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Bill Cara’s Blog for March 26, 2010 [See post-close report]

Morning Call [7:30am ET] The sell-off in New York from mid-day Thursday is probably significant and may lead to one of those infrequent notable moves in the indexes where a trader’s wealth is added or subtracted, most other days being unremarkable other than for the odd insight gleaned here and there.

A chart of yesterday’s trading in Intel (INTC) could be overlaid the NASDAQ Composite, and Boeing (BA) of the DJIA.

Earlier this morning, forex trading once again assumed control of capital market prices as the US Dollar opened strongly and Asia-Pacific equity markets were down on average about –1.0%. Then the $USD started dropping (from about 82.32 to 82.02) and European equity market indexes lifted (about +0.3% on average at this point in the day), and Crude Oil, Precious Metals, and US equity futures did likewise.

But the $USD trend is still up; so the question is how far north can the $USD drive, taking down equities, Crude Oil, Gold and Silver, and the like, before the inevitable reversal. Time will tell.

Last evening’s post-close report pretty much summed it up:

As we have repeatedly cautioned, a legitimate downswing needs a series of two lower highs and lower lows at a minimum to suggest an interim price peak may have been reached. This can take place in hours or days or weeks, but usually in weeks. Definitive confirmation requires chart support to be violated, Fibonacci levels to fail, and swing lows undercut… Once 1150 on the S&P falls, the market has spoken (with price action) that the uptrend is in jeopardy; there then needs to be a lower high carved out three to six weeks from the initial high, with the intervening low between the two highs meaningfully violated.

This is not a time to buy, sell or short, especially not short. It’s a time to be patient.

Have a good day. It’s Friday, and almost the end of the quarter. I’m quite looking forward to doing the Week In Review (WIR#13).


CTA Trading Desk Post-Close Report

Once again the Bears had the chance to generate some downside momentum and failed; not a dismal failure like so many other squandered opportunities, but when push came to shove, the Bulls put on the goal line stand, preventing their opponents from scoring.

After the sudden downside reversal Thursday, an ideal set-up was there for the Bear’s taking. A failing early morning rally disintegrated as the prior day low is taken out and short-term support at 1165 intra-day was broken. However, sellers could not overwhelm demand at that level, as buyers reappeared, pushing prices back towards the midpoint of the daily range (S&P +0.07%).

It may get a little tricky as the end of the quarter nears. Under-performing managers suffering from performance anxiety may get trigger happy as the calendar flips to March 31.

Unfortunately no new information was gleaned today from the price action; the battle between buyers and sellers drags on for another day.

Have a great weekend.


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GATA: hammering this home

i know im harping on this one but i cant stress this point enough about GATA at the moment:

zero hedge has the full transcript of the email exchange b/w what they call their "deep throat" and the CFTC, it details how a trader claims manipulation by JPM and confirmation of this fact due to "conversations with other traders" and that it was a "well known fact that JPM would take down the market at certain times".

i urge anyone interested in such claims to read the actual emails in ZH's site, it shows not a whistleblower with actual inside information and actual material proof of figures conspiring to manipulate markets, no it simply shows exactly what GATA and many others have said over the years in terms of large shorts having manipulative effects on the market. yes he emailed the CFTC some 5 days before the POG fell on a payroll report... what does this prove exactly? for every time a market timer has made the right call on the movement of gold do we hail them as an insider too?

im sorry to say this is at this point in time nothing but more baseless speculation attempting to convince us that when PM's move down it is the result of manipulation, and when they move up it is the true market. luckily as the deep throat contends, most people know about it, and gold/silver have risen year over year the past 10 years, so how exactly is that manipulation if everyone knows about it and its not actually working longer term?

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/whistleblower-exp...
manipulation-scheme

Cara 100 Ratings Changes

Good morning.

AAPL - William Blair Initiates Coverage with an Outperform.

AAPL - PT Raised from $275 to $300 @ Credit Suisse. Outperform

BBY - Downgraded to Underperform @ FBR. PT = $36

NOK - Upgraded to Overweight @ JP Morgan.

ORCL - PT Raised from $30 to $31 @ Credit Suisse. Outperform

QCOM - JP Morgan Resumes Coverage with an Overweight. PT = $48

QCOM - PT Raised from $40 to $45 @ Credit Suisse. Neutral

RIMM - Upgraded to Overweight @ JP Morgan. PT Raised from $70 to $84

Re: nemo/Vad- This Note's For You: Appendix B to the Tao te

Repost from yesterday, for 2nd

This is one of those academic things that is hard to comment on, because it's a such strange mix of correct and wrong observations and conclusions, combined in such manner that you can't really separate them without ruining whole construct; meanwhile construct dos have ideas that have merits...

Last sentence for instance is undoubtedly a gem (not that it's a big news for anyone who traded more than 10 times). But let's have a look at this: "First, the market provides opportunities less than 15% of the time. Second, even if you’re an unusually gifted investor, you’ll only occasionally be capable of identifying such rare opportunities." This makes little practical sense without identifying time frame. For a day trader for instance, opportunities exist every day. They may be limited to 15% of the time WITHIN that day but that, in turn, has no relation to his next conclusion about necessity to identify and utilize unusually high percentage of those in order to outperform the market.

Here is the thing his theory misses: market spends a lot of time threading water. If you made anything during that period, you have already outperformed it. Market that went from 10,800 to 10.900 and back did nothing over that period of time performance wise; it did a lot however creating opportunities wise. If a trader managed to get 10 points on the way up and 10 points on the way down, he is already ahead. When the market establishes trend, a trader stays ahead by either utilizing movement in the direction of the trend and skipping counter-trend ones, or by playing both. I.E, if market went from 10,000 to 11,000, it did so with let's say 10 upward thrusts 200 points each, and 10 downward ones 100 points each. Get 120 points out of 200 on each leg up and skip legs down - and you will have already outperformed the market. Alternatively, get just 80 out of 200 on the way up and 40 out of 100 on the down - and you again will have outperformed the market - EVEN THOUGH YOU UNDER-PERFORM IT IN EACH DIRECTION! Such is a power of flexibility.

But one must be a trader, not pure academic, in order to get these practical things.

Free housing for unemployed, lower principal for mortgage payers

http://bit.ly/bnxXmQ

"White House plans to announce on Friday that it will require lenders to lower the mortgage payments of some unemployed workers and encourage lenders to eliminate some principal debt of homeowners who owe more than their home is worth, sources familiar with the plan said on Thursday."

He now believes he has a magic wand. "End world hunger" "No more violence" "World peace" will be the next mandates out of the White house. lol.

Re: GATA: hammering this home

"luckily as the deep throat contends, most people know about it, and gold/silver have risen year over year the past 10 years, so how exactly is that manipulation if everyone knows about it and its not actually working longer term?"

Perhaps you should have saved this remark for next week's April Fool's Day! Just because the NY gold cartel allows gold to increase in value YOY does not negate the fact that the gold price is suppressed on a daily if not hourly basis.

Let us just say that I rob you everyday in broad daylight but allow you to keep just enough money for you and your family to survive and accumulate an extra $1 in savings YOY. According to your logic, this is not a crime scene because everyone knows about it and your wealth is still rising YOY.

The only thing more despicable than this is that the police force, i.e. the CFTC, watches me rob you everyday and turns a blind eye to it.

Cheers

JPMorgan, Lehman, UBS Named as Conspirators in Muni Bid-Rigging

No charges yet laid. Perps walk again?

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&si...

Re: nemo/Vad- This Note's For You: Appendix B to the Tao te

At this rate, all you really have to do is cut and paste your replies to my comments, and the book is half done. You can insert my name in small print as co-author- it really doesn't matter, as long as an appropriate percentage of royalties is forwarded ;)

Re: nemo/Vad- This Note's For You: Appendix B to the Tao te

ROTFL :-)

Re: nemo/Vad- This Note's For You: Appendix B to the Tao te

Actually, I am doing just the opposite: copying from the written parts to create replies (very big grin)

Re: nemo/Vad- This Note's For You: Appendix B to the Tao te

My name above yours, then. It would probably take a Chinese name for you to market the book successfully. Even though I know squat about Chuangtse.

Re: GATA: hammering this home

fireworks,

your comparison was at best an incomplete metaphor.

implicit to any sort of manipulation is the idea that something is being moved in a way it wouldnt normally go at a given point in time.

because one can long or short the market, and because the allegations of manipulation were both well known and long standing, and because metals have on balance risen the past decade, i fail to see exactly how unusual price action after the release of the payrolls report constitutes manipulation by 1 specific party.

look at the price action of the PM's after each payroll report for the past few years and you will not see much of a patten.

gold pundits have been calling for a collapse of the COMEX for over a year, with each pivotal month approaching the "breaking point" or where the US treasury will default. the Jim Willies, and that pointless LEAP 2010 whatever they are who's predictions for the past few years have been by and large wrong on this account.

one day who knows these events may come to fruition, and they will surely be the first to remind us how they called it. too bad you would have lost the farm trying to follow their bets over the years.

once again it comes back to a very basic idea:

a whistle blower has inside information of a pivotal nature, including names and or direct evidence of concerted fraud. the person in GATA's case was not new, nor did they provide any direct evidence, they simply pointed to market action with unsubstantiated claims of manipulation.

by evidence we mean just that: evidence. its simple and has yet to be given to us.

GATA, bless your hearts for your efforts and you may be proven right one day, but the approach and the postulates continue to be nothing more than unsupported conjecture made all the more uncredible by your false claims to hard evidence.

Cara 100 Update (Final)

BBY - PT Raised from $44 to $47 @ Wedbush Morgan. Neutral

BBY - target, estimate increased at Barclays. BBY price target raised by a dollar to $48 after posting solid 4Q10 results. 2011 EPS estimate lifted to $3.54. Maintain Overweight rating.

BBY - estimates, target boosted at Government Sachs. BBY estimates were raised through 2011. Company should continue to benefit from higher TV sales. Buy rating and new $49 price target.

ORCL - PT Raised from $29 to $30 @ Jefferies. Buy

ORCL - estimates, target raised at Government Sachs. Shares of ORCL now seen reaching $32. Estimates also boosted, as the company should see higher margins following the Sun acquisition. Buy rating.

QCOM - estimates, target boosted at UBS. QCOM estimates were increased through 2011. Company boosted guidance, because of strength in licensing and its chipset business. Buy rating and new $50 price target.

QCOM - Downgraded at Calyon from Outperform to Underperform. $44 price target.

Nothing I can do about GATA, but WHAT are the SIGNALS?

In the Murphy testimony, he said there were signals that the traders knew that JP Morgan would send and then all the traders would pile on with JPM driving the metal down.

Anyone know what the "signal" that traders know are?

PS: My goal is to make money. I know I don't, won't and can't control the market, but if I knew the signals, maybe it would improve my odds.

My guess its its the big 20 ton dump routine at or after what looks like a top? But to be honest, I'm pretty clueless with "hints" that others pick up on. You people can sit here and argue paragraph after paragraph, so eloquently all you want, but it doesn't make a bit of difference if you lose all your money because they out manipulated you.

Re: Nothin I can do about GATA, but WHAT are the SIGNALs?

Cheapy,

that's the thing... a lot of questions here:
- who are those mysterious traders who somehow managed to get on JPM good side to such degree that JPM made them its favorite charity?
- why would JPM want to signal their intentions to anyone, undermining their own play by letting them frontrun it?
- who ever heard of large market entity making their intentions known to anyone outside of those that must know it in order to execute it?
- why would those traders share this license to print money with anyone?
- how such magic money-making machine could stay under the radar if it were known to more than two, ok five people?

Etc... Color me skeptical

Re: Nothin I can do about GATA, but WHAT are the SIGNALs?

"- who ever heard of large market entity making their intentions known to anyone outside of those that must know it in order to execute it?"

Case in point: "...Like the legendary Babe Ruth brazenly standing at home plate and pointing his bat to the exact spot on the outfield fence over which he intended to launch the pitched baseball, the Bank of England (BoE) also “called the wall” prior to the actual gold bombing. As in the past, this latest gold bombing was scheduled in advance and crafty public relations folk ensured that there would be maximum knowledge of the aggressive raid about to be launched. Timeless principles of information warfare handed down from the legendary Chinese strategist Sun Tsu were fully employed pre-raid to create the maximum amount of confusion and fear for the BoE’s old enemy, the free gold market."

http://www.zealllc.com/2001/boebomb.htm

Re: Nothin I can do about GATA, but WHAT are the SIGNALs?

Vad, If I was to guess, it would be a TECHNICAL signal, not an email to "special traders", unless it was some sort of "prediction" which traders would take as a signal.

Technical signals I might guess at would be: The big volume dump at the top (20 tons at 1120's), or at a double top, or at a resistance line, or at a major MA, or perhaps letting it run up to one just before some big number coming out.

I'm just trying to guess it. If other traders could "pick up on it", we should be able to figure it out as well, I would think.

I just don't want to be out on the tracks when the bullet train comes through, LOL.

Re: Nothin I can do about GATA, but WHAT are the SIGNALs?

I see the signals and gold/silver will plunge in about 8 minutes at the London fix :)

Re: Nothin I can do about GATA, but WHAT are the SIGNALs?

Cheapy,

of course, that's how I understand it. But if the implication is it was an agreed signal, all my questions stand; and if it was just something traders figured out, trade originator would have immediately noticed that he is being front-run, and would have immediately taken measures to prevent it. But then, it's not a realm of manipulation already, it's just normal trading where every party tries to figure out what the rest, especially big players are doing.

Manipulator allowing others to figure out his manipulation to such degree wouldn't stay in business for too long.

bulkers ....

red-headed step child

Re: Nothin I can do about GATA, but WHAT are the SIGNALs?

When the manipulator can DUMP 20 tons at a time, and has infinitely DEEP pockets backed by the Fed with digital money and metal when needed, maybe traders will follow their lead or find themselves "out on the tracks" and be run the hell over...

Just thinking aloud. I really don't know anything, but I take a lot of risk on it all the time, so it behooves me to at least try to figure out if its true, and what the signals might be.

What would make the manipulation work, IMO would be the traders piling on for the ride down on the panic.

SPX H&S ?

SPX working on a small H&S with a target around 1150.

http://tinyurl.com/ygop6lu

Re: Nothin I can do about GATA, but WHAT are the SIGNALs?

"What would make the manipulation work, IMO would be the traders piling on for the ride down on the panic."

Only if they pile up AFTER manipulator took his position, thus moving the price for him. However if it was "well known fact that JPM would take down the market at certain times", then they would have been positioning BEFORE he did that, thus THEY would profit from him killing the price, not the other way around.

Re: Nothin I can do about GATA, but WHAT are the SIGNALs?

Vad,

He said it was based on a signal or signals from JPM.

I'm just trying to guess what the signals might be.

Are you telling me that you don't think JPM was or is manipulating the gold price, and that you think they aren't sending some kind of signal to the traders to get them to help it work?

Maybe the answer is in the the Maguire tapes or text...

Meanwhile, while diverted here I've missed a big opportunity. I had a huge position in DGP bought on this am's panic and sold way too early again. I hate my life when I keep making the same mistakes like that. I don't even have a clue why it is rising. I feel totally in the dark on an ongoing basis.

Re: Nothin I can do about GATA, but WHAT are the SIGNALs?

ALOHA!!

Vad-"- who ever heard of large market entity making their intentions known to anyone outside of those that must know it in order to execute it?"

You mean like the IMF or BOE announcing in the media they are selling gold? They should announce they are "buying" gold then sell!

Then let us not forget the entire Blanchard Coin lawsuit against JPM and Barrick Gold that was thrown out of court right after discovery was granted due to JPM "acting" as an agent for the US FED, which was immune from prosecution on National Security grounds.

Does the FOMC meeting transcripts count for proof of large scale price manipulations? Currency intervention with splitting profits and all are well documented there.

I did a study of POG Friday, not TGIF Friday, and I found that the POG stayed flat or went down on COMEX Fridays 85% of the time over a two year period. I posted that here and at GATA over a year ago. Kind of an unusually high occurrence in a free market.

Re: Nothin I can do about GATA, but WHAT are the SIGNALs?

The standards posited by dr.cosa and the depth of introspection developing around this issue would not have happened six years ago when I started this blog, so this is a milestone that pleases me greatly.

The Federal Reserve Bank of New York, the Bank of England and Bank of Canada have gold trading operations. Trades are done, not for profit, but for policy purposes. These trades are being executed by agents, namely the brokers like JP Morgan. The conflict of interest I write about is that a JPM would handle a central bank order different from a private client order. In the latter case, the JPM traders would trade against the order flow, possibly using sales traders and research to enhance volatility, thereby increasing commission income. But JP Morgan traders would never trade against the order flow of a central bank. Instead, their proprietary traders would support the trades of these central banks, taking on some degree of risk. However, if, by using this knowledge, you know the direction of the Dollar or Gold trend, you cannot lose. Armed with that knowledge, very few of us would lose. In fact, Goldman Sachs, being one of the primary agents of central banks, like JP Morgan and Barclays, loses one day in 100, which, in a fair market, is impossible. Trading principal, then, these banks are using inside knowledge to essentially steal from the public, and they are allowed to get away with it because (i) they are helping the central bankers manage policy, and (ii) they do take on some risk when they trade as principal.

The system doesn't work because (i) it depends on the level of altruism of the central bankers' agents, and as we know, they are making mega billions to distribute among a very few people, and (ii) we are unhappy with our gains because others are using inside knowledge against us.

I have argued for no hand-outs; just make the price discovery mechanisms of the capital market system fair to all participants. Is it really that difficult to see? A principal should never be allowed to operate in the same market (and in fact the same transaction) as agent, adviser, insurer, self-regulated entity, custodian, and lender. In no other aspect of our society is this permitted, and rightly so.

Re: Nothin I can do about GATA, but WHAT are the SIGNALs?

"Are you telling me that you don't think JPM was or is manipulating the gold price, and that you think they aren't sending some kind of signal to the traders to get them to help it work?"

I have no idea whether JPM manipulates gold or not. But the part about them signalling to other traders makes no sense.

GATA, signals and G-S

Perhaps the most salient point in Bill's comment above:

"In fact, Goldman Sachs, being one of the primary agents of central banks, like JP Morgan and Barclays, loses one day in 100, which, in a fair market, is impossible"

Proof in absence of fact that the market is cleverly manipulated. And as Bill Murphy said, to the effect, the gold traders were selling short, naked short !

Re: Nothin I can do about GATA, but WHAT are the SIGNALs?

Thanks, Bill

Doing the "Work of God" as Blankfien said.

When you have the ARC OF THE COVENANT with you (ie at the behest of the Fed and with infinite money or gold to back your trade), there is nothing going to prevent you from winning.

Ok, 99 out of 100 times...

I just want to be on THAT side, LOL. Sad to say. But if the game is rigged, better to play on the side rigging it or at least get out of their way if you want to SURVIVE!

Re: Nothin I can do about GATA, but WHAT are the SIGNALs?

Bill, and everyone following this board,

thank you for encouraging this line of discussion, and others of similar notoriety.

the case for gold is made stronger by debate and honest discourse, and exposing our own weaknesses before our opponents do.

Re: Nothin I can do about GATA, but WHAT are the SIGNALs?

"But the part about them signalling to other traders makes no sense."

If there really is a cartel, and not JPM acting alone, it makes perfect sense.

In Wyckoff theory there is the idea of the CM or "composite man", and that the market makers do signal each other through the tape via price & volume action. Nothing new under the sun thusly.

Re: Nothin I can do about GATA, but WHAT are the SIGNALs?

Define "other traders" then. Original item was not implying that they were a part of manipulating entity, but rather outside party benefiting from manipulation. Thus my remark about this making no sense applies - they would be competitors, and what manipulator would want to signal intention to them enabling them to frontrun manipulator? And, if they are part of conspiracy, they are not really "other traders", are they.

Don't Get Caught Short

That's what I keep telling myself this morning to resist the urge to short anything. Jobs numbers are due out next Friday and I highly doubt they will be bad.

By the way, have any of you read articles by James Kostohryz at Minyanville? I really like his articles. Here is another interesting one by him:
http://www.minyanville.com/businessmarkets/article...

His thinking runs counter what most people in the markets are thinking so I always like to hear his point of view.

Groundhog Day

http://finviz.com./

"Nice recovery in the VIX..."

VAD, ARE WE THERE YET ? :)

Just asking if you think the BEARS are soon taking over here, just curious :))

Precther - Bloomberg

http://tinyurl.com/yl3j6jm

H&S neckline and all fib fans on previous chart pierced.
To know next direction, monitor PPT orders for coffee and doughnuts.

Today

starting long in AUY....

Re: VAD, ARE WE THERE YET ? :)

Not yet, but closer to it than they've been in a year. Not by technicals, we've seen bigger selling at various points... but there is some ferocious feel to the selling bouts over last couple days that I haven't seen in quite a while.

Re: VAD, ARE WE THERE YET ? :)

I'd argue the selling in January/February was far worse

Re: Don't Get Caught Short

Okun hokum...

The conclusions from this very detailed, technically oriented report presents some very difficult problems for me.

First it assumes the government data is valid. I don't trust any government data of any kind. Things like CPI housing reported as "owner equivalent rent", the "birth/death index", BLS definition of what is a job, and seasonal adjustments are some specifics which are used to work visual miracles.

Another is a problem of job quality. Several states are finally attacking the pension problem by reducing benefits for new employees. While I see this as long over due it will put state employees in the same boat as so many others who formerly had higher paying jobs with better benefits.

My conclusion therefore is that while the government can report any employment growth number they choose, the employees will be receiving less than the historical norm and the "economic recovery" will not be the same quality as in the past.

Your aversion to shorting is,IMO, still valid however because the market will likely react to the spin — not the reality.

Parallel Universe - can be seen NOW!

... because things like ABIO (ARCA Biopharma) do not really exist in this one, Hurry and see it before the portal to another dimension closes. The best view is on daily chart

GCI Calls

Bought a few $16 April calls at $1.05 on GCI. Earnings are due out 5 days before options expiration and I think they easily beat estimates. Short interest is over 15% on this one...

GCI Calls

Bought a few $16 April calls at $1.05 on GCI. Earnings are due out 5 days before options expiration and I think they easily beat estimates. Short interest is over 15% on this one...

Re: Parallel Universe - can be seen NOW!

Does this ( ABIO ) remind you of another point in time... ?.. !!! ( Of course, Time is relevant in these warps !! ).

Re: Parallel Universe - can be seen NOW!

baz, this is chrono-synclastic infundibulum, if I've ever seen one

Re: Parallel Universe - can be seen NOW!

I know just the person to help with the computations.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jTmXHvGZiSY

My GDX big limit buy order went through at below 43 in AM.

SLV at 16.3 yesterday before close. Anyone else buying PM lately?

Initially I was going for wait for gold to get closer to $1000 as per Bill's insights.

However, after seeing that the latest dollar spike is not as damaging to PM as I thought it would be, as I wrote about it last night, I went ahead.

Bill Murphy of GATA speaks to CFTC now on YouTube

His testimony:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9wIMpe9SjfQ

Talks about Deep Throat to CFTC man with strange hair here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9bU0r6JP4s

busting blocks up

on gold sells... getting interesting....

cnbc.. " notices of foreclosures are slowing "

In February, new ' Notices of Default ' outpaced home sales by 10%....hmmmm

Re: busting blocks up

Yap, silver is following but miners slow to catch up. they were held hostage by the dollar but it's changing.

Re: Don't Get Caught Short

I can't trade/invest on my opinions of whether reports are bogus, only what i see.

And cutting pension benefits is long overdue. It's completely unsustainable. Most people in the "private" markets have lost jobs, had pay freezes or cuts, and had their 401k matches dropped so people with public jobs should expect the same. And that's beside the fact that these pensions are absolutely ridiculous. There are some people in government in my area in southern CA that are getting pensions of over $200k per year. That's disgusting.

IMF Refuses To Sell Its Gold

What happened to the IMF's desire to sell their gold in order to help the impoverished countries in Africa...

It turns out that Eric Sprott has attempted to purchase gold from the IMF, according to information provided to Kitco by Frank Holmes, CEO of US Global Investors. "I just spoke with Eric Sprott, who bid to buy [the IMF's remaining gold on the block] and they refuse to sell it."

http://tinyurl.com/y9bx69n

Re: IMF Refuses To Sell Its Gold

Can we assume that the IMF (the central bankers' central bank) and any central bank would prefer or do not want the physical to be held by the private sector on account of the fact that would limit their policy management tools in the future? The investment banks would also not want investors to buy-and-hold as that hoarding would remove their ability to borrow/lend and make income from it, and to the extent that gold bullion is hoarded by the private sector that increases the risks to the bankers and commercials who are or want to go short in the contracts market.

Re: IMF Refuses To Sell Its Gold

Bill, more and more people I talk with, bring up the ' confiscation of gold ' aspect... Could it be the public is finally realizing that all curriencies are just pieces of paper, and gold traded equities may be the last fortress against ' Big Brother ' ?

LYM

Well, Kaimu do you sell now or hold on for the 'wild ride'? LYM@0.23 +35.29% presently.

Re: IMF Refuses To Sell Its Gold

Good points Bill. I can only speculate that the supposed IMF gold has been simultaneously claimed by multiple central banks and even the gold ETF. Now that we have a bid from outside the ring of central bankers, suddenly its not for sale? This chain of events definitely puts suspicions on the existence of all physical gold in the IMF inventory.

Copper ETF?

Is there a Copper ETF?

Re: Parallel Universe - can be seen NOW!

Chrono-synclastic infundibulum. A "Siren's of Titan" reference. Where is Kilgore Trout? "Venus on the Half Shell" maybe.

" chrono-synclastic infundibulum, is those places ... where all the different kinds of truths fit together which would baffle the layman, but any comprehensible explanation would insult an expert. Consequently, the Market is so large, there are many possible ways to observe it, all of which are equally valid, because people from across the Market can't communicate with each other (and therefore can't get into an argument). The chrono-synclastic infundibula are places where these "ways to be right" coexist. When you enter the infundibulum, price becomes "wave phenomena", somewhat akin to the probability waves encountered in quantum mechanics. They exist along a spiral stretching from the Sun to the star Betelgeuse.

I sudstituted the word market for universe and it sounds like a definition of trading to me.

Re: Parallel Universe - can be seen NOW!

:Chrono-synclastic infundibulum. A "Sirens of Titan" reference."

Good call bobbyo. One of my all time favorites - on the same shelf with 100 Years of Solitude and Master and Margarita.

Unintended (maybe?) health care tax costs are

mounting company by company. Looks like Uncle Sugar has sown the seeds of a potential black swan.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&si...

Re: IMF Refuses To Sell Its Gold

fireworks -

"This chain of events definitely puts suspicions on the existence of all physical gold in the IMF inventory."

As I understand it, much of the IMF inventory is merely bullion pledged by sovereign members and thus, if for example India were to purchase IMF gold, it would be a ledger adjustment in the IMF gold pledge book and a big cash deposit from India. Can anyone confirm?

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Re: Copper ETF?

JJC, (an ETN) and DBB (base metals etf).

(Sorry all, double post...)

Re: Copper ETF?

JJC, DBB correct, and a few other variants, long and short, 1X or 2X. You can track most commodity ETFs live at http://nexalogic.com/commodity.html Hope it helps.

Re: Don't Get Caught Short

TOF,

"And cutting pension benefits is long overdue. It's completely unsustainable. Most people in the "private" markets have lost jobs, had pay freezes or cuts, and had their 401k matches dropped so people with public jobs should expect the same. And that's beside the fact that these pensions are absolutely ridiculous. There are some people in government in my area in southern CA that are getting pensions of over $200k per year. That's disgusting."

Absolutely right, but here in Illinois where five sate pensions re more than $61 Billion underfunded, only new hires will be affected. No surprise, since the legislators' pension is one which will not diminish for those who vote on the changes.

In the real world many of my friends who lost their manufacturing company jobs have had to raid the pensions — some paying the 10% penalty for pre-59-1/2 withdrawal. Others who I know and were already retired have had health insurance deductibles raised.

The worst thing is many if not all of these pensions begin paying at an early age (55 or so) at 75% of the best pay ever drawn and supervisors allow extra overtime work just prior to exit date to pad the payment for life.

The effect of these much bragged about "cuts" will be minimal since they are not currently hiring.

Scarey thought... 44% of US Debt needs to be rolled over

this year, and average maturity is four years....

when will I proof read.. ' Scary ' ...

...

People with pensions. Why don't we just shoot them?

Let's get the scorecard up to date. A couple hundred wallstreet dudes lose trillions on 'bad bets' and get bailed out with $two trillion. Home owners who don't understand the complexities of percents and interest rates get forgiveness on their half million dollar condo that is some how only worth 150,000 grand. People that have unpayable credit card debt because they have to watch 60" plasma screens while wearing their $75 t-shirts and $300 blue jeans from Ab + Fitch get forgiven for their "life style' choices. These people get a pass because they make America great. Where would America be if we didn't have easily manipulated, brain dead consumers or greedy sell their souls to the devil financial guys. We would have a real depression.

We all know who the real culprits are in this down turn. The one's that are driving the country in the ground. Public Service Pensioners. They simply live too long. Having them live is certainly unsustainable. Basically getting paid because they WORKED for 30 years is a bad deal for America. Only one solution to save America. We should take out all those old policemen,firemen and teachers and put a bullet in their head.
Bob

Re: People with pensions. Why don't we just shoot them?

Bob,

Get a grip.

Re: People with pensions. Why don't we just shoot them?

bobbyo, I understand your position but have you looked at the price of lead? Perhaps we do like the Chinese and bill the family for the bullet.

Pensions will not be paid, at least not in the same purchasing power Ameriskansky assignants. Pieces of money that we exchange each day are what I call FERNS. Federal reserve notes from a private bank. This is the accepted specie......today. It's kinda like my Social Security Number. It was assigned to me as a sort of 'work' permit. I didn't choose that number. Anyone that wants to use my assigned number is welcome to it. For a few FERNS, i'll sell it! I've always liked selling what is not mine..

Back to pensions. The one hundred and thirty year Bismarckian revolution of rising expectations has hit a wall. There are certainly screwed up systems and values but they will be altered as sure as taxes will increase and Bro Ben will print mullah. I know a guy (friend) with a 20 year military, 15 year teaching pension with Social Security benefits. We joke that he is a triple dipper. He makes more in retirement than his annual at any one of his previous jobs PLUS he substitutes twice a week for the same remuneration as if he was full time. We know there are tax penalities but HE knows that the system is corrupt, played it and laughs all the way to the bank...and he will agree that it is an untennable system.

I don't know how long it will take but I would guess at least 10 years and we will get a really PO'ed electerat (sp) that may throw the deadweight balast off the boat. But in the long long run, the hoi ploi doesn't want to work and they think they can vote themselves benefits... Democracy NEVER works in the long run. We need a benevolent Czar.

Re: IMF Refuses To Sell Its Gold

Eric Sprott has called the IMF bluff, he does put his money where his mouth is.
He wanted to buy, but would only accept physical delivery under any circumstance, and probably sell it to the Canadian Mint, like he has been doing,and reselling the Gold Maples. He is playing in the physical market here edging out Kitco,and moving in on Bullion Management group here in Canada, plus he is taking on Border Gold, Vancouver Bullion Exchange, Worldwide Precious Metals and is pissing off Scotia Mocata,the brokerage division of Bank Of Nova Scotia, hey I like his style

Eric bellied up to the bar and the bar was dry, he proved it without a doubt.

If it was not for Sprott GATA would not exist.

FD I have bought physical from ALL of the above but will NEVER pay with a bank draft again from any Canadian Bank after the Government of Canada pillaged and raped the pension system here for anyone wanting to take early retirement.

Under The Dog House Eh

Saturday Morning Coffee: If Nothing Goes Wrong, Is Everything OK

http://ronsen.blogspot.com/2010/03/saturday-mornin...

The confluence of charts, the Cara RSI system, and the re-funding action reflected by this week's bond auctions does speak to enhanced risk...

Re: People with pensions. Why don't we just shoot them?

dunno if your ends justify the means bob, but no doubt monetary inflation and potential default/devaluation will hit most where it hurts given time. I'm assuming a good dose of sardonicism in your post.

Re: People with pensions. Why don't we just shoot them?

I,
Always good advice. Guess I have been bitter ever since my beloved Wildcats did the choke of the century. I thought you were not suppose to have home games in the Ncaa tournament? Anyway adding insult to injury the Illini go and lose to a over-hyped and under talented North Carolina team.Thinking about Roy crying still turns my stomach. Unforgivable really.

Ross, SO your friend basically did 35 years of service for his country and community where his pension was committed to him before he signed up. That was part of the package to get him to sign up. I guess if our commitments are too costly its ok to renege on them. Right? The Govt broke, so we got to unplug Granny's Weather Channel. No more Sunday dinners at Marie Callenders. Its Alpo super chunky on a hot plate. My previous solution would be more dignified even with these Obama inflated prices for ammo.
Bob

Learning to up share size to 5-10k for type 1 scalps

particularly useful on liquid, slow moving stocks, PMI was the testbed of this type of trading the last few days. Someone told me that until I start trading for real money, I have no idea what trading's about. As someone who has traded for money already, I am quite confident that there is little difference - I don't like to lose and I can qualify that now by saying I don't like to lose because of a poorly planned trade. Getting the practice for correct entry/exit until it becomes mechanical makes it worthwhile. Besides which, I don't have a dime at the moment, so what's a guy to do?

Rereading MPP once again I'm reminded by one of the trader's quoted of the dangers of "going back to the trough too many times". After initially freaking out about using such a large number of shares (just getting used to trading 10k makes the paper trade practice worthwhile) my difficulty was in not getting too greedy and have the patience to wait out for the right type of movement. The attached chart shows where 10k works wonders. The chart areas not otherwise circled is where I gave profits back.

The lessons best learnt are always the mistakes.

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Re: Learning to up share size to 5-10k for type 1 scalps

Les , A good post ,I believe you are right about the value of practice. But especially your thoughts on GREED and PATIENCE . Bob.

Re: People with pensions. Why don't we just shoot them?

Hey, I have friends who double dipped too — teachers and military. About 15 years ago several teacher friends were offered an early out (55 same as 65). This allowed the school district to hire two entry level teachers for each 55-year-old. They took it and went to work in a neighboring district as subs.

Politicos always see the short term blessings only.

The problem is the early out, not the pension for services paid.

We can't afford to pay people as much as 75% of their best-ever pay beginning in their 50s. Nor do I see any reason their "contracts" are any more sacred than those who were dumped when their jobs were exported and couldn't draw retirement without a 10% tax penalty. Essentially this is what happened to me and many others I know.

Now as a taxpayer I am expected to "honor" the deal early retirement gives to gov. pensioners? This is sheer stupidity and outrageous!

As Stalin knew instinctively — simply ignoring the masses works. He let approximately 20 million simply dry up and die. Now that the government controls our health ration it will be easy to stall until the "problems" are gone.

The IRS will collect the health insurance assessments and, just like the Social Security and Medicare Funds, an IOU can be written the the collected cash used in categories more which are more lucrative to the politicians — vote buying, lobbyist payoffs, etc.

Note: They can think long term if it works for them.

Re: VAD, ARE WE THERE YET ? :)

Does that mean we will reach the moon first before we reverse since BEARS are no where to find these days?? So far the charts keep going up and up? just curious how far up this 13 months rally will go?? See XLF chart below as an example, hummmm

http://chartstuff.webs.com/likethis.htm

Do away with FDIC?

Re: Learning to up share size to 5-10k for type 1 scalps

Les I don't see the set up on the 2nd and fourth circle. I see a DBI on one and three.
Mr. Sardonic

Re: VAD, ARE WE THERE YET ? :)

I'm thinking if we break through 1200 and get up to about 1225 or so then most of the bears will be fully wiped out and it would probably be a good time to short. I think a lot of people are targeting 1200 as a good spot to short. But I'm not a great shorter so I'm probably wrong.

Re: Do away with FDIC?

Idiotic, IMO.

The FDIC is the ONLY good thing about the banking/finance system. All the failures should have been ALLOWED to fail, and the FDIC should have protected DEPOSITORS *ONLY*.

Instead we have "too big to fail", "moral hazard", and "the debt bubble from hell", all out the WAZOO.

It will take 200 years, if lucky, to recover from the debt left in its wake.

Eric Sprott interview

http://tinyurl.com/yeepztm

Half-way through the Kondrateiff winter, with another 10 years to go.

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Tim Wood reaffirms estimate of 10 - 12 year bear market, starting in 2007.
Developing DOW-Trans non-confirmation.

http://tinyurl.com/ybh3xxr

Re: Free housing for unemployed, lower principal for ...

NYUGrad,

"Sources familiar with the plan" are pumping the PR value of this announcment. The guidelines are pretty hard to meet. Expect few to qualify.

Housing Wire story: http://tinyurl.com/ydov2yj

Re: Free housing for unemployed, lower principal for ...

Banks are getting humongous tax breaks(more welfare from the government)to
write down principal and I believe I read a slew of adjusted mortgages were getting transferred to FHA. 50% of HAMP rewrites 9 months old are failing again. Heloc's also getting revised/rewritten with big advantages for the big banksters. Fraud and thievery alive and well. Like a Rorsch test, some see
recovery and some see continued destruction in the nation's housing market.

Regarding the stock market, I was looking at the Insiders Transaction report in today's WSJ and selling far exceeded buying across most sectors.

Perhaps the bond market is important to watch now...if the 10yr Treasury goes
over 4%, watch out below.

Re: Free housing for unemployed, lower principal for ...

MoKat,
Perhaps "watch out below" starts the day the Fed stops buying Mortgage Backed Securities (next week). Coming soon to an auction block near you.

Re: People with pensions. Why don't we just shoot them?

I suppose they would be too tough and leathery to eat?

See: A Modest Proposal
For Preventing The Children of Poor People in Ireland From Being A Burden to Their Parents or Country, and For Making Them Beneficial to The Public

Click http://art-bin.com/art/omodest.html here for a link to ORIGINAL article:

By Jonathan Swift (1729) | 27 March 2010

Andrew Maguire follow up

This just in from GATA:

On March 25th at the CFTC Public Hearing on Precious Metals GATA made a dramatic revelation of a whistle-blower source, Andrew Maguire, who has first hand evidence of gold and silver market manipulation by JPMorganChase and who has even tipped off the CFTC in advance of manipulative attacks on gold and silver. Just as in the Madoff case the regulator has done nothing to stop such manipulation.

On March 26th while out shopping with his wife, Mr. Maguire's car was hit by a car careening out of a side road. The driver of the vehicle then tried to escape. When a pedestrian eye-witness attempted to block the driver's escape he accelerated at him and would have hit him had the pedestrian not jumped out of the way. The car then hit two other cars in escaping. The driver was apprehended by the police after police helicopters were called in and following a high speed chase.

Andrew and his wife were hospitalized with minor injuries. They were discharged from hospital today and should make a full recovery.

Re: LYM

ALOHA!!

Johnny posted - "Well, Kaimu do you sell now or hold on for the 'wild ride'? LYM@0.23 +35.29% presently."

LYM ended up for the week 35%+ on good volume. Hummmm ... let me think! Since the share price for the most part since 2006 has been at $0.25CDN range aside from spikes up to $0.58CDN I think I will stay put for now.

Now for a deeper look at LYM other than just a spirited debate over "country risk" ...

What most people do not know about LYM is that it started in the coal biz and now has morphed into an energy play with two major players, one private and one public. The private company is ELKO ENERGY, based in Canada, which LYM owns 35% of(see 04/27/09 news release). Here is the info on ELKO and I would check out the management as they are all Shell, Phillips, Occidental, Marathon, BP, Sun Oil, E-On Rhurgas, Kufopec and Agic KCO alum. Not just a band of novices hoping for the big "wildcat"! The key guy here is Andrew Morrison as he has brought together a plethora of well connected industry experts from Shell Oil. These same management and directors appear at LYM, XTR and ELKO. So when you buy LYM shares you are buying ELKO and the management and directors of this private company. You could buy ELKO through XTR but at a more costly price and not at 35%. Right now I think the most "bang for the looney" is at LYM.

ELKO ENERGY
Elko is a private Canadian registered oil & gas exploration company which has interests in exploration and production licences in the Danish and Dutch North Sea. Its major asset is in the Danish North Sea: an 80% interest in 26 offshore blocks in a 5,400 sq km exploration and production license close to the prolific Central Graben oil field. Technical analysis carried out to date indicates the potential for significant reserves. Elko also holds a 60% operating interest in gas-bearing license blocks P1 and P2 in the Dutch North Sea.

Management link is here.
LINK: http://www.elkoenergy.com/management1.html

The Directors link is here.
LINK: http://www.elkoenergy.com/board.html

So while Vad and I got into it a bit about "government ties" in the Ukraine you can see that LYM has a huge spread through the oil and gas industry in Europe. In actuality even though LYM and ELKO are Canadian the majority of the company management is made up of Europeans with connections in Europe. A diverse management with ties not only to Europe but also Canada and Australia who have deep experience operating in places like the Ukraine, Russia and Kyrgyzstan(all as equally corrupt as the West).

XTRACT ENERGY
The other public company that is tied to LYM, mostly through management and ELKO is XTRACT ENERGY listed on the AIM under the symbol XTR.

LINK: http://www.xtractenergy.co.uk/

Now it appears some movement in these updates regarding XTR's increased stake in ELKO ENERGY.

LINK: http://tinyurl.com/y9nluu9

My point is that doing some deeper due diligence you would see that buying LYM is not strictly buying "coal in the Ukraine". When I buy LYM I am buying a bigger and more diversified private energy play with seasoned and proven management both at LYM as well as XTR and ELKO. The "people tree" is huge here and that is what I am buying ... the "jockeys"!!!

Re: Andrew Maguire follow up

ALOHA!!

Wow, Bill ... I guess the moral is be careful when you testify against JPM!!

I know I am "jumping" to conclusions and the whole "innocent until proven guilty" thing and all, but what are the odds this guy in jail "accidentally" gets "shanked" by another inmate? I was wondering when Madoff will get shanked by an angry investor with enough cash left over to pay an unscrupulous inmate. I guess so far there aren't any more unscrupulous inmates than Bernie!

One thing I came away with during my many years doing prison projects as a contractor is that these guys "inside" have tons of time on their hands! Kind of like the guys in the US Congress and the US FED!

Big Gov't Debt Rollover

Big supply of government debt re-financing coming soon. I suspect either geopolitical events or market volatility will be created to scare some money into the "safe haven" of fixed income.

Re: Big Gov't Debt Rollover

ALOHA!!

Hey Jack ...

Well now that PIMCO is moving into "stock funds" they want to scare us out of "US fixed income"!!! HA!!! Pretty soon we'll all be scared right into the "poor house" which is where Wall Street, the US Congress and the US FED want us. Actions speak louder than words in my book!

Bill Gross Warning May Catch Bond Investors Off-Guard
March 26, 2010 Bloomberg

Bill Gross’s warning that the almost three-decade rally in fixed-income has run its course may catch individual investors off guard after they poured $89 billion into bond funds this year.

The inflows through yesterday are running almost five times higher than deposits during the first three months of 2009, according to Brad Durham, co-founder of Emerging Portfolio Fund Research Inc., a Boston-based firm that tracks investor flows worldwide into mutual funds and exchange-traded funds. Investors reeling from losses during the financial crisis poured record amounts into fixed-income funds last year, missing the biggest stock market rally since the 1930s.

Pacific Investment Management Co.’s Gross, manager of the world’s biggest bond fund, said yesterday in an interview with Tom Keene on Bloomberg Radio that “bonds have seen their best days.” Pimco, which announced in December that it would offer stock funds, is advising investors to buy the debt of countries such as Germany and Canada that have low deficits and higher- yielding corporate securities.(more)

LINK: http://tinyurl.com/ycrqqo7

Re: Andrew Maguire follow up

Very interesting and suspiciously coincidental. It sounds like someone is trying to pull a General George S. Patton on Mr. Maguire. Good thing he was not injured sufficiently to be admitted to a hospital because the odds of being an out-patient would have been slim.

For some weekend reading...

"The newly unearthed diaries of a colourful assassin for the wartime Office of Strategic Services (OSS), the forerunner of the CIA, reveal that American spy chiefs wanted Patton dead because he was threatening to expose allied collusion with the Russians that cost American lives.

His book, "Target Patton", contains interviews with Mr Bazata, who died in 1999, and extracts from his diaries, detailing how he staged the car crash by getting a troop truck to plough into Patton's Cadillac and then shot the general with a low-velocity projectile, which broke his neck while his fellow passengers escaped without a scratch."

http://tinyurl.com/77kfd2

Putting the Market in perspective.

A very good chart that puts the market in perspective from our friends at "Slope of Hope."
http://www.slopeofhope.com/

Re: Andrew Maguire follow up

Fireworks. Bless you but you have been decieved. Georgie would have NEVER colludid with the Soviets. Perhaps he was chided for wanting to push the Russians out of Eastern Europe but he was no real threat to anyone.

Books are an example of desparate loosers trying to get lunch money.

If you want to research a REAL conspiricy, look at the timing and ambitions of William of Normandy and his cousin Henry Hardrata...

Re: Learning to up share size to 5-10k for type 1 scalps

Mr Sardonic, at the risk of being beaten around the head with a scalping course book on Monday, I was taking a few cents out of the trend that was developing in PMI, in tune with SPY.

PMI was on my screen from the opening on the 25th, and its failure to follow SPY higher after 11am led me to conclude it was a short. What is difficult to describe to you is the way the "tape" changes, as my clue to entry. T&S speeds up, so does level 2 and its reflected in this case in those consistent red candle sticks that I was riding on the way down. Like the way 2nd ave talks about the train leaving the station, I start to get this notion of when the stock is leaving and moving purposefully somewhere.

For example, on the 4th circle I missed the setup we both would recognise at around 11:30 on the 26th, when PMI broke .54 and shot upwards to resistance at 4.75. Figuring this move to be unsustainable given my observations of PMI and the market tanking nicely after 12:30pm, I simply played the reversal - short low and cover lower.

Those setups you were looking for are consistent winners for me now on paper and will ensure a profitable return to trading this year - those being Vad's setups. There's also a talented crew working with Vad and their strategies have opened my eyes to euphoric/capitulation reversals, momentum trading (practiced with much guidance from Vad - see ABIO on 1 min. chart Friday for an example of momo) and large share scalping. Creating my own style from these various strategies will no doubt be a multi-year learning experience.

Working with a bunch of loonies that give Monty Python a run for their money makes it all the more fun.

cheers

Day Traders 2.0 (NY Times Article)

Re: Big Gov't Debt Rollover

What!?!

First Buffett and now Gross! Can we trust no one?

PIMCO going into stocks is simply following the trend in retail. Buy your groceries at Wal-Mart and Target, Stockings at Target and the super market, bank branches are in all of the above. Will the brokers be left out much longer?

We're going back to the General Store of the B-Western movies... including cracker barrel advice from the management. (Truly Gross! Pun intended.)

Politicians, talking heads, gurus of all stripes and, of course, Bernanke and other functionaries — all are enticing, urging and coercing with their words of prophecy and wisdom.

Bill said it all a couple of days ago, "This is not a time to buy, sell or short, especially not short. It’s a time to be patient."

Now all I need to do is tell myself that a dozen times a day ;-)

Sunday Morning Coffee: Defensive Indifference

http://ronsen.blogspot.com/2010/03/sunday-morning-...

Is Ben Bernanke the Delmon Young of central banking?

Re: Day Traders 2.0 (NY Times Article)

good article. I've watching their videos on YouTube for over 2 year now. Recently they started doing a lot more swing trading (swing scalping as they call it). They still day trade but due to what they say is a lack of intraday volume and increased "robot trading" it becomes more difficult to day trade. Swing trading makes their positions less prone to intraday noise. If anyone is interested they can find their videos on youtube by searching sgomez858.

Re: Andrew Maguire follow up

Au contraire Ross, it was not General George who colluded with the Soviets but the Allied High Command. Thus, the good general had to be silenced because he knew too much, was highly respected, outspoken, and was on the verge of going home to the U.S. Keep in mind too that Ike had major political ambitions and a few words from General George would have ended that campaign rather quickly. Also, books are sometimes not much worse than the official history books or media propaganda. Just have a gander at any government statistics, e.g. BLS job report, for some real fiction. Additionally, I would definitely consider one of Bill's financial books much more dependable than any communication from GS or JPM.

Cheers

dow

Louise Yamada mentioned the hs top in advance of the fall through the neckline in 2008, price has now retraced back to the neckline

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Re: Day Traders 2.0 (NY Times Article)

A few problems with that article. THe Day trader is against impossible odds bent to the article is a theme rewritten many times. Only 1% of daytraders can be successful someone says. Only 20% of active traders make money another study contends. ECT ECT. Basically the article whispers. You can't do it, the odds are too high. Then of coarse the ever present robo trader. With its smart algorithms. In the example given. It was the robo trader that took him out of his stop. Well dude, maybe your stop was not loose enough? I compare Day trading to gambling. You could write the same piece about gambling. "Only 1% of the people who gamble can make a living at it. The house has all the odds. You can't go against the big boys ect.ect." All probably true. But there is a much higher success rate if you just take serious professional gamblers. One with risk control, a disciplined system and the ability of keeping the task a complete bore. Like day trading the success rate is significantly higher.
Bob

The Skinny: Principal Reductions and 2nd Loan Mods

I finally sat down to connect the dots on the latest distressed borrower perks pairing the 1st Mortgage Principal Reductions with the 2nd Lien Modifications. I include links to guidelines for those interested in the how these are 'supposed to work'. Guess who benefits most?

http://equitytalks.blogspot.com/2010/03/2nd-mortga...

Re: Big Gov't Debt Rollover

"The prospect of a strengthening U.S. economy (?) and rising interest rates makes an “argument to not own as many” bonds, Gross said in the interview."

This is Gross's reasoning for his change of attitude regarding bonds.

I know some here see an improving economy, but I can't see any genuine indications of improvement.
• Too many homes for sale and too many under water.
• Too many people unemployed and many more underemployed.
• Too many cities and states with budget shortfalls
• Too much foreign competition on too many product lines.
• Too many people still too scared to borrow even if they could qualify.

I would welcome anyone (especially Gross) to change my mind on the state of the US economy — or the entire western economy for that matter.

My measure is enough jobs for three a month period to more than equal the newly added to the workforce. This would be mean 300,000 or 400,000 new, well paying jobs each month! Forget seasonal adjustments and temp hiring — real jobs only.

FD: Approx. 40% in bonds and bond funds until a sustained 4% 10-yr.

Re: Andrew Maguire follow up

Bill - Question on WIR

Bill - You said "Btw, it was two years ago this month that the 5-year yield ($FVX) was about to soar in just three months from 2.16% to an economy-stopping, equity market crashing 3.80%. Fast forward to the low of 2.00% four months ago to 2.59% this week, on the way to maybe 3.5% or higher in the next few months. Bondholders first and shareholders next will choke. The latter will cave in as interest rates reach a certain cycle high level. Nobody knows at this point how high that level will be, but I suspect it may be about 3.5% yield on the 5-year US Treasury paper."

The way I see it though, it looks like the 5 year is reactionary to the equity markets, plunging when the equity markets plunge and rising when the equity markets rise. That is, if I saw the 5 year rising I would assume the equity market would do the same. Do you disagree?

TBT as a hedge on gold

If PIMCO (owned by a Germany's Allianz, don't forget) is recommending a move to equities and "stable" sovereign debt, it may be time to short the U.S. debt. Bill Gross would know that Bernanke is finished with the QE as pledged at the end of March. PIMCO, with over $1 Trillion under management, is saying something here and it dovetails with WIR #13 commentary that U.S. debt may have had it as a safe haven.

Thoughts on TBT as a hedge on gold going down with an equity crash as interest rates climb to attract dollars appreciated.

225 bp spread in 10y EOY consensus

Lots of bond noise. Here's the primary dealer's take on EOY 2y, 10y, and Fed Funds yields:

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&si...

10 y extremes:

Goldman Sachs 3.25%
Morgan Stanley 5.50%
Consensus 4.20%

As usual, once all the noise hits the front page, most of the move has already taken place.

Shanghai Breaking Out

Tomorrow I'm going to move my money in my long term investing account into our Emerging Markets Index Fund, 18% of which is allocated to China.

Bearish On Bonds?

What defect in my character makes me want to go long TLT with all these experts being so bearish on bonds? Bill Gross and Greenspan and the Meryll Lynch dudes and Barron's and and and and.....They are always right. Right?. Short bonds already seems to be a crowded trade.
Bob

Re: Bearish On Bonds?

Bobbyo,

Perhaps the defect is on the other side of the issue. Nearly all forecasts and expectations are built on fairly recent past patterns.

The attached is from Big Charts. Note the over 50% short interest.

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