Morning Call [7:19am ET]
The shocker in the market this week has been the impact of a crashing Euro, and rising US Dollar. A couple weeks ago I wrote in the blog how I could foresee Euro weakness to 1.25, and possibly even 1.20, and now that possibility is being openly discussed.
With the stronger Dollar, there has been great pressure on Crude Oil contracts, partly because interest rates are going to rise soon and economic growth could stumble.
It’s always interesting to me to see how equity markets from one part of the world can head off in opposite directions, turning on a dime, taking the lead of the currency and bond traders, and then afterwards trailing the media distributed spin.
Asia-Pacific equity markets were crushed today. The Shanghai Composite was broadly beaten down, from start to finish, a finish that was down more than -4.1%. Japan got back to work following the Golden Holiday and needed to arbitrage the big losses of Japanese stocks in other markets and balance the shifting mood of international traders, which is more negative than last week. By the afternoon session in India, however, there was an improving picture.
As the world turns.
By the time, the sun rose over Europe, the picture that emerged was a tad less gloomy.
Probably the best graphical illustration of the debt crisis in Europe was this one produced by the New York Times.
Something to think about.
Have a great day.
CTA Trading Desk Post-Close Report
A “typo” supposedly led to a 16 billion dollar sell order rather than the proper amount of 16 million being executed. Do you really believe a firm spending hundreds of millions on computer programming could be so careless as to not have a failsafe blocking mechanism in place to prevent a trade of this magnitude ever getting through the system?
With the chaos of the day – the German parliamentary vote on aid for Greece and the pending release of the US unemployment report – making projections for tomorrow’s trade is a fool’s game.
The equity market is still an accident waiting to happen as the situation in Europe will remain unresolved regardless of the vote Friday. Any early morning bounce up towards S&P 1180 will attract eager selling with traders clearly rattled by the erratic price behavior today.
From the early February low of 1045 to the April high of 1220, the S&P gained 175 points so the 618 retracement area of 1111 makes sense for buyers to test the waters. Possible lower target areas if prices are under siege tomorrow: the low today (1065), the Feb low (1045) and the .382 retracement of the entire run off the March 2009 lows (1008) are logical levels to anticipate demand.
The VIX spiked to a high of 40.71, an extremely high number indicating a full-blown panic, as did the +5.86% intraday surge in US bond prices. A lot of hot air came out of the stock market today but many, many unresolved issues still lurk just beneath the surface. Given the speed at which prices are moving, stops must be used to protect capital and size should be reduced as well.
Let somebody else be the hero and try to catch the bottom; allow the price action around support to tell you if demand is soaking up all excess supply. On whatever time frame one trades, there needs to be a clearly defined pattern of 3 to 4 higher bottoms and higher tops before a tradable bottom can be identified.
Let’s be careful out there.
Have a good evening.
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Comments
Cara 100 Ratings Changes
Good morning.
KGC - Downgraded to Hold @ Deutsche
New Coverage:
JNPR - ThinkEquity Initiates with a Hold
SNDK - Sterne Agee Initiates with a Buy. PT = $50
The shocker
While I agree the fall of the euro has been a surprise, to me the biggest shock is just how well gold has done in the face of a rising dollar. Perhaps a month ago we were thinking that the buck at 85 would mean gold near 1000, but since the Greek thing started, gold has decoupled from the euro and risen on it's own, right alongside the buck.
How long will this continue? And how much better will gold do when the sovereign defaults issue comes to land in the US. The folks at consumer metrics are predicting a 3Q double dip based on their data - GDP drop of around -1,5%. Will the US still win the least-ugly contest when that becomes more apparent?
I guess for now it's dogpile on the euro and watch the buck continue to move up.
Note support trendline in SPX in weekly time frame
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_H2DePAZe2gA/S-HUEi4EImI/...
It holds until it doesn't. So if you're a bull or a bear with a dollar in the market right now, you have to ask yourself - are you feeling lucky?
...well, are you? :P
from Jesses:
http://jessescrossroadscafe.blogspot.com/
Re: The shocker
Dave,
You're not the only one who's mystified by gold's strength.
Here, in DENSA land, I always thought that a rising dollar was a clue to short gold. Guess everything I know, or thought I knew, is wrong.
I remain amazed.
Regards,
BH
Re: The shocker
No shock, fully expected, though not the timing of course - and I hardly expected the eurozone to collapse first, nor this soon.
Janszen of iTulip has perhaps the best non-goldbuggish handle on what gold is (and is not) imho:
Questioning Fashionable Financial Advice
Gold - September 2001
http://www.itulip.com/gold.htm
As to what a US sovereign debt crisis might be like, try this:
A glimpse into financial hell
http://ftalphaville.ft.com/blog/2010/05/04/218716/...
"Alan Ruskin has peered into the abyss of a US sovereign debt crisis to see what the world might look like. Unsurprisingly, it’s not a nice place.
. . . "
Re: The shocker
Nice article, ty. This sentence can be applied to much more than gold:
"conspiracy theories ... provide much needed intellectual relief from the challenges of dealing with a lot of complexity and ambiguity."
I like it very much
Pentagon graph by NYT - Where is the U.S debt component...
...owed to china and others.
so we went from dot-com, to housing/credit, then to sovereign debt bubbles.
Cara 100 Update
POT - Upgraded to Hold @ TD Newcrest based on valuation.
Re: The shocker
Vad,
These words from Charles Shultz apply.
Linus: "No problem is so big or so complicated that it can't be run away from."
I also liked these quotes from Shultz:
Linus: "There's no heavier burden than a great potential."
Lucy: "Each generation must be able to blame the previous generation for its problems. It doesn't solve anything, but it makes us feel better."
Clearinghouse
http://ronsen.blogspot.com/
Couple of new columns
1) from son Conor on sabbatical, the implications of closing of the Greek bond market (how hedge funds are likely to view this)
2) my morning missive with click throughs to a Rogoff commentary on European sovereign debt and a thought-provoking commentary from a big fund letter concerning the inflation-deflation debate...
Have a good one.
Ron
27% increase for an IPO's 1st day - sounds bubbly to me
and LOL, Goldman Sachs making out like bandits in the process. A new week, a new richest person in China. Blow, baby, Blow!
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/china-business/...
Cara 100 Update
CSCO - target boosted at Credit Suisse to $35 from $32 on expectations of a strong 3Q10. Ongoing improvement in enterprise network trends. Outperform rating.
KGC - PT Lowered from $23 to $21 @ RBC. Sector Perform
VALE - estimates upped at Morgan Stanley through 2011. Company is seeing higher prices in the ferrous division. Overweight rating and $38 price target.
Paulson (Weasel) talking at banking hearing.
http://bit.ly/98jf51
the master of triple talk.
He's been tanning.
Re: The shocker
LOL, those are good
Re: The shocker
Here are a couple more which seem to fit nicely —
"Get your facts first, then you can distort them as you please." Mark Twain
"Politics is the ability to foretell what is going to happen tomorrow, next week, next month and next year. And to have the ability afterwards to explain why it didn't happen." Winston Churchill
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good morning... tobyt, good observation on kerx, from last week(s).. I should have gone short on onxx after I sold at $ 29.00, but could not make myself... blame it on sentiment, which, of course, is not allowed in trading ! anyway, was scanning through upcoming events, and arna still keeps popping up... vvus will be getting grilled soon, as the others... keep thinking ' safety/efficacy issues..been flying below rader in the $ 3's.. worth watching.... jmhao, of course.
So as london closes...
let's see how U.S markets act.
Weaker Euro
Thinking about the impact of a weaker Euro.
A few excerpts from Credit Suisse report:
“The winners are (European) companies with transactional exposure (i.e. more dollar revenues than costs). Companies with high transactional exposure and upside on HOLT®: Porsche, Ericsson, BMW, Volkswagen, Siemens, SAP.
The following names have more than 30% of their revenue from the US and are cheap on HOLT: Fresenius, Ahold, Roche, Sanofi-Aventis, Nestle, SAP.
From a sector stance, drugs are the biggest dollar earners. Autos and capital goods and wireless equipment have the biggest transactional exposure.
The losers from a stronger dollar tend to be those areas of the market that cost in dollars: some general retailers. Banks also tend to underperform when the Euro weakens. Clearly US companies with high European exposure lose. The following
US companies have more than 20% of revenues from Europe and are expensive on HOLT: Ford Motor, Anixter, Rpm International.
Ultimately the weaker Euro is likely to lead to much more reflation in Germany - with Germany being the second biggest exporter globally . . “
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NVS looks oversold with daily (10.78) RSI 7 and weekly RSI 7 (16.32); monthly in the 40’s.
VE looks interesting also with RSI 7 d @ 12.36 and w @ 23.53; m is in the 30’s. FWIW, VE goes ex-dividend May 11, paying annual div of $ 1.6294, yielding @ 5.46%.
It's healthy for the market to take a step back. Some of this currency related selloff looks like throwing out the baby with the bathwater. Of course, when the market tanks everything goes out the window. It still may be too early yet. No sense catching knives. That said, doing a little nibbling on above. (FD: prior NVS position u/w)
As always, DOYDD.
Strictly for the buy & hold crowd - THC
I really like Tenet Healthcare (THC). In their most recent Q, they reported their best margin in 7 years; their free cash flow is dramatically improving YOY and they are likely to benefit in the coming Q's from an NOL tax carry-forward. By my back of the envelope calculation, their 2010 P/E is around 10. Their forward P/E is around 8.5.
They are making strategic acquisitions of outpatient facilities. My favorite line from the recent conference call was "Because when I look at your numbers the way they work, I have trouble keeping them down." (Sherry Skolnick of CRT Capital who has followed Tenet all through the scandal years). Technically, the stock is really respecting the weighted 200DMA and there's been some recent institutional buying.
They are the 2nd largest for profit hospital in the US and seem to be at the convergence of several long-term positive trends: (a) an aging population; (b) a rise in outpatient procedures and/or shorter hospital stays; and (c) health care reform legislation virtually eliminates the uncollected expense previously associated with treating the uninsured.
The stock is sub $6/share a here and although the balance sheet still needs work, I think the worst is behind the company. If you have a 3-5 year time horizon, I really like this one for long term growth and share price appreciation. Its always good to have a little health care exposure in one's portfolio. If cash flows get healthy enough, they might even re-introduce their dividend before the health care reform legislation goes into effect.
I appreciate any thoughts on THC if there are any out there!
This time is about Italy
Today, "they" are hitting the biggest target: Italy.
The Italian index is losing more than 4% now (banks and telecoms are the worst shares).
An apple a day keeps the doctor away now is:
A downgrade a day keeps the Euro away!
Europe is weak, but US and its big powers (Moodys and so on) were succesfull in turning the attention away from the dollar.
Amazing Gold Strength
Despite the usual NY takedowns and exceptional USD strength, gold seems to be bouncing back in fine fashion. Silver has been bludgeoned though. Most interesting that when the USD reached its lows near the 72 level in Spring 2008, gold was trading around the $900 level. One can only imagine how high gold would move now if the USD revisited its previous lows? Rumour has it that the boyz are desperate to cover at least some portion of their enormous silver short positions prior to next week's bankster meeting between the IMF and SNB.
Major strength!
Why US Bank Preferred Sell off?
As the flight to safety, away from Euro and into the us$ continues, the US ^TNX is now at 3.5 or so.
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/bc?s=^TNX&t=5d&l=on&z=l&q=c&c=
Can someone please explain why the US Bank preferred shares are selling-off? I would have thought that Bank Preferreds that pay nice 7-9% dividends should be safer and more attractive?
Best way to make more money than ever dreamed...
figure out who is writing the scripts for CNBC, then follow their trade....
Greece developments
11:54:09 AM
*REPORTEDLY GREEK AUSTERITY BILL WINS PASSAGE
- the vote is ongoing but it has received enough votes for passage
Re: This time is about Italy
HI Lelic,
Wouldn't it seem likely that EWI
would go to it's March 2009 low
of 9 1/2 which is about 34% lower
than where it's now trading?
Oh Oh
Gold's rise is accelerating just as the DOW's fall intensifies. This definitely warrants a call on Obama's red phone. We will see if the emergency measures soon to be implemented by the boyz are successful.
Panic time!
WATG
Now have a full position in WATG at $9.68 average...was waiting for this dip to take a position. Stock is trading at 9 times this years earnings and earnings should grow 25%+ for the next several years as the China auto market continues to grow. They also have about 1/4 of their market cap in cash after backing out debt.
In addition to long term growth trends for the China auto market, auto markers are looking to the China auto parts makers to reduce costs:
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601209&si...
I consider this a great long term buying opportunity. The stock is at the same level it was in June 2009 when we were barely emerging from the credit crisis and when earnings were about 40% lower than they are now.
Re: WATG
Not specific to WATG: John Murphy has a general principle of trading in the direction of weekly stochastics. That sounds right...
Re: Oh Oh
Hi All - Nice sell off again today, but tomorrow will be the same run up we have seen in the past before Treasury auction week. The regime needs a good auction next week and the Treasury yields need to climb off of 5 month lows to insure the auction proceeds favorably IMHO. Happy Trading
Safe canadian play
as investors turn to safe sectors. Excellent earnings today.
SXCI
Re: Greece developments
That gives us a new definition of a "Golden Fleece." Just a backdoor bailout of Herr Von Umlaut...D-Bank and others. I have always been under the silly notion that if you make a bad loan, you eat it. When they get too big to flail, shoot them.
SPQR
VXX outperforming ultrashorts this week.
VXX is outperforming everything this week. vs QID, SQQQ, GLD, UGL.
http://bit.ly/bhS6qu
Geithner babbling on C-Span
http://bit.ly/ak2nSK
Party Hats
Are we suppose to get out party hats for gold at 1200 ?
Ok Moving a bit of my LT Trading account into SPY
at close...moving 33% of my account into SPY at the close. This is the selloff I was looking for, but I want to leave some in cash in case we drop another 5 to 7%. I believe there is a chance we see a selloff to the 200 DMA, but it's too hard to tell because with the jobs report tomorrow there is a chance we could have a big bounce if the news is good.
The market is now down 7% from Monday's highs.
Dow down 423 points
AM I DREAMIN?
Um. Someone call GS and tell em to turn off their algo computers
dow now down 518 points. wow
Unbelievable!
down 995 as of 2:47pm
has anyone ever seen this before?
first time for me. been a bad day trying to catch bounces. can see why now. IB just frozen, nothings working. taking a screen shot of this day for printing and framing.
wanted to catch F with a big shares for bounce trade to fix the hole I'm in, has been impossible. IB can't handle what's happening. Big hole in my account today
IS some country defaulting or
IS some country defaulting or something, THis is 1987 like
Broken?
Market feels "broken"
No idea what prices are
I can't even log on to Fidelity
Re: has anyone ever seen this before?
Just an ordinary panic. They happen. A good rule of thumb is wait til the third day after a panic day to buy back. Stops were blown out. Many more will be adjusted tonight.
The margin clerks finally have something to do.
SPQR
feels like Truman Show
The "Creator" walked away from the control desk for a moment...
bid/ask spreads on what i was watching went huge, and then fixed itself
"Senate leader support breaking up banks, auditing fed"
Is the headline. could it have been partially that?
http://huff.to/cpqaXW
Sold
Went to cash yesterday except physical gold. Whew. Bill has been warning us that this was going to happen. He rarely misses on the big picture. Thank you once again, Bill. You're the Trading Wizard!
Good luck to all.
Re: has anyone ever seen this before?
Hi All - How is "Hope and Change" working for the masses today? Happy Trading
Re: has anyone ever seen this before?
permit me to clarify - paper trading account. I'm learning the worse in my apprenticeship, without greater damage than that to my ego. great time to be alive.
Re: has anyone ever seen this before?
As of 12:15 Pacific Schwab trading is hosed. I have been in cash for about 2 weeks, but just yesterday and today nibbled a little on VZ, INTC and EXC.
Computers gone bonkers
Futures market is moving VERY fast. Faster than humans can comprehend at times. I don't think it got this crazy even in the fall of 2008. I see some bars where it was moving $300 per contract per Second in the NQ. fwiw, I'd turned off the charts around 10AM pacific with a small profit before it went nuts.
No way I'm taking part in this, that'd be gambling not trading. Besides, the risk of the trade software locking up is very high.
Are they Gonna Shut Down the Trading Floor to halt the SLIDE :)
3:22pBREAKING
NYSE: No techical glitches as market declined
Re: has anyone ever seen this before?
Ross - I hear you about that rule of thumb but I'm stepping in a little bit here at the close. I set aside cash for a downturn like this and bought too early in the day. I imagine people that happened to catch some of these crazy trades are sipping cognac.
BBVA
Isn't this on the GS Sustain list. Has been hammered since mid April.
Re: has anyone ever seen this before?
It may be a one off, TF. My best guess is that monday will be an interesting day. Percentage wise, this was a pipsqueak compared to 1987. I'm hunkered down just watching the TED spread.
Funny that the Greek people are rioting when the Gothic Hun and Gaulios are getting fleeced. The Hun are not ammused. EURO... RIP.
SPQR
Re: BBVA
Major bank in Spain. Parachutes provided.
Re: has anyone ever seen this before?
The Whole world will turn into GOLD now as the TRUSTED alternative Currency until this whole debts in the world disappear. GOLD is going to 1650 in the next few months, perhaps before year end and the DOWN Trend has officially started. This is not going to be a 10% correction as some would argue. This is ONLY the beginning for the market down trend. Basically the reverse picture of the day March 9, 2009.
More Europeans defaults will hit the wire in the next few weeks and people will turn around and look at the US and say hummm, the US has more debt than any country in the whole world and will start an aggressive attack against the US dollar next after the Euro Currency collapse. We may very likely see another stimulus package approved to save the US banks again when they go under yet again but lets face it. QE will work only short time but not forever. Just look at JAPAN in recession for 19 yrs and learn from that experience, will you ...
Feel free to comment if you like.
Stop loss
Today was a perfect day to illustrate the hazards of stop loss orders. When the game is rigged to this extent, they do not work. I suspect today's action was co-ordinated effort by HB&B to take out the stop loss orders. Those doing God's work made out like bandits today. For us, it may have been a good day, had they allowed us to trade.
Re: has anyone ever seen this before?
EDIT: deleted, duplicate comment
Stop loss
Today was a perfect day to illustrate the hazards of stop loss orders. When the game is rigged to this extent, they do not work. I suspect today's action was co-ordinated effort by HB&B to take out the stop loss orders. Those doing God's work made out like bandits today. For us, it may have been a good day, had they allowed us to trade.
Re: BBVA
I am just curious why it's on the list when Spain is another (possibly next) domino in the EU. Kind of like when C came out with the "short financials" call a while back... just trying to peak behind the curtain.
Re: has anyone ever seen this before?
Speaking of Japan. The yen was up 7% today for a brief moment. Carry trade anyone...?
(+4% right now)
NTRI
Pretty much my only non-PM position that was in the green today. More impressively, it seemed to ignore the afternoon crash entirely.
Hard to believe the spike down in PG, especially considering it is one of the most liquid stocks in the market. I'm not so sure that move from $60 to $40 could occur without some exchange glitch happening.
Reason for the drop?
First posted at 12:41pm
Reid Backs Breaking Up Banks, Auditing Fed
First Posted: 05- 6-10 12:41 PM | Updated: 05- 6-10 01:41 PM
Harry Reid will make sure that an amendment to break up megabanks and cap their size comes up for a vote, the Senate majority leader said. He added that he was leaning heavily toward voting for the amendment, cosponsored by Sens. Sherrod Brown (D-Ohio) and Ted Kaufman (D-Del.).
Reid will also support an amendment from Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.) that will authorize an audit of the Federal Reserve, he said.
On Wednesday, Reid was noncommittal when asked by reporters at a briefing about the two major amendments. In an interview in his office with the Huffington Post on Thursday, Reid went further when asked if he'd considered the amendments since the briefing.
"I'll probably vote for it," Reid said. Does that mean it'll come up for a vote?
"Oh, it's going to come up. I'll make sure it comes up," said Reid of the Brown-Kaufman amendment. "Unless my staff convinces me differently. But what I know about it, I'll vote for it."
Reid said he has not been lobbied by the White House to oppose either Brown-Kaufman or the Sanders amendment. "No one's talked to me," he said.
Economists largely agree that the only way to end the bailout of big banks is to reduce banks to a size small enough so that if they fail, they don't bring down the entire system.
Reid's support gives a major boost to two amendments that have surged in the past few days and are now within a shot of passage. Brown-Kaufman is "among the most deeply dreaded by Wall Street," the New York Times wrote Thursday.
Reid's backing gives Brown-Kaufman two powerful backers. On Tuesday, Reid second in command, Majority Whip Dick Durbin (D-Ill.), said on the Senate floor he was backing the measure.
"I would say that [of] all the many amendments which will be offered, this is clearly a game changer," said Durbin. "I am supportive of this amendment, even though I know that some of my friends in the banking -- some of my friends in the banking industry won't be happy with that. What they're talking about is dealing with the concentration of wealth and the concentration of economic power to a level which can literally bring the economy down. That's what we went through leading into this recession. That's what led to the massive taxpayer bailout. And that's what the Brown-Kaufman amendment addresses foursquare."
UPDATE: Sen. Michael Bennet (D-Colo.), who had previously voted against a previous iteration of an audit of the Fed, will support the Sanders amendment, his spokesman Adam Bozzi tells HuffPost. Meanwhile, Greg Sargent reports that Sen. Al Franken (D-Minn.) will vote for Kaufman-Brown.
http://tinyurl.com/2bynged
Wow. the last 776 down day I missed it, I was at Seaworld...
vacationing. But not today! I will never forget today. ever.
I was actually in a meeting at work. got a "alert" and popped open my iphone, and saw triple digit jumps all the way down to -500 dow.
I quickly ran back to my pc to make sure my eyes were not deceiving me, and i was not dead.
Unbelievable move down. and somewhat of a recovery.
Reason For Market Plunge
Today's action is somewhat similar to what transpired when the banksters "prompted" Congress to pass the TARP bill back in Sept/Oct 2008...
Now, let’s talk about today, the drop was NOT a “fat fingered” mistake. The backdrop was set for a crash with the movement in currencies over the past several days. Today Harry Reid made a statement that he was going to support legislation to break up the big banks and that it and the audit the Fed bill would make it to a vote. KABOOM. The central banks who own all the computers and all the stock hit the sell button. The lesson? Don’t mess with the people who control the money. This is yet another historic event where the central bankers are flat out blackmailing the people in order to get their way. The message is, “keep your hands off or we crater the markets.”
http://tinyurl.com/2bbef3o
Reports it was 1 person's finger that cause it. I call Bull shit
http://huff.to/daasOu
CNBC is the original source so i find it hard to believe. they are claiming:
"MARKET, STOCK MARKET, SELLOFF, DOW, TRADING ERROR, CITIGROUP, TRADING ERROR
CNBC.com
| 06 May 2010 | 04:21 PM ET
A human trading error at a major firm was the root cause of Thursday's sudden, 9 percent selloff in U.S. stocks, sources told CNBC.
Multiple sources said a trader entered the letter "b"—as in "billion"—when he or she meant to type "m," for "million," shortly before 2:47 p.m. New York time.
U.S. stocks plunged suddenly, briefly by more than 9 percent, before pulling back to a near 3 percent drop, as investor worries mounted that Greece's debt problems could spread.
Sources also told CNBC that the firm in question is Citigroup.
Citigroup said it has no evidence of a bad trade but it is investigating the situation.
The New York Stock Exchange reported there were no computer glitches in its systems Thursday.
Separately, Nasdaq said it was working with other major markets to review the market activity that occurred between 2:00 p.m. and 3:00 p.m.
© 2010 CNBC.com"
Re: Um. Someone call GS and tell em to turn off their algo ...
well you get your answer here..
looks like someone accidentally kick on the plug...
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&si...
PG vs IWM
If you plot IWM and PG on the same chart for today, you will see that IWM was heavily selling off well before PG did. PG is not part of the Russel 2000 (chart: http://shockedinvestor.blogspot.com)
Re: Reports it was 1 person's finger that cause it. I call ...
what crap is this... the volume doesn't even indicate a billion turnover...
Re: Reports it was 1 person's finger that cause it. I call ...
it was cnbc. so take for what its worth.
I mean c'mon. They are trying to say that 1 trader can press with his/her magic finger a trade to sell 1B, without any safety checks? not even a pop up on their station that reads "Are you sure you want to sell 1B shares of XYZ? Are you really sure?"
Re: Reason For Market Plunge
The TED spread increase 24% today to a level not seen since Nov. 09. You can track it on Bloomies.
News doesn't make the market, the market makes the news and we will know in the fulness of time. But something rots in Euroland.
Give me 400 traders with a 2 trillion book and an infinite call on the country's cash box and I can show you some REAL fireworks.
Todays market reminded me of a scene from the movie 'ZULU' where the Colour Sergeant is trying to calm the nerves of his boy soldiers and keeps repeating 'steady Lads, steady. Wait for the order. Steady now.' while 10,000 Zulu beat their shields...You can smell the sweat.
Re: Reports it was 1 person's finger that cause it. I call ...
I think more likely than a fat finger, it could very well have been an orchestrated take down by some of the deeper pockets. The strategy may have been to cause major disruptions in a few of the most widely held stocks (PG, etc) to help incite a broader panic as the "stable" part of the portfolio triggers major losses. This leads to major stop losses being taken out, margin calls, and the panic selling of less liquidly traded stocks.
Bernanke still fighting the Fed Audit
Here is my own fictional conspiracy theory. the bail out Billions went straight to the Fed's 200+ traders to manipulate the market, and to GS.
Thus the upheaval of opening themselves for audit.
Today's action is proof that mom and pop can no longer entrust their life savings to this crooked system of buying stocks for the long term and trusting ever word from hb&b/broker/news or even their govt.
Re: Broken?
Ron,
As you surmised a couple days ago, we've been making money this week. I won't comment more than that.
Somebody asked if I have seen anything like this. Absolutely; in fact, many people remember that Oct 19, 1987 was about three times worse.
Sure buy-and-hold was up +37.0% for the 52-weeks ending Monday. It was smashed much more than -37.0% in the 52-weeks prior to that. It was also down -6.2% in just the past three days.
light-warped playing field
Fidelity, et.al., frozen.... computers don't work? The big boys with their lightspeed proprietary super computers didn't have much of a problem executing, from the looks of it. Grinding up most of the day traders who tried to play against the house. Fodder. I think there's more to come.
Re: Reports it was 1 person's finger that cause it. I call ...
gc,
Actually volume soared from a couple minutes before 2:00pm ET on the NASDAQ and S&P 500.
If then scenario - what do I do from here?
In honor of Vad, I am going to try to refocus on next moves.
I sold my SQQQ near high, into that crazy down move. Only wish i had more chips on the table.
So removing the cause of the plunge out of my Psyche, how do i move fwd.
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if we gap up, i will wait until we meet past recent support/resistance levels, and lean short and buy VXX
if we gap and open down, I'll buy some qqqq and vxx for a day trade.
if we open flat and slowly keep going down, i'll wait for a relief rally and lean short and buy vxx
otherwise i am cash.
VIX Call Options
Guys - I mentioned a couple of weeks ago that someone was buying a ton of June 40 calls on the VIX. Well, those people either knew something or they had a lot of foresight. Either way, those people probably closed their positions.
I know a lot of people have different views than I do in terms of the markets but I have to think that this is the beginning of an opportunity to get into the markets for a trade at least. You have to imagine that on a day like this a lot of shorts hit their targets and people got stopped out. Just look at the volume and the huge price spike down.
Re: If then scenario - what do I do from here?
NYUGrad,
Before deciding on a near-term action, I think you first need to see the reaction to tomorrow's US National Jobs Report, and the goings-on in Athens.
Re: Reason For Market Plunge
Dead-nuts on, my friend.
When these guys are audited, the fallout of what is discovered and made public will rewrite 20th century history as we know it... taking down several nations worth of prominent historical figures/politicos/ and pundits along the way. The veil of plausible deniability will be torn from even the most ardent of spinmeisters and historical revisionists. The swell of anticipated populist animosity around the planet for these deceptions will make the greek riots seem quaint.
It will all come out in the end, I am confident.... but the stench of this financial cesspool leaves even the staunchest of our leadership nauseated at the prospect of the repercussions of cleaning it up. They don't know how to do it without inciting a lynch mob and they don't want to get themselves burned in the process. Most of them are quilty, if by nothing else than association... and many by a lot more than association. What has been going on with the controllers of our central banks and our financial markets represents the actions of only one branch of mankind's planetary government. There are many, many other issues behind the scenes that mankind must also confront. If chaos erupts, then our politicos' paymasters will proclaim justification in their clamor for the continuation of clandestine control.... the future for which they have meticulously planned includes conduits for the initiation and implementation of martial law, concentration camps, cessation of citizenry rights, and the implementation of an increasingly authoritarian police-state regimes. Their edict and mandate has always been that the masses must be clandestinely governed as they are incapable of civil self-discipline and comportment.
Mankind's collective denial, distraction, and ignorance allowed this crap to fester and enabled our leadership to play loose with the truth and our lives for generations. As such, we have to realize that part of the bargain of cleaning house and healing is an admission that we are not entirely innocent in all of this. In many ways we are confronting ourselves and what comes to pass on this planet in the near future will be a direct reflection of who and what we truly are. Chaos and calamity, or sober reflection with mature adjudication and resolution... progression and normalization of the police state, or a return to individual rights and freedoms... reclamation and implementation of repressed technologies, or continued dependence on destructive fossil fuels with attendant unnecessary plauges, starvation, and misery. The choice is ours to make and and now is the time to make it.
I will suggest that we all contemplate forgiveness. We can embolden those in positions of authority to make the hard decisions that are in the interests of the masses. We can encourage timely disclosures in a relatively painless,peaceful and meaningful environment. We can repair rapidly, with intention, and in relative harmony.
Back under my rock.
Animal Spirits
After today mine are all saying to buy the yellow brick road. (anyone else feeling the same?)
However, being suspicious of these kinds of what I believe are massively shared decision-making sensations and resulting actions, I expect after the building up that there will become a massive tearing down in the price of the shiny yellow stuff where somebody other than myself will be making out like a bandit.
Oh, who to trust in such things?...
FFFFFFraud
In China they would take you into the street and shoot you on the spot.
You think the action in Procter & Gamble was weird, check out the nosedive on Accenture, which plummeted from above $40 at 2:47 p.m. to $0.01 at 2:48 p.m.
http://blogs.wsj.com/marketbeat/2010/05/06/accentu...
I know as one of my IPO's FFHL Fuwei Films (Holdings) Co. Top guy was given that this year from the Chinese courts for his part in the IPO.
NYSE Arca / NASDAQ to cancel some trades
NYSE Arca to cancel multiple
NEW YORK, May 6 (Reuters) - The New York Stock Exchange said on Thursday it would cancel all trades on its all-electronic trading platform NYSE Arca that were executed between 14:40 and 15:00 ET and that were more than 60 pct away from their last print at 14:40.
Stocks | Regulatory News | Global Markets | Financials
The move follows a similar decision by the Nasdaq after major U.S. indexes plunged 9.0 percent in afternoon trade before recovering to finish over 3.0 percent down. Traders suspect a trading glitch exacerbated the fall.
(Reporting by Edward Krudy)
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN0614132620100506
Re: NYSE Arca / NASDAQ to cancel some trades
Translation:
"Some connected people lost money to non-connected people. We are cancelling those trades. All other trades will stay as is."
Flight to quantity
At the depths of the credit crisis, the inverse Lehman 20 yr TBT traded around $36. Today it traded as low as $38 and closed at $40. If what we are seeing is just an aftershock of 08-09 liquidity crisis (it could be the long awaited solvency crisis) then for us trend traders, it might be something to consider. Best guess (and that is exactly what it is) the risk reward could be $4 potential loss to $20 potential gain over the next 6 months.
The stagflationist in me sees the 10yr over 15% before sanity returns.
Just a thought. FD: I do not own any but hope to in the next 2 trading sessions. I might add that it is quite liquid.
gold, in euros
Once again I have to point at gold priced in euros. Its gone vertical. This is what goldbugs expected to happen in 2008 - people fleeing to gold in times of trouble. And these last few months, gold has not disappointed. Today it was up 2.82%, while the buck was up only 0.87%.
Here are a few things I'm thinking about.
The crisis in europe has moved from banks to sovereigns. This took two years, but now this crisis will have to play itself out - much like subprime had to. Banks can be bailed out by states, but euro sovereigns are a different story. The only source for a bailout is the ECB. The ECB could print money and buy bonds, or the EU might figure out a way for the overly-indebted sovereigns to restructure. My guess is, money printing, otherwise they'd end up taking bank losses on Spain, Portugal, Italy, and Greece. So - money printing it will be. It may start out limited, more of an engineered short squeeze on Greek bonds. Might it actually be temporarily euro-positive if the ECB decides to print money, grab some Greek bonds, cause a massive rebound, sell the bonds at a profit, and then announce a restructuring?
However, eventually the ECB will need to support all of the PIGS, or else the euro region will break apart. Germany will have to choose between the EU or the status quo ante, and my guess is they'll choose EU, but the price will be a much stricter system of financial discipline. In the meantime, the Euro will be effectively devalued, which should help German manufacturers, hurt China and the US, and cause significant inflation in the euro region. Gold in euros will soar. But at the end of the day, the Germans will end up in charge - a political union under German terms.
So - a debt/banking crisis, becomes a sovereign crisis, and then it becomes a currency crisis followed by a default or devaluation.
Re: If then scenario - what do I do from here?
Yes indeed. Thx for the input. Prior to today's event, I want to preface that I was originally planning to sell all my SQQQ sometime today, which I did anyway, and reopen after the jobs data reaction Friday. But also mention that the jobs # will include the temp census workers, thus was expecting a sell the news positive number.
Now with this crazy session printed, I feel a relief rally will be more powerful in effect (not % gain) than any fudged govt data.
Meaning if we go up tmrw, the news will say it was the jobs showing recovery. But wouldn't the oversold condition be more powerful to cause a snap back?
Hope all is well in the Bahamas
:)
Re: Reason for the drop?
The SEC should be up ALL NIGHT if necessary investigating these trades that tanked the market. Where did they come from? It shouldn't be that freakin' hard to get to the bottom of it. But PLEASE don't insult us with this refund at 60%. How arbitrary is that! What banks do we need to riot on tomorrow to get some answers?
Speaking of setups and scenarios...
...I guess that $118.20 short trigger for SPY worked like charm, eh?
Mess redefined:
07:49 AM [NYX] Spokesperson: Euronext Lisbon trading suspended due to technical reasons; not known when trading will resume
14:47 *DOW MOVES BELOW 10,000 for the first time since Feb 12
3:11 PM
Procter & Gamble Co *NYSE INVESTIGATING P&G STOCK MOVE
- Note: P&G stock traded as low as $39.37 which coincided with the Dow move below 10,000 after trading above $60 for most of the day. Low price was printed on the Nasdaq.
- Note: P&G stock DOW weighting is approx 4.38%
- NOTE: ACN stock traded to $0.01 from trading most of the day above $41
- follow up: P&G spokesperson says they are looking into the matter. They note that trades below $56 came in electronic trade on the Nasdaq.
16:28 Nasdaq: Investigating potential 'erroneous' transactions between 2:40-3:00; participants should review their transactions
Re: Speaking of setups and scenarios...
No kidding, my man. Hope you made a mint today.
Re: Speaking of setups and scenarios.../ Crash suspended
Vad- Would appreciate hearing from you.
Here's my take-
(a) The market really did crash today.
(b) The post-mortem explanations are buffalo chips.
(c) ST buying/short-covering would be enough to explain the 'recovery.' Let's face it, bears were looking at unreal gains, and like all good traders, they tripped over themselves trying to lock those gains in. I mean, how long have they been waiting for any gains at all?
The remainder of the crash will unfold over the next few trading days.
Proctor trades won't count.
Proctor trades won't count. NYSE CEO expects ugly open.
http://m.cnbc.com/us_news/37001247/1
Re: Speaking of setups and scenarios.../ Crash suspended
I could add:
(d) Whole event shows just how fragile the market is after such an extended rally and how much fear is stocked under the surface.
(e) Technology giveth, technology taketh. Not a first time I see erroneous trades followed by prints being broken. Can be brutal on someone caught with trade initiated outside of cancellation time window and completed inside it (or the other way around). Happened a few years ago to one of my room members on WATG trade soon after it IPOed. As painful as it can be, NASDAQ rules provide for the definition of erroneous trade and possibility of it being canceled. Just a danger that comes with territory. I also knew a guy who hit an offer at $101 after market hours on $11 stock... was he happy to have his print canceled? You bet.
(f) Whatever happens next is simply another trading day (week, month). There are people who think they know or need to know what is going to happen. I don't. It doesn't prevent me from trading either.
Re: Speaking of setups and scenarios.../ Crash suspended
Let's give credit where it is due. The NYSE did an excellent job of real price level discovery. In time, dark pools and quantum so called liquidity providers will be 'tagged' and held accountable. Regulation, thy name is stability. I miss the Specialist system.
We are all algorithms now. Or at least algorithimized for fleecing purposes. Baa shepple, Baa.
SPQR
60% deviation ( or more ) cancelled
225 Nasdaq stocks' trades cancelled ...
Re: 60% deviation ( or more ) cancelled
or ' Canceled ' for US citizens !!
Re: Speaking of setups and scenarios.../ Crash suspended
I must say Vad, the most successful trading I've done over the past 6 months was day trading futures. The risk was strictly limited, there were no gaps down, stops worked great, everything was very controlled, and at the end of the day you could go relax and not worry about where things were going to go the next day.
PG and ACN
PG and ACN are just part of the problem... imagine all the ETFs involved... and derivatives...
Re: Speaking of setups and scenarios.../ Crash suspended
Dave,
for various reasons I prefer stocks but other than that I sign under each word you said. Risk control and exploiting familiar patterns constitute the difference between trading and gambling for me
Selling millions of shares
sent Wall Street computers in a tailspin today.
First some rogue trader at C hit the billion number instead of a million number........what crap is that? Is to big to fail the down fall to these unfree markets?
With all the selling going on, computers can't digest the erroneous numbers being feed to them when phantom shares are being sold along with issued shares. Put simply, a company has 1,000 shares underwritten by a to big to fail HB&B, sell orders come in for 1,500 shares at market, the wall street computers start looking for the extra 500 phantom shares and ends up pucking in it's mouth. Take the scenario times a couple thousand companies, and you have a major problem that all the lies in the world can't fix this unfix-able scam.
The truth be known, people are starting to question the GS hokas pokas, and realize GS isn't alone in the fraud being implemented on the working peoples retirement savings that are slowly but surely vanishing and being replaced by a quarterly pie chart that represents nothing but a big lie.
Where is the trillions of dollars of the working peoples monthly contributions gone? Your quarterly pie chart doesn't explain that, but you can rest assured it's gone.
It all works, until it doesn't anymore..........
Re: Selling millions of shares
bigwad1 says 'and realize GS isn't alone in the fraud'. That goes without saying, but I'm glad that you did. Time will tell who are friends of whom.
This slippery slope began when Merrill went public. ERISA was/is a cruel joke. Government, both Federable and Munisimple employees have been sold a bill of goods. Retire after 20-30 years? What hubris AND it was all pay as you go for the most part. Even if partially funded, the board or actuary who came up with 9% annual returns needs to be shackeled in some dark hole and fed maggots.
I think it was O'HENRY who first coined the term 'Banana Republic' when he tried to escape Texas justice by fleeing to Central America. I humbly offer the observation that we will become a nation of doublewide dwellers. A good wood stove, fatback, rice, dry beans and collards might get you another year down the road to perdition.
Morgan Stanley is next!!! Maybe Citi, I hope!
Bev's Chart of SPX
www.stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=$SPX&p=D&yr=0&mn=3&dy=0&id=p16046589605
Has anyone ever seen a shorter term chart as startling as this? Thanks to Bev for the live chart and BTW , have not heard from her in some time. Hello down under?
Re: Proctor trades won't count.
Trying to wrap my head around the announcements that many trades that occured between 2:40-3:00 PM ET will be cancelled by the exchange. If you were one of the lucky folks to purchase some blue chip stocks for pennies on the dollar between 2:40-3:00 PM and then you sold after 3:00 PM, do you now have a (perhaps underwater) short position that needs to be covered? That could cause some serious issues considering how much leverage you might have gained prior to the cancellation.
Imagine thinking for a bit that you made a lifetimes fortune in 5 minutes only to realize you have a big underwater short position? I'm not leaving it out of the realm of possibilities that we see a huge short covering gap up tomorrow. These markets are nauseating.
Re: Proctor trades won't count.
This is exactly what I meant when said: "Can be brutal on someone caught with trade initiated outside of cancellation time window and completed inside it (or the other way around)."
I've seen this happening. Not pretty. Case that I remember (not exact numbers) went like this: small stock went up sharply from $2 and showed great momentum; a trader bought breakout at $5 and sold at $7. Nice share size, too. Great trade? Yeah - only theu broke trades in the window that included his sell but not the buy, thus leaving him with long position at $5. Stock got halted, company said there was no material news... opened after the halt at $3.
Guy was furious, and rightly so. That was actual trading, not an erroneous print or fat finger mistake. If there was no reason for the spike, it's not exchange business. To illustrate the lack of consistency, NASDAQ never broke trades on UAUA when it dropped about 60% on old news reposted by mistake (never investigated whether it was honest mistake either).
Re: Reason For Market Plunge
I have a theory: anything jerking fast and hard on the money string will distract a lot of people from the one thing that is just too huge and horrible to contemplate playing out in the Gulf of Mexico, our own precious back yard. BP and all their bought-off safety regulators put in place by the previous oil happy adminstration's pals is so sickening we can hardly face another dead bird or turtle or swirl of sickly orange stuff over the 3500 square miles of ocean that will be dead for generations. Somebody switch cameras please! Our dying ecosystem is a far greater loss than some monetary dive of the DOW. So Exxon Mobil was taken down in the slide today --an ironic slip of BP's buddies with fat fingers playing with our heads or what?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/robert-f-kennedy-jr/...
Re: Proctor trades won't count.
Vad, I remember that UAUA trade. Some paper (Florida?) posted an old story about them filing BK that was old news and not true. That was back in the fast market days if I recall and trader types pounced on what was thought to be a dying quail. I owned AA as a hedge against $140 oil at the time.
It only goes to prove that media types need to be watched with a laugh track. There was a RAMBO a thon recently when a laugh tract was overlaid. It was genious funny. We need a laugh track download that we can overlay when Cramer speaks...
Re: Reason For Market Plunge
Loannetter,
As much as I admire your expertise on the holocaust, aka housing bubble, I must differ with your blanket charge against my Buds in the all bidness. Granted that the ecosystem is somewhat at risk but do you truely believe that ANYONE was so callaous that they would shoot themselves in the foot?
One could argue that the stupidity and greed of unregulated mortgage brokers cost this country many multiples of the accident in the gulf. How do you clean up the stench and pollution of Mr. Raines and HIS cronies in the mortgage markets?
I guess my sense of financial pollution is different than your oily birds. No matter. I just look for what really matters in a complex system. Oily birds and beach glop are not on my radar.
Re: Speaking of setups and scenarios...
"...I guess that $118.20 short trigger for SPY worked like charm, eh?"
VAD, I humbly and graciously say it loudly here, YOU ARE DA MAN :)
You called the top and the start of this correction, I took notice and I am sure many others here did and profited from that call. Thanks a lot and thanks to Bill and all others here who make this blog a wonderful experience. The best blog I have seen on cyber space in a long time..
GLTA
GS comment
Bill,
GS CEO agrees with you that conflicts exists and they just manage it. It hard to lose when you get to manage conflicts eh?
Blankfein: Goldman must recognize doubters
http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE64455Q20100506
"We shouldn't shy away from the fact that there are conflicts in this business and the potential for conflicts and that what we do is manage conflicts," Blankfein said, according to the CNBC broadcast. "It's not the conflicts, but how you manage the conflicts that shows your quality and your character."
$SILVER:$GOLD
Bill,
The RSI 7 for $SILVER:$GOLD is now 19. After reading your last WIR, you said that one should be a buyer of precious metals when this indicator dips below 30. What exactly are we buying - gold bullion? Silver appears to be in a downslide and Gold appears to be overbought. Can you please explain what you meant in the WIR.
Thanks in advance
GH
Interesting to note weakness in Aussie retail sales
when the newspapers and politicians are trumpeting the virtues of Australia's economy:
"On Thursday, Australian Bureau of Statistics (ABS) said retail sales rose by just 0.1 per cent in the March quarter for a 12-month growth to March of 1.2 per cent - the weakest annual figure since July 2001."
The cash cheque provided to Australians to go out and spend did the trick for the hi-fi music store reporting - last years sales being very strong - but it looks like no money from Uncle Rudd, no honey from the Australian consumer. This as the RBA continues to up interest rates.
http://au.biz.yahoo.com/100507/2/2crx8.html
Don't miss the forest for the trees
when asking why the market fell yesterday:
http://www.businessinsider.com/henry-blodget-dont-...
Re: Don't miss the forest for the trees
ALOHA!!
A lot of obvious stuff ... yes! As a survivor from the TECH BUBBLE I still cannot get past the fraud that Blodget and Meeker perpetrated in the high flying days of the dot-coms.
If you read back to this PBS link you will see Merrill Lynch + Blodget was caught the same way Goldman Sachs + Tourre were caught, via e-mails. Blodget, in 2000, sounds a lot like Tourre now. Here is one example.
STOCK: EXCITE AT HOME(ATHM)
6/3/00: Merrill Lynch published rating: 2 (accumulate) -1 (buy)
6/3/00: "ATHM is such a piece of crap!" -Henry Blodget E-mail
So as you see "conflict of interest" was still around even with Glass-Steagall ...
To me what Blodget and ML did then was and still is out and out fraud, yet Blodget was allowed to "settle" for a $2MIL fine and he agreed to be barred from securities. How many people following ML back then in 2000 lost money thanks to Blodget? Yet no criminal charges. No deterrent there! Imagine if this same "justice" was applied to BANK ROBBERY. Standing outside the bank the police and the bank robber talk ... "Okay Mr. Bank Robber, how much loot did you get?" $5MIL ... Okay, pay a $1MIL fine and you can go. We'd all be robbing banks! Small wonder "fraud" on Wall Street is still JOB ONE!
LINK: http://www.pbs.org/now/politics/wallstreet.html
It seems the crimes just keep getting larger in terms of dollars while the jail time is virtually non-existent. Plenty of laws we have ... where is the justice part?
NFIB OPTIMISM INDEX
ALOHA!!
The latest US FED release of the FOMC Meeting Minutes for December 14, 2004 shows that Greenspan, Bernanke, Geithner and Kos et al were using the NFIB Surveys to gather pertinent info on the economy.
Here is a piece from FOMC 2004:
So even in 2004 they were seeing signs that CAPEX, capital expenditure was disappearing. Not a good sign for a supposed "healthy economy".
MR. FERGUSON AT FOMC:
"This downshift in the forecast is reinforced by the current orders survey indicating that two major manufacturers of productivity-enhancing equipment characterized recent increases in orders as falling well below expectations. At 30 percent, the percentage of NFIB survey respondents planning to make capital expenditures is near the low end of its ten-year range. I’ve also heard from a private-sector contact of my own of a sudden weakness in demand for cutting-edge automated machine tools. This contact has an 80 percent market share for a key component that is used in nearly all automated machine tools, and he has experienced an unprecedented 30 percent cancellation for deliveries of that critical part in Q1 of next year and is expecting softness through almost all of 2005."
So in private the FOMC members are hearing about productivity crashing to ten year lows meanwhile they put this statement out to the public on December 14, 2004 right after the meeting Mr. Ferguson attended.
"The Committee believes that, even after this action, the stance of monetary policy remains accommodative and, coupled with robust underlying growth in productivity, is providing ongoing support to economic activity."
How can productivity remain "robust" when CAPEX has crashed?
Sounds a lot like Blodget and Tourre to me ...
So I have pointed out the NFIB surveys and here is a link to the latest NFIB SMALL BUSINESS OPTIMISM INDEX. Contrast this report with that of the 2010 FOMC reports and the rosy outlook the mainstream media plays ad nauseum. Also Obama is taking many bows now for "his" recovery. It truly is night-n-day in terms of outlook. The NFIB speaks for 50% of the private sector jobs and 97% of US exports. Who is lying here? Who always has an agenda to lie?
Scroll down to last pages to see raw data and charts ...
LINK: http://www.nfib.com/Portals/0/PDF/AllUsers/SBET201...
I have to ask what good is all this stimulus? It is a temporary measure to boost short term output via credit induced demand yet contributes nothing to production capacity long term. Production of the long term variety can only return to America when the "false wealth" of malinvestment through US Treasury/US FED ops cease. Stimulus from both the Bush and Obama regimes was directed at Fortune 500 companies and unions. Stimulus is just another version of pork for the political elite. It has nothing to do with real economics or "real" recovery. Yes CHINA ... you too!
Re: Reason For Market Plunge
Ross, Mr. Kennedy is quite an expert on these things being a lawyer and academic and environmentalist of the acutal informed sort. How callous can you be about the decimation of our fragile world by sheer stupid evasion of the most basic safety precautions for what...less than a day's production? No amount of money will cure the ocean and miles of death for generations. Your Buds are already ducking.
Sling your 'all' at my profession if that makes you happy... 'somewhat at risk' is how I feel here sometimes. I appreciate that you, I, oceanic ecosystems and your complexities of choice could choose to acknowledged each other's right to exist on the same planet, hopefully without killing our host.
MEANWHILE
ALOHA!!
DOW down and down ... meanwhile ...
Let me submit why the US Congress is in bed with the US FED and in truth has no intention of ever voluntarily offering real CHANGE via a watered down AUDIT THE FED. More US CONGRESS grandstanding just in time for the November elections I might add ...
I refer to a single line item on the US TREASURY STATEMENTS entitled "Net Public Debt Outstanding". This line item tallies the gross ISSUED DEBT for the FY YTD(Year-To-Date) against the gross DEBT REDEMPTIONS. This shows the rate at which the PUBLIC DEBT is increasing. If more debt is issued than redeemed then the PUBLIC DEBT grows. What is interesting is the huge rate of increase. Look what happens after Bush invades Iraq in FY 2003 and look what happens when Hank Paulson gets TARP passed after 2008 in FY 2009.
I will stay as close to May 4th for each Fiscal Year(FY) as possible, but some days I have to use the 3rd or the 5th. May 4th falls in the third quarter of the US TREASURY fiscal year(FY).
FY
1998 - $64.1BIL
2000 - $5.3BIL
2002 - $159.4BIL
2003 - $232.2BIL
2005 - $381.1BIL
2006 - $422.5BIL
2007 - $362.8BIL
2008 - $344.7BIL
WHAMMMM the LIABILITY BUBBLE!!!
2009 - $1.2TRIL
2010 - $1.03TRIL
On May 4th 1998 total US PUBLIC DEBT stood at $5.9TRIL and on May 4th 2010 it is at $12.9TRIL, a 220% increase over twelve years.
Without an "accommodating" US FED the current crop of leaders now infesting Washington DC could not retain power. Without the ability to spend using unlimited debt the entire DC monopoly would collapse. What good, I ask, is US Income Tax against ZERO government cost cuts combined with gigantic debt increases? The good people in Athens are rioting in the streets right now over a lot less!
Now why shouldn't POG go up?
Re: MEANWHILE
Kaimu,
They do get one's hopes up for a bit don't they? Tossing out a headline with postering politicos standing against the forces of evil. Scene change done deal all over. Sick.
Re: MEANWHILE
now that is interesting Kaimu. A complicit Fed, Congress & White House organising the funding of a war without public knowledge. The bailout years obviously need no discussion. "It's the money stupid" suggests they're all up to their necks in it, along with the deregulated business environment which, as Loannetter has alluded to, is increasingly disastrous for all concerned.
...and give Blodget a break will ya, I'm sure he's full of regret.
Re: $SILVER:$GOLD
Grasshopper,
Re: "The RSI 7 for $SILVER:$GOLD is now 19. After reading your last WIR, you said that one should be a buyer of precious metals when this indicator dips below 30."
$SILVER is leading on the downside, and the falling comparative RSI-7 could fall to single digits, so I'm not interested in buying precious metals yet. I think they are over-priced in the short-term. I'll wait til this RSI reverses past 30 before I'm interested. Also, I then have to look at the RSI's for the stocks I'm interested in.
In the context of this blog, RSI is a framework for discussion. In the world of technical analysis it is considered an important indicator by some analysts and not so important by others. In my trading, it happens to be one of the more important tools I use. But, remember an indicator is just an indicator.
Audio from the pit as the crash unfolded yesterday...
http://bit.ly/aD09IQ
Re: Audio from the pit as the crash unfolded yesterday...
Vad, if having skype is anything as annoying as listening to this guy shouting from the pit, I think I prefer to keep the calls in writing :)
Re: Speaking of setups and scenarios...
analyst,
thank you, appreciate you saying that and glad to hear it helped some. I received a few e-mails indicating timely closing long positions or opening shorts thanks to that call. Makes for a nice change after my long calls aggravated so many impatient bears, LOL.
Staying true to the form though, allow me to say that I didn't call the top; rather I called the setup for the top/reversal. There is a profound and very important for traders to understand difference.