Morning Call [7:35am ET] Yesterday, as the Euro soared and the US Dollar plummeted, there was a very strange reaction with Gold and Silver: at first, there was no movement at all; then the prices tumbled. Typical inter-relationships in market prices often go awry for reasons of forced selling, e.g., margin calls, or forced buying, e.g., short squeeze. But to impact a market as large as Gold and Silver for as long as happened was enough to make traders think the action might have been coordinated by central banks, principally the Fed and ECB, to try to deceive the public into believing the forex move was not their attempt, through quantitative easing, to stave a collapse in equity prices. It probably was.
The truth is that only a few people really know what happened, showing once again there is a lack of transparency in markets, which may or may not be acceptable depending on the reason. My point is that if government or central banks are the reason of any extreme move in markets, rather than over say weeks or months, to effect policy change, then those moves should be explained to us – all of us, not just Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan.
In my book, when conventional analysis does not work, I step back and not make any decision. It’s the same as a race car driver running off the track, out of control, taking his/her hands off the wheel and letting the crash into a wall happen. That way, at least the arms are protected.
Two days ago, while anticipating an attempt by the Interventionists to stem the tide of falling equity prices, I focused on the Euro, believing there would have to be a bounce off the 1.22 up to 1.24-1.25, pushing the USD from the 86.50 to about 85. In combination, I projected a sizeable upward move in precious metals futures and in the goldminer indexes. What occurred was that, in fact, the forex move was right on-time, and even a tad more extreme than I had figured, but my Gold and Silver related trading decisions were dead wrong. There was a repeat of that 'head on a platter' scenario.
But, I decided to take my hands off the wheel until I could calmly decide what really had happened. This morning, despite a modestly weaker Euro and stronger Dollar, the Gold and Silver have recovered a bit. Traders are awaiting the US Jobs Report at 8:30am ET. As this result, or at least the spin, will immediately impact Europe, the small American investors will be, for the most part, locked out of the action until 9:30am ET, which is patently unfair.
Normally, macro-economic data is so loose as to be not all that important minute-to-minute in equity markets. But with the 2x and 3x ETF’s and futures, and inter-market trading by the institutional trading desks, as well as the breathless “breaking news” presentation by today’s version of financial reporting, anything can happen within an hour or so. In fact, people’s fortunes could be made or lost in that hour. Is that fair?
It is said that life is not fair, but I have always argued for social equity on the grounds that if the people don’t get it, they will ultimately revolt. I doubt the leaders in the US Congress are thinking of the people or of these issues when preparing the legislation on so-called financial services reform. That’s really too bad because they are missing another fact, which is that the people are withdrawing their capital, month by month, out of the market, and for any economy to work, it needs the people’s capital. Liquidity caused by the algo trading software of Humungous Bank & Broker (HB&B) and friends, and by central banks and sovereign wealth funds of the world is just “hot money”, i.e., here today and gone tomorrow. More accurately; here this hour and gone the next. There is, now, no marketplace that functions as a price discovery system that relates to the sustainable values of the assets behind those prices. The prices today are no different than Black 14 or Red 11 in any casino. Change is needed.
Even as I write this piece, the Euro and Dollar have reverted and the prices of Gold and Silver futures have softened. You see, it’s not worth my time to even report what’s going on because the situation has become one of ‘blink and you missed it’.
Have a great day. It’s Friday. The Americans have a long weekend to celebrate the 4th of July. [part deleted]
CTA Trading Desk Post-Close Report
Most traders braced for a weaker than expected US unemployment report so they were not surprised that private job growth grew at an underwhelming rate. Although equity prices posted modest losses (S&P-0.47%) we would be hard pressed to draw any definitive conclusions about the action today.
The S&P remains below most significant moving averages – one blog today highlighted the significance of the 75-week moving average currently lending support to the market in this area – and beneath the all important 1040 support level.
All swing charts but the yearly are pointed down supporting the bearish case, and the inability of the market to mount a rally off the candlestick “hammer” bar yesterday has to be disconcerting to Bulls.
The longer it takes for prices to move appreciably higher the stronger the Bear case becomes. Very weak markets simply work off an oversold condition by moving sideways as time relieves the pressure subsequent to the resumption of an impulse wave lower.
We hope all Americans enjoy their Independence Day holiday, while our other readers kick back and relax over the weekend.
Comments
Cara 100 Ratings Changes
Good morning.
There is nothing to report at this time.
flight or fright into gold?
nonsense.
gold is displaying the kind of weakness that the financials were and are.
careful.
Dollar down, market up?...
ignoring the bad news admitted by the talking heads:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-07-02/payrolls-...
Heard of at least one twit(ter) calling the bottom yesterday. I know better than that, but am thinking bounce followed by sell off as working thesis going into opening. Europe showing something similar at present, but with varying degress of chop-chop. Just airing my thoughts and then comparing to actual events for learning.
Interesting to note that VIX has decreased, even as new lows are made. If I remember correctly that means that the price of puts are decreasing. Please correct me if I am wrong.
good hunting today.
US PUBLIC DEBT MOONSHOT
ALOHA!!
Yesterday my family flew into Hilo for a family reunion at the beach house here in Kalapana. We are all taking a well deserved month off, the month of July. Well "off" is all relative, because I am never in the "fully 100% off" mode. Its a strange dynamic to live and breath next to an active volcano as it puts the whole concept of "risk" at a new level, yet that is what I do here. In the shadow of Kilauea I have had some of the best years of my life, so "risk" can be a beautiful thing. Maybe I have turned into a "riskaholic" in my older years, which would be completely against the dictates of any known "financial planner". Yet just putting a USD in your pocket is taking on much more risk than ever before. I think the parameters of how "risk" was once defined is 360 degrees now! In fact "risk" is reverting back to caveman days when just "waking up" was a high risk endeavor! I lay that CHANGE at the feet of the US FED and the multi-decade Congress that perpetuates the continuous eruptions of monetary fraud we keep seeing! That in my mind will make Kilauea Volcano eruptions look like Sesame Street!
Here are the clues and one GIANT ONE ...
JULY 30th US TREASURY
This is why I keep my eye on the US TREASURY as it is the largest debt mover on the planet. Its line items are clues into the perverse PRICE FIXING apparatus that resides at Washington DC. In the past such Congressional and Executive Branch activities would be considered high Treason.
First I will start with a little tell-tale line item. Its a new one that has only been invented the past year or so called GSE INVESTMENT. I would classify this line item "BACKDOOR TARP". The US TREASURY choice of words is important ... INVESTMENT. This is unheard of and Treason to the Founding Fathers. Why is the US TREASURY investing in anything? In truth the US Taxpayer is now backstopping the US real estate market into infinity. On June 30th that line item went up $19BIL USD to record a YTD "INVESTMENT" of $49.3BIL USD. This is more than any one of the three US FED MAIDEN LANE "INVESTMENTS". We all now know what those toxic assets are worth, BBB- or less, in most cases they're all junk! Could this GSE INVESTMENT be the same? The odds are highly favorable. Someone prior mentioned that retail spending has gone up due to foreclosures whereby monthly mortgage payments are no longer paid, but instead spent on "fun things" like "retail therapy". I would suggest there could be a much broader impact on "consumer spending" or 70% of US GDP if income tax were eliminated. Imagine if you no longer had income tax deducted from your pay check!! The US TREASURY is in so much debt that income tax seems utterly useless, other than "fiscal cosmetics".
Next is another little myth buster about how the US Banks are paying into the FDIC to keep your hard-earned savings safe and secure. True some are and some aren't. Some 312 banks went bust since 2007 and those "aren't"! But who is it that has consistently pulled the US Banks out of the fire? Well the line item Deposit Insurance Fund(DIF) put on another $777MIL USD to push the YTD US Taxpayer contribution to FDIC to $35.7BIL USD. So the "BACKDOOR TARP" is never ending ...
Now onto the MOONSHOT ...
You know how long I have been watching the US FED and I used to put out a weekly article(for 30 weeks) just on the US TREASURY and its revenues called REVENUE BREAKDOWN. Well the term BREAKDOWN doesn't even begin to describe what happened on Wednesday, without any fanfare on CNBC or any other market media, or even the blogosphere for which we are all fervent members.
On June 30th, Wednesday, the US PUBLIC DEBT as subject to STATUTORY LIMITS flew past $13TRIL in a mighty MOONSHOT! Now this is different than the DEBT CLOCK, which has already reported numbers past $13TRIL, because the Statutory Limits apply at the US TREASURY, not the CLOCK. I have been eying this flirtation with $13TRIL USD for a month or so and there has been this "dance" right up to $13TRIL and then back down. A month or more of this ... Well finally the $13TRIL mark was broken with a one day $166BIL MOONSHOT to $13.15TRIL. That is the most I have ever seen the US PUBLIC DEBT move up in one days time. Prior BIG DAYS was around $80BIL USD. This day, on June 30th, was DOUBLE the past BIG DAYS! More than DOUBLE!!
The "redemptions" just completely broke down in the face of yet another big weekly $111.2BIL USD debt issuance on June 30th, whereby redemptions only covered $33.2BIL. Every week there is this $110BIL+ debt issue, usually every Wednesday or Thursday. This is the same debt issuance that Niall Fergusen has spoken about recently that will collapse the US TREASURY within two years.
LINK: http://tinyurl.com/252ktzx
Monetary history is replete with debt destroying confidence in currencies. If anyone should know about that phenom its Niall.
Could that have anything to do with the USD crash of late? I mean seriously, with days like June 30th and every seven weeks the US TREASURY prints up way more than a new TARP($700BIL) is the USD and, more to the point, the "debt derivative" really a "safe haven"? Its an IOU for Christs sakes! Its never been anything more than that and it will never be anything more than that, but the safe bet is that it will be much less than an IOU in the future because it will be an IOU ZERO!
So lets now go over and take a "look-see" at how much REVENUES came into the US TREASURY in order to pay for all those outlays, which were recorded at $70.4BIL, along with the $111.2BIL in new debt, Treasury Notes to be exact. Hummmm ... okay gross tax revenues minus refunds equals a "net" tax revenue of $8BIL USD on June 30th. Are tax revenues useless or what? My God ... $8BIL is a pimple on an elephants ass at the US TREASURY! Income tax is a complete waste of time! Anyone who says any different needs to step up to the plate and explain why income tax matters in the face of this much daily debt and out of control spending. Why? Where is the benefit? I'd love to be convinced there is a benefit ... Yep, that's me asking ...
The C WORD is approaching, warp speed, Captain!
LINK: http://tinyurl.com/256ltuf
unemployment figures
regarding bills' comment today on the public or retail investor being 'locked out' for an hour or so when these reports come out at 8 30. I agree it is wrong and there are easy fixes. Fixes we won't get. Right now, futures are up on the employment report. Don't know it it will hold, but either way the retail investor should not be locked out.
Re: unemployment figures
Submitted by fjd10595 (105 comments) on Fri, 07/02/2010 - 08:47 #65302
regarding bills' comment today on the public or retail investor being 'locked out' for an hour or so when these reports come out at 8 30. I agree it is wrong and there are easy fixes. Fixes we won't get. Right now, futures are up on the employment report. Don't know it it will hold, but either way the retail investor should not be locked out.
Only in America the land of the free, which we will celibate soon(Bill says we should consider these concepts)does our free money get treated best. I envision a multi-suctioning mosquito sucking our vital fluids and various electrolytes which it uses to sustain its existence.
EDit?
Reading as happens, I came across a piece detailing that we are dried up as in more value to be siphoned off and the "Gods workers" are moving along with the IMF over to the developing countries to insert or further insert there value creating strategies for the benefit of mankind.
Cara 100 Update
MSFT - Microsoft initiated with a Buy at CLSA. Target $32
Debt Explosion
I am new to this site in posting a comment,but the post explaining the Moon Shot of US Debt on June 30 was a real eye opener. Is this how Fannie and Freddie are being fed dollars to sustain the US real estate market? And how long can the US keep this up without paying the piper?
Re: US PUBLIC DEBT MOONSHOT
kaimu - i have always enjoyed your posts. This one is by the far the best I have read and downright scares the hell out of me.
Quick ? for the board
When you short a stock and want to set a buy to limit losses, what is that term called?
Spain Mystery
Shortly after Spain's credit rating was cut it had a successful sale of its sovereign bonds. I have never seen a satisfactory disclosure regarding the identity of the bond purchasers. I wonder whether the bond buyers were the ECB or the US Federal Reserve, or both. Does anybody know?
The successful sale is very close in time to the recent rally in the euro and decline in the price of gold. Could there be a connection?
What a beautiful day!!!!!!!!!!!
Netherlands 2 Brazil 1
This is better than a 1000 point rise in the market!!!!!! The Dutch are beautifulll!!!
Rational Thinking?
I don't think I've ever been much good at assigning 'value' to 'stuff'. Once Jon Koncak (*BWS) got a 6 year, 12 million dollar contract to play in the NBA, value concepts took on new meaning.
*BWS - Big, white stiff
Ergo, disaster 'options' seemed 'as good as anything'...like some FAZ LEAP calls when things were 'good' and now some BLK near-term butterflies in a countering move.
All of us have to ask, where do the jobs come from? (I'm told it's hard for a teen to get a McDonald's job because older people have been getting them)...
Longer-term, trying to become more energy self-sufficient would seem a logical 'theme', even if the existing energy purveyors diversified into it to continue to profit...via biofuels, batteries, wind, solar, geothermal...and making the energy grid more efficient. Selling 40K Chevy 'Volt' cars doesn't seem really smart in this economy...
The next quantitative ease by Bernanke and company? Is he planning on guaranteeing everyone's debt in the world? Or is it possible that 'zero hour', when more debt produces zero growth has already arrived.
Is there any more important chart than the ten-year yield? No matter what the knuckle-draggers may say on Tout TV, the ten-year seems to keep saying deflation.
So much for my Thomas Wolfe impression...
http://www.businessweek.com/news/2010-07-02/rosenb...
Re: What a beautiful day!!!!!!!!!!!
LOL!
I am currently in Buenos Aires, Argentina and people are celebrating on the streets as if the Argentineans had won that game. Brasil is Argentina's worst enemy when it comes to soccer (and vice versa). Tomorrow will be interesting.
Re: Spain Mystery
PIMCO's Bill Gross said it wasn't him & guessed it was the two big Spanish banks, I assumed STD & BBVA, at the request of the govt. Which govt? It was so successful it was over-subscribed. I want to issue some personal bonds and then just roll them 4ever.
Price discovery for PMs happens over on the CRIMEX, oops, COMEX. Banks control this too. JPM & HBC hold big shorts according to COT report. Could there be a connection here?
Eccentricity and all
We've made the Agora list of Top Ten Bloggers
http://dailyreckoning.com/the-best-investing-blogs/
Does that put me out of the box or just a basket case?
Cara 100 Update (Final)
FSLR - estimates were raised through 2011, UBS said. Checks show better pricing, given utility momentum. Neutral rating and $128 price target.
JNPR - price target reduced to $25 at UBS. Estimates also cut, as routing demand should begin to slow down. Neutral rating.
Re: Eccentricity and all
I would vote for out of the box. Eccentricity is the new "normal". You are just ahead of the curve. I wish it wouldn't take so long for others to catch up to you. Then we might make some progress!
Re: Eccentricity and all
lol eccentric and honest beats Ben Bernanke et al.'s act anyday. Perhaps eccentric is codeword for taking to task the Washington elite too frequently? bon weekend.
Re: unemployment figures
follow up to Niall Ferguson interview. previously posted but a good reminder.
http://www.businessinsider.com/niall-ferguson-sove...
Re: Eccentricity and all
Eccentric? Hell, I thought you were the new normal.
Congrats.
Great post! I think I will
Great post! I think I will just watch the tennis and the world cup as there is a lot of long and short calls being made here. I might even jump into my piper flight simulator I could do with a break, just as well its near the 4th July.
Re: Eccentricity and all
Good show, uncle Bill!
Later.
What happened at the end of today....
bodes well for shorts on Tuesday...
IMHO
Re: What happened at the end of today....
"Bodes well for shorts on Tuesday"
Don't read too much, or in fact, anything, into it. The hired slaves are minding the HB&B desk while the slezy boys rejoice in the Hamptons. One look at the volume tells you it was a day to forget.
home for the weekend
Traders didn't want to take any equities home for the weekend. SPX losing 12 points in 15 minutes is not exactly a bullish sign. At least it didn't close at the low for the day...
Re: Eccentricity and all
Bill:
Does that put me out of the box or just a basket case?
Interesting question....
Congrats..
Hussman's Recession Warning
"Based on evidence that has always and only been observed during or immediately prior to U.S. recessions, the U.S. economy appears headed into a second leg of an unusually challenging downturn."
"From an inflation standpoint, is important to recognize the distinction between what occurs during a credit crisis and what occurs afterward. Credit strains typically create a nearly frantic demand for government liabilities that are considered default-free (even if they are subject to inflation risk). This raises the marginal utility of government liabilities relative to the marginal utility of goods and services. That's an economist's way of saying that interest rates drop and deflation pressures take hold. Commodity price declines are also common, which is a word of caution to investors accumulating gold here, who may experience a roller-coaster shortly. Over the short-term, very large quantities of money and government debt can be created with seemingly no ill effects. It's typically several years after the crisis that those liabilities lose value, ultimately at a very rapid pace."
"In short, my concerns about the economy and financial markets are escalating quickly. Given the already vulnerable condition of the U.S. economy, a second phase of weakness would most likely contribute to already troubling levels of mortgage delinquency and foreclosure, and could be expected to push the unemployment rate toward 12%. It is not useful to rule out unfavorable outcomes simply because they seem unpleasant or unthinkable. It is also not useful to place superstitious hope in the Fed and the Treasury to fix the consequences of irresponsible lending without any ill effect. In the coming quarters, remember that every time you hear an incomprehensibly large bailout commitment from government, it will equate to an unconscionably large extraction of public resources, possibly through overt taxation, but more likely through the long-term destruction of purchasing power."
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Hussman's Full Market Comment Here:
http://www.hussmanfunds.com/wmc/wmc100628.htm
If you prefer a video format, Morningstar interviewed him about this week's commentary here:
http://www.morningstar.com/cover/videoCenter.aspx?...
Re: Eccentricity and all
golfer,
My motto is that unless you are running for politics or CEO, always play the under-dog and never take yourself too seriously. We are only special in God's eyes.
Re: Hussman's Recession Warning
Thanks Bull Hunter.
Hussman is a real gem. One of the few whose objectivity is beyond reproach. I read his work but he rarely comes out of his bat cave for interviews. When he does so, you know he means it. He may be wrong. I hope so. I never thought we would have a chance to take out SP 667 til 2013-14 but if the ECRI stats continue to crash dive, who knows.
Thanks again...
Perhaps this echo's what Bill has been talking about....
from Fleck tonight.... http://adventuresincapitalism.com/post/2010/07/02/...
A Quick Lesson In Gubmint Math
So how does the unemployment rate mysteriously drop from 9.7% to 9.5% when anyone with anything other than rice pudding between their ears knows the drop is complete BS ?
Easy. Just consider 652,000 disgruntled work seekers as "left the workforce", therefore NOT unemployed, then make the happy assumption that the birth/death model created 147,000 new jobs.
"Make no mistake: We are headed in the right direction." ---- Barack Obama
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Note to Ross:
Glad you enjoyed the interview. Bill's WIR and Hussman's Weekly Comment are staples of this investor.
Regards,
BH
A background article on deep water drilling
http://www.spiegel.de/international/world/0,1518,7...
The gulf accident looks like one of the shallower regions of deep water drilling in the world. Oil looks like it is about to get much more difficult to extract and thus expensive.
Re: Hussman's Recession Warning
Bull Hunter, Ross,
I have been a weekly reader of Hussman for several years and have always found him to be among the most objective. I like his reluctance to predict, but rather to let the numbers speak the message.
The two guys in the Morningstar interview presented useful data, but like most people a "sell side" bias slipped into their comments at the end. Rejecting the idea of a "new normal" may just have been due to the youth of the one fellow — to those of us who remember a far better "old normal" (post WW2 until NAFTA ushered in a very different "normal") expecting a good US economy seems unlikely.
I tend to favor anecdotal evidence and within the past two weeks the 50 something son of a good friend lost his local banking job of more than 25 years. Last night I heard that another friend's son (age 26 in Florida) has lost his third job in three years and has been unable to find anything even part time.
Another told me of students, recent grads with a 6-figure student loans, have had no response from resumes sent out some time ago.
Talk of any "recovery" are nonsense IMO.
Re: Dollar down, market up?...
so bounce extreme was for amateur hour before a sell off and brief revival towards close. It is getting easier to ignore the wandering, aimless action during the middle of session and concentrate on the volatile opening and close, although HAL offered a .50 short trigger at midday as its fellow conspirators BP APC RIG were all down while it was, I assume, chewing through bids.
I noticed on the $vix chart that spikes in volatility coincide with bottoming of $spx before a market bounce occurs. I'll be interested to see if it is bounce time Tuesday.
I've not paid daily attention to chart analysis in larger time frame as I have now the flexibility to work with whatever opportunity arises in real time, but I was surprised to look over a chart commentary I made at the beginning of May and saw how pertinent it was. Hey, even a broken clock is right twice a day! The MA crossover was a short (is that the dark cross being referred to?).
Renewal time is coming up for this subscription, which I am not going to renew, but there certainly is something to learning TA. I'm a lazy sod lacking Bill's gift for numbers, so I'll stick to what I believe is my niche, at least until the great purge occurs in the markets and politics to clean out the rot. Then perhaps as Vad points out, I'll take this strategy and use it in a larger time frame.
bon long weekend all.
Re: A Quick Lesson In Gubmint Math
"Make no mistake: We are headed in the right direction." ---- Barack Obama
Let's hope he is sent in the right direction (out the door) in 2012.
Saturday Brunch: Give Discredit Where Discredit Is Due
http://ronsen.blogspot.com/2010/07/will-field-of-e...
Commentary from around the Net, including some gems on 'dark crosses', job creation, and a new leader in home building. Have a terrific weekend; I got the short straw on the long weekend.
I believe!
Many of us here in the Cara Community are constantly searching for patterns of the past that indicate future movements of market behavior as well as individual stocks to put our money on.
A recent 18 minute TED talk concerning patterns, beliefs and the mind's natural propensity for self deception is one I think we would be interested in giving a listen to.
http://tinyurl.com/2v2y3ev
TEOTWAWKI* (The End Of The World As We Know It)— Part I
¹²Royal Bank of Scotland: Get Ready For The “Cliff Edge”
Click here for a link to complete edited article:
By PragmaticCapitalism | 30 June 2010
I've read some alarming research in recent weeks and months, but this one takes the cake. RBS is sounding the alarm on risk assets with a call that markets are "at risk of falling off the edge of the cliff". They refer to equity investors as the "worst cult in history…. which has no basis in fact, or history, but yet seems universally accepted". (There's actually a strange truth in that comment). They believe the current downturn could very well "destroy" this "cult":
They're not just bullish on treasuries— they are super bulls with a 2% target on 10 year yields:
In terms of valuations they don't see today's levels as being particularly attractive:
M O R E...
TEOTWAWKI* (The End Of The World As We Know It)— Part II
¹²RBS Tells Clients To Prepare For 'Monster' Money-Printing By The Federal Reserve
Click here for a link to complete edited article:
By Ambrose Evans-Pritchard, Telegraph.co.UK | 27 June 2010
Entitled "Deflation: Making Sure It Doesn't Happen Here", it is a warfare manual for defeating economic slumps by use of 'extreme' monetary stimulus once interest rates have dropped to zero and, implicitly, once governments have spent themselves to near bankruptcy. The speech is best known for its irreverent one-liner: "The US government has a technology, called a printing press, that allows it to produce as many US dollars as it wishes at essentially no cost". Bernanke began putting the script into action after the credit system seized up in 2008, purchasing $1.75 trillion of Treasuries, mortgage securities, and agency bonds to shore up the US credit system. He stopped far short of the $5 trillion balance sheet quietly pencilled in by the Fed Board as the upper limit for quantitative easing (QE).
Investors basking in 'Wall Street's V-shaped rally' had assumed that this bizarre episode was over. So did the Fed, which has been shutting liquidity spigots one by one. But the latest batch of data is quite disturbing.
The Weekly Leading Indicator produced by the Economic Cycle Research Institute plummeted yet again last week to -6.9, pointing to contraction in the US by the end of the year. It is dropping faster than at any time in the post-War era.
The latest data from the CPB Netherlands Bureau shows that world trade slid 1.7% in May, with the biggest fall in Asia. The Baltic Dry Index measuring freight rates on bulk goods has dropped 40% in a month. (But this is a volatile index that can be easily distorted, eg, by the supply of new ships. Still, those who watch it as an early warning signal for China and commodities are nervous.)
Andrew Roberts, credit chief at RBS, is advising clients to read the Bernanke text very closely because the Fed is soon going to have to pull the lever on "monster" quantitative easing (QE)". "We cannot stress enough how strongly we believe that a cliff-edge may be around the corner, for the global banking system (particularly in Europe) and for the global economy. Think the unthinkable," he said in a note to investors. "We do."
M O R E...
Re: TEOTWAWKI* (The End Of The World As We Know It)— Part I
"Get ready for the cliff-edge. Be maximum long duration of nominal government bonds in safe haven markets."
If I understand monetary history even a little now, I believe this is one of the worse calls that can be made or at least one with significant risk. I'd be more willing to bet on destruction of value on these bonds with inflation or debt default and a significant haircut in value. Then again, I'm not buy and hold equities, so I don't have to choose either.
http://www.businessinsider.com/niall-ferguson-sove...
Not knocking the post. Discussion is always good. But if I'm guessing end game according to Kaimu's observations, Uncle Sam doesn't pay its dues this time. Of course I can be wrong.
'politics as usual' revealed
sorry, couldn't help myself posting this one...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/comment/7869928/Barack-...
Re: TEOTWAWKI* (The End Of The World As We Know It)— Part I
¹²
No, you've simply succumbed to the current error of looking for either a deflation or a runaway inflation. In fact, we will see both. But, immediately ahead lies the spector of deflation. As Evans-Pritchard (who is hardly a Krugmanite) says:
The US M3 money supply
has contracted by 5.5% over the last year, and the pace is accelerating: the 'trimmed mean' index (of inflation) is now 0.6% on a six-month basis, the lowest ever. America is one twist shy of a debt-deflation trap.There is no doubt that the Fed has the tools to stop this
[[FDR succeeded in shifting the economy from deflation to inflation within months of his inaugeration, though it did not seem to help the economy much: normxxx]]. "Sufficient injections of money will ultimately always reverse a deflation," said Bernanke. The question is whether he can muster support for such action in the face of massive popular disgust, a Republican Fronde in Congress, and resistance from the liquidationsists at the Kansas, Philadelphia, and Richmond Feds. If he cannot, we are in grave trouble.[[1932, here we come!: normxxx]]
Govt or business?
This article IMO sums it up, succinct and simple:
http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/pol...
Can't help but remember John Galt's "Get out of the way!"
Re: TEOTWAWKI* (The End Of The World As We Know It)— Part I
but Norm, how does maximum duration bonds in US debt protect investors?
1932, here we come. Yeh, it took WW2 to fix America's woes. I wonder what it'll take this time. Can't be good for debt holders IMO.
As page 8 of Armstrong's paper on the Euro suggests, it is one heck of a wild ride we are possibly going to be subjected to. What happens in a Euro crash? Holding govt. debt in such a scenario is not for the faint hearted.
cheers.
Re: TEOTWAWKI* (The End Of The World As We Know It)— Part I
I think that if Professor Bernanke had his way, he would take interest rates negative, in other words, confiscate the savings of those who actually have any, and 'force' them to purchase other risk assets. I would not set that possibility at zero. If the economic mad scientist Bernanke 'forced' you to buy 'something' by lower rates sub-zero, what would you buy? I don't think it would be dollars. Central bankers (like all of us) have their own core beliefs that may not differ so much from those of the flat earthers.
I saw something suggesting that the 'average' 55ish year old has less than 25,000 saved for retirement...in other words, most people are relying on the gubmint Ponzi scheme known as Social Security to carry them through.
Those who predicted that globalization would produce a convergence of lifestyles (US lower, emerging world higher) as a result of capital finding more attractive use, sure are looking like geniuses now. If you carry out the exercise of going to Macy's (for example) and trying to find something made in the US, you will understand after five minutes. Of note, in the ICU, every drug, IV bag, and piece of medical equipment has a made in the USA label.
Re: TEOTWAWKI* (The End Of The World As We Know It)— Part I
"Those who predicted that globalization would produce a convergence of lifestyles (US lower, emerging world higher) as a result of capital finding more attractive use, sure are looking like geniuses now."
This I do remember as an argument from some years ago. Pity there was no informed debate for the average 55 year old as to end game possibilities and consequences. As we fully appreciate here, choices are now significantly limited and still people are being herded by Washington's game. Come on Americans, buy our victory bonds.
Sorry Norm it's not a question of expectations of outcomes, for me it all comes down to risk. And Uncle Sam is the 800lbs gorilla threatening everyone's wealth.
Re: TEOTWAWKI* (The End Of The World As We Know It)— Part I
I read on here in late 2007 or early to middle 2008 that the war(s) was(were) like an after thought regarding economic recovery and that they more or less provided cover for spending and the industrial-government complex.
Does anyone remember this or maybe this is not true?
Re: TEOTWAWKI* (The End Of The World As We Know It)— Part I
g, it's not my intention to suggest that World War 2 was anything but an excuse to ratchet up the industrial output of the United States. This was the case. What will retool the United States this time, so that its people may create REAL wealth? Crikey, I'm starting to sound like Kaimu now...
Re: TEOTWAWKI* (The End Of The World As We Know It)— Part I
The trick is one of timing. If you assume (as the RBS does) that 'massive' stimulus will shortly be forthcoming, with the 10-year bond rate going to 2%, then the 30-year bonds will see a huge capital gain (they are betting >10%). For comparison, over the last 10 years or so, the SPX is now down around 10% while those 30-year bonds (assuming annual rollover) is up around 129%! But you better be prepared to switch on a dime when the financial climate shifts from deflation to inflation. (The cause of the deflation is the destruction of some $750 trillion in derivatives and/or related private/governmental debt, which is highly deflationary. But when that destructive process ends, watch out!)
It's why you probably want to keep to USTs or gold. The US government need never default as long as it can just print the money to pay off any claims on it! This is only partly true for the euro— since there are no euro bonds, only the bonds of the individual countries, and only Germany bunds looks solid enough to invest in. But, since everyone thinks so, German debt is probably overpriced.
Re: TEOTWAWKI* (The End Of The World As We Know It)— Part I
k thanks norm.
Re: TEOTWAWKI* (The End Of The World As We Know It)— Part I
In fact, as Evans-Pritchard points out (check out my second reference):
Re: TEOTWAWKI* (The End Of The World As We Know It)— Part I
OK
Tax-Cap Agreement
Christie, New Jersey Democrats Said to Reach Tax-Cap Agreement
Somebody finally gets it done.
http://tiny.cc/f34d7
http://www.state.nj.us/governor/
Illinois
The complaints I read on this blog about conditions in Illinois appear not to be harsh enough.
http://tinyurl.com/37dkv3f
"For the last few years, California stood more or less unchallenged as a symbol of the fiscal collapse of states during the recession. Now Illinois has shouldered to the fore, as its dysfunctional political class refuses to pay the state’s bills and refuses to take the painful steps — cuts and tax increases — to close a deficit of at least $12 billion, equal to nearly half the state’s budget.
Then there is the spectacularly mismanaged pension system, which is at least 50 percent underfunded and, analysts warn, could push Illinois into insolvency if the economy fails to pick up."
"From suburban Elgin to Chicago to Rockford to Peoria, school districts have fired thousands of teachers, curtailed kindergarten and electives, drained pools and cut after-school clubs. Drug, family and mental health counseling centers have slashed their work forces and borrowed money to stave off insolvency.
In Beardstown, a small city deep in the western marshes, Ann Johnson plans to shut her century-old pharmacy. Because of late state payments, she could not afford to keep a 10-day supply of drugs. In Chicago, a funeral home owner wonders whether he can afford to bury the impoverished, as the state has fallen six months behind on its charity payments, $1,103 a funeral."
Re: Tax-Cap Agreement
Grym,
As much as I loathe both Republicrats and Demopublicans, I do like Chris Christie.
He talks the talk AND walks the walk. He'd be exactly the kind of President we need during these economic times. Hopefully, the RNC will notice.
Regards,
BH
Re: Tax-Cap Agreement
BH,
This is the first I've heard of him. He was being interviewed by Paul Giggot and sounded impressive, so I googled to read about him.
He looks young and has a pragmatic approach. One of his comments today ended with, "We will let the people decide." Sounds great to me and a lot of what he set out to do has been accomplished.
It was done in spite of a Democratic state legislature. (At least that is what I picked up from the interview. His approach was that if these guys want to keep their jobs they had better address the issues the people are most concerned about.
A revolutionary approach — from 1775!
I'll watch him with interest. I'm unimpressed with any others who may want to challenge Obama so far.
Interesting Wall Street Videos
Was looking at the hulu.com site to see what videos they have out there. Came upon an interesting series of videos about the daily work lives of several wall street professionals (pit traders, cold callers, day-trading interns, cotton options traders, etc.). Here's one
http://www.hulu.com/watch/15493/wall-street-warrio...
Looks like 16 of them....
http://www.hulu.com/search?query=Wall+Street+Warri...
Very interesting how things really work....
ABOLISH INCOME TAX
ALOHA!!
Its a good start and worth a second thought ... Once again there is Nothing New Under The Sun.
Consider the effect upon the production of wealth.
To abolish the taxation which, acting and reacting, now hampers every wheel of exchange and presses upon every form of industry, would be like removing an immense weight from a powerful spring. Imbued with fresh energy, production would start into new life, and trade would receive a stimulus which would be felt to the remotest arteries. The present method of taxation operates upon exchange like artificial deserts and mountains;
* it costs more to get goods through a custom house than it does to carry them around the world.
* It operates upon energy, and industry, and skill, and thrift, like a fine upon those qualities.
* If I have worked harder and built myself a good house while you have been contented to live in a hovel, the taxgatherer now comes annually to make me pay a penalty for my energy and industry, by taxing me more than you.
* If I have saved while you wasted, I am mulct, while you are exempt.
* If a man build a ship we make him pay for his temerity, as though he had done an injury to the state;
* if a railroad be opened, down comes the tax collector upon it, as though it were a public nuisance;
* if a manufactory be erected we levy upon it an annual sum which would go far toward making a handsome profit.
* We say we want capital, but if any one accumulate it, or bring it among us, we charge him for it as though we were giving him a privilege.
* We punish with a tax the man who covers barren fields with ripening grain,
* we fine him who puts up machinery, and him who drains a swamp.
How heavily these taxes burden production only those realize who have attempted to follow our system of taxation through its ramifications, for, as I have before said, the heaviest part of taxation is that which falls in increased prices.
To abolish these taxes would be to lift the whole enormous weight of taxation from productive industry. The needle of the seamstress and the great manufactory; the cart horse and the locomotive; the fishing boat and the steamship; the farmer's plow and the merchant's stock, would be alike untaxed. All would be free to make or to save, to buy or to sell, unfined by taxes, unannoyed by the taxgatherer. Instead of saying to the producer, as it does now, "The more you add to the general wealth the more shall you be taxed!" the state would say to the producer, "Be as industrious, as thrifty, as enterprising as you choose, you shall have your full reward! You shall not be fined for making two blades of grass grow where one grew before; you shall not be taxed for adding to the aggregate wealth."
And will not the community gain by thus refusing to kill the goose that lays the golden eggs; by thus refraining from muzzling the ox that treadeth out the corn; by thus leaving to industry, and thrift, and skill, their natural reward, full and unimpaired?
Henry George's, Progress & Poverty "Part IX — Effects of the Remedy: Chapter 1 — Of the effect upon the production of wealth" (1879)
Consider the "Community" first, not Wall Street and most certainly not DC ... Today we live in a World where the reverse dominates our daily lives. Everything and every political and monetary entity is first, while Community is dead last. This is un-Constitutional in practice.
Re: ABOLISH INCOME TAX
Very nice Kaimu, certainly on the Money . First we have to vote out those that would change the U.S for the worse , through unending Spending and increasing TAXES . Bob.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1291837/Cameron-orders-M
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1291837/Ca...
Bill, is this what you hoped would happen with Cameron?
Re: ABOLISH INCOME TAX
Don't tax you. Don't tax me. Tax that fellow behind that tree!
Seriously, HENRY GEORGE! A dullard and wannabe parvenu whose first treatise was against Chinese immigration. How topical today. He was anti tarriff but that was just a 'hot button' talking point in the evolution from merchantilism. Seriously, HENRY GEORGE!!! Damn Kaimu. Put a hat on. I suggest Baku straw in the summertime.
HENRY GEORGE; "WE MUST MAKE LAND COMMON PROPERTY." 'Although this could be done by nationalizing land and then leasing it to private parties, introducing a large land value TAX causes the VALUE of land titles to decrease...'
But George did not believe LANDOWNERS should be COMPENSATED... Who the Hell did he think he was, KING HENRY or KING GEORGE! I could see King John AKA LACKLAND argueing that point. George was a demented proto Commie punk who wrote for effect and adulation. Fortunately most considered the source...and the source was flacid indeed!
Oh hell, I agree with you on abolishing the income tax. No one can define 'income.' Perhaps we need an asset tax or some type of transaction tax that levels the field. Whichever, I do know that a constitutional convention is necessary to save whatever semblance of a Republic we may have left. Probably pie in the sky, says I.
But if you advocate taking my land without compensation...let me rephrase that to include taking of land with even FORCED compenastion at someone elses valuation is tanamount to THEFT. Two words. PISS OFF. I shoot theives and their lackeys!
"Consider the community first, not Wall Street and most certainly DC." My community consists of people I trust not a commune of mankind. There is no 'mankind' only men.
Better if we argued Ricardo, Hume or even Marx. How's bout the theory of capital being essentially the excess value of labour and properly monetized invested into new productive schemes? Perhaps even the comparative history of the money thought of other civilizations and where we might be in the skein of a historic supercycle? You know there is an end game to all this tomfoolery and it doesn't necessarily have to end badly. Common sense and desperation have ways of attracting 'great fact men.'
Sorry that I have been too much a kibitizer on this trading site. I am not a trader. I am also not a conspiracist or a gold as 'real money' voyeur although to my mind it is an investable asset class. But only that.
I think you are all very blessed to have Bill Cara as a guide and mentor. He understands the workings of markets. Few do but blogging in real time with idiot comments from the likes of me must be frustrating. Try not to muck up his sandbox with too much cat dung. Be measured in your assessments and always remember 'on the other hand.'
All the best, always. Farewell and
Happy Julius the Fourth Day............
SPQR
Re: ABOLISH INCOME TAX
Some level of government activity is required to maintain society. To me a more interesting question might be, how do we fund such activity? (I'm assuming you are not advocating no government at all) To have government, it needs to be funded in order to support its operations. So assuming that, what types of taxes would be considered "ok" - and why is one tax better than another?
In my opinion, that's more interesting than simply calling for abolition of taxes using the whiny golden-egg-laying-goose approach.
EDIT: my first draft of this was more like what Ross wrote but I was not in my cups, as he so clearly is :)
this weekend
So Bill, I've been eyeing some stocks to buy this weekend, and here you come with the WIR suggesting we should start - eyeing some stocks to buy.
I'm seeing QCOM (AZ 2 days) WAG (AZ 9 days) and XOM (AZ 4 days). I don't have target prices; I'm just looking at the charts to try and spot accumulation so I can jump in along with the big guys. But the prices seem a whole lot better than they were a few short months ago. (There are quite a few others I'm looking at, but these were the ones that stood out to me)
FD: I'm long WAG (short puts actually)
Great wir. and great idea to
Great wir. and great idea to take time off! I hope you don't read this comment as that would mean you are cheating! The pressure is on the rest of the distinguished commenters to carry the ball. I am sure they will. Thanks to everyone. I learn a great deal.
For the past four weeks, have been watching Prices, relative
to charts.... I do not believe certain, select, High quality equities will mimic March 2009.. By this, I mean MSFT, CSCO, IBM, ect.. I will even throw in BAC.. God knows, I love charts, but at certain points in time there is a divergence in price/time and value is bought. Bill is Totally correct in the WIR... there comes a point where value is On Sale.. May sound odd coming from me ( as I love the small cap, high flyers ), but MSFT seems very close to a great buy ( I would love to see $ 21.00, although $ 22.30 looks good to me ).. Several managers I totally respect have basically said, if MSFT can't hold, then the entire S&P won't, either. I agree.. However, I do not believe the world is not coming to an end... just a change in the Power structure.. Like Bill says, its all a dance, so no need to ' hang ten ' (!!!), just ride the waves with a clear head... good trades to all..
BP's Lord Brown is the UK's new efficiency czar
http://tinyurl.com/35kavqt
"Browne is widely blamed for the drastic cuts of BP’s safety and maintenance program of its oil installations in the U.S. while he was BP’s CEO between 1998 and 2007. The consequence of those cuts were three major accidents in the U.S.—an explosion at the Texas City refinery in 2005, two oil spills in Alaska in 2006; and the current catastrophe in the Gulf of Mexico. Adamantly, Browne has refused to discuss his responsibility for the Gulf crisis. He is undoubtedly relieved that the British government decided to ignore the allegations about his culpability and promote him to a senior position."
This makes no sense unless the so called PR gaffes, e.g. "I want my life back" and "little people", are not gaffes at all and represent a glimpse into a world where policies that willfully cause environmental damage and loss of life are officially sanctioned and not unforeseen accidents.
Support for SPY is 8##, key support for Global 100 is here
Simple graphic understanding of why stocks might turn here. Let's see if the global gang can turn the American markets.
Anderson Cooper this weekend. Gov't inhibits access to oil scene
and could issue $40,000 fine for coming closer than 65 feet of booms, vessels, or wildlife/oil on beaches, etc.
http://bit.ly/dhH99p
As we celebrate this Country's Declaration of Independence from Great Britain, I wonder if we are independent at all from the corporatacracy and fallacy's used to keep the spirit of freedom locked idle deep in the corners of our hearts.
Enjoy your Independence!
Re: ABOLISH INCOME TAX
ALOHA!!
Ross ... I knew I could rely on you to be black and white when it came to HENRY GEORGE! HA!! That is why I purposefully posted only the TAX part of GEORGE'S "Remedy".
If you have ever been to a 12 Step Meeting there is a very well used saying there. It relates to ideas and beliefs ... TAKE WHAT YOU WANT AND LEAVE THE REST! I live by that and when you do then "everybody" is profound at least once!
Even OBAMA has a good idea once in awhile! Last year I posted about his idea to remove banks from the student loan system. I was in the hospital at the time watching that speech on TV and I applauded that!! RIGHT ON OBAMA!!! He nailed it ... Sorry to say he hasn't had a good idea since then. Well ... at least not one that he has made public!
By the way has he kept that "promise"? Are banks out of the student loan system? He has done a great job of keeping banks out of toxic mortgages though!!!
Re: For the past four weeks, have been watching Prices, relative
baz22,
I agree there will be a time for judicial selection, but after reading a link here (sorry I don't remember who gave it) I am more cautious than ever.
The Macro Trumps All Else
July 2, 2010 8:57 AM
http://tiny.cc/l13ub
I saw a similar pattern in my own business. With the globalization push all the old measures went out the window — quality, service, loyalty. The ONLY thing which mattered was price.
A new term appeared in the graphics business (probably elsewhere too) the "reverse Auction".
A client would call for a quote — choose the 3 or 4 lowest, have them rebid with perhaps more stringent specs like better paper, more photos or increased number of copies.
Then it would go to anyone willing to work for nearly nothing just to keep his employees paid.
Re: ABOLISH INCOME TAX
ALOHA!!
Dave ... INCOME tax ... That does not include excise, sales and the other taxes that government imposes for infrastructure. If I read my US CONSTITUTION correctly "income tax" was not part of the original plan and this country ran quite well through many greater upheavals than we have now without permanent INCOME taxes.
Besides as I have so arduously tried to point out the US TREASURY has gone way beyond the point of no return on taxation. At some point the Treasury could levy a 90% tax on INCOME and it would make no difference in the avoidance of default. Then look at the States in America and the cities. California is one of the most heavily taxed States in America and so is New York.
Taxation is used to pay off "promises", to keep "political promises" alive, to make sure the current two party political monopoly retains power. None of our taxes go to pay off the debt principal, only the interest, so that even more debt can be accumulated on top of more debt. That is fiscal insanity! In my mind INCOME taxes are irrelevant to the fiscal sanity of the US government and those we elect to lead us. This will be the first time that the passengers went down with the ship while the Captain and the crew saved themselves first!
INDEPENDENCE
ALOHA!!
Meanwhile over at TIME magazine on the cover June 28, 2010 is this ...
LINK: http://www.time.com/time/covers/0,16641,1101100628...
When I was in my 20s just entering the workforce, with all the raw enthusiasm of youth, I would have never imagined that by time I retired I would see a TIME magazine cover like that! Even now it is shocking to look at! At some point contrarian is just another word in the dictionary.
The notion that a country's wealth is measured by where the DOW sits seems about as accurate as saying all Americans are wealthy as Oprah always implies. But Oprah ... what exactly is "wealth"? If it is the ability to spend beyond ones means, living off credit, then yes America is truly a wealthy Nation. I would suspect that most of Oprah's audience lives in a house with a mortgage. If that is the case then I would not consider anyone tied to a 30 year mortgage as "wealthy". Unless debt is wealth! Certainly the US TREASURY considers "debt" as wealth, otherwise the treasury would not accumulate so much of it. Debt is not wealth. Far from it. The ability to pay a mortgage depends upon your income, your job. Then when you consider how much "net income"(after taxes) you need to produce in your lifetime to pay off your mortgage you have to wonder just exactly who's AMERICAN DREAM is it anyway? Debt slavery isn't exactly what I would classify as a "dream". Who exactly has "sold" us on the whole AMERICAN DREAM concept of debt accumulation, because as far as I can see the AMERICAN DREAM is yet another monetary fraud of the political and banking industry.
LINK: http://tinyurl.com/29zvord
As we all celebrate the FOURTH OF JULY or INDEPENDENCE DAY you have to wonder what our Founding Fathers would say if they were alive today. Many Americans have died in the name of Freedom over the many decades since 1776. Is this truly the vision they had of America over two hundred years ago? Have we finally arrived at the PROMISED LAND as Martin Luther King used to say? Well, we certainly have been "promised" many things by many Presidents. Come November we will be hearing a barrage of yet more political "promises".
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Debt.
HAPPY FOURTH!!!
Re: TEOTWAWKI* (The End Of The World As We Know It)— Part I
Wow you must be right norm, Roubini backs u up.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-07-04/roubini-s...
Talk about jumping on the bandwagon...
Speaking of bandwagons, Australian banksters are on record now for jumping on the credit crisis bandwagon and wining and dining the Federal Minister for Finance, who obligingly offered cheap money in return allowing Macquarie to have a very profitable 2009. Sad to say, the politics of Oz stink as much as the US.
http://www.smh.com.au/business/revealed-macquarie-...
Re: ABOLISH INCOME TAX
Sure, we'd all love for INCOME TAX to go away. But why is it worse than the others? Your chosen advocate was not suggesting just eliminating INCOME TAXES, he was suggesting getting rid of all sorts of taxes.
Why is INCOME TAX worse than, say, sales taxes or property taxes? I'm assuming you have more information on why one tax is better than another to support your opinion, and I'd like to hear what they are.
Simple advocacy is less interesting to me than reasoned argument. And an "appeal to history" is not convincing to me either. As an example, our original founders wrote slavery right into our constitution, and that worked right up until it didn't. Founders make mistakes too.
I'm not arguing FOR income tax, nor against. I'm interested in hearing why ONE TAX is preferred over ANOTHER TAX.
You say that income taxes are irrelevant. Why are excise taxes relevant and income tax is not? Isn't money fungible?
I have read all your postings on how the USG has basically overrun its income sources. I understand all of that. I'm focusing on why you're picking on income tax, without looking at the myriad of other tax sources that could also be eliminated.
The Risk Of Recession
¹²The Risk Of Recession
Click here for a link to complete edited article:
By John Mauldin | July 2010
The Risk Of Recession
The Leading Indicators Are Starting to Turn
Terms of Trade and US Real GDP
Bernanke at the Crossroads
Some Really Dismal Numbers
Unemployment Went Down?
Earnings Take a Hit
Money Supply Concerns
A Central Banker's Nightmare
The Risk Of Recession
I am on record as saying I think there is a 50-50 chance we slip back into recession in 2011, as I think the economy will soften in the latter half of this year and a large tax increase in 2011 (from the expiring Bush tax cuts) will tip us into recession. This was not based on data, but rather on research which shows that tax cuts or tax increases have as much as a 3-times multiplier effect on the economy. If you cut taxes by 1% of GDP then you get as much as a 3% boost in the economy. The reverse is true for tax increases. Christina Romer, Obama's head of the Council of Economic Advisors, did the research along with her husband, so this is not a Republican conclusion.
If the economy is growing at less than 2% by the end of the year, then a tax increase of more than 1% of GDP could and probably would be the tipping point. Add in an almost equal amount of state and local tax increases (and spending cuts) and you have the recipe for a full-blown recession— at least the way I see it. I was asked at my recent speech in Milan, what sorts of things could make me wrong? There are a few. First, it could be that tax increases and cuts don't matter. Some very smart people (like Paul McCulley) feel that tax increases on 'the wealthy' don't really figure into Romer's analysis.
M O R E...
Re: For the past four weeks, have been watching Prices, relative
"Then it would go to anyone willing to work for nearly nothing just to keep his employees paid."
Grym,
I assure you, nothing has changed since your old business days.
Here in PA, most companies involved in the building/construction trade, have found their business down 30 to 50%. If it wasn't for Government busy work (paid for by guess who), most would be out of business. The ones working are doing so for peanuts, just to keep the cash flow going, hoping for better times.
Many of these contractors are not paying their bills. The sub-contractors are finding it difficult if not impossible to collect their money.
"We are headed in the right direction." --- Barack Obama
Regards,
BH
Income Tax
The best argument against the current income tax is that it is agreed by most experts that, except if you are eligible for and use the standard deduction, it is almost impossible— even for a tax expert— to produce a tax return that cannot be disputed. It is to be noted that even the IRS does not guarantee an undisputed tax return, eg, as prepared by them or based on IRS advice!
Re: The Risk Of Recession
woha norm, that's a lot of ruminating there. I'd happily wallow through it, but already went through Mauldin's letter this arvo which I see you've included:
http://www.businessinsider.com/america-the-screwed...
Rick Santelli feeds the deflation argument, calling it the central bankers bogeyman, in an interview with King World News:
http://www.kingworldnews.com/kingworldnews/Broadca...
Re: ABOLISH INCOME TAX
ALOHA!!
Dave ... But why is it worse than the others?
In a perfect World where citizens take care of their own and disparage government no taxes would be needed. I would prefer that, but we do not vote that way and our "learned" belief system is to depend on government for solutions not ourselves.
Its worse because its not Constitutional and unlike the IRS claims reporting is not "voluntary" by any means. It is also discriminatory. It violates my civil rights. The way it is administered is unfair, as some people even foreigners and corporations pay less than their fair share or no INCOME tax at all. How many US citizens are sitting in jail for failure to pay their property tax?
Slavery ... well the word is not mentioned in the original Constitution only as "importation of labor" and it was assigned to States to decide. The Founding Fathers never mentioned abolishing WAR or WEAPONS either ... So yes, there's another "mistake" you can add to your list. If you want to tear apart the US Constitution on every word or mistake then have at it, but it is the best WE THE PEOPLE could do under the circumstances of the times when it was written, which is a whole lot better than any of our leaders could do today.
Just so you understand that even if "slavery" was abolished in the US Constitution under the 13th Amendment it still flourishes in America and around the World, as a multi-billion dollar business.
LINK: http://www.ted.com/talks/kevin_bales_how_to_combat...
Then you have to consider who was really enslaving who? Like drugs today, without the drug cartels and the purveyors of drugs then those "illegal" products would not be available for public consumption. Cocaine is illegal yet you can buy it in any city in America. I actually do not believe in "legislating the human condition". Didn't we already try that with Prohibition?
All the laws in the World can be written but unless they are enforced or more to the point political will is present for "funding" enforcement then those crimes will continue unabated.
Re: ABOLISH INCOME TAX
Its the weekend, so I'm feeling a little more free to...digress on the whole tax issue today.
Kaimu said - "In a perfect World where citizens take care of their own and disparage government no taxes would be needed. I would prefer that, but we do not vote that way and our "learned" belief system is to depend on government for solutions not ourselves."
Until such time as consciousness expands among mankind to a point where warfare is eliminated among nations, where crime is a truly exceptional event, and where civic-mindedness and care for the planet and each other are the rule, I'm guessing we'll need government. It's less about "learned belief systems" and more about how people really act.
As for income taxes, kaimu said - "Its worse because its not Constitutional and unlike the IRS claims reporting is not "voluntary" by any means. It is also discriminatory. It violates my civil rights. The way it is administered is unfair, as some people even foreigners and corporations pay less than their fair share or no INCOME tax at all. How many US citizens are sitting in jail for failure to pay their property tax?""
Does the 16th Amendment not explicitly provide authorization for an income tax?
"The Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes, from whatever source derived, without apportionment among the several States, and without regard to any census or enumeration"
This was passed by the congress and the states in the approved manner in 1913. The language is pretty explicit. I'm not a constitutional scholar, but "Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes" seems to have little scope for interpretation.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sixteenth_Amendment_t...
As for taxes not being voluntary: of course they aren't. No taxes are.
As for violations of civil rights - which ones would those be? Assertion is not a compelling argument to me.
Kaimu, don't get me wrong, I'd love to stop paying income taxes, but - your points seem weak to me. I wouldn't keep on this issue otherwise.
Skimming For Fun
Les: that's why I have S/W that semi-automatically highlights things: eg, red for things that are numbered, blue for paragraph first sentences, teal for for paragraph last sentences, violet for my comments, etc. Once you get used to the color scheme, you should be able to skim with ease. (Too bad the Cara site does not allow color.)
Re: ABOLISH INCOME TAX
davefairtex said:
This was passed by the congress and the states in the approved manner in 1913. The language is pretty explicit. I'm not a constitutional scholar, but "Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes" seems to have little scope for interpretation.
But, from what I have heard the so called ratification was not complete. Further, the IRS will not produce a legal document requiring a person to pay taxes...could this be why several several people have been cleared of tax evasion when a literate jury refused to indict them? It is mass delusion...would not be the first time a type of Stockholm syndrome was elicited and we just took one for the team.
Re: For the past four weeks, have been watching Prices, relative
"We are headed in the right direction." --- Barack Obama
BH,
Makes one wonder... Who is the WE he is referring to?
Our major bank (Amcore bought by Harris) went kaput this spring due to construction halts on major Chicago area projects. Two close friends lost big time on the stock and the son of another friend will be out of work 9-17-10 along with 30% of the workers. He is the 71st person I know to lose his job since NAFTA began taking "only the low-end jobs".
When we hear comments like Obama's the blood pressure goes ballistic.
Re: ABOLISH INCOME TAX
I think the best reason for abolishing income tax is that its an abomination. Why is it so complex that you need software to produce your return? Because of all the "breaks" given to special interests that can't be made available to the "average Jo", so fill the tax code with enough complexity that we all waste hours trying to ensure that we're taking advantage of the breaks "allowed" to us but not risking an audit which might cost us nothing but lost time and sleep.
Abolish income taxes, and you no longer need an IRS - all those people that might be doing something productive with their lives.
Replace it with a consumption tax (VAT or simple sales) and you've freed the producers and savers from a burden, and placed it upon those who choose to spend. I know this is typically considered regressive, but the rich spend more because their toys are "better" than mine. Food and staples can be taxed at a lower rate. Sorry kaimu, but orchids are likely going ot be hit hard.
Side benefit might be reduced imports, since so much of our consumption is imported.
Re: For the past four weeks, have been watching Prices, relative
!!!!! Hi Grym... I'm smiling, 'cause I posted that link the other night from Fleckenstein Capital's daily rap...! ,, anyway, Yes, it is a slippery path, and I guess ' long term ' is, maybe, 2 months.. I will always, Always rely on charts to buy and sell ( especially to sell )... Its not so much the trend lines, but the Slope of the lines that bear witness these days.. Money has to flow somewhere, it cannot remain stagnant..the Players won't allow that to happen.. so this is where the training and instincts ( that Bill has tried to instill for the past many years ) really comes into focus. The biggest signal I am, personally, looking for, is, when News is a micro event, and the strength of the equity supports the trend.. this will come, its just a matter of time.. So as we all keep searching for those signals, don't let the major averages lull ya' to sleep.. A Whole lot is going on inside ' the machine ', and, as usual, we independent traders will be the final ones to be let in on the game plans, but the kinks and sparkles are there to be found.. I let Bill's RSI's be the starting point, and then see what I can find in the other indicators.. I guess if I was forced to name some numbers, I am looking for a 9300 print on DJ, simply relative to the volume deflation around June, 09', and the preceeding loss selling at January/february 09'.. the time frame of profit-selling (from the February - July 09' buying that I had blabbered about several months ago ) is almost over.. Don't be fooled by the ' new capital gains taxes ' for 2011 B.S... Profit is Profit.. The Big Boys have simply been locking in the gains from 09' for the balance sheets.. QE II is coming, and in a big way, so let's make the most of it ! best of trades to you..
Re: ABOLISH INCOME TAX
Great argument ChrisM. If it could be borne out that income taxes are more expensive to administrate than an VAT, I'd certainly be in favor. As a taxpayer, I'd rather have something simple than tracking everything I do that makes money. Businesses already track this sort of thing for sales taxes, so presumably the societal administrative burden would not increase.
A consumption tax might well reduce consumption. The 50% of america that pays no income tax would definitely not be better off with this tax in place, but as someone who tends not to consume that much, I'm in favor. Goes along with Ross's "tax the fellow behind the tree" concept.
As for Congress not having the power to tax incomes, wiki quotes "Penn Mutual Indemnity", a decision by the Third Circuit Court of Appeals, saying:
"It did not take a constitutional amendment to entitle the United States to impose an income tax. Pollock v. Farmers' Loan & Trust Co., 157 U. S. 429, 158 U. S. 601 (1895), only held that a tax on the income derived from real or personal property was so close to a tax on that property that it could not be imposed without apportionment. The Sixteenth Amendment removed that barrier. Indeed, the requirement for apportionment is pretty strictly limited to taxes on real and personal property and capitation taxes.
... Congress has the power to impose taxes generally, and if the particular imposition does not run afoul of any constitutional restrictions then the tax is lawful, call it what you will."
As for the income tax amendment not passing legitimately, this seems to me unlikely to be factual. Urban legends start from all sorts of seeds. This seems like another one of them. How likely is it that an attack of nationwide mass delusion allowed for an income tax that everyone in the country pretty much agreed to for the past 100 years? I'd say, not likely. Possible - but not likely. Occam's Razor applies: the simplest explanation is most likely correct - income taxes are entirely constitutional, regardless of people's wishes to the contrary.
US's export to the world - regulatory hurdles
Was amused by the following CNN report on the giant skimmer conceived and retrofitted from an existing tanker and then sent to the Gulf in order to be put into action without even ensuring a contract is in place.
http://www.businessinsider.com/check-out-the-giant...
No American shipbuilder had the gumption to think or plan such a machine, with all the money Obama is throwing around?
Watching bounces in the GBP and Euro and weakening dollar. EURUSD looks like inverted H&S. Note though that GBP and Euro are bouncing against the dollar. Against the Swiss Franc they remain flat.
Catching up with the state of affairs in Illinois. Looks like a nasty virus spreading in the US:
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/03/business/economy...
Re: ABOLISH INCOME TAX
ALOHA!!
Until such time as consciousness expands among mankind to a point where warfare is eliminated among nations, where crime is a truly exceptional event, and where civic-mindedness and care for the planet and each other are the rule, I'm guessing we'll need government. It's less about "learned belief systems" and more about how people really act.
Forget all your Utopian dreams about consciousness. It comes down to "money". As I said before even if income taxes were raised to the 90% level we could not pay for the 800% deficit in current revenues. You do not need to be Oprah to figure that out! Just how do people really act? You mean voting? Just where do you learn to trust government to take care of you? That is the "learned belief system" I speak of and its being taught every day in every Public school in America. Who teaches the value of less government other than the US Constitution?
This was passed by the congress and the states in the approved manner in 1913. The language is pretty explicit. I'm not a constitutional scholar, but "Congress shall have power to lay and collect taxes on incomes" seems to have little scope for interpretation.
I am not arguing the 16th Amendment exists I am saying it is un-Constitutional for all the reasons I stated prior. When I speak of un-Constitutional I am referring to the original US Constitution, in its "original" form and not the more modern versions and Amendments of the Constitution as interpreted and manipulated by political and monetary monopolies. The 18th Amendment is a great example of an Amendment that did not work and was repealed, so there is precedence to repeal an Amendment that failed. I see the 16th Amendment as a failure as it no longer has any fiscal viability, otherwise the US PUBLIC DEBT would not be over $13TRIL and spending near 100% of GDP.
Then again there is a matter of interpretation. Here is one of the definitions that outlaws "involuntary servitude" under the 13th Amendment.
Definitions of conditions addressed by the Thirteenth Amendment
Peonage
Refers to a person in "debt servitude," or involuntary servitude tied to the payment of a debt. Compulsion to servitude includes the use of force, the threat of force, or the threat of legal coercion to compel a person to work against his or her will.
Since the US government has been in debt since 1836 we are all in "debt servitude" tied to the payment of a debt, the US PUBLIC DEBT. Are we not threatened with force and/or legal coercion if we refuse to pay taxes? The USD is "debt based".
The key words are "permanent" and "peacetime". Prior to the 16th Amendment income tax was only collected to repay the costs of a war then repealed. The first 126 years of America's history had no permanent income tax. In 1894 there was the first peacetime income tax passed under a "tariff act" called Wilson-Gorman, but in truth was just the bankers getting their "shoe-in-the-door" due to bank failures during the Panic of 1893. After all if the US Treasury only had excise and tariff revenues then how could banks get bailed out? Income tax is a conduit to transfer wealth to banks. What exactly do income taxes repay now?
In 1895 the Supreme Court ruled income taxes from certain sources un-Constitutional, so thereby it was politically impractical to tax wages and not tax income from real property or interest. Income tax was originally held as un-Constitutional by the US Supreme Court.
Income taxes were made permanent the same year the US FED came into existence, just in time for WW1 and the Great Depression. Since then government has continued to grow into the exponential debt based government we have today.
As for taxes not being voluntary: of course they aren't. No taxes are.
If you would have read what I posted more closely I said "reporting", not taxes. There is a difference.
As for violations of civil rights - which ones would those be? Assertion is not a compelling argument to me.
Do I not have a right to not be discriminated against? Then why is it income from life insurance is not taxable? Is that not a "gain" just like a gain from selling stock at a profit or working 80 hours a week? Scholarships are not taxable. Then the myriad of tax credits for child care, for the blind, for the elderly. Where is the tax credit for the male Caucasian who was responsible enough to not be on welfare his whole life? Who paid all his bills on time? Who started numerous businesses that employed other Americans? Who obeyed all the laws? Where's that tax credit? I see no difference between tax law discrimination and discriminating against race, sex, handicapped or elderly. Damages exist both monetary and emotional. There are many ways government can discriminate and even though there are laws against such discrimination they still exist, but there are no laws against tax discrimination. The last time Congress even attempted to right those wrongs was the introduction of a Bill entitled the TAX SIMPLIFICATION ACT Of 2007, which was to repeal the entire IRS Code and replace it with a flat tax. Hummmm ... what ever happened to that Bill? It probably went the way of this ACT ... When I was working at the IRS Congress passed the PAPER REDUCTION ACT 1980, something we all openly laughed about at the office and of course it was yet another useless tax law that actually did the reverse.
Then there is the civil rights of innocent foreigners who have been bombed to the "stone age" in Vietnam and Afghanistan and Iraq. None of those wars did Congress ever debate or make a formal declaration of War, yet my tax dollars were confiscated without my vote or permission to be used in the execution of millions of innocent people who's only crime was not being American and Democratic in the case of Vietnamese and in the case of Iraq and Afghanistan add in the oil and gas factor. That is the very definition of "taxation without representation" in my book, whereby government does not represent my voice. In fact not even Obama supporters have been represented as Obama is still in the Middle East and in fact just put "Betrayus" Petraeus in charge of the US Military. Obama is now BUSH 3! In fact Obama is outspending Bush 1 and 2 on Defense Vendors.
Once again ... I go back to my original post on this thread. Someone here please convince me there are "real" benefits to paying income tax. If there are so far Dave hasn't convinced me and neither has anyone else.
What exactly is your point Dave? You keep saying you would love to not have to pay income tax. And ... so you agree then? In 2011 you are about to pay a lot more income taxes on your day trading capital gains. Who takes all the risk when you trade?
Unlike Bill, if you are an American citizen then you cannot escape paying taxes by moving to the Bahamas. So much for the Land of the Free and the Home of the Brave. Maybe we should have stayed under British Rule and never fought for Independence, because we certainly have not been freed from "taxation without representation". Its alive and well!!! If anything Americans are about to be even more tax oppressed than ever. I ask again ... for what reason? What fiscal solvency will come of it? Or is it yet more "wealth transfer" from those who spend their lives producing wealth to those who do not.
Re: ABOLISH INCOME TAX
Oh Kaimu, you really did miss what I was asking. As I said several times, I'm neither for nor against income taxes. You didn't get my point because I wasn't making one! I just wanted to understand why YOU focused on income tax. I'm coming from a place of not knowing why one tax is somehow worse than another. That's it, end of story. Other folks got it, and came up with some pretty good concepts as to why (say) a VAT is better, etc. I found that persuasive.
And now you too came up with some good points as to why income tax is not such a great idea. That's all good stuff.
But then you said, "When I speak of un-Constitutional I am referring to the original US Constitution, in its "original" form and not the more modern versions and Amendments of the Constitution as interpreted and manipulated by political and monetary monopolies."
Kaimu, as you well know the original constitution has a method for amendment. Logically speaking, any amendment to the constitution thus creates something that is now de jure constitutional. Even prohibition: de jure constitutional. A bad idea, as you point out, and repealed, as you point out. But during the period it was in force, it was CONSTITUTIONAL. And the 16th amendment is very straightforward. It's one sentence. I don't see that it has been manipulated or interpreted. Thus I feel you are really just dead flat wrong when you say income taxes are unconstitutional.
The income tax might be a bad idea (and I'm beginning to understand why now), or poorly implemented, or unfairly specified to benefit rich people and special interests, but they are not unconstitutional. Neither is the death penalty, or abortion, and nor was slavery - until the constitution was amended.
In my opinion, you might want to stick to "the income tax is a bad thing" and go from there. I feel your "unconstitutional" argument simply distracts from an otherwise interesting point.
Holiday Morning Coffee: Bad Romance
http://ronsen.blogspot.com/2010/07/holiday-morning...
-The Charts
-The answer to the question about who is the only one who looks consistently good in a half-shirt (photo)
-Social mood in video?
The holiday medical marathon is ovah...
Re: For the past four weeks, have been watching Prices, relative
baz22,
Funny! Well, thanks for the link — I found it interesting.
"Money has to flow somewhere, it cannot remain stagnant..the Players won't allow that to happen.."
I'm sure that is true of the Players, but in such troubled times it is less likely to be traveling as much for the average American (probably universal). The US consumer has been credited with 70% of our national economic growth and much of the global — without the inclination or ability to borrow we are entering, IMO, a massive change of habits.
The macro has its effect on us and we have an effect on the macro.
I'm not much of a trader. For most of my life I simply was too busy with my family and my one-man graphics business. Most of my jobs had short deadlines and I simply bought blue chip stocks, held them until they went up 20% and bought another which was down.
I avoided most of the tech run-up and after deciding I could no longer pick individual stocks (those with dividends and real profits were going no where, I put everything in mutual funds which plunge 30% in 3 months in 2000 to 2001.
My first day-trading was a lucky break — Krispy Kreme (KKD) which netted enough to cover my prior loss and then some. Too time consuming and stressful for my taste though.
I guess I'm a "swing trader" (I always liked the music).
I'm sure the "Big Boys" (internationals) are making profits, but in D.C. where small businesses like mine was are an unknown. They talk tax breaks and tax credits for hiring. Well, have a news flash for them... Tax breaks and credits are ONLY meaningful if you are making a profit. Since they get paid — and automatic raises — they can't relate.
My trades have been mostly in bonds — mutual funds, ETFs and zero coupons. I am watching the macro moves and waiting for a rate increase, not just talk to go to cash once again or selective companies like those Bill just highlighted when they look cheap once more.
Best wishes.
Re: ABOLISH INCOME TAX
This is an interesting mental exercise, but I have read that Peter Schiff's father is serving time in prison for attempting to buck the tax system.
The same year that our T-Sec, Little Timmy, made a small $30,000 "honest mistake" on his income tax — I had to file a return to prove I didn't need to file that year. It ain't what you know, it's who you know.
I see the US Tax Code as a metaphor for everything governmental — purposely made complex, confusing and overwhelming in order to be able to be interpreted as the situation presents itself.
General George Marshall demanded a one-sided, one sheet report on WW2 daily.
If a war involving 16 million US troops can be done thusly, so could a peace-time tax system.
Re: US's export to the world - regulatory hurdles
Les,
The Times article, like so many others, skips to the result and ignores the cause and process.
I live in Rockford — formerly a center of machine tools, furniture manufacturing, fasteners, aero-space suppliers and other light and heavy industry. We were a large part of the "Arsenal of Democracy" which won WW2.
Though I've never had a class in economics and didn't finish college, it was obvious to me that NAFTA was going far beyond "only the low-end" job losses.
For over 20 years we've been selling our best jobs to the lowest bidders. The "retraining" talked about was mostly in computers — a very low labor intensive category! DUH!
So far the wisdom of Congress has saved a lot of jobs. Unfortunately they are all those of the very people who brought on the latest crisis — the too big to fail and now even bigger BANKERS!
When we are attacked next time — put the bankers and lawmakers in the front line. (Then count the number of holes in both the front and the back.)
Re: ABOLISH INCOME TAX
The argument about abolishing taxes is a futile exercise. One way or the other households always are forced to pay to support governmental services and excesses.
Nominal interest rates which permit cheap governmental borrowing is one such method. Taxes is another. Conscripted servies, e.g., a draft, is also a method.
The fairness of the distribution of the burden of supporting government and the justness of the governmental expenditures are always subjects of dispute. Almost everybody has a complaint. I came of age at a time when young men were drafted into military service and provided with little more than bare subsistence in exchange for their lives.
It always appears that the burdens of supporting government are unjustly distributed, not just in the US, but in every country. It also appears that some governmental services are excessive, corrupt, and unjustly enrich the elite or unwisely protect the poor, not just in the US, but in every country. That is the way it is. That is the way it has always been. That is the way it will always be. At this point in history the system is much less harsh than it has been in the past. I hope it remains that way.
Re: ABOLISH INCOME TAX
I am certainly not a tax attorney myself. I have a question however; if the jury of its own volition asks to see the law making individual income tax enforcible and the judge does not or cannot provide it, then how would that sit with a jury...would this one breach of trust be sufficient to allow an acquittal?
I am asking the question because I would want to see this law in black and white before I convicted a person and not just fold to peer pressure or a world view that "everyone knows is true."
EDit: Do we think as a society that our government would incarcerate and/or hold in stasis for long periods people who have the law on their side...?
'Double Dip' Ahead? Contrary View…
¹²Clarity, Conviction, Consensus
By Barry Ritholtz | 1 July 2010
The theme I have been discussing lately are the 3 C's: Clarity, Conviction & Consensus:
1) Clarity: Right now, there is none. By our metrics, we are not at a major bottom. Nor can we say that the data supports the argument that we are at or near a top. Indeed, we are now more than 15% away from recent highs.
Nor are we in any sort of trend. There is no clear momentum in any direction. And with the prior trading range of SPX 1041 to 1170 now decisively broken, the most we can say is that we might be in a new trading range, say from 975 - 1040.
2) Conviction: The street fight between bulls and bears is notable for the lack of real conviction amongst the players. The bears have had the upper hand for 2 months, yet we don't see the shorts pressing their bets.
The bulls argue that earnings are good, companies have clean balance sheets, and growth is supposed to slow after the initial post recession surge. Yet they don't seem to back up their arguments with cold hard cash. Some Value guys argue stocks are cheap, but they recall getting burned in 2008 the last time we saw that. They seem to be sitting pat.
Yes, its the Summer, and trading should slow down— but the abysmal volume tells us there is little institutional interest in making any commitments to equities and even less enthusiasm from Main Street.
3) Consensus: I cannot recall the last time a) so many people were projecting a recession; b) the crowd got it right. There seems to be a consensus that a 'double dip' is 'likely'. Most everyone is arguing that ECRI's weekly leading index supports a double dip. Everyone, that is, except for ECRI themselves.
The recessionistas— Hussman and others— argue from a sample set of 7 recessions, and while I do not disagree with using historical data, we are constrained by having a mere century's worth. Its better than nothing, but only marginally so. The worst thing about being mortal is that we won't be around 1,000 years from now. By then, we will have a sufficient data set to draw better supported conclusions as to what, if anything, historical data projects about markets and the economy.
Until then, exercise, watch your cholesterol, and wait for more clarity.
Re: ABOLISH INCOME TAX
lessmore,
"I came of age at a time when young men were drafted into military service and provided with little more than bare subsistence in exchange for their lives."
One of my sons recently asked if I remembered what I was paid in the army. I do. It was $78 per month in 1959. But cigarettes were $0.17 per pack at the PX.
That led to my recollection (from reading) there were "Buck sergeants" ($30 per month) in WW1 and "Buck Privates" in WW2 — now we have Dollar General.
Definitely a sign of hyperinflation. They humor me.
Sorry ;-)
A little distraction
For $194,000; one can now fly with the birds.
http://presstv.com/detail.aspx?id=132926§ionid...
Re: A little distraction
Back to the Future.
I first saw a similar vehicle in the 1950s on the cover of Popular Science or Popular Mechanics. I think it was called AeroCar.
Edit: I was off a bit. It was 1949.
http://www.aerocar.com/
Tough treatment
Chinese court sentences US geologist to 8 years
BEIJING (AP) -- An American geologist held and tortured by China's state security agents was sentenced to eight years in prison Monday for gathering data on the Chinese oil industry in a case that highlights the government's use of vague secrets laws to restrict business information.
http://tiny.cc/usiu8
Tough treatment
Chinese court sentences US geologist to 8 years
BEIJING (AP) -- An American geologist held and tortured by China's state security agents was sentenced to eight years in prison Monday for gathering data on the Chinese oil industry in a case that highlights the government's use of vague secrets laws to restrict business information.
http://tiny.cc/usiu8
I wonder how they would deal with BP.
Re: ABOLISH INCOME TAX
davefairtex -
This is like tying your tail to kaimu's with some string and tossing you both over a clothes line. Income tax debate is simple: It's far too complex and burdensome to society and no longer covers even a small fraction of the U.S. deficit. Those are FACTS. What we have here is an overregulated and corrupt system which will resolve when the U.S. transitions to full-on empire with central control and reform as found with the likes of Augustus, or not, and the U.S. transitions into CHAOS and an ill-advised war with China while expanding its will over the Middle East oil interests. If we go the Augustus route, the two-party system will morph into one under a singular leadership whose popular reforms will replace the income tax, healthcare, and oil dependence with an iron fisted NEW WORLD order. A Putin-like character but with the republic's former glory and U.S. Constitution in hand. Hail! The Emperor cometh ...
It's bigger than the debate on the merits of a VAT over income and all the other thousands of taxes imposed on us now. Severe deflation will solve all of it. We're already down the rabbit hole, my friend.
Cheers.
Re: ABOLISH INCOME TAX
Dr S - certainly, you describe one possible future. But the outcome is by no means certain. And if we don't end up playing minor parts in a bad Star Trek episode, the tax discussion still has merit. In my opinion, of course. :)
For the record I'm in full agreement that all the taxes put together don't cover the current debt. As you say, that's just fact. I also think under the covers we already have a one-party system on core issues, it just masquerades as a two-party system using time tested crowd-distractors like abortion and gay marriage.
But none of this was really the subject at hand. Not every discussion needs to go immediately to some sort of dramatic endpoint as though it were already an established conclusion, does it?
Whose Market is it, anyway?
I wasn't sure whether to title this post like I did, or maybe "Know Your Enemy!" is more apropo...
Canadian markets were open today, during the U.S. holiday.
Volume during the last 3 U.S. holidays:
Jan 18 63.2M
May 30 58.7M
Jul 5 54.3M
Average daily volume during the last 200 days:
191.0M
Goes along with my belief that ALL markets (currency, domestic bourses, gold, oil, bonds, etc) are simply the playthings of ... you know who ... and that we're all just along for the ride.
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Dr.,
You've pretty well lumped all my worst scenarios into one nightmare posting. It seems we're well on the way and gaining momentum.
Consumer Deleveraging?
I think I've been digesting too much information the last few years. I thought the U.S. consumer was deleveraging. Did I miss something earlier this year? Why was there an off-the-charts 45% increase in outstanding consumer(individual) loans between Feb 2010 and April 2010? Was this a rush to capitalize on historically low interest rates before anticipated Fed rate hikes? There was quite a lot of noise about that possibility earlier this year but, of course, that's all dissipated now. What gives with this chart?
see attached chart.
Re: ABOLISH INCOME TAX
davefairtex -
"Not every discussion needs to go immediately to some sort of dramatic endpoint as though it were already an established conclusion, does it?"
Well, history provides some established conclusions, does it not? Or is it different this time around? I find debate of the merits of a VAT over the current uncontained obscene income tax code to be myopic. Neither will fix the trillions in debt and the runaway spending of politicians who retain power in the global fiat money game. Tax reform will ONLY arrive with the first charismatic general who uses the 11 carrier strike groups to persuade the U.S. Congress to act. Do you really believe some U.S. Rep. is going to get a VAT tax bill passed or repeal the income tax? This ain't Frank Capra's 'Mr. Smith Goes To Washington' humble pie reality show. Representation of the people's interests is gone, gone, gone. Really gone. Have you met any Capitol Hill lobbyists? Not a nice bunch. In fact, they're lowlife cockroaches on the Capitol's ass and their influence has usurped our representation. Full Stop. Kaimu shows us the results with his budget breakdowns. Why mince words? If you're losing CONFIDENCE, I rest my case.
Re: ABOLISH INCOME TAX
Dr S. - ok, I was wrong. You DO think discussions should go directly to your personal endgame scenario without any passing GO (or collecting $200). :)
Like I said, it could happen. History provides case studies of what has gone before and what could be in store for us, but it does not confine us to specific endgames, it only presents possibilities of what might be. Your case is possible, yet by no means certain. Because of this uncertainty, I feel discussions along the way are not myopic. I am interested in defining a world that I'd like to create regardless of the near-term political outcome in the US.
To create a new world, we first have to imagine what it looks like. Bill does this constantly, by reminding us what "social equity" means and why it's something we sorely need. Another way of saying that is, if I were the charismatic General, what system would I put in place? As I recall, I don't remember proposing any particular methodology of implementing a VAT - or repealing the income tax for that matter - just a discussion of which tax seems better for the country. You're the one who created the straw man Frank Capra and then assigned his naive thought process to me. I think they call that a "straw man fallacy."
Asia up, European auto's strong opening...
risk is back. Funny that they wait until the US Casinos are open for business again. Let us see. Dow +49. 4am NY time.
Re: Asia up, European auto's strong opening...
Looks like the old relationships are back too. Euro, Gold, and SPX all up in lock step. Euro especially hitting 1.26. Who knew?
Re: Asia up, European auto's strong opening...
right, I forgot to look there. GBP too. Dow +76 (5:30am). Interesting that the analyst in the following article gives a short term outlook of Euro at $1.27. Not much room to run. But I wonder if this article is a precursor of the spotlight fixing itself on the US, as Europe is scripted as being 'less bad' compared to increasingly pessimistic US numbers.
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB100014240527487046...
British media reporting a winding down of short trades against the sterling as the Coalition Govt. was brought into power.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/newsbysector/ba...
who knows, could turn into bigger bounce than anticipated, what with every blogger and his dog now giving the thumbs down to economic activity.
auto's rallying hard:
http://uk.finance.yahoo.com/q?s=F.MI
http://uk.finance.yahoo.com/q?s=RNO.PA
Dow +95.
Normzyx and Kaimu should take a long hard look at themselves
As Bloomberg writes that:
"Deficits Shrinking Most in Decades as Growth Lets S&P 500 Rally
Rich nations will reduce their primary budget deficits, excluding interest payments, by 1.6 percentage points next year, the most since the Organization for Economic Cooperation and Development began keeping records in 1970...There’s going to be a meaningful deceleration in growth, but it will still be solid"
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-07-05/deficits-...
(sorry, couldn't help myself guys. The Tuesday morning funny pages:)
Cara 100 Ratings Changes
Good morning.
AAPL - PT Raised from $342 to $349 @ Kaufman Bros. Buy
AMAT - Applied Materials downgraded to Neutral from Overweight at Piper Jaffray.
Piper downgraded Applied Materials citing concerns around the company's solar business and lowered its target for shares to $14 from $18.50.
BUCY - Bucyrus initiated with an Outperform at Macquarie
DB - Deutsche Bank downgraded to Underweight from Neutral at JP Morgan
JOYG - Joy Global initiated with an Outperform at Macquarie
Re: ABOLISH INCOME TAX
"Representation of the people's interests is gone, gone, gone. Really gone."
BINGO!
The original intent was that OUR representatives would act as OUR lobbyists.
We need Constitutional change.
Real term limits for all in congress — to discourage professionals making a lifetime career.
Prevent those in office from gaining benefits better than the "ordinary citizens". We can start with the health care bill.
No formerly elected official allowed to take on a lobbyist role.
I lost all confidence in our government gradually over the last two or three decades as they sold off our best jobs, destroyed the dollar at an increasing rate, and pandered to racial biases for votes.
Re: Normzyx and Kaimu should take a long hard look at themselves
Les,
I guess that must be Michael Bloomberg of NY speaking ;-)
Cara 100 Update
CAT - estimates increased at Goldman through 2012. North American demand should accelerate in the near term. Neutral rating and $70 price target.
JNPR - PT Lowered from $33 to $30 @ RBC. Sector Perform
LLTC - Linear Technology upgraded to Overweight at JP Morgan.
JP Morgan upgraded Linear Technology to Overweight from Neutral on expectations the company will outperform peers during the economic downturn. The firm upped its target for shares to $28 from $27.
NOK - PT Lowered from $14 to $11 @ RBC. Sector Perform
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Re: ABOLISH INCOME TAX
davefairtex -
Okay, forget Frank Capra. There is no way in hell to repeal income tax or pass a VAT for the benefit of the People. The only legislation today is, for instance, a Healthcare Bill so packed with lobbyist influence that We The People have no idea what it holds for the future. No one in Congress even read it. The legislative process is about to give because the current Capitol Hill clown act ramped up the money printing into the trillions and now put the system in jeopardy. The rule of law has become so convoluted that it's all an amoral workaround to impoverish the gullible working class stiff.
Good luck fixin' the economy with a new tax scheme. You just need to extract a few hundred thousand from every man, woman, and child with U.S. legal status after making them productive again ... Got VAT? Under faux-Kenysian demand, there will be little real consumption left to tax, my friend, when deflation grows large. And how are you going to collect a dime premium on the nickel I charge you for an apple? Barter and cash will rule and credit will go away.
Cheers.
Much volume
A lot of GE volume today on news about small business, but only .30 increase. I do not know what to make of this; anyone have an idea about GE or any other stock showing a volume change from normal volume?
Re: ABOLISH INCOME TAX
"Barter and cash will rule and credit will go away."
I believe there are signs of this being on the increase here in Illinois. I might add another feature — crime IS definitely increasing in what were formerly "good" neighborhoods.
Last week we had to forced invasions where armed guys broke in while people were at home, beat and tied them, then made off we new "electronic" (per newspaper). It is suspected the empty boxes for HD TVs may have been an invitation.
I'm beginning to identify with the people of Arizona.
Even post Supreme Court 2nd Amendment decision, as far as I know IL is still the only state without a right-to-carry feature for non-felons. If this keeps up I expect we'll soon see a test by someone who has decided it is more prudent to defend oneself first and defend that basic right if needed.
Re: Much volume
gforce,
I'm not a day trader, but shouldn't today's action be expected after the recent downside rush? My guess (that's all it is) is we'll see a rebound and then selling by the big boys.
From Hussman today: (summarized)
"A week ago, we accumulated enough evidence to conclude that the U.S. economy is most probably headed into a second leg of recession.
"Over the short and intermediate-term, credit crises are invariably deflationary. So despite the huge increase in government obligations during these periods, you generally don't see inflationary pressures in the early years because that supply is eagerly absorbed. Short-term interest rates are pressed near zero, and monetary velocity tends to collapse. Commodities are usually hard hit as well. Over the long-term, massive increases in government liabilities do have inflationary impact."
Tuesday's morning call now posted
Todays' Morning Call, by Geoff Goetz, is now posted. Our apologies for the delay.
Jack