CTA Trading Desk Morning Report
[7:00am ET] Good morning.
A CNN news anchor has tried to explain that international equity markets abroad are well up on the back of yesterday’s strong move in the Dow 30. Hmmm, yes, the DJIA lifted 145 points (+1.21%), but today, like yesterday, the Greek banks are soaring because the shareholders believe the Greek Parliament will overlook the mass riots in the street of Athens today and approve a key austerity vote.
The major banks of Europe are also much higher and so too are the miners.


The move in the miners today and yesterday is partial confirmation I made the right decision to increase my goldminer portfolio to a weighting of 88.70% equities as at yesterday’s close. Two of my 23 holdings were up over +20% yesterday and two were up over +5%, which shows the potential moves in these stocks.
Thanks for this chart:
http://caracommunity.com/sites/default/files/marketstructure_2.png
I see the long-term-term cycle as being 2-2 whereas others see it as 3-1 or 3-2.
At 7:21am ET on Monday I responded to a comment from Mark H regarding a Chilean copper miner I thought had made a subtly good move on Friday. Here is the initial exchange from the blog, which was followed-up by Mark H to say he thought there might be “a change in trend about to happen”:

Antofagasta (ANTO.L) has definitely looked good this week:

http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=ANTO.L
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ks?s=ANTO.L+Key+Statistics
Of course, my key copper miner is Freeport-McMoRan (FCX $50.44, which is up from $48.43 on Friday). I will feel more comfortable about my substantial weighting in goldminers should FCX close above $52 today or tomorrow.
It’s always interesting to compare the key statistics of companies in peer groups. In this case, ANTO.L compares favorably; however FCX is a Cara 100 company because it trades in New York, where a large majority of the people in this community trade.
http://finance.yahoo.com/q?s=FCX
http://finance.yahoo.com/q/ks?s=ANTO.L+Key+Statistics
Having said that, you might consider a broker like Interactive Brokers that enables you to trade in many international markets, using different currencies, from a single account, at extremely low brokerage costs. Doing so would make many Americans and Canadians early adopters of what may become the “new normal” in personal account management.
Btw, I always thought I was an early adopter, but the news is out: Pope Benedict XVI tweets before Bill Cara. I am impressed.
What I am not impressed with is the news that Bank of America has agreed to pay out some $8 billion to eliminate a class action suit against the company for selling dubious mortgage-backed instruments to financial institutions. The question I have is will the BAC shareholders now sue the management and salespersons of BAC to recover the sales commissions and bonuses paid out on those fraudulent sales? And, having admitted an $8 billion fraud, will anybody at BAC be criminally prosecuted?
The important vote in the Greek Parliament is coming up in a few minutes. After the vote, compare the tables above (roughly 6:45am ET) to the post-vote prices. There could be a 'sell the news' period, and a subsequent pick-up in the rally.
Interesting question asked yesterday at CNBC: In order to facilitate a similar key austerity package that would put America on the path to a balanced budget, would individuals agree to all of the above – (i) +10% tax increase, (ii) -25% cut in government services, and (iii) a delay of two years to qualify for social security? My question is, if pushed that hard, would they riot in the streets?
The streets of Athens are looking very dangerous at the moment. There are anarchists among the legitimate trade union protesters, and nobody knows what will happen after the vote approves the austerity measures, as expected.
All eyes are on Greece.
Have a good day.
Here are the 7:00am ET snapshots of the latest equity market trading results for Europe, and futures prices plus 5-minute charts of the futures for S&P 500, 30-year US Treasury Bond, US Dollar index, Gold and Crude Oil.
| Symbol | Name | Last Trade | Change | Related Info |
|---|---|---|---|---|
| ^ATX | ATX | 2,675.00 |
Components, Chart, More | |
| ^BFX | BEL-20 | 2,536.92 |
Components, Chart, More | |
| ^FCHI | CAC 40 | 3,926.81 |
Components, Chart, More | |
| ^GDAXI | DAX | 7,296.54 |
Components, Chart, More | |
| ^AEX | AEX General | 328.74 |
Components, Chart, More | |
| ^OSEAX | OSE All Share | 463.49 |
Components, Chart, More | |
| ^SMSI | Madrid General | N/A | 0.00 (0.00%) | Chart, More |
| ^OMXSPI | Stockholm General | 347.87 |
Components, Chart, More | |
| ^SSMI | Swiss Market | 6,097.52 |
Components, Chart, More | |
| ^FTSE | FTSE 100 | 5,844.93 |
Components, Chart, More |
http://finviz.com/futures.ashx

http://finviz.com/fut_chart.ashx?p=m5&t=ES

http://finviz.com/fut_chart.ashx?p=m5&t=ZB

http://finviz.com/fut_chart.ashx?p=m5&t=DX

http://finviz.com/fut_chart.ashx?p=m5&t=GC

http://finviz.com/fut_chart.ashx?p=m5&t=SI

http://finviz.com/fut_chart.ashx?p=m5&t=CL
The team will check in during the day, reporting in the Discourse when there is a new entry.
Enjoy your day.
Cara on Trends & Cycles
Vad's Catch of the Day
Kaimu's Sound Money
CTA Trading Desk Mid-Day Report
CTA Trading Desk Post-Close Report
Good evening. Patrick here.
The Greek austerity vote passed as expected and US equity futures peaked (approx. 9 am eastern) as the final tally was counted long before regular trading hours commenced on the NYSE. Profit taking ensued during early morning hours – e-minis dropping almost -1% from their best pre-opening levels – before a slow crawl back to the early morning highs brought more sellers out of the woodwork as the popular averages look poised to finish lower on the session.
Oddly enough, a press release announcing a cap on swipe fees charged on debit card transactions produced gargantuan gains in MasterCard (MA+11.81%) and Visa (V+15.80%), seemingly invigorating the entire equity market as stocks floated back towards their best levels of the day as the closing bell sounded (S&P+0.82%).
Financial stocks (XLF+2.17%) got a boost on news Bank of America (BAC+2.88%) had settled a suit tied to their mortgage origination business back in the heady days of the housing boom, material (XLB+1.58%), mining (GDX+2.32%), and oil stocks (XLE+1.20%) also enjoying a day in the sun.
The S&P moved up towards 1310, but was unable to punch through resistance at 1315; testing the midpoint of the decline at the midpoint of the year…just a coincidence?
End of the quarter tomorrow and another austerity vote, plenty of crosscurrents leading into the 4th of July holiday weekend. If a sell-off materializes, first support is 1295 then 1285; above 1315 look for resistance at 1330.
Although we had hoped for a plunge beneath 1250 to carve out a low, market participants (PPT?) obviously were putting money to work at the 200-day moving average defending the 2011 low (1257) reached the first week of January.
Bulls have the ball; Bears need a turnover to get back in the game.
Have a great evening.
Comments
Newmont faces probe over Indonesia assets (NEM)
http://on.ft.com/kOWHLB
Re: Anto
Bill,
Thanks for the @mention. That chart has a bit of a "cup and handle" look to it.
Bill, "...having admitted an
Bill,
"...having admitted an $8 billion fraud, will anybody at BAC be criminally prosecuted?"
Loannetter posted a picture of the crony-operation yesterday:
Greenberger on Fed's Secretive Bank Loans
May 26 (Bloomberg) -- Michael Greenberger, a professor at University of Maryland School of Law and a former director at the Commodity Futures Trading Commission, discusses a Federal Reserve emergency lending program that made 28-day loans to banks from March through December 2008 with rates as low as 0.01 percent. The program's details weren’t revealed to shareholders, members of Congress or the public. Records of the lending were released in March under court orders. Greenberger speaks with Deirdre Bolton on Bloomberg Television's "InsideTrack." (Source: Bloomberg)
http://www.bloomberg.com/video/70203090/
My opinion still stands that, like BP, only token financial penalties with no jail time will be all we will get.
While I feel good about our most recent former governor being convicted (Blagojevich — Illinois) I see no changes in the system which produced him.
The same, I'm afraid, applies to the bankers. Our governmental system needs a massive restructuring and those who are at fault hold all the power and make the rules.
Grym
2 ways 2 follow Greece
I've downloaded Zattoo TV which I can watch through my browser. If anyone knows a better TV setup in a browser I'd like to know about it thanks.
http://zattoo.com
A live blog I've found to follow the day's proceedings suggest the vote will pass at this point.
http://www.france24.com/en/20110629-greek-parliame...
CNBC just suggested the vote passes by 2 voices at this time.
edit: CNBC analyst puts on gas mask for the camera. I dunno if she is having flashbacks to Baghdad or wants to freak out viewers. You can't make this stuff up.
The PM is on the podium giving his speech. The vote was supposed to follow this, but the opposition leader is up now. So it may come pre-market or during amateur hour.
To while away this time I found a vid of Jack Schwager speaking on winning methods of the market wizard:
http://traderhabits.com/2011/06/jack-schwager-winn...
Cara 100 Ratings Changes For POMO Wednesday
Good morning.
2-3 Billion Dollar POMO Injection Today.
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07:00 MBA Mortgage Index (-2.7%)
10:00 Pending Home Sales
10:30 Crude Inventories
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GILD - Gilead upgraded to Overweight from Neutral at Piper Jaffray after the company signed a licensing agreement with Johnson & Johnson (JNJ). Piper believes sales of Gilead's cobicistat could approach $500M and upped its price target for shares to $53 from $42.
NKE - Nike upgraded to Buy from Hold at Capstone citing the company's upbeat investor day and earnings. Price target is $105.
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"President Obama was in New York today. There was an awkward moment in Times Square when he saw the Naked Cowboy and said, 'Please tell me you're not a Democratic Congressman.'" -- Jimmy Fallon
Rubicon's F2 assessment estimates $739-million NPV
-13% premarket
The PEA is based on an updated mineral resource estimate containing an Indicated Mineral Resource of 1,028,000 tonnes grading 14.5 g/t gold (477,000 ounces of gold) and an Inferred Mineral Resource of 4,230,000 tonnes grading 17.0 g/t gold (2,317,000 ounces of gold)
RBY unhappy this morning.
down significantly premarket. A PR release of the "Preliminary Economic Assessment for F2 Gold System, Phoenix Gold Project" (I'm quoting Yahoo here) has been posted to Yahoo finance. I assume these were the numbers people here were waiting for:
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Rubicon-Minerals-Rec...
thoughts appreciated.
Sorry Greeks...
*(GR) GREECE PARLIAMENT PASSES FIVE-YEAR AUSTERITY PLAN - FINANCIAL PRESS
- Vote has exceeded the 151 yes votes required for passage
post-Greek trading
The European banks and miners are mostly unchanged, with a very small upward bias immediately following the vote. However, futures for equities, commodities and precious metals in the US are volatile and have fallen a bit.
Re: RBY unhappy this morning.
Hi All - Oh well - guess I will continue the long for the time being. Clearly a good deposit in elephant country - "If the data are not capped, the totals are 1.135 M tonnes at 17.2 g/t Au for 0.634 M oz for the Indicated category and 4.129 M tonnes at 21.2 g/t Au for 2.842 M oz for the Inferred category. Happy Trading
Re: RBY unhappy this morning
This is so reminiscent of the Golden Eagle merger a few years back in Red Lake. PEA disappointed, stock dropped, Agnico-Eagle took a minority stake and GG then stepped in with a full buyout shortly thereafter.
At $214M cap costs to commercial production, I just don't see RBY mining this.
RBY will be sold to GG at some point in the near future...unless Rob decides to make a play for it.
History in Red Lake seems to be on verge of repeating itself. It'll be interesting to see what Adamson has to say about this to a room full of semi-hostile shareholders this afternoon in Toronto.
But the question on everyone's mind remains: WHO BOUGHT ROB'S SHARES LAST OCTOBER?
I sure hope the longs voted "yes" on the revised poison pill...
Rubicon results
I'll be at the AGM today and report back in the morning.
A DKush had this to say at Stockhouse:
One last dive to get the punters out... My take: A very conservative PEA shows the worst case scenario value is 500 million, but there are at least three doublings possible. If you think spot price is appropriate, current market cap 100% justified based on a small part of the system and conservative assumptions... Bulk sample shows the gold is there, give or take. Grade capping top and bottom understates the potential for the more highly mineralized parts of the system and for better recoveries. 2500 tpd shaft installed, so double the output if necessary. Small part of the system included, so if you think there are more than 3.6mOz in situ, then adjust accordingly. $500 all in costs - $200 million pre tax profit per annum at spot (who thinks gold is going to 1000?). Use the worst case, double the output and system size (8Moz) and it is undervalued at $5. Take their production and spot price, but with the larger system and it is undervalued at $10.. larger system, spot and full shaft utilization and it is undervalued at $20. Gold goes up, system larger than 8 Moz..... I think buying in at these levels is now a highly skewed bet to the upside, and if it plunges I'm putting more in... Just my .02, short term negative, but long term positive. Sleeping even easier at night now.
Re: Rubicon results
thanks. I'm hopeless with numbers but appreciate quick remarks like this.
sold the July 32 calls on SLW for +60%. The sell signal became apparent at the opening. Looking for new entry for 33 calls. SPY flashing me a sell signal here so not in a hurry. JMO.
Re: Rubicon results
Trading in the Euro and silver has been extremely volatile after the open.
US Pending Home Sales Index rose sharply
http://fidweek.econoday.com/byshoweventfull.asp?fi...
As promised last week by the National Association of Realtors which broke their own embargo on this data, pending sales of existing homes rose very strongly in May, up 8.2 percent to an index level of 88.8. Led by the West and Midwest, all four regions show respectable gains. Still, the gain in May fails to offset an even greater decline in April when the index fell a revised 11.3 percent. The index in March was at 92.6. But the NAR is very upbeat, saying May's data, which are based on contract signings, point to rising activity in the housing sector during the second half of the year. Next data on the housing sector will be construction spending on Friday.
Gold projected to go higher
Suki Cooper, precious metals analyst at Barclays Bank, projects average of $1560 gold for Q3, and is very positive in her remarks on BNN at this moment. She thinks silver is positive but least attractive of the pm group due to excess supply dynamics.
GDX:GLD
The relative indicator is actually gapping up today. Here is a chart using some of my preferred EMAs (22,45,90 day) showing that GDX:GLD is attempting to breakout for the first time since a failed rebound attempt at the end of May.
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=GDX:GLD&p=D&b=5&g...
Re: GDX:GLD
Also of note is that the RSI(14) on GDX:GLD is now above 50 for the first time since early April after double bottoming below 30 in both mid-May and mid/late-June.
Re: GDX:GLD
miners look good all round, even if SLW needs to rest here a little. Long July 33 calls.
Ten year yields blasting through resistance. Curious to see if that holds into close.
MITK
I forget who gave the heads up... it is up another 15% today... a big thanks
Re: MITK
Scott > Yep MITK is a beast. Don't sell it man. They have a monopoly on mobile check deposit.
NLS
NLS really getting going here....there was no fundamental reason for a 50% drop in share price...the only reason it dropped was because of forced selling by its largest shareholder, who had to distribute shares as part of a pre-arranged agreement when they removed the CEO.
the market has worked out who pays for Greece
http://www.finviz.com/futures_charts.ashx?t=SI&p=m5
Having been released from the shackles of opex, the metals are flying.
http://jessescrossroadscafe.blogspot.com/2011/06/g...
Re: MITK
My data provider must have displayed a false print... the 15% wasn't accurate... but satisfied nonetheless
BEXP
Hi All - The bean counters consider this to have a 38% EPS growth going forward supported by tests seeingly completed weekly to wit: successful completion of the Gobbs 17-8 #1H Montana Bakken well at an early 24-hour peak rate of approximately 1,818 barrels of oil equivalent (1,544 barrels of oil and 1.64 MMcf of natural gas) after being fracture stimulated with 36 stages. The Gobbs 17-8 #1H, which is located approximately 16 miles west of the border between North Dakota and Montana in Roosevelt County, represents Brigham's second best early peak rate in Montana, relative to Brigham's Johnson 10-19 #1H which is located just under five miles from the border. Brigham anticipates that it will complete and bring on line to production four additional Montana Bakken wells over the next several months... and this is the Montana side with lower IP rates. Sure there are decline curves, but BEXP seems on a roll. Happy Trading
finaly miners are showing some action
It took a while to restart this cycle!
FD: long miners, UNG and short dollar.
stringing together
Looks like SPX has managed to string together three up days in a row. And miner/metal numbers are looking even better today. Risk back on?
Re: MITK
Sadly, I was stopped from my position before it could work. Even more sadly, MITK was not the only one. FCX was another.
Re: MITK
$copper - completely forgot about it.
Bill spoke of base metals picking up in order to suggest improving trend, JJC suggests this to be the case today. FCX over 52. It's a done deal.
Re: MITK
More than copper picking up, it was important to note that copper never broke down. That was the canary.
Re: MITK
yeh. Another criteria, XLY:XLP discretionary/staples looks good too. It's not a rally based on defensive sectors, although Semi's are lagging.
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=XLY:XLP&p=D&b=5&g...
GCP 160%
ALOHA!!
GOLDMINCO(GCP:TSXV)-One of my junior positions is being bought out by one of my ASX listed mining companies STRAITS RESOURCES(SRQ:ASX) for a 160%+ gain. In 2008 I met with Straits Resources execs on my Australia trip to Perth and we spoke about GCP, I bought shares after that meeting. Their offices on Ventnor Street were one floor below Barrick Gold Aust. At least some mining companies are taking action to buy some of these discounted junior share prices. Sometimes it pays to look and see what juniors the mining companies hold major share positions in.
STRAITS RESOURCES LIMITED ANNOUNCES BID FOR REMAINING SHARES OF GOLDMINCO CORPORATION
Perth, Australia – Straits Resources Limited (“Straits”) announced today that it intends to make an offer to acquire all of the issued and outstanding common shares of Goldminco Corporation (TSX-V: GCP) (“Goldminco”) that it does not already own at an offer price of Cdn$0.10 in cash per share. Straits currently owns, directly or indirectly, approximately 71.33% of the issued and outstanding common shares of Goldminco. The offer price represents a premium of approximately 82% over the closing price of the common shares on the Toronto Venture Exchange on May 24, 2011, the last trading day prior to this announcement.
Straits has entered into a lock-up agreement with Anglo Pacific Group PLC (“Anglo”), the second largest shareholder of Goldminco, pursuant to which Anglo, subject to certain limited exceptions, has irrevocably agreed to deposit and not withdraw its and its affiliates common shares under the offer. Anglo owns, directly or indirectly, approximately 17.01% of Goldminco.
Provided that Anglo deposits its common shares under the offer as required by the terms of the lock-up agreement, Straits will have a sufficient number of common shares to acquire all of the common shares not deposited under the offer by way of a subsequent acquisition transaction. Straits currently intends to proceed with a transaction to acquire the balance of the common shares following the completion of the offer.
7 year bond foundered along with the earlier auctions
Maybe that "trade of the Century's" time has come!!
from Bloomberg.....
http://www.bloomberg.com/markets/economic-calendar/
Highlights
Treasury supply may finally be getting ahead of demand. That's a conclusion that can reasonably be drawn from this week's poorly received string of coupon auctions including today's $29 billion offering of 7-year notes. Coverage of 2.62 is light for this issue while the high yield of 2.43 percent is three basis points over expectations. In a sign of weak retail demand, dealers ended up taking down an outsized 56 percent share of the offering. Demand for Treasuries is sinking following today's results.
Disc. Long a few TBT shares
Re: 7 year bond foundered along with the earlier auctions
Fourth day in a row and MSM is finally noticing. Good volume again, TLT is not looking good. If not for the Fed, who is that marginal buyer of 20 year treasuries yielding 4% - when CPI-U was over 5% during this last quarter?
One thought: it could just be an unwinding of the "flight to safety" from the whole Greece affair also.
End of quarter remodeling?
Let's not start kissing each other yet. Remember, this is the end of the quarter when fund managers need to make an impression by dressing up their windows....and it's the supposed end of QEII.
This move has still been on low volume and those types of moves tend to run up above resistance and then run out of gas. Soooo, everyone may want to be trailing those stops a bit tighter than usual going into July, see if we make new highs and then think about a dip before getting all enthusiastic.
I see the canary, AAPL is flat today. I'm just sayin'.
If we see a ST trend reversal I'll be as happy as anyone, but I'm not counting my chickens quite yet.
Re: End of quarter remodeling?
"Let's not start kissing each other yet"
Ever the sober realist eh Craig? :)
I actually just sold off SLW calls for the 2nd time today at +40% profit. Something akin to a sell signal being generated here. Specifically SLV's hourly MACD reading is being blocked at the 0 line, remaining negative.
That's twice in two weeks that I've managed $400 days with SLW and I am stuck somewhere between Vad and Bill's position - eager to book some profits while letting other positions develop. Something I'll have to work out for myself.
I'll watch things into close to determine whether I want to take up another position today. Still holding December 45's.
Cut my RBY holding in half. The fundamentals look ok but the investor response today is not.
Judging by UXG, looks like some profit taking happening here. Let's see if support at these levels hold. Ditto the indexes.
*(US) FED STAFF CHANGES
*(US) FED STAFF CHANGES PROPOSED INTERCHANGE FEE RULES; RAISES PROPOSED FEE CAP TO $0.22 V $0.12 PRIOR; VOTE DUE SHORTLY
- $0.22 cap plus a 5bps allowance for fraud losses, excludes three party systems such as AXP from the payment card network competition reforms
- Proposals require debit card transactions to be moved through two unaffiliated networks
(V and MA are halted, circuit breaker. Idiocy in action)
Re: *(US) FED STAFF CHANGES
(V and MA are halted, circuit breaker. Idiocy in action)
Having seen MA behave like that, I was wondering what mischief a Wall St. shark can do by ripping a stock up or down and having the SEC freeze it.
I can't think of anything off the top of my head, but I'm sure someone will find good reason to misuse the rule.
These credit cards and Nike yesterday. Some strange behaviour happening here.
BAC
Guys: what else is overhanging BAC now? They had two huge hurdles cleared in the past 24 hours:
(1) the mortgage debacle via Countrywide legacy mortgages
and
(2) Debit-card interchange fees issue that just got cleared
Now is THE time to be a buyer of BAC in my mind. I think it's clear to run up big now for the remainder of the year. Big as in high teens....
Taking a ride on RBY
I looked at the weekly 1 year chart and I see a big volume week in early December so I'm looking for this to be an island bottom and at least a retest of the trendline off the top @6.34 to about the 5.75 level. Ny stop below the mid October low of 3.45 and I am in at 3.82. Risk reward looks good to me
Re: *(US) FED STAFF CHANGES
Why strange? It's just reaction on news... volatile stocks, big move.
Re: *(US) FED STAFF CHANGES
I dunno. The sort of action I note in small bio-pharma, not in big consumer sector stocks pulling themselves off a bottom. But I have no experience in these things. I guess that's why these companies are market leaders. Eager to see how EOQ plays out.
Unfortunately I don't have the means to short MA, cause like NKE yesterday it's gonna pull back inside the BB's tomorrow.
Re: Taking a ride on RBY
RBY: in @ $3.66 just before the close, TDAmritrade showed a $.05 gain although others show close at $3.67,$3.91.
Big volume.
Good day for the rest of my portfolio.
Ciao, Z.
Re: BAC
Hi Team... you could be correct, but other legacy legal problems may be lurking... there is a mountain of foreclosures they really still haven't dealt with, and the problems in Europe are just a taste of what awaits the US ( see Flecks 'The Coming Funding Crisis ' )...
Re: BAC
I certainly don't have any confidence that the major US banks are accurately reporting what's on their books. They're still in the middle of extend and pretend. The amount of losses they are ignoring - hoping they will go away - its accounting storytelling, and we have no idea how fanciful the story is at each bank. Most likely its as big a story as it needs to be so that they can all look solvent.
The rules were specifically changed by their regulators to allow them to do this - so they could ignore losses and hope that with a lot of time and inflation, they could eventually blunder their way back to solvency (paying big bonuses to the executive teams for a job well done, of course - "but who else could we possibly get to run the company"?).
I think BAC might be good for a trade here and there, and chart-wise it looks like it might well be a buy, but the risk I see with these guys is that balance-sheet-wise they're likely toast, and if there ever is a black swan that forces a come to jesus moment, they close the doors, the shareholders get zeroed out, and the FDIC gets stuck with a whole bunch of suddenly less valuable than advertised assets.
I suppose it all depends on your risk profile, the holding period, and how likely you think such a black swan is to occur.
Re: BAC
Dave - Yes it does in part depend upon which side of the fence you sit: double dip or continued slow to medium growth, for the US. I guess I'm the latter. Buried in today's news, I found it interesting to note that BAC actually guided above street estimates on earnings for the quarter. Given the drubbing the stock has had for all of 2011 and 2010, I think its due for a nice bounce and is actually ripe for buying and holding. And typically what I've found with the leading sectors of a bull market is the following:
(1) They're almost never the leading sector of the next bull market
(2) They usually crash the hardest and ruin investor confidence in them
(3) They usually then have a really strong reflexive rebound and people jump back in, thinking the good ole times are here again
(4) After the rebound and people get excited reality then settles in
(5) After reality settles in, the sector begins to fade once again
(6) All the while news continues to be bad and sentiment grows even worse than before the crash and the sector really takes it on the chin
(7) It's at this time that its time to buy and hold
In most of the bull to bear markets that I've looked at, I've seen the same exact price pattern / sentiment / news flow...its the financials turn this time around and I think we're at point (7) above.
Anyone have experience looking for/mining/panning
for gold ?
See the Post-Close Report
Above.
RMX.TO here @ 3.60
RMX.TO here @ 3.60
Re: BAC
TOF -
Definitely if there's no more black swans to be had, and the Fed is able to engineer moderate inflation in domestic real estate without any effects from US debt issues, or european debt issues, we will eventually inflate our way out of our current mess and BAC's bad assets will magically turn good again.
My counter to this scenario: Japan. They tried exactly this approach, and their RE market just continued going down. 20 years later, it's STILL down. Their experience suggests you can't blow a RE bubble twice in a row, and an RE bubble is what BAC needs to come back.
One further observation. If we follow your 1-7 point model, (and another way of saying this is one of those wave things - wave 1 down, wave 2 rebound, wave 3 real capitulation), what BAC price points do you assign #2, #3, and #5?
I see the 2009 crash as point #2 ($2.5), point #3 is April 2010 ($17.5) and right now we're currently engaged in #5 in progress - wave 3 down. Next step: restructuring, a total zero. After that, THEN its time to buy banking.
Last point. You can't effectively value a company when the financial reporting regulations allow the reporting companies to lie wholesale about their balance sheets. In this situation, only the insiders know the truth. "Investing" in such a situation - simply gambling, in my opinion. Do you feel lucky?
Ok, the real last point. I think from a trading perspective, BAC might well make us all money if we bought it now, and our "holding period" wasn't too long, assuming nothing blew up in the interim. BAC has been hit hard, as you observe, and things don't move in a straight line to zero. I guess its all in the holding period.
But I don't feel lucky. :)
I took a haircut on Rubicon!
My internet went out overnight and I couldn't see what was happening! Sh%T!! I had to go to the Schwab office to see the destruction. I unloaded all my July $2.50 calls before they got killed but still took a licking. I also unloaded 25% of my RBY stock at $3.87 but rebought at $3.70 so I did recover a little. I am prepared to buy more at a sub $3.70 price. My average cost on the position is $3.97 so I can live with that.
I wonder if Bill went to the Annual Meeting. I'd like to get his comments if he did.
Re: RBY unhappy this morning
I have not seen the following info posted. If I overlooked it, my apologies. The Winnipeg Free Press reported the following:
VANCOUVER - Rubicon Minerals Corporation (TSX:RMX) and West Kirkland Mining Inc. (TSXV:WKM) have struck a deal in West Kirkland can earn a majority stake in gold mineral rights held by Rubicon in Nevada.
The deal, announced Monday, requires West Kirkland to spend between $5 million and $15 million on exploration over four years on the properties, which cover more than 900 square kilometres in the Long Canyon Trend of northeastern Nevada.
The transaction between the two Vancouver-based junior miners also givers Rubicon a significant interest in any future discovery.
(BTW, I have posted before, but not recently and registered again because of obsolete/changed info).
Re: RBY unhappy this morning
Thanks Ben .... Appreciate the post since I saw the headline on that recently but did not read it. Today I did acquire RBY @ $3.76, the lowest price ever after trading it a few times. Thinking it's a longer term hold now. Buyout? P/E of 2 even based on conservative PEA?
75% Premium - Paying for the "Case" ? (Silver)
http://www.zerohedge.com/article/mint-start-sellin...
Re: BAC
Point #5 was last August...this is point 7, when everything about the company is bad, there is no good press, people won't touch it "with a ten foot pole", investor sentiment is terrible, and parallels to Japan are almost universally agreed upon.
And as far as Japan goes: they had a huge spike in savings and terrible demographics working against it. No one ever heard people say Japan is the land where dreams are made. Say what you will about our country, but people still want to live here and see this country as a land of opportunity. The continued population growth supports this.
Greek picnic on the beach?
Austerity is the talk on a cereal box. Religion is the smile on the bankster bag holder dogs.
The Papendaraupoopus familia mafiosa still run the country like the 2 bit third world generalisimos that they have always been. Bond bag-holders (eurotrash banking scum) get a cash infusion from frau Schmitt to pay the interest on Paribas debt while the Greek grape stompers get gassed as a reward.
The Turks must be laughing and sighing in relief that they were shunned for membership for so many years from that august body of Euro Nincompooperie.
Not that I dismiss the extravagant former/current socialistic hubris of the Greek welfare state. I can only condemn the eurocentric-idiocy of 'ALL inclusiveness' that caused them to 'look the other way' while the Greeks cooked the books! Seems similar in many aspects to our own system of checks, balances and (NON) regulation.
How will it end? It will end in a miasmic cloud of international interparty distrust. In short, very badly. But afterward, when we clear the pond scum and see the true reflection of ourselves, capital will once again be allowed to be allocated to its highest and best uses. This assumes of course that the system somehow rids itself of the international interventionalists who have used the public purse for personal gains. Perhaps I dream!
Chevy Volt: The Car from Atlas Shrugged Motors
http://www.cato.org/pub_display.php?pub_id=12892
redistribution of wealth...
Earl
Re: Chevy Volt: The Car from Atlas Shrugged Motors
ALOHA!!
In my book GM is MAIDEN LANE IV!!!
KINROSSED
ALOHA!!
Is that something like MUNSONED?
LINK: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q7ppc-08VG4
Did KINROSS pay too much for RED BACK? I would guess this news that they are optioning ten of their Red Back Ghanaian properties to ABZU GOLD might be a hint. Lightening the load so to speak! This news release came out after hours so it will be interesting to see what happens to Kinross(K:TSX) and Abzu(ABS:TSXV) tomorrow.
LINK: http://www.kitco.com/pr/1267/article_0629201116243...
Here is a one year chart that shows the junior share price is better off than the producer!
LINK: http://tinyurl.com/62o9xrt
It just seems Kinross just can't get out of its own way! Look at the two year(2Y) duration! Flat-lining would be an understatement!
FD: I own neither one ...
Re: Chevy Volt: The Car from Atlas Shrugged Motors
Hi Kaimu, agree, the first three were not enough. Timmy G was over these too I believe. Insult to injury, GM's GM wants the 50% paying taxes to kick in another $7500 tax credit for those who purchase one of these volts. That's also redistributive.
Regards
Earl
Re: Greek picnic on the beach?
Hi Ilya, (...dream) Me too, but we have our own MS13 cloud approaching; paint the towns boys, it's sanctuary city dayz...
Regards
Earl