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Bill Cara's Blog for Apr 19, 2011 [See Post-Close report]

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[7:00am ET] Good morning.

Share prices today in the Asia-Pacific region were distinctly negative, likely a consequence of yesterday’s Standard & Poor’s rating warning of US debt. But, by the time the sun had swung around India and over Europe, markets had turned green, which is the indication for US equity futures at this point in the day.

How long the market can remain strong is another matter. Money flows are weak and divergences between strong commodity prices and docile share prices cannot be ignored. The $WTIC:XLE and $GOLD:GDX ratio charts illustrate my concern as I know that the shares always lead the physicals over the long run.

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My belief is that share prices hit a mid-February high and the break-outs in early April in the energy and metals failed to regain sufficient ground to sustain the Bull market. Regarding technology, I am afraid that a US economic growth rate for 2011 of maybe +1.5% with an anemic employment situation is going to bring disappointment to those who are anticipating strong earnings this quarter and next.

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Meanwhile, I am back and enjoying the action, even if I have not yet ventured into new positions.

Have a great day.


[9:39am ET] Good morning. Geoff here.

• Overnight, Asia markets traded lower as Europe rallied.
• Goldman Sachs reported an upside earnings surprise on stronger than expected revenue.
• Johnson & Johnson reported an upside earnings surprise and provided improved guidance.
• Texas Instruments missed earnings estimates due to disruptions from the earthquakes in Japan.

The big story from yesterday was the reaction to the announcement from S&P that the rating for US government debt would remain at AAA status, but cut its outlook from stable to negative.

Timothy Geithner said this morning on CNBC that he disagreed with S&P saying that things are “better than they have been…” He basically said that Democrats, Republicans and the President are on the same page regarding reforms that will improve the fiscal condition of the USA. These reforms will force Washington to live within its means.

Hogwash! Politicians have proven without a doubt that they are only good at one thing – spending taxpayer dollars and handing the problem off to the next group of leaders. I really hope that I am wrong, but the debt issues in the US have been around for many years and have not been addressed yet. What makes me believe that they will be addressed now? Like many US citizens, I have zero respect for politicians because I view them as the problem, not the solution. Washington DC is the only place in the country with a healthy real estate market – doesn’t that tell you something?

Last summer, at a girls’ softball game, I happened to be sitting right next to a federally elected official because we were with the same family attending. As people fawned over this politician, the only thought that was going through my mind was a question that I wanted to ask, “Do you realize that the majority of educated people in this country want to ring your neck?” Of course, this was not the time or the place to make a scene so I folded my chair, walked over to the bench and gave my 10 year-old daughter some encouragement.

The US is a debtor nation. The only reason that we are able to continue the ridiculous amount of spending is because the US dollar is still the reserve currency of the world. However, that is changing. The average US citizen has no idea what I am talking about, which is most likely the reason that Washington is able to drive the cart into the ditch again and again without repercussion.

If things don’t change now, the citizens will find out what I am talking about first hand. It won’t be pretty.

Have a great trading day!




Here are the 7:00am ET snapshots of the latest equity market trading results for Europe, and futures prices plus 5-minute charts of the futures for S&P 500, 30-year US Treasury Bond, US Dollar index, Gold and Crude Oil.


Symbol Name Last Trade Change Related Info
^ATX ATX 2,728.10 5:01AM EDT Down 41.90 (1.51%) Components, Chart, More
^BFX BEL-20 2,687.14 6:58AM EDT Up 11.84 (0.44%) Components, Chart, More
^FCHI CAC 40 3,906.74 6:58AM EDT Up 25.50 (0.66%) Components, Chart, More
^GDAXI DAX 7,045.35 6:43AM EDT Up 18.50 (0.26%) Components, Chart, More
^AEX AEX General 353.46 6:43AM EDT Up 0.78 (0.22%) Components, Chart, More
^OSEAX OSE All Share 487.12 6:43AM EDT Up 3.13 (0.65%) Components, Chart, More
^SMSI Madrid General N/A 0.00 (0.00%) Chart, More
^OMXSPI Stockholm General 358.54 7:00AM EDT Up 3.81 (1.07%) Components, Chart, More
^SSMI Swiss Market 6,309.18 6:44AM EDT Up 64.23 (1.03%) Components, Chart, More
^FTSE FTSE 100 5,896.55 6:43AM EDT Up 26.47 (0.45%) Components, Chart, More





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The team will check in during the day, reporting in the Discourse when there is a new entry.

Enjoy your day.


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Good evening. Patrick here.

Monday morning news generated selloffs testing and holding support generally means prices are heading higher in holiday-shortened weeks. Goldman earnings briefly boosted equity futures pre-market opening, but its shares abruptly tanked 7 points from early morning highs dragging most of the financials lower. The broad market, however, was largely unaffected by Goldman’s u-turn lower, spending most of the day grinding higher, finishing near session highs (S&P+0.57%).

After the close Intel (INTC+1.22%) posted better than expected numbers, surging over +5% in after-hours trade, setting the stage for a firmer technology sector Wednesday morning.

The old adage, “if they can’t take them down they are going up” appears to rule the day; barring a break of S&P 1295, Bulls look to be calling the shots, at least for the time being, ready to make a run at the yearly high of 1344.

Last evening we commented on several hammers being formed, usually a good indication early morning selling was overwhelmed and defeated by opportunistic buying. US Steel (X+4.46%) and Teck Resources (TCK+6.61%) were prime examples; both stocks yesterday hammered at support and then gapped higher this morning, unwilling to allow would-be passengers to board the train as it left the station.

Several miners are coiling, bumping up against horizontal resistance or declining trend lines – are they finally ready to join the precious metals in one final surge higher?

The tale of the tape may be revealed shortly – stay tuned for breaking developments.

Have a great evening.


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  • Pm's and financial crisis

    2007-2008 is but one example.

    2001-2002 is another worth mentioning for balance. The xau:gold ratio was at a low of .18ish then, today it is at .14 ish a long term historical low. In 2007 it was at +.20ish

    Pm stocks rallyied hundreds of percent while the spx fell close to 50%

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    mine confiscation discussion

    Ok, so even FDR didn't confiscate mines.

    But Obama can up the taxes to the moon on them...
    Or hell, he can confiscate them, anyway. Change is good, LOL.

    That's why I own Canadian mining companies with their mines in Canada. Canada has a mining culture. They will protect the mining companies like the US protects their paper tigers on Wall St., IMO.

    FT: Apple sues Samsung over patents for iPad

    http://on.ft.com/fYNqrs

    The lawsuit claims Samsung violated 10 iPhone and iPad-related patents in its Android-based smartphones and its Galaxy Tab tablet computer.

    The nub of it which they put quite eloquently:

    “Instead of pursuing independent product development, Samsung has chosen to slavishly copy Apple’s innovative technology, distinctive user interfaces, and elegant and distinctive product and packaging design,” the suit argues.

    Looks like Samsung is proving to be a vigorous competitor and Apple really doesn't like it. They do appear to be riding on Apple's coattails somewhat as their designs are definitely imitative as opposed to innovative. However, in order to win the case, Apple needs to prove prospective customers are so confused by the copying that the products are indistinguishable from the genuine article.

    Cara 100 Ratings Changes For POMO Tuesday

    Good morning.

    5 -7 Billion Dollar POMO Injection Today. (more help for our credit rating)

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    8:30 - Housing Starts/Building Permits

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    There are NO Cara 100 Ratings Changes to report at this time.

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    "The budget should be balanced, the Treasury should be refilled, public debt should be reduced, the arrogance of officialdom should be tempered and controlled, and the assistance to foreign lands should be curtailed lest Rome become bankrupt. People must again learn to work, instead of living on public assistance." ~ Marcus Tullius Cicero

    Intel’s bold bet against ARM: visionary or myopic?

    http://bit.ly/gYLSXA

    A nice read on Intel vs ARM / PC vs tablet from last year.

    Student Loan Debt

    "Student loan debt outpaced credit card debt for the first time last year and is likely to top a trillion dollars this year as more students go to college and a growing share borrow money to do so."

    http://www.nytimes.com/2011/04/12/education/12coll...

    Another government sponsored program that will end in disaster for our very young citizens.

    Premarket report

    thank you Bill, your two ratio charts permit me to look at potential tops and bottoms differently, if stocks are leading the underlying stuff.

    I noted another author lamenting the behaviour of mining stocks relative to the metal. http://www.michaelkdawson.com/2011/04/18/sayonara-...

    He can join the club. Do I want to lighten up on the 40% weighting I have in a couple of core juniors is the next question I want to ask myself. I probably do.

    Ritholz poses an interesting suggestion - that this S&P downgrade might be official policy tightening. Has the market been put on notice?

    Re: Premarket report

    "mines are like real estate – it is location, location, location." – very good point.

    Kaimu - If the rating agencies were honest this downgrade...

    http://caracommunity.com/content/bill-caras-blog-a...

    Exactly!!! thanks for the post yesterday. I'm trying to catch up here but feel I'm falling behind - can someone loan me a extra day?

    thanks,
    Earl

    Re: Premarket report

    yes and I suspect that what Dave was suggesting in counterparty country risk may require a bit more thought when buying juniors in future, especially if global social strife manifests itself more frequently and importantly in future years as a result of US political and monetary behaviour.

    Cara 100 Update

    CNQ - Canadian Natural upgraded to Buy from Neutral at UBS citing relative valuation and strong free cash flow.

    See the Morning Report

    Above.

    Short strength v Buy weakness

    Anyone have a bias going into IBM/INTC earnings? Can't say I have enough conviction to trade either way ahead of the news. But my bias would be to short any optimism.

    Re: mine confiscation discussion

    Cheapy , I agree . It is safer and a better investment choice to invest in an economy where the standard of living is rising . Also they have regained all jobs lost to the financial crisis and have created new jobs surpassing the level prior to the crisis . The currency is fiat but among the hardest most solid , backed by enormous commodities in the ground and a government that actively encourages economic growth and a higher standard of living . The banking sector ALLOWS NO SUB PRIME MORTGAGES and banks must hold and own and service all mortgages . FORBIDDEN FROM SELLING THEM , THEY HAVE LIVE AND ACT LIKE BANKERS . Where do they get these " NOVEL IDEAS " . Bob. Full discloser I own Canadian miners.

    Re: Student Loan Debt

    JimG,

    I agree. I'm not sure I would recommend anything other than a liberal arts program if I had college age kids. Flexibility looks like the recipe for the future.

    We have friends whose son is brilliant and has several scholarship offers, but has decided against his former choice of medicine. This is partly due to the Obamacare, but mostly because of the huge loan he would incur.

    Grym

    VIX110518C20 @ 1.8 - May risk up a bit.

    Sell set at 2.45 and will need to happen this week or I'll probably eat it.

    Bought a couple POT110917C55 at 5.45

    regards,
    Earl

    Re: Student Loan Debt

    This is the biggest time bomb in America. 20 something yr olds with no jobs and mountain of debt. and the graduates here are not as competitive as graduates in other countries. No accountablility by the parent, the individual child, or the school system.

    As we consume like zombies, we learn like zombies too. Never questioning conformity. or why is tuition $50k + per yr? doo da doo da doo da.

    Nike - Sewn in the USA.
    BYD Cars - manufactured in Los Angeles
    $350 per gallon at the pump *caused by dollar destruction

    A future where everything is produced in America and consumed by a growing middle class elsewhere.

    Coming to an America near you.

    Re: VIX110518C20 @ 1.8 - May risk up a bit.

    added 10 at 1.65 but 90% chance will be out this week, gain or loss.
    Earl

    Re: mine confiscation discussion

    Everyone, including me, complains about the deficit. Even S&P has dinged the U.S. and cast doubt about our ability to pay in the future.

    Most Americans don't want to raise taxes and I'll agree with that. But we as adults must realize that "we can't always have our druthers." The idiot children that got us into this mess were the ones that cut taxes without cutting any budget items and of course started two wars without raising taxes to pay for them.

    While I don't support Mr. Obama in this case I must agree with him. In order to cut the deficit we must both cut the budget and raise taxes. Trying to do one without the other will have the effect of trying to clap with one hand.

    Re: Intel’s bold bet against ARM: visionary or myopic?

    Microsoft has already shown off Windows 8 running on ARM at CES back January. http://zd.net/dLy2nS

    AMD is also getting in to the low power SOC chips with its Bobcat chips.

    Re: mine confiscation discussion

    Mayham, I somewhat agree on tax increases - I'm conservative as they come and felt totally betrayed by baby bush. IMHO - he is part of the reason the Tea Party took off (thank you Rick Santelli) but we also have to cut the size of government - I'm talking specifically the civil service people - the way too many civil unservice people - those ensconced in offices all over the country, doing nothing but giving away the bank.

    SGR.TO is makiing a nice gain today...

    regards,
    Earl

    Re: mine confiscation discussion

    Hi Mayhem - The government is already raising everyones taxes day to day in a most scurrilous manner. The problem is too much spending not too little taxation. The raise the tax mantra is obfuscation by the progressive agenda. Happy Trading
    http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/government-regu...

    Re: Intel’s bold bet against ARM: visionary or myopic?

    Looks like the Bobcat is more aimed at competing with Intel's Atom. Why else would they put an out-of-order execution unit on it? With Intel it's all about performance. They haven't succeeded with reducing the power consumption enough to make it competitive in the smartphone arena.

    Davefairtex

    Hey Dave - Did you check out the MITK mobile deposit feature with USAA?

    Dnfrm; VIX110518C20 up 23.6%

    I question your absolutist premise re: "... when it ( the VIX ) gets around 16 it won't and can't stay there"

    sorry but the VIX won't stay anywhere! it will go up, it will go down... When typing on my phone I tend to think 'short' comments. I have in the past traded VIX calls but typically 1 to 3 days and I posted my trade today - it may not work this time, for sure there's always that chance but I'm comfortable with the trade. If others want to try it fine if not fine it's not my intent to convince anyone anyway. I'm simply looking at what I'm comfortable doing and posting it. Today I bought 5 VIX110518C20 @ 1.8 and 10 at 1.65 - avg of 1.7 - all I need is a move back to the $2 for a good weeks gain. I'm not expecting Geithner to hand out pacifiers this week so the VIX could go back up like yesterday. Just a joke :-) Absent others posting lots of specific trade ideas I'm comfortable with I'll toss things out there for visceral dissection... ruminate on my friend ;-)
    regards,
    Earl

    Re: mine confiscation discussion

    I agree with you on the size and complexity of the Government today. States have been bankrupted by the federal government mandates. Entitlements are have mushroomed.

    The American voters should require that Congress take a "sabbatical" every seven years or so. The work to be done during that period should be to review the laws that have been passed, determining if they are working and how they should be changed or ammended to make them work. Are too many citizens spending time in prison at $20,000 per year per prisoner? Are the tax rules to complicated? Are there tax loop holes that need to be filled? These are all questions that we the American people should be asking our representatives.

    When it comes to economics political affiliation should not be a real consideration. Most of us, except for lobbyists, work for the good of our country. I do agree that the civil service rolls have swelled and government expenditures have gotten out of hand. How many studies on the sex life of a blue whale do we really need?

    In the 1940s and 1950s the higest tax bracket was up to 90% and the top 1% of earners did not make as much as the lower 50%, the country just ran. We had a deficit but we were paying it back. The Regan tax cuts were justified because the money was mainly spent here in the United States because most of the manufacturing was done here in the United States.

    Re: mine confiscation discussion

    "...the progressive agenda." We had eight years to see what the opposite is like.

    Is this panic of "mine cofiscation" all about making miners who extract from government lands (the citizens'lands) pay royalties?

    Thats a free ride, conservatives are supposed to hate free rides.

    Ciao, Z.

    Is Pmv.v Halted?

    I noticed no trading volume today, does anyone know if this stock is Halted.

    ZedII..."the progressive agenda"

    "We had eight years to see what the opposite was like".... unless I am mistaken Pelosi and Reid took over the house and senate w/the 2006 elections..... 4+ years ago....that's where all the spending/budgets are supposed to originate...remember the thing (budget) that they didn't even bother to pass last year for the fiscal year ending this Oct????

    Re: Davefairtex

    TOF -

    I did, I tried it. Alas, I had no checks to actually deposit. Perhaps you can send me one. :)

    The app isn't super well integrated, its sort of a bolt-on. You have to run it when the App starts up rather than after you log in to your account at USAA, which was odd. It moved along as fast as one might expect an app on an Iphone 3G to work. Perhaps it would have taken me 5 minutes start to finish - faster if I'd done it before. I would be really curious to see how well it did on different surfaces, with different lighting, etc. Like with finger imaging, I suspect there will be some user training issues, but it didn't feel like it was all that hard to do.

    Next step when I get back to the US is to have my mom try it and see how she likes it. "Here Mom, write me a check, and I'll show you a trick..."

    I think the issue will be promotion. I use USAA, and I had no idea this app existed. Now that I looked for it, I saw that USAA already has a PC + scanner "deposit at home" function for their website, but I never noticed it before.

    People have to realize something is possible, and that its something they would actually find useful, before they adopt it in large numbers. I'm pretty tech savvy, and I even knew about this technology perhaps 12 years ago, and I never noticed this at all. Like I said, the trick will be promotion, assuming it can accurately scan a check (say) 90% of the time.

    Re: mine confiscation discussion

    Hi Zed - No free ride for the miners in the U.S., and there hasn't been for some time contrary to the progressive talking points. The State(s) are the taxing authority for minerals, as it should be, without funds going to the national sponge ... Nevada's mining tax structure dates back to statehood in the 1860s, and taxes at 5 percent of net proceeds. Happy Trading

    Re: mine confiscation discussion

    Zed II - "Is this panic of "mine cofiscation" all about making miners who extract from government lands (the citizens' lands) pay royalties?"

    Given the tone of your question, I get the idea where you are coming from, but I'll answer your question straight anyway: no, that's not what this is about.

    Charging a fixed royalty for a mine is fine. It's changing the rules of the game mid-stream after the investors have already allocated their capital - that's what I'm talking about, and I'm claiming that's not so fine. Lets say an investor has an idea to mine some gold somewhere, and the government tells him they will take 20% of his income stream as royalties. He does his ROI calculation, adds in a risk factor, and determines the mine is a good enough idea to throw his (and his friends) money into the effort.

    Then the mine starts producing, and subsequently the government comes in and raises the royalty payments to 50%. That's what I'm talking about. Changing the rules mid-stream.

    Kind of like what they did during the crash. Selling short was fine, right up until the banks themselves were being shorted - and then suddenly, shorting BANK stocks was illegal (but shorting everything else was still fine).

    knock knock

    Gold tapping on the $1500 psychological resistance level this hour. Fascinating isn't it, how such an arbitrary number can affect valuation; and I can't help but think that it will make for a great support level if and when it is penetrated, (and I think it will be sooner rather than later).

    I can't find anything about why no volume is showing for PMI, but I just read the great drill results for Extorre (XG-T), i.e. bonanza levels in some samples. Didn't I hear about that one from somebody here? If so, my thanks!

    Retirement penalties waived for REOs: Housing Recovery Bill

    http://www.housingwire.com/2011/04/18/bill-would-w...

    If passed, this Bill would allow you to buy an REO ('Real Estate Owned' by a bank = foreclosure) as a 2 year investment and waive the penalties for early withdrawal of your 401K or Roth IRA funds.

    Re: Davefairtex

    Dave - I agree. The MITK person I spoke with said the adoption rate is already 40% amongst USAA mobile banking customers...so maybe you need to open your eyes a little~!

    Also, Chase is spending $75 Million on advertising this mobile deposit service to their customers and apparently that is driving a significant amount of demand for this service with other banks.

    Re: Is Pmv.v Halted?

    Very odd... Last week I bought my shares back @.65 from 'The California Kid' (hope he is having a great vacation);-)
    thanks,
    Earl

    Re: Davefairtex

    TOF -

    I'm certain that once people use it - heck once people are even aware its possible and won't hurt them - they'll try it and likely keep coming back, its just too convenient. The issue is getting people over the hump of
    a) knowing its possible
    b) not being scared of it "doing something bad to them"

    These things aren't insurmountable, and once word of mouth catches on adoption could be quite fast, I'm just laying out the case of what the barriers are in my opinion.

    I'm surprised 40% of USAA mobile customers use it. It is right there on the main page - it is #4 on the menu of the USAA mobile app, but that's an astonishingly high (unbelievably high?) adoption rate, unless of course it is the primary reason most people want the app in the first place.

    Next questions might be - how many USAA mobile customers are there, what percentage of USAA's customer base use the USAA app, what's the rate at which new USAA app users come in, and how long has the app been available.

    Re: Retirement penalties waived for REOs: Housing Recovery Bill

    I am sure there will be mortgage cos opening up to terrorize and sling home equity loans to homeowners who bought all cash via REOs via 401ks.

    All the actors, and script writers in this movie are the same.

    Re: mine confiscation discussion

    "In the 1940s and 1950s the higest tax bracket was up to 90% and the top 1% of earners did not make as much as the lower 50%, the country just ran. We had a deficit but we were paying it back."

    The actual rate in those days was 91% for incomes over $200K. However, the reality was much different when it came to what was actually paid. Almost no one paid these higher tax rates (there was one year in the 1950s where only a single taxpayer in the United States actually paid the highest tax rate) because while the rates looked almost confiscatory very few people ever paid them due to all of the tax credits, loopholes, and legal dodges that went along with the almost 25 different tax rates of this period. FDR had started these higher rates (top rate was 81% pre WWII) but also provided plenty of ways for all of his high income friends (and his own family members) to avoid them completely. And for all of the talk about tax rates during the Great Depression most people were never bothered by them at all. The lowest rate in those days was 13% starting at an annual income of $2000 (and up to $4000)but the average income for the majority of Americans was something like $1800 per year. My own father grew up in a middle class family in the Midwest during that period and once told me that he never knew a single family that ever had to pay any Federal Income Tax prior to WWII.

    As for when the national debt started getting out of control (much more important than the deficit in many ways) it's been coming for decades. As Kaimu has been explaining to us an increasingly unsound currency is the root of the current problem and that has direct ties to Richard Nixon closing the gold window for international settlements in August of 1971. Just about every financial problem that has cropped up since can be traced back one way or another to that single event.

    Secret memos expose link between oil firms and invasion of Iraq

    "Plans to exploit Iraq's oil reserves were discussed by government ministers and the world's largest oil companies the year before Britain took a leading role in invading Iraq, government documents show."

    http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/secr...

    Cara 100 Update (Final)

    TXN - estimates cut at Oppenheimer through 2012. Company continues to face disruptions because of Japan. Outperform rating and $41 price target.

    TXN - price target lower at Citi to $40 from $42 as Japan earthquake felt in both gross margins and EPS, Citigroup said. Maintain Buy rating.

    (US) S&P: Adjustment in

    (US) S&P: Adjustment in outlook for United States will not impact AAA rated US corporations
    - Standard & Poor's continues to view transfer and convertibility risk--the risk that the U.S. government would limit the ability of other issuers to secure foreign exchange to make debt-service payments--as remote
    - Given the global business profile and the significant financial strength of Exxon Mobil, Johnson & Johnson, and Microsoft, our long-term rating outlook for these U.S. domiciled corporate issuers remains stable. Standard & Poor's other U.S.-domiciled 'AAA' rated issuer, ADP, although less diversified by product line and geographical business mix, continues to have high customer and end-market diversification

    REDF breakout

    Internet stocks in China and India flying

    Canada's debt similar to US

    Federal politicians don't have the guts to talk about this problem in Canada during an election campaign. What a surprise!

    http://www.canadianbusiness.com/markets/headline_n...

    I'm with you Geoff.

    Re: Davefairtex

    Dave - The adoption rate of mobile apps ramps up really quickly so I wouldn't be shocked that 40% of USAA's mobile users actually deposit checks through their phone. It's such an easy thing to do and beats going to the ATM/teller any day of the week.

    The man I spoke with at MITK.ob said that he doesn't anticipate such a huge adoption rate with other banks...he was thinking it would probably be half of that primarily because USAA tends to cater to military people who are more in need of depositing checks remotely. Still 20% would be great. BAC will be rolling this feature out next year and they have approximately 20 million users. That alone could bring $5-$10 Million in revenues annually for MITK (MITK charges $1 to $2 per subscriber annually (or $0.15 per check deposited) and given that net margins are 85% on mobile depositing, they would generate $4-$8 Million in profit. Total overhead is around $5 Million for the company. I know the adoption rate is the key to this...I just think this is a great 2-3 year investment. I could easily see this getting to a $1 Billion market cap (vs $120MM right now). We shall see. I'm in it.

    Re: mine confiscation discussion

    There are no mining taxes on federal lands except coal, and that is set through bids.
    There are state imposed tax, differing by state.

    Statute, not "talking points".

    As far as changing the tax basis, when the impact from mining costs more than the royalties derived from that activity (ex: timber harvested on Fed. lands) it is time reevaluate.

    I don't like paying tax, but I remind myself that I'm paying because I had a good year.

    Ciao, Z.

    Conestoga Bank Launches Mobile Deposit

    short squeeze in silver continues

    FD: long SLV calls.

    UNG poped up back again

    Very tempting to take profits, but I will wait.
    FD: long UNG calls.

    bonds up on this bullish day for stocks

    To me it shows the underlying strength in bonds. The only thing is TLT is almost bouncing BB. Can ease some in next couple of days, but something big is coming.

    FD: long TLT.

    $VIX is back in 15's

    VIX Call buying opportunity?

    Re: mine confiscation discussion

    Zed II - "There are no mining taxes on federal lands except coal..."

    I did not know that.

    Re: mine confiscation discussion

    "But Obama can up the taxes to the moon on them...
    Or hell, he can confiscate them, anyway. Change is good, LOL."

    I would welcome a tax or royalty placed on US mines. Nothing will get permits approved and metal out of the ground faster than giving Uncle Sam a stake. Hey, come to think of it, they should be doing the same thing with oil!

    There are still laws in place in the USA to prevent any nationalization.

    An 'Oh Please!' Moment

    An 'Oh Please!' Moment: Is S&P Running Interference for the Right to Help Crush Social Security and Medicare?

    http://www.thiscantbehappening.net/

    http://jessescrossroadscafe.blogspot.com/2011/04/m...

    I'm inclined to agree with them. Bill shows me two ratio charts this morn with the suggestion that the equities lead the underlying stuff, and here they are getting back in the game today.

    Uncle Buck is a foul poodle the gets up and begs when S&P calls and then rolls politely over from his HB&B masters the next day.

    I've bought a call in $DANG as it moves on monster volume today. SLW and GDX are getting back in the game. I've gotten back in the game as well. Ignoring the indexes cause they're just messing with my head.

    Someday's I just feel like this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SW411UUOcSI

    Re: $VIX is back in 15's/ Sell-off in the wings

    jack- I can't believe the VIX numbers. I think it spikes soon enough. We almost have to move down.

    Re: $VIX is back in 15's/ Sell-off in the wings

    Yap, I went in Earl's footsteps and bought a few in the money calls. The only thing is VIX options have insane time premiums.

    Re: REDF breakout

    Congrats if you were long. I think TOF talked about this one some time ago but I was too lazy to research it up.

    Re: An 'Oh Please!' Moment

    "Ignoring the indexes cause they're just messing with my head."

    Most money I lost was betting on indexes (?sp, indices?).

    I haven't decided on getting back into GDX yet. I guess I'm waiting for a second drop.

    Re: mine confiscation discussion

    Hi All - There seems to be a lack of communication by progressives about tax & benefits of the natural resource sector here in the U.S. to wit: U.S. mining in 2008 directly and indirectly generated nearly 1.8 million U.S. jobs,
    $107 billion in U.S. labor income, $189 billion in contribution to U.S. gross domestic product, and $45 billion in federal, state and local taxes. Data is a bit dated, but clearly taxes are paid. Happy Trading
    http://www.nwma.org/pdf/economic_contributions.pdf

    Re: An 'Oh Please!' Moment

    it's AAPL that did it for me. Been stuck on waiting for a pullback so long now that so many opportunities have been missed and so much of my gains given back. AAPL ripping from the lows of yesterday made me decide to stop waiting for the world to end and find breakout setups. SLW and GDX did meet that setup criteria in the hourly time frame, successfully breaking through the 5 day moving average resistance. GDX finding support at the 20dma and SLW at the 50. Uncle Buck behaving like a desexed Chihuahua shook me out of my inertia.

    Re: Davefairtex

    TOF -

    I actually worked at a company for several years writing mobile applications, and then I worked with our marketing department trying to figure out our customer adoption rates and other "business metrics" for the company - so I know a fair bit about both mobile apps, adoption rates, barriers to use, and how to model all of it.

    The universe of customers that have the app is likely to be much bigger than the customers who will actually use it to deposit checks. This is a free app we're talking about. Some chunk of people will download it and then never use it. Many use it once, and then never use it again. (BAC may or may not have these numbers; it took work for us to get them at our company). And downloads does not mean users - folks may upgrade their phones, which ends up double or triple counting users. Discovering your actual active userbase is not as easy as you might think.

    Modeling the average deposits per customer, and the percentage of customers with the app who actually use it will let you figure out likely real numbers for MITK.

    Back of the envelope calculation - 3rd largest iphone app is TWC (the weather channel), and they had 12M iphone downloads (as of Aug 2010). 20M for BAC's ho-hum banking app doesn't feel right.

    If you got half the 70M iphones in the country to download one of these apps, that would be perhaps 30-60M/year. Then say 20% of those did 2 checks a month, that's another 20M/year. I'm not sure I see a 1B company out of that. Perhaps if they have a placement memorandum you can get, these projections would be in there.

    However, perhaps the actual number matters less than the sizzle factor. Once the app is widely used, they'll get well known, and the Peter Lynch effect will take over. "They'll make BILLIONS!" :)

    Re: Davefairtex

    Dave - Yeah I think the best way to get at their true potential is to consider the market size. The total check market is 25+ Billion per year in the US. If mobile deposit is able to capture 5% of this market over time, then 1.25 Billion checks will be deposited annually. MITK is in pretty much every one of the banks that offer this right now so let's say they capture a 50% market share of those mobile deposits. That equates to:

    1.25 Billion
    x
    50%
    =625 Million checks deposited
    x $0.15/deposit
    =$94 Million Revenues
    x Gross Profit Margin (85%)
    =$80 Gross Profit

    Overhead right now is about $5 Million. Even if you triple that you still get a $65 Million Net Income. These high growth stocks with big market potential tend to peak at high multiples. I think 30 times those earnings is reasonable, which equates to about $2 Billion market cap. I'm assuming things go wrong and the target is about half of that.

    And again, this completely ignores their other products like Bill Pay...here's a good recap after their q4 earnings last year:
    http://www.digitaltransactions.net/news/story/2804

    They hint at using their technology for insurance forms and other products. Basically they are a technology company that took years to develop their technology and then waited for years until the market developed for it. Now that it's here they have a really bright future.

    Re: REDF breakout

    Didn't own it but remember the touting here when it buzzed up and down between 3 and 7. I do own DANG, which is a China internet stock up 17% today. I'm still covering underwater tech stocks, but big earnings reports from IBM, VMW, INTC, and gambler WYNN may slow the # of participants exiting stocks. Not so happy to read Chris Martenson latest which focused on mountain of debt needing to be issued in the next two years, and concurrent China real estate bubble looking like it is bursting.
    http://www.minyanville.com/businessmarkets/article...
    Not good. Article confirms Kaimu reports.
    Good piece by Jessie today linked above. Made me think of Gordon Brown ex PM of UK who wrote a book "After the Crash" which speaks of the lack of ethics at banking level. So they cleverly get around regulation, or convince politicos to tear it down. We all lose unless there is balance. Think Easter Island.

    Luggie: Penny Stocks to Wet Your Whistle

    Luggie - From last night:

    "Hi Dr S. - You have left us on the edge of our seats ... pray tell which ones were they?"

    From the 1975-80 period compliments of Jesse's Cafe Americain:

    http://tinyurl.com/3vjbvxj

    Lion Mines was a 5,428.57 bagger ...

    Opening CSCO/WFC after hours @ 16.7x/30.20

    Clearly a hunch. CSCO to 50% of allocation in two separate transactions @ 16.7x. WFC to 50% of allocation @ 30.20.

    If I'm wrong, I'm willing to take the hit.

    Most recent sales of each: CSCO @ 17.40 April 21, WFC @ 31.80 March 21. Can't deny a psychological tint to the trades.

    http://tinyurl.com/5jl3mc

    running on empty?

    http://dshort.com/charts/mega-bear-2000-comparison...

    I need to find myself a good short entry. This rebound can last a few days?

    WFC

    Should have taken a flyer on INTC. That's the danger of having a 'bias.' Can't really say I made the wrong move, however. No way for me to have known reaction to INTC earnings.

    Of course, you can also say I have no way of knowing reaction to WFC earnings. That one's a pure hunch. Something will eventually light a fire under financials, and being a long-time WFC customer + wife an ex-employee I believe if any bank has a shot at it, it's WFC.

    Re: Opening CSCO/WFC after hours @ 16.7x/30.20

    I've probably shared more than once listening to a young street musician playing 'Drift Away' on the steps of Union Square in '73. This song more than any other takes me back to the days of falling asleep to a transistor radio jammed next to my ear while living in an SRO on Jones.

    I hit the same streets more or less these days on my to work in the morning. In that sense I can identify with Chris Gardner: http://tinyurl.com/3faosv3

    See the Post-Close Report

    Above.

    Re: Luggie: Penny Stocks to Wet Your Whistle

    Hi Dr. S - Thanks for the follow up .. always nice to look at the history of past success. Bye the bye I did some work in and around the Wharf deposit in South Dakota during days gone by. Earlier days witnessed the uranium boom of the Colorado/Utah border in the late 1940's and early 1950's ...lots of penny stocks did well then on Colorado & Utah exchanges. C. Steen was a icon from those times. Another prospector I knew and assisted later in his life took that experience to Nevada to become one of the most successful prospectors for "no see um" gold made famous by Newmont's development of the Carlin Mine. Happy Trading
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Steen

    Paul Allen live on Charlie Rose now

    Re: Retirement penalties waived for REOs: Housing Recovery Bill

    NYUgrad.
    No kidding. Paid actors and writers like you and me selling and buying mortgage bonds and treasuries to fund our life go round.

    Re: Davefairtex

    TOF -

    I've never been a big fan of "if they get 5% of the market" method of analysis since it doesn't take into account any breakdown of why 5% of the transactions would really care enough to use the product. Why not choose 1%? Or 10%? In VC-land, they typically shred presentations that rely on such assumptions. "Its a big market, we're sure to get some of it and 5% seems like a nice number" doesn't pass muster.

    I feel a more credible methodology is to identify the customer for whom this service is just right - the occasional check depositor. Estimate the number of those customers, determine how many use smartphones, use the adoption rates for mobile app use in banking, and determine your revenue and profit ramp from that. It still uses assumptions, but they are ones you can fact-check and change as time passes and more information becomes available.

    The hints about using their tech for other areas I think are interesting, but until they have a signed customer, I think its just sizzle and not steak - they are just throwing stuff against the wall to see if it sticks. It reminds me of some of the stuff done in my previous companies with products we thought were interesting, but didn't really have a business case for. My gut says its probably not the killer app here, but there might be a pony in there somewhere.

    Remote check deposits are cool because it involves money. People want to get money a lot more than they want to pay it out. And taking a picture of money and having it appear in your bank account just seems magical. I don't think the same feeling applies to paying a bill. It just doesn't feel as cool...

    And banks are aligned with this too. Offloading check processing to the customer, why that's just a dream come true for them. Thats why they are willing to pay out for the technology.

    Re: Davefairtex

    Dave - I hear you with what you're saying about the whole take 5% of the whole pie, but there is no real way to calculate the alternative you gave, primarily because the market is unknown. I mean we know the number of mobile smartphone users, but the market for mobile banking users is dependent in large part upon additional services being offered, like mobile deposit, that will entice more and more people to stop using ATMs and start using their phones as ATMs.

    Here is a good article on why mobile deposit is a must have feature that will kick mobile banking into gear...as you can see not only is it a great convenience for customers, but it is also a big cost saver for banks:

    http://www.sdbj.com/news/2011/apr/18/top-banks-get...

    Re: Davefairtex

    TOF, I don't think it's that hard to find numbers. For instance, some numbers we have seen from these articles:

    * 4 million checks deposited with Mobile Deposit at USAA in 2010
    * USAA has 8 million customers
    * 15 million mobile banking customers total in the industry

    http://blog.mobilestrategypartners.com/2010/04/18/...

    USAA Mobile Banking:
    * 14% penetration Q4 2009 (1.1M customers)
    * 17% penetration Q1 2010 (1.4M customers)
    * 20% ramp per quarter

    So if we assume a 20% per quarter ramp of mobile banking customers, Q4 2010 ends with 2.3M mobile customers, with 4M checks deposited. That's pretty occasional. Perhaps only a few customers know how to do it or feel comfortable with it. Maybe that usage has a ramp as well.

    We can also calculate overall industry-wide mobile banking customers this way too. 15M mobile banking customers now, growing 20% per quarter.

    You could probably do a spreadsheet and come up with something within a factor of 2 of what will really happen based on announced rollout dates and customer counts for each organization.

    My guess is usage growth rates will be impressive (perhaps 100% per year?) but beginning revenue numbers won't be as high as one might hope.

    QE2 TRUMPED

    ALOHA!!

    The basis of QE2 and QE1 is to buy US Treasury debt, but what happens to QE2 if it ends before June because the Debt Ceiling is reached? Officially the Debt Ceiling prevents the US Treasury from issuing debt, meaning Treasury Bills, Notes and Bonds. How can Ben Bernanke buy something that cannot be issued legally? I think such a scenario would jolt the markets severely due to the unexpected "mini black swan" event of having the US Treasury's debt hands legally tied behind its back. How long that situation lasts would be anybody's guess, but I am sure Bernanke must be calling Congress and the US Treasury and addressing this issue. It'd be like having your credit card physically taken from you out of the blue.

    On April 15th the US DEBT went up by nearly $35BIL that day and then it went up again on Monday, April 18th, so that now there is only a cushion of $37BIL left before the Debt Ceiling is reached. If this coming week is anything like the last week then in one day the Debt Ceiling would be breached.

    I can read all day about how the Debt Ceiling is irrelevant since we could exist on tax revenues for awhile or we could just take more funds out of various entitlement Trusts to get by, but I have not read anything about how QE2 would be dead in the water without legal Treasury debt issues to buy.

    Then again if Congress were forced to just live off tax revenues then all but three line items would need to be shut down. Most days there isn't even enough tax revenues to pay for the basic entitlement outlays, but the US Treasury can dip into its Federal Reserve Account which now has around $107BIL in it to get by for awhile. Never mind that what about QE2?

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