this position, learning becomes unneeded. Why learn to trade if THEY will do whatever they please?
Yes, all chart formations and indicators work as they always did.
In addition, let me suggest on this same topic:
http://www.realitytrader.com/blog/2009/08/manipula...
http://www.realitytrader.com/blog/2009/08/trading-...
Re: Coming for Our 401K's Next?
Hi All - Of course this is at the urging of Goldman & Morgan et.al. so they can benefit from the cash flow stream on this type of conversion plan. Just like changes in the mortgage business - all intended to direct the business to the larger banks - who as we have seen relative to credit card fees & unreasonable card rate hikes will only hurt customers and our free market system for the benefit of Wall Street and the leftist elite. Happy Trading
Re: Fannie 30yr Bond vs. 10yr Treasury = lowest spread in ...
loannetter -
Nice details but you should also mention that housing values are going down much further due to end of tax credit, rising interest rates, and flood of foreclosed homes. Wait and that $14,000 buy down for a 100-basis-point spread/tax handout(with deadline to prop the market up) to save $56,452.09 (minus the points?) can be realized in the price discount come Springtime. I suppose you could argue for a 30-year lock before rates rise (rates must, of course, rise if Fed rates are zero and that's just plain ol' bad for real estate values too) and bet on the hyperinflation b-e-f-o-r-e housing reaches AFFORDABILITY. If that's your client's strategy, just be sure to tell them not to lose their ability to pay the note, right?!
Short story: A professional couple, old friends, moved back to my area - Ann Arbor, Michigan - shortly after the financial crisis (Q4 07) with lots of cash after serendipitously selling their home in Pittsburgh at the true all time market peak. I advised them to wait as the fundamentals (automaker bankruptcies, especially) looked exceptionally bleak. To no avail as they're consumer instincts kicked in and they snapped up a McMansion four-times too big for their needs (child gone to college) with the ubiquitous granite countertop and a stupidly high energy bill all at a "bargain" and now find themselves underwater and soon to be unemployed (both) with the house on the market below investment after less than two years. They're job seeking out of state.
Advice is only satisfying if it's taken.
Consumer Credit Plunges $17.5 Billion On Consensus Of -$5 B
Thats 17.5B of consumer spending that just vanished from earnings reports.
So when they report record profits and sales, should i suspect the Fed to also be buying built up inventory from Amazon.com?
Re: Question for Vad or Others
I am going to strongly disagree with all this. Try to stop reading aggravating news and switch to reading the charts, and you will find out they work just the same.
Re: Question for Vad or Others
I'll give it a shot. but at this time i believe it's too risky to trade any relevant amount of money. And i wasn't serious about buying a gun and bullets. although its a constitutional right.
I highly doubt a correction here at these levels will be an orderly one. the only chart that attracted me lately was DRYS basing, http://bit.ly/7v3LZT.
Re: Question for Vad or Others
I intend to keep trading. I will of course watch the market keenly and be ready to sell on a moments notice. I enjoy trying to make a few dollars.
Re: Question for Vad or Others
I intend to keep trading. I will of course watch the market keenly and be ready to sell on a moments notice. I enjoy trying to make a few dollars.
Re: Question for Vad or Others
Oh come on, it's all in your head, and you know it. Risky? How is intraday trading any more risky these days than it was, say in April-May when you, fresh from last conference, traded off charts and did very well? Let me show you just the first call of today:
[09:41] {Threei} Long Setup: IXCT 9 break
[09:43] {Threei} if sets up from here, stop under 8.90
Look at 1 min chart, see what happened. Nice and easy 1:2, close to 1:3. And the point is not even in profitable call, it's just a routine - some are profitable, some are not. The main point is - it's a standard setup, I trade it for years. Works today as it would a year ago or 5 years...
Don't mesmerize yourself out of action with all this BS that happens at all levels of the society. However they screw up all fields of our life, it's still OUR life - let's guard it from being impacted by corrupted imbeciles to the degree of us being unhappy. Nobody says "never mind and be happy" - rather do with your life what you want and not what they dictate, and first step in this direction is - preserve your financial independence by honing and applying your skills. Market has endless opportunities every day.
Re: Question for Vad or Others
Sorry it took me some time to read your links, thank you. I did like your articles and agree with the need to learn and not to find excuses. However, The "thin Markets" are disqualified and that what we currently have. I agree with "TRADE WHAT YOU SEE, NOT WHAT YOU THINK". Except you see the charts reflecting the situation, where I see the situation creating the charts - technical vs. behavioral. It does take quite a bit of learning to filter the noise and study the situation, and, of course, ones social position has big influence.
Technical analysis may or may not reflect current political direction. I just wanted to know if old technical methods still generate positive results.
Re: Question for Vad or Others
ICXT?
Re: Question for Vad or Others
"Except you see the charts reflecting the situation, where I see the situation creating the charts - technical vs. behavioral."
Ummm... :)
Last thing I want to do is to engage in semantics, but if situation creates the charts, don't charts reflect the situation by definition? :)
Also, technical vs behavioral? Charts reflect mass psychology and behavior - and conduce certain behavior - which in turn again gets reflected in chart - etc, in never-ending feedback-feedforward loop. Technicals are just the tools to read the behavior, nothing more.
Please note that by this I mean only the behavior of the forces engaged in trading, not the broader definition involving political landscape. While everything is connected to everything else, one can't broaden the scope of analysis endlessly, there must be some reasonable limit necessary and sufficient for making timely decisions. I make this additional comment because of this remark: Technical analysis may or may not reflect current political direction" - it's a bit beyond the scope I discuss.
Re: Question for Vad or Others
"if situation creates the charts, don't charts reflect the situation by definition?" - correct, my mistake, the word reflect was not appropriate.
A handle on chart makes a trader to react, mostly ignoring all else, creating a new trading situation reflected in the new chart; where as social "handle' makes a trader to react, mostly ignoring techs, creating a new trading situation reflected in the new chart. One moment - one iteration. I think a hen was created 1st, then an egg. This model suites me better at this point in time.
Re: Question for Vad or Others
Well, that's exactly what "Trade what you see, not what you think" addresses. When available information (and our interpretation of it) dictates one course of action while chart says otherwise, that slogan governs a trader to go with chart. The practical outcome of trading based on one's model vs based on chart action in the only valid criteria by which one can make that choice. Mine is made 12 years ago, which is when and why I came up with the slogan.
Re: Question for Vad or Others
I always liked your slogan and used it on several occasions but without a reference, sorry.
CZZ - Cosan found practising slavery
Talk about an issue of capital markets and social equity; the world's largest sugar processor, ethanol producer Cosan, has been found by Brazil's gov't to be engaged in practises resembling slavery with certain of its workers.
Brazil's national development bank (BNDES has pulled its loans to the company.
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601086&si...
I've been skeptical of some "social equity" mutual funds, but I don't think I'll buy shares in CZZ, thank you ... If the US ever repeals its import tariffs on ethanol, I wouldn't be surprised to see a special ban on CZZ's production.
Re: melt up will continue until the black swan hits
So, it would seem to me that the risk/reward of being in the market is too great at this time. Im waiting to buy in on the way down. Even in gold, the way of the short run is too little reward for the risk. We have stalled.
End-of-year update
OK, so it's a week past end-of-year.
Portfolio was split into two halves on March 4, 2009. The buy-and-hold half was all-in Fidelity Select funds until mid-May- in cash since then. The trading half was more or less all-in 3x ultra longs until mid-May- pretty much just scalped the ultra shorts since then.
Total return on all portfolios: 81.75%. Not least due to wife's insistence on long-only strategies over the past few weeks, mainly in AA, ALY, SLW, C.
Best wishes to all for the Year of the Tiger.
(If I'd had the guts to hold the 3x ultra longs all year? Even I don't want to know.)
Re: CZZ - Cosan found practising slavery
Hold on jock, actually today Cosan's name was removed from that bad list by a justice order. The measure taken by the Ministry of Labor was considered abusive by the Minister of Agriculture. The Ministry of labor will face daily fines until the name is finally removed from the black list. Cosan says the issue was caused by an outsourced company and was immediately resolved. That's all I know. It is very dangerous to spread news if they are incorrect. Imagine the damage that can be done. Similar dealings happened to me with an outsourced company doing some work for Citibank in Brazil.
http://www.estadao.com.br/noticias/economia,cosan-...
Re: Fannie 30yr Bond/10yr Treasury = lowest spread in 17 years!
Luggie,
Feel free to commiserate directly. I have attended 3 training sessions on the 2010 GFE and another next week. The experts all have different opinions. The umpteenth software updates to handle the new forms has bugs too....lovely! If it's it's any consolation lenders are confused also.
Hope and Change benefits IMHO are well intended ill considered and will have unintended consequences mark my words. I think the biggest current market threat is 'peak money'. Kaimu is just waiting for that resounding crashing sound followed by...silence? screams? his loudest HA!?
Re: Fannie 30yr Bond vs. 10yr Treasury = lowest spread in ...
Dr. Strangelove,
Fortunately for me I am not a Realtor so you are most welcome to ignore my advice on when to invest in real estate...that would be best taken in a given locale and your personal situation. I just calls the current rate situation (in my small corner) as I see it and yes, I drink my own industry koolaide.
By the way, whoever sent me that insulting email with a shot of Palin having her shoes shined by Obama--it was the high point of my day.
Cheers.
Re: CZZ - Cosan found practising slavery
Hi Jock - Darn it, I own this one. Nice news on Terrane - not too sure about entry/exit on this one pending details for the project funding mechanisms. Happy Trading
Re: Fannie 30yr Bond vs. 10yr Treasury = lowest spread in ...
loannetter -
Your outline of the rate situation is indeed positive but, more to my point, the national market forces as they relate to housing are ominous. When you refer to drinking your industry's Kool-Aid, is it that Jim Jones' elixir that's being passed around in paper cups by Barney Frank's minions?
Cheers.
By the way, I don't send racist emails to anybody but I was wondering if you had anything to do with that giant squid tenticle that's playing with my trading accounts. Ha. Ha. Just kidding.
Re: Question for Vad or Others
Vad, the funny thing is, my rant about a controlled market and your assertion "things are working the way they always have" live together quite nicely. Here's how:
The programs that trade are nothing more than one of your scanners that detect one of your forming patterns, and then on sensitive stocks in particular situations, they act to convert the pattern into a breakout.
Fed Hedge Fund does not have enough firepower to do "whatever they want" - nobody does. Instead they rely on using the various pressure points and sensitive areas of the charts to tip a close-run situation in a direction they want. "GIve me a fulcrum and I will move the world."
At least that's how I'd write the program. And if I didn't have to make money on it, I'd have it trigger in a lot more situations.
If this happens often enough, across the market, in aggregate it moves the entire market in the desired direction slowly over time.
And once the scalpers figure out this is happening, they adapt and start to unconsciously support this movement, so even less firepower needs to be used. It gets a life of its own.
So for those of us who want to be swing traders, unless we want to go long (which is risky right now), we're pretty well stuck, hence the rants. The scalpers, since they're out at end of day, for them the risk is clear, bounded, and (honestly) quite minimal.
I'm thinking I should either become a scalper, or stand aside. I'll probably stand aside, except for a few longs I like and some Taleb-inspired puts for when that Black Swan hits.
Isn't it great how we can both be right?
Re: CZZ - terrane's news
Luggie - Pls help me understand why terrane drops on good news about their project! TIA.
Re: Fannie 30yr Bond vs. 10yr Treasury = lowest spread in ...
Dr Strangelove,
I don't take candy or Kool-Aid from politicians. You never know where they've been!
Re: Question for Vad or Others
Davefairtex
Thank you for "Give me a fulcrum and I will move the world". I imagine the pyramids of Egypt were so moved.
Local bank shut down by FDIC
http://tinyurl.com/y8tknlx
Horizon Bank was shut down and handed over to local S&L Washington Federal Savings today. The only blessing is keeping their resources in local hands. Over commitment to construction and real estate development were named as reasons for their demise.
Re: Question for Vad or Others
Dave,
a few points if I may.
In your description Fed becomes simply one of the market moving forces... if they read the charts (or whatever is used to make trading decisions) and apply their power st certain points, this is exactly what any competent trader would do, right? And if this is indeed what happens, then we all should be truly thankful to them because such application of their power would only make our task easier and provide us with easy and sizeable profits. There is obvious contradiction here, as common tune is "we find it very hard to trade this market"... even you, after saying this end with "I think I should stand aside".
Also, I don't see how scalpers can support any directional move in terms of longer time frames - by exiting their position by the end of the day they stay net neutral. It's exactly swing traders that open positions and keep them longer that create longer lasting change in prices.
Finally... saying "when that Black Swan hits", don't you think using IF instead of or together with "when" would be more appropriate? :) I am just uncomfortable with any certainty in this kind of expectations. It's been almost 10 months now as we hear every day that drop is imminent, inevitable and will happen tomorrow... OK, next week... OK, after next report... OK, after... Remember all those "this is ridiculous, they can't keep it up, it just can't go any higher, I am shorting this market right here"? What good did this confidence bring to those who took such stance throughout this whole rally? Nothing but aggravation, frustration and anger. You remember of course how many times I said "we are in uptrend, don't fight it, if you feel you must short - don't try to hold your shorts, take stops if we make new highs; better yet, just go with trend and trade on a long side until you see clear change in trend"... you know what I was getting after each such post? Hate mail. Why? Because of that psychological chain we discussed in Nassau: firm opinion creates overconfidence that feeds itself by finding the evidence supporting it - ego is being triggered - stubborn fight with market reality ensues - losses mount and cause extreme frustration - blame starts getting assigned to omnipotent forces - people with different opinions become personal enemies... And all this disastrous cycle starts with simple confidence in one's opinion.
For some reason I seem to disagree with everyone today as I just realized... I guess I'll try to say yes, nod or simply shut up tomorrow :)
Re: Question for Vad or Others
NYUGrad & Vad,
As Vad suggested the 24/7 barrage of news can be overwhelmingly depressing. Also his simply, but not always easy, advice to trade what you see (the road not the map) and watch for a definite trend changer of some kind.
Most of my biggest losses have come from "knowing" prices were unreal. After 20 years (1969-1989) as a buy and holder, I "knew" the prices during the tech boom were idiotic, stayed with shares of companies with real earnings and missed most of the decade.
I did average over 10% per year from 1983 to 2007 after I was allowed to managed my own retirement account by picking well run companies and setting stops. I made money in 1987 with stops, but bought back in a bit too soon.
I made money with the 2000 plunge for the same reason.
I have only done a little short term trading (small amounts) and am half in cash while waiting for the TOG that is sure to come out of the present charade (large amounts). For the record: My other half is in corp bonds with 7% or more yld. and a mutual fund (PRPFX) which is gold, Treasuries and blue chip stocks. Anything which is not sell stop protected has a mental stop and I am willing to dump at any time.
Patience is the hardest thing for me to manage. I want to be aware of what is happening, but it ALWAYS takes far longer for the overall market to react to stupid policies than I think it "should".
Just an observation, NYUGrad (not a criticism) it appears to me you are too quick to play a hunch with an image for the outcome. Been there. Life has seldom gone the way I want it to, but the surprises keep us interested :-)
Best wishes. (End of sermon from the old Grym)
Re: Question for Vad or Others
"Last thing I want to do is to engage in semantics, but if situation creates the charts, don't charts reflect the situation by definition? :)"
A bit like a small room full of people. The room temperature will rise, people will become even hotter, thus raising the room temperature...
Whichever is cause and which is effect matters little to me.
Reminds me of an old army expression, "Don't sweat the small s**t!"
Re: Terrane's news
Hi Jock - Although C. Jeannes & Co. (GG) opt out of joint venture they still sit in the cat bird seat as major shareholder thereby eliminating other major interest. Not sure how TRX can possibly fund the development short of massive dilution and I expect the smart money while loving Mt. Milligan economics is taking a wait and see to evalutate how Terrane intends to come up with $800mm to prepare for initial production. Probably one to take a position on, but who knows? Perhaps they can sell Berg to get the wheel rolling on funding. Happy Trading
Re: Question for Vad or Others
Two things: http://www.starstryder.com/2008/02/18/with-a-lever...
Archimedes quote.
We're back to trying to separate the observer from the observed.
All is one. While you're looking at the charts, myriad others are also. As you calculate they calculate.
The actions of the observers to what they see create the observed-where does one start and the other end?
Yeah, what Grym said.
Black swan?/It's gone
Black swans appear and disappear at will.
Is it possible that a black swan cleverly embedded itself into the widely expected financial crisis of '08, and caused the sell-off to deepen into March of '09?
In which case, it may have disappeared in the Winter of '09.
And was followed by the rarest of white swans, which is to say that the subsequent 10-month rally was/is a rare but expected reaction.
I'm not sure I'd be looking for a black swan again anytime soon. JMO.
Re: Terrane's news
Luggie -
If GG is majority, then no senior is likely to come in. Doesn't GG try to squeeze Terrane, issue capital calls, etc, and hope they fail, then buy the assets out of their bankruptcy?
Lowenstein advises under-water home-owners: consider walking!
In tomorrow's NYT Magazine, Roger Lowenstein notes that "morality" is expected of home-owners, but not of Morgan Stanley, which just "walked" on a mortgage covering 5 office buildings Morgan owned.
Sure, home-owners have signed a promissory note. The penalty for default is surrendering the home. He urges home-owners to make their business decision just as coldly as did Morgan Stanley.
Very bold notion, and with seemingly large consequences on the eve of a new round of interest-rate-resets on a whole category of mortgages
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/10/magazine/10FOB-w...
PS: Isn't it curious that the name Morgan appears in 2 HB&B's! Ghosts of the rapacious financier ...
Chinese gold demand - a thought provoking piece
http://seekingalpha.com/article/180556-china-s-new...
Bullion Vault's head of research believes Chinese view gold accumulation as, not a means, but an END. As higher gold prices have lower Indian demand, they have INCREASED China's!
BUT, I asked myself, will this benefit global gold producers, or only chinese ones? After all, China's small mines (avg 25K oz/yr) produce more than any other country's.
And how was the Chinese gov't able to "surprise the world" with a big jump last year in their gold reserves? The gold was probably bought locally - at better than global pricing. Big gov't buyer + small producers = favorable pricing!
Re: Question for Vad or Others
Vad -
You are right, I believe the Fed is doing exactly what a competent trader would do. My guess is, with the added advantage of knowing where our stops are, knowing in real time the aggregate size of our short positions, they aren't required to make a profit, and they have a few trillion dollars to work with. And I suspect they don't get margin calls either. They aren't omnipotent by any means, but they are definitely a force to be respected. I'm guessing they don't fight the tape either, but they do tip the scales at important moments. And without a profit motive, they can make break-even trades that end up effectively transferring money from the stopped out shorts to the longs.
You suggested that if the Fed were on the job, the market would become more predictable, and that we should thank them for that profit opportunity. So the market has definitely become more predictable. It has gone up, up, and higher up, for the last 10 months. And I think Goldman is thankful. Goldman HAS made regular sizable profits. Their predictable profits are an indication that I'm right. Not proof - just part of that circumstantial case I referred to before. If YOU KNEW the Fed was providing a put, a real put on the market, you too could go long, stay long, and make a mint of money. I think it is quite possible that Goldman has done just that.
Alas, none of the great unwashed were so informed, so we weren't able to avail ourselves of this opportunity. And I'm guessing the opportunity won't last forever. And the unwashed will not be told when the Fed is no longer on the job. Sucks to be them.
Lastly, I think you're right - I probably shouldn't "know" that a black swan will hit, but its my strong belief that one will. As you point out, this affects my perception of risk of holding stocks overnight, which makes it difficult for me to hold long positions for any serious length of time without a hedge in place. It's why my performance over the last six months has been spotty.
Now how do I respond? Jump on board the long Fed Bandwagon while it's still rolling, and hope I can jump off in time to avoid the gap-down black swan? Or do I stand aside?
I know, I could become a scalper, but that's just not where I want to go. Not because I doubt it makes money - you're living proof. I just don't want to pay such close attention to the moment by moment movements.
As for the rest of it, your comments are always valued by me.
Re: Black swan?/It's gone
2nd,
this is actually a very good point. There are so many possible scenarios from here on, and black swan while not impossible (nothing is) is merely one of them.
We may stay locked in a narrow range, we may stay locked in a wider range, we may get expanding range (I am shuddering at the thought, that would be a real killer for anyone but scalpers, and even those will have to work harder). We may continue slow grind up. We may get sharp spike up. We may get slow round top and begin declining. Finally, yes, we may get sharp selling.
All this depends on so many moving parts, and most of all - on upcoming policies regarding liquidity and on the current balance between those who are already long, still think of going long, already short, still think of going short. I am not even mentioning such insignificant (sardonic smirk inserted) details as general business climate, tax/spend policies, international cooperation/competition etc. Sure, all these factors are always in play but at this point the uncertainty in all these factors is much higher than usual. In this kind of situations all kinds of self-appointed nostradamuses spring forward and throw out all kinds of predictions. Yeah, a few of them will guess right - it's a pretty much no lose game for them. Either they guess right and get their limelight (which they'll try to monetize to the best of their abilities), or they don't and no one will even remember. That's what false gurus do.
What's a trader to do? Outline scenarios, determine the signs of each starting to develop, define actions in each case and say "I have no idea which of scenarios will take place but I am ready to any of them".
PS. There... as I promised yesterday, I start today by agreeing with someone :)
Re: Question for Vad or Others
Dave,
two points I'd like to add a few words to.
1."Alas, none of the great unwashed were so informed, so we weren't able to avail ourselves of this opportunity. And I'm guessing the opportunity won't last forever. And the unwashed will not be told when the Fed is no longer on the job. Sucks to be them."
See, this implies that in order to take the right side in the market one must know what Powers That Be are doing. It's just not so. My original point was and still is (and you no doubt remember whole piece of discussion in Nassau devoted to that): there is no way to possess all the information related to the price movement and most importantly - it's not necessary. Trading decisions are NOT based on predictions or on knowing. They are based on recognizable situations being repeated, and standard responses to those situations. In this sense, charts carry all the information one needs in order to make one's decisions.
Please understand that I don't repeatedly object on this just because I like to object (although if you listen to my wife, that's about the most prominent of my traits). It's just that this goes to the very core of my trading philosophy. Everything I do myself and teach others is based on this cornerstone: tape tells you everything you need to know in order to make a trade.
2. You ask very valid question: what position do I take now if I can't see this market as long, not sure about shorting and don't want to go to lower time frames? I have just the answer: NOTHING. Trading is not about being in the market all the time. Trading is about jumping when opportunity presents itself - whatever opportunity is in terms of your trading system. Not knowing your trading system, I can't tell you anything more but I can tell that you don't see anything recognizable at this point. That means stay away, observe and wait for something you know how to trade to emerge. What is it for you? If you don't have an answer, you don't have a trading system.
Re: Question for Vad or Others
"2. You ask very valid question: what position do I take now if I can't see this market as long, not sure about shorting and don't want to go to lower time frames? I have just the answer: NOTHING."
How often do we hear, "Why doesn't somebody do something about it?"
But I like the saying for politicians, "Don't just do something. Stand there!"
So much of what people do is useless or worse — from invading Iraq to "solving the financial crisis".
Re: Question for Vad or Others
You beat me to my comment Davefairtex, in negating the certainty that a black swan event "will" happen - because this an application of objective knowledge which I believe Taleb is critical of in his chef d'oeuvre.
Yet it creates a paradox in the sense that I noted a passage in Taleb's book comparing the person who went about their business without consideration for a black swan event (think Ben Bernanke et al.) with the person who did. A paradox in that preparing for a black swan event at some point becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy or an application of objective knowledge (I know that a black swan even WILL occur at any moment). The same ontology or worldview that is being criticised is being applied to the task at hand.
I suggest this last comment because Taleb is perhaps as much luck as anything else in his idea of the black swan. Like Meredith Whitney, he was on the mark one time and has now become the "go to" person. In some ways they share a feature with that other prophet of the moment, Rubini, in that they are to a certain extent one trick ponies, particularly as his idea is applied to real world scenarios. Evidence of this is Taleb's reported failure to make money applying his idea in his own hedge fund following his success:
"Taleb created his own hedge fund, Empirica, designed to help other hedge funds hedge their risks by using a refined form of his options wins – running small losses in quiet times and winning big in turbulent markets. It did okay but, after a good first year, performed poorly when the market went though a quiet spell. He’s still involved in the markets, but mainly as a hobby – like chess."
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/eco...
Note as well the limitations of what Taleb calls black swan events:
"the full global implications of the sub-prime-driven credit crunch became clear. The world banking system still teeters on the edge of meltdown. Taleb had been vindicated. “It was my greatest vindication. But to me that wasn’t a black swan; it was a white swan. I knew it would happen and I said so. It was a black swan to Ben Bernanke [the chairman of the Federal Reserve]."
This was not a black swan event to the likes of Bill Cara and other astute traders. In fact, Taleb has a name for the likes of Bill, Vad and the pit traders he used to work with - fat tony. (I'll leave readers to discern the nature of fat tony - end page 2/top page 3). The point being that these skeptical traders apply the number 1 rule of Taleb's approach to the financial trading of black swan events - risk management.
Taleb's thinking is evolving into a strand of philosophy which is pertinent to raise - in my mind at least - because of a run in I had with Vad pertaining to my persistent, erroneous or what was perceived to be otherwise irrelevant questioning of how the market functions. First, allow me to quote a passage of Taleb's "Black Swan":
"Surprisingly, the book that influenced me was not written by someone in the thinking business but by a journalist: William Shirer's 'Berlin Diary: The Journal of a Foreign Correspondent: 1934-41'... . How? Simply, the diary purported to describe the events as *they were taking place*, not after. The journal was purportedly written without Shirer knowing what was going to happen next... . Some comments here and there were quite illuminating, particularly those concerning the French belief that Hitler was a transitory phenomenon, which explained their lack of preperation and subsequent rapid capitulation. One would suppose that people living through the beginning of WW2 had an inkling that something momentous was taking place. Not at all." (pg. 13-14).
Having just completed a degree and enjoying the luxury of soon being able to study another one, it has come as a rather jolting experience to realise the limitations of this learning as it applies to trading. One can infer from the opening chapter of Black Swan Taleb's appreciation for a sort of antiknowledge - perhaps encapsulated in the idea that instead of only valuing data or knowledge that validates our conceptions or ideas (the basis of economics or our history books for example) a skeptical empiricist might instead value those data or ideas that invalidate their knowledge.
The connection to Vad's "trade what you see, not what you think" slogan became clear in my mind when I read this. It became clear to me that my "knowledge" - or acquisition of, has no place in this skeptical empiricism. I must learn differently. I value most highly the losses I make (in paper trading), so that I learn to avoid these until my risk management is sufficiently controlled that positive feedback - profits - then become a realizable outcome.
Vad has made it easier for me by going through significant financial pain learning by trial and error and many, many hours of research. It is distilled in a small number of setups which has been conveniently published in a book. Although Taleb takes credit for the idea - and that's some nice credit he earns for each hours speech he does $$ - IMO Vad appears to be not far behind Taleb in applying Black Swan principles to his trading, without always harping on about the possibilities of black swans. They occur or they don't, the trend changes or it doesn't, and one reacts accordingly in their trading. Like the war diary above that so influenced Taleb because it wasn't subject to the revisionism that tends to happen with time, I am learning that there is no presupposition of events - nothing HAS to happen - I simply learn to react with them as they occur, change and reoccur on a daily basis in order to gain what I want from the market - money.
Whereas Taleb used puts as a risk management tool, daytraders keep their money on the sidelines and out of the firing line (a much simpler strategy for this non-mathematically inclined trader). With Bill being in the game 30 years, it looks like he's been applying Taleb's principals long before Taleb was heard of - I don't know. But I do begin to understand that it's the fat Tonys who rule the marketplace - be they daytraders, fund managers or the pit traders and their Fed masters. The mass public make the erroneous decisions based on a similarly (perhaps woefully?) faulty knowledge and their trades are the ones that I get to profit from if I eliminate my own faulty thinking.
Perhaps this long winded passage has been blindingly obvious or clear as mud, but it has helped bring clarity to my idea of what trading should be about.
JMTCW. Enjoy your (very cold?) Sunday.
Re: Terrane's news
Hi Jock - Goldcorp has elected not to participate with a working interest due to a full plate now and I expect C. Jeannes will do everything possible to assist Terrane to move the project forward (read third party funding); perhaps keeping it's shareholding percentage interest in place, or depending on the tea leaves suffer dilution with the unwashed masses. Happy Trading
California earthquake
How's that for timing - Swiss Re completed a $150 million catastrophe bond sale for California Earthquake Insurance on Jan 6th, bring their total of such sales to $2.1 Billion of coverage since 2001. Tonights 6.5 eathquake may be a harbinger of more to come. I wouldn't want to be a holder of Swiss Re on Monday morning.
NYT Op-Ed hearings of the Financial Crisis Inquiry Commission
http://bit.ly/4Jyrah
http://www.fcic.gov/openmeeting.pdf
Steve Keen's 2009 retrospective
Keen is an outspoke critique of mainstream economic thought, and I like to keep tabs on him, and am to this extent having my first serious read of economics through his book.
Note at the bottom of page the paper publications for the year. One of them caught my eye - Household Debt: The Final Stage in an Artificially Extended Ponzi Bubble. Keen has taken a model of credit money creation and added ponzi speculative financing to it (such speculative financing being an important element of US/Aus economies since 1987) to derive a comparative analysis of economic activity with and without ponzi financing:
http://www.debtdeflation.com/blogs/
Re: Question for Vad or Others
I recently purchased from Amazon a book called "The Greatest Salesman in the World" by Og Mandino. I was curious as to why the user reviews were all raving about this little book.
It's a book intended to inspire people to greatness, in this case to be the best salesperson they can be (Mandino was an insurance salesman whose book, as luck would have it, was discovered by Amway Corp and has since been an uninterrupted success).
He's shaped this inspirational message through a series of ten mantras that are to be repeated and internalised over a period of time. For those who have not bought "Techniques of Tape Reading", the mantras found in this book share the same principal.
Adopting the shared message that only I can shape my future for the better, I am in the process of creating my own mantra to be read and internalised, sourcing a little of the ideas of the aforementioned texts.
First and foremost I want to internalise the abolition of pre-conceived and other learned knowledge of what I think the market is. Primary factors that will be internalised are:
1. Disciplined application of defined setups (distilled in 7 basic setups in TTR)
2. Patience (no trading for any other reason than point number 1)
3. Increasing my usefulness as a trader to myself and others 100 fold (that's a Mandino mantra. Removing what I think I know about trading and sharing only what is to be found in point number 1).
Still thinking it through. For some here the two titles mentioned above might prove useful to traders as we enter 2010. I'm beginning to see the usefulness of this trading strategy for various time frames that include, but are not limited to daytrading.
cheers.
Coffee Break
Have a great weekend. 3 basketball games to coach this weekend...as my mentor used to say about coaching girls' basketball, "it's a soap opera every day." At least none of us coaches have daughters on the team.
http://ronsen.blogspot.com/2010/01/saturday-mornin...
http://ronsen.blogspot.com/2010/01/sunday-morning-...
Re: Question for Vad or Others
Les,
"the full global implications of the sub-prime-driven credit crunch became clear. The world banking system still teeters on the edge of meltdown. Taleb had been vindicated. “It was my greatest vindication. But to me that wasn’t a black swan; it was a white swan. I knew it would happen and I said so. It was a black swan to Ben Bernanke [the chairman of the Federal Reserve]."
This is key. A black swan must be something which is unexpected and, at least specifically, unpredicted.
Perhaps as he indicates in the above black swans can be either group or individual events.
For my own example:
In the fall of 2008 I began buying the inverse financial ETF (SKF) and was in and out a lot due to my stops and paying a lot of commissions. I became convinced the banks would be in trouble for a long time and "saw a clear pattern" in the SKF movement. So confident was I that I removed my stop and went about other things.
Then the SEC banned shorts on the big banks.
I went from a gain surpassing my best two years working full time (25% gain in my net worth) to a loss of 15% in one week before I dumped it. (Always confident it would once again bounce back.)
They changed the rules of the game while I wasn't paying attention. I didn't think it would/could/ happen. Not everyone had the same problem, I'm pretty sure.
What I remember from the book is Taleb's long term advice, "Put 90% of your money in the most secure investments and 10% in one which may experience a black swan beneficial effect." That "safest" would include hedging I'd say.
I have not yet read or heard him predict the market. I have only heard him say nothing has been fixed and use the analogy that the "same pilots are still flying the plane who crashed before."
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RE: Berlin Diary and events in real time...
I recently found a 1938 Reader's Digest with the Condensed Book section detailing, "The House that Hitler Built," by Stephen H. Roberts.
He describes Hitler's personality including his fascination with the occult. Points out his needs for commodities to feed his military machine, highlights the first completed sections of the Autobahn led to countries who had those raw materials and sees this as an indication of a war which could last for a few days or even a few hours (Blitzkreig became the term later). For Roberts the fall of Poland, Czechoslovakia, Belgium... were not black swans, but predictable and still preventable.
The problem, it seems, is not that we can't know better — but that those who see the problem coming are not those in a position of control.
Re: Local bank shut down by FDIC
Best guesstimates for 2010 indicate another 200-300 regional banks will be shuttered on Fridays and opened again at 9 AM Monday morning.
No worry though, HB&B are standing in line to put their shingle over the door just as soon as fed regulators drop the green flag!
Re: Black swan?/It's gone
The following link may be of interest:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Structural_break
What is being discussed here connects with some topics in estimation and control of variable structure systems...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Variable_structure_sy...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hybrid_system
Also, Vad's remark a few posts back (very end of #55416): "... when market behavior changes, there is a natural lag between that change and our adjustment. To a certain degree one can expect changes coming but I don't know any single trader who can constantly re-adjust on the go with no transition period." is also observed in switching-controllers where a change-detection approach is employed to switch from one control law to another based on changes detected in say some actuator response. Latency in the change-detection decision process always occurs.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Change_detection
Re: Question for Vad or Others
Vad, here's what's going on.
I'm actually not doing terribly. While leaning short, I've managed to tread water because I also go long in selected areas, which in the end seem to have largely balanced out. Since I'm a swing trader though, I take more risk than you do, because my situation is vulnerable to the infamous gap-up open. So instead of being at risk for losing a small amount for a given entry, I end up losing a rather larger amount due to the gap up open.
My entries have actually been pretty good. I enter, and I'm either stopped out with a small loss, or I do well enough during the rest of the day. Emotionally for me, its fine, I can take the stop, its not a deal at all. It's the days that follow that cause me trouble, especially the gap up opens.
To complicate matters, often the gap up open is deceptive. It gaps up to my stop, trips it, and then rapidly (within 5 minutes - or even immediately) resumes trading down at yesterday's close. This has happened frequently enough in the past so I had to adapt my trading style to use "mental stops" which take more discipline, and require that I actually pay attention to the market all the time, which in my timezone is annoying because market open is at 930 pm, which means I have no social life at all. Occasionally my discipline slips, but not often.
For whatever reason, my longs have not suffered from such gap-tactics. Perhaps its the lack of interest in gunning the long stops by the big players (incl. the Fed Hedge Fund), perhaps its just the trend. I don't know. I don't think I am dramatically more disciplined or smarter long than short.
In addition to entry points, buying and selling and the like, I also like to try and understand what is going on in general, to understand the environment in which I am operating. Sometimes I get an epiphany (or what I think is an epiphany) and I write it up. That's what this was. Its less of a rant, and more of my sense as to what is going on. Sure there's an emotional content - I'm kind of against "unfair" in general, but that was less about trading and more about the specifics of our operating environment.
So to continue - In another part of your post, you stated "this implies that in order to take the right side in the market one must know what Powers That Be are doing."
I wasn't implying that at all. I have said - in each and every one of my posts I've made on this subject - that you are living proof that inside information is not required to consistently make money. As a result, I must confess to feeling some frustration about you reading into what I'm writing things I didn't say, or intend to imply. I"m not sure if its just my bad writing, or your bad reading. :)
I believe the market is corrupt, and that certain companies and individuals have access to information which dramatically helps their performance in the market. I also believe that you make money by reading the tape and using your trading system. Both statements CAN be true at the same time.
I'll try from a different angle. I do not believe that inside information is REQUIRED for trading success. However, possessing such information does take away the uncertainty of the marketplace for those that have such information. It dramatically improves performance, and it requires much less skill to trade.
And, I believe such a thing is going on, right now. I believe the system is corrupt.
As for my action items, I will have to think upon how I approach the situation and how my assessment of the trading environment (especially for me, a swing trader) affects how I want to do business. And as you and others have pointed out, sometimes the best thing to do is - nothing at all.
One last note. You can tell your wife that I value your objections. They make me think and cause me to examine what I'm really thinking. After all, why spend energy engaging each other if it doesn't lead to growth and improvement?
TIS THE SEASON..........HB&B is starting to slowly release bonus
numbers for 2009 performance. One year ago eye-opening bonus news hit the markets as a whole pretty hard. I'd suspect HB&B is smarter in 2010 and will do anything possible to keep extravagant bonus compensation as quiet as possible except for the CEO that only accepted $1 or something minimal.
January 6, 2010, 6:09 am
NEW YORK TIMES
John Havens, head of Citigroup’s securities business, earned about $9 million in total compensation in 2009, apparently making him the highest-paid executive at the bank.
In a filing with the Securities and Exchange Commission on Tuesday, Citi said Mr. Havens’s pay package comprised 2.7 million shares of restricted stock, which Mr. Havens received on Dec. 30, Reuters reported.
Based on Citi’s Dec. 30 closing price of $3.32, Mr. Havens earned about $8.97 million. That made him the highest paid company executive in 2009, according to The Wall Street Journal.
Mr. Havens received a cash salary of less than $500,000, the newspaper said, citing a person close to the matter. The Obama administration’s pay czar, Kenneth R. Feinberg, who had a say over compensation for the top 100 employees at Citigroup for 2009, reviewed the structure but not the dollar amount of the pay package for Mr. Havens, the newspaper said, citing a person close to the matter.
The Journal, citing the person, said Mr. Havens was not among the 20 highest-paid Citi executives at the time of Mr. Feinberg’s review last year.
Mr. Havens heads Citi’s institutional clients group, which includes corporate and investment banking, sales and trading, and global transaction services, among other businesses.
Black Swans
From my vantage point; there are a whole flock of black swans taking flight.... a few more insider assasinations in the past month... several other technological disclosures manifesting in unlikely places, including some very publicly revealing demonstrations and equally revealing official denials... a few more financial/military/Industrial complex insiders leaving the country on holiday for points abroad and conspicuously not returning...and ominous rumblings behind the scenes in Washington over the Obama presidency... blinking red warning lights across the board... This could get very interesting and very messy in a hurry. Hang on to your hats folks, there are strong winds a blowing!....
Re: Question for Vad or Others/Trading a corrupt system
dave- That was a very valuable post.
The system is corrupt (although IMO no more so than any other system run by homo sapiens). When we trade, we strive to make money in a corrupt system. There are ways to deal with the corruption, similar perhaps to 'dealing with' the house edge in a casino. One way is to fade human nature. Another might be waiting for (Vad's) 'setups,' which (again JMO) comprise an organized system of recognizing human nature/crowd behavior, and taking advantage of it.
What does not work is preconceived notions of where the market is going.
Re: Terrane's news
Luggie -
Thanx for your thoughts. Might not Goldcorp also sell their shares to a senior whom they didn't regard as a major competitor? or even a financial player partnered with a miner? or swap shares for a property adjacent to one of theirs?
Re: Question for Vad or Others
Dave,
you are making a lot of good points. Don't worry if some of them don't come across exactly as you mean them or are being misread. After all, I am not analyzing your whole life philosophy, I am merely reacting on what I read in a particular post. For instance, "If YOU KNEW the Fed was providing a put, a real put on the market, you too could go long, stay long, and make a mint of money" to me sounds as "all of us who did not KNOW that, were not able to participate in this move" - and this I disagree(d) with. If that's not precisely what you meant, no worry - whole exchange surely helped someone else to deepen their understanding. Your concluding sentence is the most important and is (or at least should be) the sole reason why we participate in this kind of discussions.
Finally, "possessing (inside) information does take away the uncertainty of the marketplace for those that have such information. It dramatically improves performance, and it requires much less skill to trade" - only insane would have argued against this :)
Re: Question for Vad or Others/Trading a corrupt system
Thanks 2nd_ave. Glad you found it valuable.
I do think there are differences in the level of corruption in systems run by people - things are more nuanced than the simple statement that "human systems are all corrupt." Furthermore, those nuances are useful in helping us to see what is to come down the line.
Try this on for size. Things go in cycles. The system gradually gets more corrupt as time goes on. Finally, when corruption is at its most intense, there is a disaster which harms a large number of people. Following this, if the disaster is large enough, an examination period follows, and if you are fortunate, a remedy is constructed that cleans the system up. The system is still corrupt, but much, much less so. Rinse, repeat.
Where we are in that cycle is in the middle of one of those disaster phases. Unfortunately, the first disaster wasn't great enough, so we were not motivated enough to construct an actual remedy. What's more, even more corruption was used to get the system functioning again. This just tells me the next disaster will have to be more dramatic than the last one until there is general agreement to have a real examination and then remedy.
Given my view of where we are in this cycle, a disaster is all but certain to arrive. Given that level of corruption is increasing rather than decreasing, and that the cans have merely been kicked down the road, the next disaster will strike sooner rather than later, and it will be even more dramatic than the last one.
What form will it take?
Things seldom happen the same way twice. Will this next disaster be another slow grind downhill as in 2008? I'm guessing, probably not. Fed Hedge Fund has the technology to stop that from happening. How do I know this? I heard it from our Treasury Secretary:
"We are not going to have a second wave of financial crisis," Geithner said in an interview with National Public Radio. "We cannot afford to let the country live again with a risk that we are going to have another series of events like we had last year. That is not something that is acceptable. We will do what is necessary to prevent that and that is completely within our capacity to prevent" he said.
When viewed with my new lens, I must conclude that the Fed is on the job, and will protect us from a repeat of last year. Geithner said so, with great conviction. And I believe him. Those particular series of events will not happen again.
So how do we get a disaster big enough to overwhelm last year's interventions? Think about that for a moment. TPTB have made sure the tire won't spring a slow leak. As a result, given that a disaster is inevitable with the current level of corruption and the number of cans that were kicked down the road, it will have to be a massive blowout.
Heck if I know what the particulars of that would be. Will there be time for me to get on board that train when it leaves the station? Perhaps - perhaps not. What's more, I'd bet the market will be "closed for repairs" while they figure out how to respond. One thing I learned last year was, if the rules (such as having a market open every day) are inconvenient, the answer is always to simply change the rules. Shorting got you down? Ok, shorting is now illegal.
Oh, before I forget - happy new year everybody! :)
Re: Question for Vad or Others/Trading a corrupt system
dave- Well thought out.
You're right- none of us has a clue where/when the disaster will strike. It may not emanate from the financial sector, nor even be man-made. An 8.5 on the Hayward fault would do it. A catastrophic drought. A meteor strike.
Any of the above would elevate the disaster from 'blowout' to 'collision.'
Re: Question for Vad or Others/Trading a corrupt system
Dave,
two thumbs up. One of the best insights I've read in a good while.
Gold/Silver jump at NY Globex open this eve ...
Could be a volatile week. Put your stops in.
" We are not going to have a second wave of financial crisis "
Geithner is correct... But, what he won't bring up, is the coming Funding Crisis. Bill Fleckenstein has been discussing this ( funding crisis ) for many months now, along with our Bill ( Cara ), who so wonderfully touched on this in todays blog. In my mind, this will be the tidal wave that crashes on the markets. If I could project, in my very humble opinion, the pecrception of this crisis will begin to unfold this coming Fall. All governments exist on taxes, just as parasite feasts on its host. It will be interesting times, for sure...
Re: CZZ - Cosan found practising slavery
Thanks, Si02 -
I passed on Bloombergs's report earlier Friday, and the Estadao article you linked to came out only Friday night.
Re: Question for Vad or Others/Trading a corrupt system
enjoying your thoughts Dave, although I'd suggest market intervention/closure would be the least of our issues as we kick this can down the road. We've already got mass unemployment which cannot be reduced while it is the household sector that is deleveraging.
At the same time the banks are leveraging up again, along with their central bank benefactors:
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&si...
Logically the crash is bigger the next time, as you pointed out. Our wealth takes a hit unless it is strategically invested, in all probabilities. (Steve Keen had an interesting paper on economic cycles with ponzi speculative financing thrown into the mixture)
What concerns me more is in what Kaimu refers to as the anti-riot payments or welfare payments. If govts. can't afford to make their anti-riot payments, or these payments are no longer sufficient in order to quell the anger, what does govt. do next?
Rioting has spread from Athens to the south of Italy, as racism rears its ugly head against African workers, often illegal, being targeted by someone with a grudge. No one speaks about the gypsies across Europe; they are the modern Jew - universally loathed. France is always a tinderbox ready to ignite. Indians are being repeatedly targeted for violence in Melbourne, Australia, as their rising standard of living (they're studying in Australian universities) is clashing with whatever grievances the locals have.
Your outlook is manifesting itself in society already, while those in power try (or think about how) to patch up the sinking ship:
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601109&si...
I don't wish to predict the future, but am fascinated to watch this as it happens. I suspect half the problem is how we define ourselves as well; the remnants of nationalism have yet to be swept away from the table of political ideas.
Observing the application of international relations theory I learnt at uni is, and will be, most enlightening.
Cara 100 Ratings Changes
Good morning.
Upgrades:
INTC - to Hold @ Auriga U.S.A. PT Raised from $17 to $20
PBR - to Buy @ Citigroup
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DIS - Downgraded to Neutral @ Janney Montgomery Scott
Re: Question for Vad or Others/Trading a corrupt system
Dave,
"...I'd bet the market will be "closed for repairs" while they figure out how to respond. One thing I learned last year was, if the rules (such as having a market open every day) are inconvenient, the answer is always to simply change the rules. Shorting got you down? Ok, shorting is now illegal."
This is exactly what turned out to be my black swan last year — the banning of shorts on certain (guess who) banks.
This is not a new strategy, only a new tactic. As you say the next will be different in some way and since they make the rules we cannot stop it.
We can, however, we alert and ready to turn it to our advantage (for a short time I expect).
We know of some past techniques:
• Gold confiscation
• Change which stocks are micro-managed
One I read recently is the possibility of freezing money market accounts.
Another possibility — use of debit cards with an expiration date for welfare, Social Security and unemployment payments.
And, of course, the all encompassing tax bite — on trades, purchases of selected goods and services... they have no one enforcing the Constitution so property rights and all freedoms are in jeopardy.
Look to the style of Nazi Germany — first make it a law, then enforce it so others are "just following orders."
Example One: "You vill buy health insurance of our choosing! OR ELSE!"