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Bill Cara’s Blog for May 27, 2010 [See post-close report]

Morning Call [7:10am ET] Two people known for talking their book offer widely different views at this point. For some people, the one scenario would be an absolute nightmare, while the other would be a trip to Disney’s Magic Kingdom.

As reported by Bloomberg, Barton Biggs of Traxis Partners, who I perceive as part of a multi-trillion dollar trading syndicate, or investors dining club if you will, says “(The S&P 500) is very, very oversold, and I think we’re going to have a big pop to the upside some time in the next couple of days. I wouldn’t be surprised to see us go to a new recovery high, just to make everybody squirm.” ... On the other hand, Toronto-based theme investor Eric Sprott says the S&P 500’s recent slump is just the start of a collapse that will see it drop from a recent high of 1219.80 to below the March 2009 low of 666.79.

Until 10pm ET last evening, as I turned off the American Idol on TV and switched to my monitors, I didn’t know which one was the reality show. The charts were showing me doji candlesticks bursting out all over, right at 10pm, a clear sign of soaring volatility and a probable trend reversal in capital markets. The only item of significance on the news was a report that the Chinese government were still buying the bonds of PIIGS that other investors had been spurning. As the Euro had been crashing all afternoon yesterday, I thought to myself, well, here we go again!

Sometimes you wonder – well, actually I think it’s always a set-up – if the New York hedge fund dining club didn’t just tweak the news as they finished their evening’s chocolate expresso mouse.

But, it is what it is, as we say. Here are the before and after shots.

10:00pm ET

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If this were a race between the tortoise and the hare –- yes Aesop’s fable seems appropriate -- the start goes to Barton Biggs.

As for me, I’d like to stick around til the end, which, as you know, never happens in capital markets. Or in the lifespan of some tortoises happens to be a couple hundred years.

Have a great day. Enjoy the volatility.


CTA Trading Desk Post-Close Report

We have seen a lot of studies over the past year analyzing how much of the Bull campaign off the March 2009 lows has occurred on Globex overnight versus the total points gained during regular trading hours. Our guess is that well over 80% of the gains in the US market were achieved while most traders were sleeping. Sure, maybe it was the foreigners buying, but more likely those in power found it much easier and less costly to move the market higher in thinner overnight markets.

Kind of like last night, when equities plummeted in a late-day sell-off, magically finding a humungous bid on Globex, and rallying a dizzying 37 (+3.45%) points in a matter of hours last evening. Do you really think the Chinese would tell the whole world they were going to sell Euro denominated assets before they actually disposed of them? So maybe that story was floated late yesterday to drive down stocks, encouraging shorts to pile on as big money “painted the tape” into the close. Bang’em-to-buy’em – mission accomplished. The shorts got trapped when they weren’t looking.

Any trader shorting stocks today got burned as equities never pulled back closing on their highs (S&P+3.29%). Many traders will be looking to sell at the 200-day moving average near 1106, so be prepared for a surge of short covering if the market stalls at that level for several hours, and then gathers momentum into the final hour of trading.

S&P 1140 remains a measured-move target as discussed last evening, but closely watch the price action around the 200-day – a measure used by many longer-term investors as a benchmark for the internal health of the equity market.

All Bullish bets are off under S&P 1040.

Have a great evening.


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Spain parliament backs austerity by one vote

Cara 100 Ratings Changes

Good morning.

MCD - Sterne Agee Initiates Coverage with a Buy.

MSFT - Upgraded to Outperform @ FBR. PT Raised from $31 to $32

NE - Downgraded to Market Perform @ BMO. The firm downgraded the stock to reflect its concerns about the effect of a long moratorium on Gulf drilling on the company, as well as the firm's outlook for subdued oil prices. Target $41.

SBUX - Credit Suisse Initiates Coverage with an Outperform. PT = $34

Re: Spain parliament backs austerity by one vote

Interesting, the U.S. has a higher percentage of debt to GDP than Spain does.

I guess our austerity measures are, but not limited to: no jobs, high taxation and no interest return on savings.

Regards,
BH

Re: Spain parliament backs austerity by one vote

Spain's unemployment rate is double that of the U.S., so it's not all roses.

Cara 100 Update

JOYG - Broadpoint Initiates Coverage with a Buy. PT = $60

MSFT - target was cut to $35 at Morgan Stanley. Company will be hurt by multiple compression across the entire market. Overweight rating.

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MON being killed (again) on earnings forecast cut.

How do we sign up for the

How do we sign up for the cara select funds again?

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hi tob... will get back in alth today... best of trades to ya', baz

Re: Spain parliament backs austerity by one vote

Bull Hunter, Mark H,

U.S. unemployment is double what is admitted. I wonder if Spain is any more honest than we are.

The average American is trying austerity, but not by choice. Politicians don't have the guts to do it. It's time to deflate the windbags.

Not midsummer yet, but...

"What fools these mortals be."

gold here... big if's...

if gold can close above its early morning high of today alongside the falling USD, i believe the next major upleg in this intermediate term move in gold will be underway.

looking toward the high $1200's or low $1300's for POG before any serious resistance occurs. early to mid june seems right to me before a long hot and shifty summer for gold.

be careful of the stocks, any downdraft in the market will take them down.

be careful of the usual claims that any downward move in gold are people selling to cover margin calls etc etc, who ever says that about oil or the financials? lets get real and be honest with ourselves.

good luck.

Reason for the Rally

It's quite simple. I wrote some puts early in the week on MSFT and JPM. Then panicked out when the market plunged 250 pts the next day instead of doubling down like I should have. Would have made some nice coin, but instead lost yet a little more. I've never been more confused. Going to cash except for a few core holdings until I can get my head straight on this crazy market.

KC

Rubicon Intersects 1.24 oz/ton Gold Over 22.5 feet.......

Rubicon stock was halted this morning prior to this release. Very impressive drill holes and the stock is flyin' since trading resumed.

http://tinyurl.com/34pea6q

"THUNDER BAY, ON, May 27 /PRNewswire-FirstCall/ - Rubicon Minerals Corporation (RMX:TSX: / RBY:NYSE-AMEX) is pleased to announce results from drill hole 305-05 at its 100%-owned Phoenix Gold Project, located in the heart of the prolific Red Lake Gold District of Ontario. This hole is significant as it represents the first test from the underground 305 metre level across the F2 Core Zone in the area of the intended cross-cut (Figure 1). The hole trace is sub-horizontal with a dip of minus 5.8 degrees across the zone and intersects the gold-bearing stratigraphy at near right angles. Reported lengths are thus interpreted to be true thicknesses. The hole intersected 1.24 oz/ton gold over 22.6 feet (42.5 g/t gold over 6.9 metres) part of a broad vein zone grading 0.59 oz/ton gold over 49.2 feet (20.1 g/t gold over 15.0 metres). New results are presented in Table 1 and Figure 1."

Re: Spain parliament backs austerity by one vote

Hi Grym,

I've been wondering the same thing....I can't seem to find out how Spain figures their unemployment percentage.

Do they also use "happy assumption" birth/death models? Pad their employment with Census jobs? Have they defined long term discouraged workers out of existence?

Real unemployment here is around 22% using the SGS Alternate Unemployment Rate.

I wonder where Spain's actual unemployment stands.

Regards,
BH

One word, Ben

' plastics ' ! or flywheels...

Round of applause, mission accomplished

(EU) Italian PM Berlusconi: United European action has defeated attacks on the euro by speculators

Dollar looking topped. TBT up big

Any guesses why?

Admitted debt now over $13 trillion, + 5 trillion Freddie and Fannie, and no possibility it will ever be repaid?

Trying to make sense of it why nobody cared a week ago....

RBY

Great news this morning. They stopped trading at 10;12 and didn't resume until 11:15. Most people thought it was a takeover offer but it turned out to be a powerful drilling update underground which confirms a zone thickness on the same scale of all the other major mines in the Red Lake District. On that release I took a profit in excess of 10%.
You know what they say, sell the news and rebuy on a recycle. That I will do. Right now RBY has come off its high.
I am still waiting for UXG to recycle. Currently, my only mining position is Exeter, XRA, and adding on price dips.
In reviewing my notes at the Hard Assets Conference, I noted the following:
2009 Gold Source: Scrap 37%
Official Sector Sales (Central Banks, etc.) 1%
Mine Production 62%

2009 World Gold Demand: Investment 44%
Jewelry 41%
Dehedging 6%
Other Fabrication 9%
Have a good day.

Mining Equipment : Sold Out Until Next Year

looking to see what the hedges can do with

re:gold here... big if's... new

I'm with you doc

I've been watching $SILVER:$GOLD and the RSI7 has been near 30, but not below, and looks to me like it could turn up. Previous turns up indicated a nice little rally even when they did not drop below 30.

FD: Went from 100% cash into some SLW & PHYS at open. Definitely maintaining my stops.

Good luck!

Re: gold here... big if's...

I don't see any chance at all that gold will close up at all, today, but to be honest, it doesn't make any sense to me that gold isn't up with the dollar collapsing.

Why are the miners up, then????

My guess is they sneak gold up over the holiday weekend when nobody here has the option to buy till after it is already a done deal.

Op Ed in NYT - David Einhorn

From yesterday.....

http://tinyurl.com/3ax2juo

Rare bull thoughts, before they get fried

HEADS UP, Monday is a Holiday in US Markets. Last few years, three days weekends have seen lots of shenanigans.

Another thought on the Elliot Wave 5 waves. By observation, not recital of the "bible". Lets say wave 1 starts up, then a number of participants jump on long after they see the move started, maybe they get filled at about half of the run up. Then wave 2 comes, retracing 61% of wave 1.....if those wave one buyers set their stop tight, they get stopped out. Then, after getting burned, they are afraid to jump on long again, and thus miss the wave 3.

Waves that retrace and that overlap make it very hard to trade small moves...i.e. to "get in" with a safe stop. And with the high volatility of late...if you set your stop too loose, you have a high likelihood of waking up to a stupendous loss.

This is the market we currently have....being gunned up and down, affected greatly by Forex, in particular the Euro. But being gunned for the sake of stopping bears and bulls alike.

Bullish factors -- Cup and Handle and Inverse Head and Shoulders. The Bollinger bands are getting tight...that means energy is building for a big move.....direction is not known from the Bollinger, as with the McC Oscillator.

http://screencast.com/t/YjkxZWVh

Euro has been pounded, its about ready for a rally and sure looks to be starting one.

BP might just get this well capped with mud, then with concrete.-- some news does move the market. Some people state that news is fabricated to explain market moves, and in a great majority of cases that is true.

But their are large structural events that get reported on also, and these do affect the pyschology of the participants, their emotions, and the fundamentals of our economy.

Re: gold here... big if's...

Cheapy - miners (using GDX as a proxy) were about flat yesterday despite a big jump in the POG. Miner stocks are playing catch up today because the weight has been lifted off of the broad equity market.

This has been occuring a lot lately as S&P and the gold price have been diverging. If you look at yesterday's action, miners were up big in the morning with the metal but sold off all day with the broader market, which was at least partially due to people liquidating stronger positions to cover losses on stocks that were battered in the recent downturn.

So, miners ended yesterday on the cheap side but in order to capture this value you had to hold miners overnight and risk that yeserdays end of day selloff continued or even worse, a gap down.

Here is a 5-day chart of GDX, GLD, and S&P 500 that may give a visual representation:

http://tinyurl.com/32pk8q4

Re: Rare bull thoughts, before they get fried

Steveo , Avery accurate description of a very treacherous market . " Another thought on the Elliot Wave 5 waves. By observation, not recital of the "bible". Lets say wave 1 starts up, then a number of participants jump on long after they see the move started, maybe they get filled at about half of the run up. Then wave 2 comes, retracing 61% of wave 1.....if those wave one buyers set their stop tight, they get stopped out. Then, after getting burned, they are afraid to jump on long again, and thus miss the wave 3.

Waves that retrace and that overlap make it very hard to trade small moves...i.e. to "get in" with a safe stop. And with the high volatility of late...if you set your stop too loose, you have a high likelihood of waking up to a stupendous loss. " Bob

Re: Spain parliament backs austerity by one vote

BH,

I had two years of Spanish nearly 60 years ago and never learned how to say, "honest politician", but I don't think there is much need whatever language you choose ;-)

About the only time I get any news from the TV is if I happen to read the crawl.

People I know are mostly hurting and the verbal and written spin only makes them angrier.

I have one son with a degree from an Ivy League school whose job may very well go to India. My other son followed in my footsteps as a graphic designer and is currently earning less than half what he made in 1990.

I have dozens of other names with similar stories — machinists, an architect, a local banker, many in sales and manufacturing. Lately it's my barber and the daughter of a close friend.

Our city is laying off firemen and my state is over $60 billion behind on state pension funding — BUT the damn governor favors increasing them from 7 to 20%! I'd love to see City Hall be the first to burn to the ground and a state taxpayer revolt.

Re: gold here... big if's...

BillySundance,

GDX was flat yesterday against a rising gold price because of the USD.
today w/ the USD down and gold hovering around the same are the miners are up.

we see the same occur on the XGD and other canadian listed mining shares.

as noted the broad pattern for the past 3 years or so has been one of declining value of the miners vs. gold, so you will see larger drops as gold falls and lighter gains as gold rises. those large moves up in the miners that everyone talks about as being the sign they are back are temporary, the moment gold stalls or tracks sideways the miners quickly loose momentum and fall.

GDX:GLD says about everything one needs to know about this situation.

New piece by Matt Taibbi - "Wall Street's War"

New piece by Matt Taibbi
May 26, 2010 9:15 AM EDT
http://bit.ly/9SH1dK

"Wall Street's War"
Congress looked serious about finance reform – until America's biggest banks unleashed an army of 2,000 paid lobbyists"

Re: gold here... big if's...

Cosa - I agree. USD was up and would not weaken, which is eventually what led to equities failing to hold morning gains and then taking a nosedive at end of day. Gold miners taken down with all the equities but were about flat at end of day whereas S&P ended about -0.70%.

GDX:GLD long term trend is indeed down, however, we are (in my opinion) in a intermediate and very gradual upward trend that began in early February. We made two higher lows this week as shown in this chart. Today we moved back to the 50 day moving average of GDX:GLD where we are hovering and waiting for the next move from the USD and the S&P to determine which way we break.

http://tinyurl.com/34fveba

I for one think that the GDX:GLD relationship will eventually reverse but it may be quite awhile. I do think we are slowly stabilizing and that within the next 2 years the GDX:GLD 500 Day moving average will eventually flatten and begin to reverse. Pin-pointing this event is like shooting fish in a barrel so for the time being I choose to follow the current uptrend while being observant of the risk of reverting to the long-term downward trend.

Re: gold here... big if's...

Its normal for the miners to rise before the metal does.

Re: gold here... big if's...

Since the gold bull started ten years ago, the miners outperformed gold for the first three years, then paced gold for the next four years. 2008 saw gold outperform the miners, but the miners have been catching up since. Pull up a performance chart showing gold and gdx or hui; since late 2000 the gdx is up 623%, hui is up 1,085%, and gold is up 357% . I'll take the miners.

Buys sells.

Missed last hour yesterday due to lunch date so had to sell down to sleep level (V, cien, goog, tbt, and CSCO), held partial positions overnight. Reloaded today AAPL, GOOG, CIEN, V, HIG thinking we close strong and is going higher? 1120 next stop? Notwithstanding "the perils of fighting governments"

Re: Playing a bounce/ Some Kind Of Wonderful

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TIpNL1Ckuno&feature...

Pz-

Cleared ST positions in FIDSX/FSENX at the close, for a combined gain of 4.41% (over 2 days). Of course, Fidelity will be taxing me 0.75% for closing both positions within 30 days, leaving me with 3.66%. That still leaves the total port up 1.83% in two days (positions were taken in the 'buy-and-hold' half of the port).

Some kind of wonderful? Yeah, I kind of feel like the guy banging away on the sticks.

First they said sell Euro bonds, few hours later they denied???

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Stocks-jump-after-Ch...

"The show of confidence in Europe let the market resume a rally that stalled late Wednesday following a report that China was considering cutting its exposure to European debt. That would have signaled that China didn't think Europe would be able to contain the crisis. The agency that manages China's $2.5 trillion in foreign reserves denied the report.
"

This setup screwed up many traders/investors as many would have gone short after the release of China earlier report about limiting their holdings of Euro Bonds to wake up next day and find out China has denied it. What the hell? How are we supposed to trade based on supposedly reliable news feed? Man oh man, they continue to play us in every shape or form they wish and suck in our money. Don't tell me, follow the TA only, it doesn't work most of the time.

Re: Playing a bounce/ Some Kind Of Wonderful

Nice 2nd!

I was cursing my tight stops right at the open and throughout the day. LOL Opportunity lost not cash. In this market it could have gapped down 200. My weekend starts in 2 hours. Hope everyone has a great(and SAFE) holiday weekend!!

Re: Playing a bounce/ Some Kind Of Wonderful

fwiw, I would have closed out my positions yesterday about the same time you did, except that mutual funds only trade EOD.

Going into last night's close, I had the option of closing out for a minor loss (taking into account the 0.75% ST trading fee), or going with my instincts, which 'interpreted' the last-minute sell-off as a shakedown prior to take-off. Sometimes it comes down to the sixth sense.

(The ST trading fee and the fact that funds only trade EOD are both clear signs IMO of a 'house advantage.')

FT: China fund ‘very concerned’ on shaky eurozone

China’s main sovereign wealth fund is “very concerned” about short-term market fluctuations resulting from instability in the eurozone, according to the fund’s president.

However, Gao Xiqing, president of China Investment Corp, told Chinese state media that the ongoing debt crisis would not seriously affect China’s overseas investment in Europe. “[China Investment Corp] will keep its investment level in Europe, no more, no less. Short-term fluctuations won’t bring serious effect on us,” he said.

Nonetheless, Xinhua, the official Chinese news agency, paraphrased Mr Gao as saying: “CIC is very concerned about the short-term market fluctuations amid threatened eurozone stability.”

http://bit.ly/a9qf3l

Re: First they said sell Euro bonds, few hours later they ...

How are we supposed to trade based on supposedly reliable news feed?

Last thing we are supposed to do is to buy or sell based on the headline crossing the wire... Everyone sees that headline - can you imagine everyone winning in the market? Same goes for gurus advice in various newsletters and articles.

Don't tell me, follow the TA only, it doesn't work most of the time.

TA works 100% of the rime. Real question is, what do we do with TA? Let me offer you this read: http://blog.realitytrader.com/2007/04/what-do-your...

Re: First they said sell Euro bonds, few hours later they ...

I think what Vad's getting at is that gaming traders' reactions to any news is far more reliable than gaming the actual news.

Human reactions/responses follow fairly predictable patterns. If you see a certain pattern developing in real time, you can probably predict (with better than even odds) how the price action will unfold.

Re: Playing a bounce/ Some Kind Of Wonderful

Speaking of the predictability of human nature- if the market lives up to its 'max frustration' personality, the indexes will rally another 4% tomorrow, leaving my 2-day gains in the dust.

Personally, I just didn't have the guts to hold another day.

$24,000USD

ALOHA!!

At the US TREASURY, as of May 26th, the total "outlays" for FY2010 so far, over the past 7.5 months, comes to $7.3TRIL USD($7.28T). If there are 304 million people in the USA then that is $24,000USD per every man, woman and child. For a family of four that would be $96,000USD. Seems like if Obama really wanted to solve the consumer debt issue and put people back to work he'd consider where those enormous sums of spending are going. Instead of citizens pockets these funds are going to the US military, infrastructure, insolvent banks, insolvent corporations, market interventions, foreigners and a bevy of more entangling laws and regulations designed to grow government and suppress the Middle Class. Total government mismanagement will be the end result, so does it even matter that $7.3TRIL went directly into US citizens pockets for once? Besides that is only 7.5 months of outlays, not even an entire year, so let the rest of the government, military and banks and special interest live off the other 4.5 months for once. In the end what would it matter? Since we aren't going to pay this debt off anyway, who cares? Seems an entire Nation of cashed up citizens would then instantly stimulate the Keynesian Consumer Vortex thereby bringing the jobless numbers way down.

If anything this little mental exercise sheds some light on the massive spending now going on over at the US TREASURY on our behalf. Who, supposedly, owns the US TREASURY? Just cut out all those "middlemen" ...

at the 200 dma

Big rally today to the 200 DMA. Will people feel like they're missing out on buying this particular dip right as we hit resistance? Interestingly, volume on this day's massive move up was less than the volume on yesterday's failed move up, and also smaller than on many of the moves down over the past few weeks. How much of this move was constructed in the overnight futures market and how much was actual buying during market hours?

The VIX is down to 29 from 45, that much was accomplished. All those puts bought in anticipation of a break below 1066 are now at least half of what they were three days ago. Max frustration to me would see a few more days of either up or sideways movement to let the VIX slowly leak away, followed by a big move down on some sort of negative market news.

EDIT: wrote this before I saw the post-close report. I must be reading the thoughts of the guys at CTAB...

Re: First they said sell Euro bonds, few hours later they ...

After reading post-close report, I must add this to my previous post.

From the report: Do you really think the Chinese would tell the whole world they were going to sell Euro denominated assets before they actually disposed of them?

Beware of "obvious"... Things are rarely, if ever, go along the lines of obvious.

Just imagine you have an enormous amount of shares to sell - are you going to advertise it to the whole world so that sellers run to cut their holdings ahead of you and buyers withdraw their bids? There was a reason why Livermore broke his accounts between many brokers, hiding his whole operation and making it difficult for others to front-run him.

When someone informs the world of upcoming operation of such scale, something is not right. Politics? Threats? Misunderstanding? Press distortion? Public musings mistaken for official policy? Could be any of those, plus couple dozens more.

Re: $24,000USD

You said it brother. Declare 2010 a tax holiday year for individuals and see what happens, to repeat your words, since we aren't going to pay off this debt anyway. Who cares indeed.

Re: First they said sell Euro bonds, few hours later they ...

Just to pile on here, remember when George Soros talked about how gold was a big bubble, at the very same time he was later revealed to have been buying more gold? Then after this was pointed out to him, he (lamely) explained that everyone knows the best time to invest in something is when its in a bubble. There's also Buffet and his Goldman investment - first derivatives are weapons of financial mass destruction, and now? Not a peep.

Everyone with a big book talks with a keen awareness of their book. The Chinese have a very, very big book and from what I can tell about their operations from outside observation, they are not stupid people. And one more thing: egregious, public misconduct in the Chinese government service is occasionally punishable by death. I'm guessing that pronouncements of an impending euro bond liquidation by the Chinese Government has a clear, explainable purpose within that government that goes beyond the simple statement of intent. "Yes Comrade, we just wanted to send a message to those guys in the Spanish government they'd better buckle down on that austerity program or we'll sell their bonds so hard that ECB printing press won't be able to print fast enough to soak them all up. A few hours later, message having been delivered, we denied it all of course."

Of course.

GS development

9:44:31 PM
The Goldman Sachs Group Inc Company to push for settlement with SEC on smaller charge - FT
- Says that a plea to a smaller charge is in company's interest because it would reduce the possibility of a lawsuit by investors.
- Citing Bernstein Research suggesting the company will try to settle by paying $250M, compensate investors' exposure to Abacus with a payout of $370M.

Interesting...

the weight-loss market just became a little more competitive.... http://kdka.com/health/FDA.warnings.Alli.2.1719289...

mr mortgage latest report

Mark Hanson's latest public report is out! (How I miss his old breathless youtube videos, they were awesome).

Main point:
Foreclosure pipeline, at April's record liquidation pace, is 8 years long.

Some interesting factoids:
* servicers are assigning more foreclosure resales to real estate brokers in April than in all of Q1 combined
* the sum of all loan mod programs on the market today is not letting any air out of the massive distress loan (shadow inventory) bubble - more loans are entering distress than leaving
* two of the nation’s top four servicers have opened the flood gates beginning in March. And the GSE’s, who led the Foreclosure charge higher beginning in Feb, are in property liquidation mode, which could force all the big GSE servicers to quickly follow suit on their own portfolios

Read his post at: http://mhanson.com/blog

NOTE: this is old information - his clients have had this for probably 30 days now, so its important to pick your short entry position with care. Assuming this makes you bearish on home prices, of course. :)

Note also, the release of this information, after his clients have (presumably) already taken their positions in the market, can only benefit them. Mr. Market, acting as is its usual wont, may well decide to rally homebuilders on this information due to a surplus of shorts...

Re: mr mortgage latest report

And, of course, the Euro ' debt crisis ' has everything to do with the low rates, and not HB&B trying to dump inventory !!.. http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Mortgage-rates-are-b...

All things shall pass ?

saw this at messg. board... I have never been a big reader of prophecy, but Mother Earth can only take so much... http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revela...

Ageas offloads European bonds

Ageas, the Belgian insurance group formerly known as Fortis Holding, has offloaded €4.8bn ($5.9bn) of southern European government bonds in just 11 days in an effort to reassure investors over the quality of its investment portfolio.

Shares in the company closed up 14.42 per cent at €2.13, as Ageas said it had sold €1.7bn of Greek bonds, €2.1bn of Italian bonds, €900m of Portuguese bonds and €100m of Spanish paper in the two weeks ending last Friday.

Re: First they said sell Euro bonds, few hours later they ...

Vad,

Great analogy!

I once was called by a CFO about my bill for his company's slide presentation.

"Why is your bill more than double the photographer's bill when he took the pictures and made the slides?"

After explaining the many hours of consultation, presenting the layouts and making the requested changes, actually arranging all the products and finally OKing the "shutter click" — he paid my bill.

After that I had the photographer bill me directly and only sent a single total.

Later (same company & computer templates) they began using a secretary to do their presentations. After an annual meeting with a pathetic video I was asked, "Now that it is so easy to do graphics that mt secretary can do them (he didn't mention her result), we were wondering why you can't do them for the same price we pay her."

I replied, "Well, assuming talent is of no value and forty years experience doesn't count — I will do your CEO's job for half what you are paying him."

I continued to do much of their work until they left the country — for even cheaper labor.

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