CTA Trading Desk Morning Report
[9:15am ET] Good morning, Geoff here.
As I mentioned on Friday, the S&P 500 is trading in a range from roughly the August highs (which are now support) to the 200 dma above. I know those are not precise levels, but as Patrick says, we chart with crayons so please allow me artistic license here. If stocks trade lower today, the daily chart will show higher lows and lower highs which forms a triangle where the volatility tightens. We are not there yet, but it is something that I am looking at because as the volatility tightens, the moves out of such a formation tend to be strong.
Gold and related securities may also be forming triangles.
We are in wait and see mode for major portfolio changes based on the price action in said formations.
From the Week In Review:
“The ETF for Basic Materials stocks is XLB. These are the producers of commodities and related products.
XLB gained +0.54% W/W, closing at 35.17.
Tenaris (TS +2.8% W/W) was the sector leader.
Brazil’s Paper and Paper Products company Fibria Celulose (FBR -8.19% W/W) was the big loser, but I didn’t see why other than there was a lack of buying interest at the end of the week after the stock got hammered, along with most, on Wednesday. This company is a Cara 100, but has been badly affected by economic factors this year. Sales growth is very slow and margins have been cut. Earnings, which have been losses recently, will not be out until Feb 16, and are expected to be minimal. It’s one of those stocks that, if they can keep paying the dividend (presently yielding about 4.5%), would be a candidate for accumulation at these levels ($7.96 at the close on Friday). I believe that the stock could possibly double in the next 12-24 months.”
We started buying FBR on Friday and will probably accumulate more stock at various levels moving forward. However, that is not a recommendation to buy the stock, we don’t do that here. This stock pays a dividend but don’t get confused, this is not your father’s dividend paying stock – the beta is through the roof. If one is able to accumulate the stock into weakness and the company remains healthy, the dividend plus the future accumulation in the stock can make it a very profitable trade but if the trade goes against you, it goes against you hard so traders have to watch their risk closely in a name like this. We like the company, we like the dividend, and lets face it, emerging markets is where the growth is going to be so having exposure there is important. Now we just have to get the price right and if an increase in sales moving forward translates into an increase in profits, we will be in like Flynn.
Now, if the volatility can hold off for a few days, our triangle can form while I get caught up in non-trading related business…fingers crossed.
Have a great trading day!
Here are the 7:00am ET snapshots of the latest equity market trading results for Europe, and futures prices plus 5-minute charts of the futures for S&P 500, 30-year US Treasury Bond, US Dollar index, Gold and Crude Oil.
| Symbol | Name | Last Trade | Change | Related Info |
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| ^ATX | ATX | 1,941.00 |
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| ^BFX | BEL-20 | 2,101.52 |
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| ^FCHI | CAC 40 | 3,115.45 |
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| ^GDAXI | DAX | 6,015.51 |
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| ^AEX | AEX General | 298.08 |
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| ^OSEAX | OSE All Share | 442.85 |
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| ^OMXSPI | Stockholm General | 302.39 |
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| ^SSMI | Swiss Market | 5,639.87 |
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| ^FTSE | FTSE 100 | 5,516.06 |
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| FPXAA.PR | PX Index | 911.10 |
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| ESI500000000.MA | IGBM | 846.57 |
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| MICEXINDEXCF.ME | MICEX Index | 1,492.76 |
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| GD.AT | Athex Composite Share Price Index | 757.34 |
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http://finviz.com/futures.ashx

http://finviz.com/fut_chart.ashx?p=m5&t=ES

http://finviz.com/fut_chart.ashx?p=m5&t=ZB

http://finviz.com/fut_chart.ashx?p=m5&t=DX

http://finviz.com/fut_chart.ashx?p=m5&t=GC

http://finviz.com/fut_chart.ashx?p=m5&t=SI

http://finviz.com/fut_chart.ashx?p=m5&t=CL
The team will check in during the day, reporting in the Discourse when there is a new entry.
Enjoy your day.
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Comments
Econoday Today
RSI Summary as of EOD 2011-11-12
Accumulation Zone: Monthly 9, Weekly 3, Daily 0
Distribution Zone: Monthly 6, Weekly 7, Daily 2
Greek conservative leader: I won't back more austerity
Nov 14 (Reuters) - The leader of Greece's main conservative group Antonis Samaras said on Monday his New Democracy party would not vote for any new austerity measures and said the mix of policies demanded by international lenders should be changed.
"We will not vote for any new measures," Samaras told a meeting of his own MPs.
He added that he would not sign any letter pledging a commitment to austerity measures, as has been demanded by EU Economic and Monetary Affairs Commissioner Olli Rehn, and that a verbal pledge should be sufficient.
Spanish 10 year over 6%
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/quote?ticker=GSPG10Y...
Whack-a-mole with sovereign debt. Italy and France both gaining a little too.
Re: Spanish 10 year over 6%
Let the games resume!!!!!
Re: Spanish 10 year over 6%
Les,
Spanish CDS underperfomed at the end of last week.
Btw, did you see hit Petrobras took on weakness in the BRL?
http://buswk.co/rPQd3z
Cara 100 Ratings Changes For Monday
Good morning.
PFE - Pfizer downgraded to Market Perform from Outperform at Leerink citing valuation and limited pipeline catalysts in 2012. The firm keeps a $21 price target for shares.
TEF - Telefonica downgraded to Neutral from Overweight at JP Morgan.
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"I'm all in favor of keeping dangerous weapons out of the hands of fools. Let's start with typewriters." - Frank Lloyd Wright
Re: Spanish 10 year over 6%
Yap, all PIIGS are over 6% now. Ranging 6-28% to be exact. Can you put so many fires at once?
Merkel Eyes Constitution Revamp to Boost EU Powers
Germany's constitution is highly respected, but it also obstructs the transfer of power from Berlin to Brussels -- a fact that has hindered the rescue of Europe's common currency. At the CDU's party conference this week, Angela Merkel may push for an overhaul of the Basic Law in order to hasten euro bailout efforts.
Re: Spanish 10 year over 6%
Mark all CDS's should logically now under-perform, given the "this is not a default" haircut that EU entities are now playing on the PIIGS. It means "sell this sovereign crap".
Is the spike in Spanish debt here an anomaly or the continuation of a cascading event which the ECB is trying to stop while still in denial about their status as lender of last resort?
vis a vis Brazil, currency wars are nasty. I imagine the puppeteers will pull strings to arrange a new currency and trade pact, when they're finished with the present regime. Until then, everyone buckle their seatbelt...
Re: Spanish 10 year over 6%
Sorry, should have been more clear. I meant it underperformed its PIIG counterparts at the end of last week.
No growth in Q3 GDP. Also, Spanish banks borrowed €76bn from ECB in Oct, up from €69.3bn in Sept
During the boom years, a lot of newly created Spanish jobs were in the construction industry. The question is: Where do the jobs which will be needed to replace those come from?
friday short trade is working
so far.
AAPL
going long with a few Feb calls this morning. Bill said to pick 5 to follow and this is one of mine.
bclund
Green hammer on the 15 min on $AAPL. Will get long above the top of it at $383.40 w stop at LOD. First target $388.00
Re: Merkel Eyes Constitution Revamp to Boost EU Powers
tradylady,
"Angela Merkel may push for an overhaul of the Basic Law in order to hasten euro bailout efforts."
The German part of my ancestry hopes to see the Volk push Angela unter der VolksWagen bus and put in someone with better sense and integrity.
Grym
This is big. Inside trading is legal for politicians!
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/congressional-inside...
One word: WOW!
The system is more corrupt that I ever imagined.
Someone needs to notify the OWS folks.
Sovereign Credit-Default Swaps Chart
http://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/image...
Re: This is big. Insider trading is legal for politicians!
60 Minutes did a great job on this last night. Nancy Pelosi & her husband have participated in 8 IPO's including VISA where they got ample stock. When Steve Kroft asked her a question about it at her press conference, she got visibly upset and essentially evaded answering (Read: LIED).
Simply put, these people are double-talking scum.
Here's an excerpt:
"Congressmen and senators also seem to have a special knack for land and real estate deals. When Illinois Congressman Dennis Hastert became speaker of the House in 1999, he was worth a few hundred thousand dollars. He left the job eight years later a multi-millionaire.
Jan Strasma: The road that Hastert wants to build will go through these farm fields right here.
In 2005, Speaker Hastert got a $207 million federal earmark to build the Prairie Parkway through these cornfields near his home. What Jan Strasma and his neighbors didn't know was that Hastert had also bought some land adjacent to where the highway is supposed to go.
Strasma: And five months after this earmark went through he sold that land and made a bundle of money.
Kroft: How much?
Strasma: Two million dollars.
Kroft: What do you think of it?
Strasma: It stinks."
It sure does...social inequity in action at the highest G-D levels.
Re: Merkel Eyes Constitution Revamp to Boost EU Powers
Grym,
auch meine
anyone doing prez elections early?
Ie. placing the Obama trade on intrade?
I did (sold some shares).
It's about 50/50 now:
http://www.intrade.com/v4/markets/contract/?contra...
Cognitive Dissonance...the International Big Lie?
Lots of weekend discussion on not everyone's favorite tale.
Those looking for actual data may find this interesting.
http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2011/11/a-global-view...
Barry asks: Question: "How did Europe and Asia and Canada all have a simultaneous housing boom as big if not bigger than that of the US?"
"Were the Australians compelled to follow the CRA? Did Barney Frank influence the Belgians? Were the US GSEs effecting policy in the UK?"
"Or might some other factors — like ultra-low rates, excess leverage, demand for junk AAA-rated paper, misaligned incentives, and/or derivatives have been at play?"
The chart is informative.
Re: Spanish 10 year over 6%
This line goes up almost nonstop today.
Re: AAPL
well sold that - not looking too good at the moment.
Earl
Re: anyone doing prez elections early?
jack,
I must admit that I only recently found Intrade. Great concept as you can see what people are betting money on rather than just expressing opinions!
Re: This is big. Insider trading is legal for politicians!
Pelosi just tweeted saying that she was the speaker of the house that Credit card industry feared most with a link to Media Matters website...here is the link that was referenced http://mediamatters.org/research/201111130006
Re: anyone doing prez elections early?
Oh boy, the ultimate Black Jack table Jack Black LOL. Why not!
Re: anyone doing prez elections early?
for the full disclosure, I need to say I sold his shares (I guess calls) due to my belief that recession is coming in 2012. No president can be reelected during recessions.
Re: friday short trade is working
sorry duplicate, PC hiccuped
Re: friday short trade is working
indices are slowly filling the Friday gap. Will cover when gap closed.
Re: This is big. Inside trading is legal for politicians!
OMG! that's just not good.
Re: friday short trade is working
Nice to read your shorts are black jack black.
What happened today? LOL! Read this....
"Permanent EU Bailout Fund Off Limits Until 2013"
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-11-14/permanent...
And everyone thinks WE are dysfunctional? I think it's a toss up.
We may win on corruption.
Re: This is big. Inside trading is legal for politicians!
This has been known for a while.
You should hear what politicians make in DC as consultants. We are talking $700k per yr +.
Money in politics? Money is politics.
Hussman on Gold
Hussman's latest is as always a great and sober take on the market. His comments on gold vis a vis USD appreciation are spot on imho.
I find no material support for his comments that gold miners are now attractive because of their historic low valuations to gold. But I believe at some point the situation will change, just not while the USD remains strong, I suspect that between hedging programs, options and other exotic share agreements in the miners, they will continue to disappoint relative to gold .
http://www.hussmanfunds.com/wmc/wmc111114.htm
As always, our hedging reflects the overall return/risk profile that we observe at any particular time. Presently, we do expect some potential for additional "flight to safety" movements toward the U.S. dollar, but not enough to hedge off all of our currency risk.
As for precious metals, gold prices tend to be inversely correlated with the dollar provided that gold prices are relatively stable in foreign currency terms. At present, we observe continued upward pressure on gold prices in foreign currency terms, so even the prospect of a stronger dollar doesn't necessarily imply weakness in the dollar price of gold. Moreover, gold equities are near record lows relative to the metal, and combined with other factors, we continue to gauge the Market Climate in precious metals shares as very positive. Strategic Total Return continues to carry a duration of about 3 years in Treasury securities, with a few percent of assets in utility shares, and about 20% of assets in precious metals shares, which account for most of the day-to-day fluctuations in the Fund at present.
Re: This is big. Inside trading is legal for politicians!
Hi NYUGrad - I’m a member of the hoi poli, why would I know this? Like someone said before - someone needs to tell OWS.
Edit - I mean about this hitherto ignoble seal over this information. I shall consult the Oracle of Orange Texas, Michael Berry.
Earl
Re: This is big. Inside trading is legal for politicians!
I knew about consultants and lobbyists. At least they have to work (ie make some phone calls to buddies).
Inside trading is very wrong and creates a whole slew of conflicts of interests. Like the example of the guy who wanted banks to fail as he shorted them.
Re: Cognitive Dissonance...the International Big Lie?
Regarding the housing boom, I think the Tech crash of 2000 burned a lot of investors which were further burned by the downfall after 9-11. As financing became loose, it greased the wheel for the real estate boom. In retrospect, buying the Dow in 2003 was the trade but many didn't want to touch stocks after what had happened. Thinking real estate was a safer investment, consumers piled into real estate. Many thought they could make up their losses in stocks via home ownership. How many times did I hear " Real estate never goes down in price"
How'd that work out? Stocks have, in general, gone nowhere in 11 years Calculate inflation into the equation and stocks have been a looser. Inflation wiped out any puny dividend return stockholders received. Only those who were adept at trading or who bought gold fared well.
Why did it spread around the world? Monkey see monkey do.
Re: This is big. Inside trading is legal for politicians!
Tell Congress to do something worthwhile....for a change!
"The U.S. House of Representatives: Tell Congress to Pass HR 1148 Stock Act Now!!"
http://www.change.org/petitions/the-us-house-of-re...
Re: This is big. Inside trading is legal for politicians!
thanks Learn2invest - I signed the first one - not the second two - don't know enough about them.
regards,
Earl
Wheat Shippers Battle for Sales_Global Grain Glut Expands
"... World production of wheat, the most-planted grain by area, will gain 5.3 percent to 683.3 million tons, the second-biggest crop ever, the USDA forecasts. The FAO predicts a 6.1 percent increase to a record 691 million tons. Global stockpiles at the end of this season will advance 3.6 percent to 202.6 million tons, the highest in a decade, the USDA estimates.
Prices that dropped 20 percent to $6.3675 a bushel (172 euros a ton) in Chicago this year will decline as low as $5.90 by the end of December, according to the median estimate of nine analysts and traders surveyed by Bloomberg earlier this month...."
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-11-14/wheat-shi...
Hmm, tell that to Costco and the price on a loaf of bread
Silver Production
While listening to one of the Financial Sense reports this weekend, there was some discussion about silver.
Estimated production including scrap and recycling is about 1,000,000,000 ounces of which 810,000,000 oz are used by industry. That leaves 190,000,000 ounces available for other demand... primarily investment demand.
With the world's population now 7 Billion, it is easy to see how supply could become in deficit. If 25% of the world's citizens wants to purchase one ounce of silver, we're short over $1.5 billion ounces. If the world experiences significant commodity inflation in the future, would it be outrageous to see perhaps copper take on monetary characteristics to satisfy demand from the masses? Perhaps, unless someone invents a paper currency that is not fiat.
Crocodile Gold
For Crocodile Gold (CRK.TO), the 3Q11 operating & financial results disappoint, and Raymond James drops their 12-month target price to $1.30 but maintains Outperform rating.
Revenue: Reported at $30.8 mln on the sale of 17,900 ounces of gold vs. our estimate of $29.6 mln and 17,329 ounces. The average realized price was US$1,714 vs. our estimate of US$1,706 (Exhibit 1).
Costs: Operating costs were $30.5 mln or $1,673/oz, far more than our estimate of $23.9 mln or $1,382/oz gold. CRK attributes the high cash costs mostly to lower head grades of the ore processed (1.09 g/t vs. our estimate of 1.34) which added about $250/oz, but also the higher AUS dollar (contributed $60/oz) and higher diesel prices ($26/oz). Management believes that as the higher grade ore from Cosmo begins to make a significant portion of the processed ore in 2012, the cash costs per ounce will have a significant drop. EPS-Adj came to $(0.02) vs. our estimate of $0.00.
Production: CRK produced 18,186 ounces of gold vs. our expectation of 17,329. Crocodile has reduced their guidance again and now expects production of 66,000 to 69,000 ounces of gold in 2011 (originally 85,000 to 100,000) Going Forward: CRK is likely in for a tough 4Q11 and 1Q12 due to the rainy season hampering open pit productivity. We still believe Cosmo is Crocodile’s savior but we will have to wait until full production expected in 3Q12. From discussions with management, progress continues underground with test mining rounds having been taken in the ore zone aimed at testing ground conditions and ore predictability.
Valuation: Crocodile’s projects have a total NAV of $405 mln, or $1.26 per fully diluted share. With our P/NAV multiple of 0.9x (in-line with our average producer P/NAV of 1.1x and the historic gold producer trading range of 1.2x-1.8x P/NAV), combined with a corporate NAV of $58 mln or $0.18 per fully diluted share, our target price on CRK falls to $1.30. Our NAVPS of $1.45 implies a market P/NAV of 0.28x, far below the industry average. On an EV/oz basis, CRK trades at US$13/oz of gold vs. its gold producer peer group average of US$158/oz. CRK currently has $49.2 mln in cash.
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FD: I have a small position. This is disappointing, but I am not walking away. Based on P/NAV, I might buy a little more at about current depressed prices, but have not done so yet.
Re: Cognitive Dissonance...the International Big Lie?
Hi MoKat - (Only those who were adept at trading) sounds like congress and the cesspool of civil service engulfing them found a way to adapt, maybe that ‘way’ has been there from day 1, who knows. It looks like I need to get tight with a congressman.
I believe your housing boom analogy is right on – I did exactly that.
Earl
Re: Wheat Shippers Battle for Sales_Global Grain Glut Expands
The USDA is as bad as the CBOE in the accuracy of their forecasts.
The current Thai flooding may do a number on the price of rice for a while, as they produce 12% of the world's supply. More food inflation for billions of hungry Asians who can't afford it.
Re: This is big. Inside trading is legal for politicians!
Congress critters have ALWAYS been exempt from insider trading regs. This ain't new news but I suppose that it hoists another target for the 'againers.' Not that I blame them!
Re: Cognitive Dissonance...the International Big Lie?
"Why did it spread around the world? Monkey see monkey do."
Add historically low interest rates which encouraged real estate buying. In Canada though there was no orchestrated push for lending to everyone with a pulse and while standards certainly got relaxed a bit, they never went as low as in USA. As a result, while of course not immune to future shocks, Canada still had no appreciable housing price drop.
SVM
Anyone reloading on this miner now that its back to 50 ema or it premature to do so?
I feel like its kinda in the doghouse since its earnings release but wasn t so bad imo
Any buyers?
Billy Sundance
Sorry I did not get back with you ( dndn ).. she will have to wait on Q over Q, ut it ain't going away.. mdvn a good ways from production.. regenerative bio's and chemo medical delivery ... So very many things going on in their world.. 2012 and 2013 will be happening.. short list of favorites.. best to you, baz.
Argex Mining (RGX.V)
http://argex.ca/documents/02168-Argex%20Mining-rep...
I spoke at Whistler about Argex Mining. I have a small position in it and believe that it could be a significant winner. It's probably the most junior of any of my holdings, but I like the property.
AAPL
Looks to be at the 200Dma It looks like that line is a good level of support.
Time to Buy?
Re: Hussman on Gold
Jeff B,
"...about 20% of assets in precious metals shares, which account for most of the day-to-day fluctuations in the Fund at present."
An impressive increase — not too long back I remember he was at only 8%. (In the spring, farther back than I thought.)
Grym
Re: Hussman on Gold
ALOHA!!
Yada ... Anyone who suffers from severe USD TUNNELVISION need only look at this chart to see just how well the US FED STRONG DOLLAR POLICY has worked out.
LINK: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Om0I7Ta8rS8/TmamLcW0ZBI/...
Looking at the TRADE WEIGHTED USDX I only see three currencies on that pie chart that should be there and I am counting the Euro as a half. The rest are what I would term "dead weight" or rigged to favor the USD. I am sure this weighting was calculated by Goldman Sachs.
Here is a list of the top ten countries where the USA has the largest trade deficit as of Sept 2011:
1-CHINA
2-MEXICO
3-JAPAN
4-GERMANY
5-CANADA
6-SAUDI ARABIA
7-VENEZUELA
8-NIGERIA
9-IRELAND
10-RUSSIA
Wow ... we hear all day long about China and Japan, but Mexico? Numero Dos? Yes, according to the source, the US Census on Foreign Trade. Nigeria ... really? Venezuela and that Chavez? We're still greasing his wheels? Look at those Saudis they love our Treasuries! Some of our largest deficits are with Communist countries! What happened to the dominoes?
Shouldn't the USDX be weighted more realistically reflecting the USD's more accurate market value. We have run trade deficits and budget deficits and revenue deficits and the biggest deficit, moral deficits, for as long as I have been alive. Seems as if most of those deficit countries involve a gooey black substance that is pumped out of the ground!
So even with this weighty advantage the USDX still can't rise above its long term support, even as all of the EU is defacto default. The only market tether the USD has any more is the reserve currency futures theater and a short term "lesser evil" perception.
In terms of end users, as in the citizenry, heck the cost of a Thanksgiving dinner went up 13% this year. Or was it that STRONG DOLLAR POLICY that never was? Who do we thank for that? Truly there are no Pilgrims left and we are extremely short on real live "patriots" too! What we are full of in this country is NIMBY and PC up the yazoo! Only a ponzified debt based Nation has the time and the hubris to tell the rest of the World they need to up their PC quota and then say, "NIMBY you Pinko Commie Chinks!" Which is pretty much what Obama was saying over here in Hawaii when he was doing his "stand-up act"! Lets get one thing straight Obama. The Chinese invented gunpowder-the US Congress invented manipulation and they all have to have an Ivy League PhD in it just to get elected! The Pinko Commies got nothing on the US Congress when it comes to innovative, manipulative, moral and fiscal corruption. Is Congress down to a 5% approval rating yet?
Hummm ... only a $544.2BIL YTD trade deficit. Not bad for a days work!
LINK: http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/Press-Release/...
Govt by the people, for the people?
http://www.680news.com/news/world/article/299005--...
Italians just got the Full Monti.
Re: AAPL
Hi DB, I'm going to try again but I'm going to wait for ~360 area or a very sure sign of support. the candle sticks were not in my favor today that's for sure.
Earl
Re: SVM
Keeping my position. Selling some puts and playing with $8 and $9 calls for the volatility.
Doesn't seem to act very well considering good earnings and dividend news.
Re: Argex Mining (RGX.V)
Anonymous dumped some into my .37 stink bid last week. Hopefully I can 'luck' into some more.
Re: friday short trade is working
Thanks,
I covered before the close, despite the gap not filled yet.
Who knows what news bring tomorrow?
Besides, we are inching close to the lower boundary of symmetrical triangle that SPY formed in the last month.
Re: Crocodile Gold
Thanks Bill for digging this up and passing it along. No position at the moment but have won and lost on holding it in the past.
Evidence of a US Stock Market Downtrend: More Doom & Gloom.
Courtesy of Bill Bonner and the Boys
... Meanwhile, the big trend for the US stock market is probably down too. Just a guess, mind you. Why? We’ve given you the reasons…but since you seem to have forgotten, we’ll give them to you again:
…After 60 years of credit expansion, credit is contracting. That means less household spending, which means lower sales and fewer profits [normxyz: ECRI, for one, claims to have spotted that decrease in sales already…]
…A bear market began in January 2000. It never reached its rendezvous with a real bottom. Ergo, the ultimate bottom still lies ahead…
…Stocks rose since 1982…since 2000, they’ve been going nowhere. Now, it’s time for them to go down.
…Most of the ‘growth’ in the last 20 years has come from more and more debt at the household level. Now that debt is shrinking… growth should shrink too…
…There are 70 million baby boomers who desperately need to save money for their retirements. They used to borrow and spend…now, they will have to pay back and save.
…As credit grew, it took more and more credit to produce an extra unit of output. Adding more credit now will not help the real economy expand…
…The feds can’t engineer a recovery, because unlike a recession, the problem is not that debt is too expensive, but that they have too much of it already…
…As the economy softens, the feds take more and more of it into custody. The feds invest badly, leading to less real output…which must supports more and more zombies…
…The European economy is sliding towards another recession; this will hurt the US economy too…
…The whole world economy is weakening; it could drop into a worldwide depression… [normxyz: If Europe goes, can China be far behind? If China goes, can Japan and the "little tigers" be far behind? If Asia and Europe go, can the US be far behind?]
…Higher, persistent unemployment undermines consumer spending… [normxyz: As the middle class disappears and we go to a third world economy, assume permanent high unemployment, permanent recession, and severely restricted opportunity except for the rich…]
…House prices are still falling, which will further reduce household net worth and reduce both spending and risk-taking…
…Energy use in the US is falling…more inputs of energy do not produce enough extra output to pay for themselves…
…But energy use in the emerging markets is increasing, supporting energy prices and putting more pressure on US household budgets…
Read more: http://dailyreckoning.com/evidence-of-a-downtrend-...
Investment opportunity of a lifetime !!
http://www.colbertnation.com/the-colbert-report-vi...
here is the 60 min video from yest
http://bit.ly/stMWiq
if the majority does not care enough to do anything, who is to blame really?
GS on precious metals prices
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/goldman-sachs-rai...
Re: GS on precious metals prices
What is GS' track record? Their stock is not doing well lately.
Re: GS on precious metals prices
A big deal, as most houses have refused to go above the 4 1,200 level, thus setting expected PE's and P/S way to low... its a game of catch-up now, all in the time honored ' beat the number ' game...
Re: GS on precious metals prices
I don't doubt gold is good long term (I have a core physical position in gold and silver myself), but I would not listen to GS.
According to Bloomberg, GS has the most "accurate" analysts in the whole industry with only 38% correct calls:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2010-10-14/goldman-g...
Deal coming on fed deficit?
Crain's (Chicago):
Forget all that tut-tutting coming from the Beltway's smart set. A deal to cut the federal deficit by more than $1 trillion and avoid devastating cuts is on the way.
So say Illinois' two U.S. senators. (Note: 1 Dem and 1 Rep)
http://tinyurl.com/72gbhkn
Re: Deal coming on fed deficit?
I wonder what is it going to do to the markets?
Re: GS on precious metals prices
Yeah, know where you are coming from.. What I'm thinking, the more ' houses ' on board, the better. For various reasons, most # crunchers are still at 2010 levels per oz. This is keeping a lid on equity values. Even with adjusted costs for this quarter, Newmont is still producing gold at around $ 900/oz, and others are doing it cheaper. Something will give, probably when the price rises above $ 2,000... I don't know anyone, personally, that has more than 3 ounces of gold stashed away, and most people are catching on to the high taxes ETF holdings bring.
Re: Deal coming on fed deficit?
No doubt they will all voluntarily take pay and benefit cuts along with the rest of us. Not to worry, they can get along on their inside trading deals just fine.
Re: Evidence of a US Stock Market Downtrend: More Doom & Gloom.
normxyz,
While I tend to agree with the gloomy picture, the question which has haunted me for over a decade is "when?"
My first client began to export manufacturing jobs in the mid 1980s and it took 15 years for my city to really see the effect as a real problem.
Official data is still masking unemployment with a phony 9% figure. Housing crashed three years ago and nothing has been done to honestly value bank holdings and Fannie & Freddie guys just got bonuses. OWS protesters are being tarred as left-wing malcontents by much of the media and their complaints disregarded.
Inflation or deflation?
Good economy or bad economy?
Up stock market or down stock market?
All are time frame dependent. It's like comparing weather and climate.
This article is talking long haul outcome and most things take far longer than I ever expect.
Grym
I would not ignore the time of yr.
and the past history of higher prices in Nov/Dec.
in this low volume environment I would not be surprised with a rise in equity prices, when all it really takes are false rumors.
Santa Clause is getting his list ready.
But stay nimble. Until you see new highs above 1370 on the S&P, all rallys are suspect. Doesnt mean you cant profit off them though.
good luck
Right in my back yard
Hi All - How about this clip - even a progressive State may find this a blessing. Seems to me CHK entered a j.v. lately with the Chinese to fund development acreage held by CHK in this play. Driving through the countryside of Weld County, Colorado is a treat these days as a demonstration of reasonable resource development. Happy Trading
Based on the results of 11 test wells, Anadarko estimates that its share of the Horizontal Niobrara formation in the Wattenberg field holds 500m-1.5bn barrels.
http://news.investors.com/APOnline/Article/298399/...
Re: This is big. Inside trading is legal for politicians!
Last comment; Ilya you say this is not new - I get it. NYUGrad comments – (if the majority does not care enough to do anything, who is to blame really?). Well I’m trying to figure that out – who is exactly to blame. The 47% on the public dole, are they to blame? I don’t see that being reasoned. The 52% of ‘clueless’ Americans with their nose to the grind stone working to make ends meet, again I’m not connecting the rational. Simply, that leaves people in the know – ok so now we’ll make it public and leave it to the cannon fodder, move along – nothing to see here.
Earl
Re: Evidence of a US Stock Market Downtrend: More Doom & Gloom.
Rosenberg says we’re just 4 years into a depression that will likely last 7-10 years. He says the economy is likely to begin contracting again in 2012 and that the employment situation is going to deteriorate further. He calls the MF Global bankruptcy the Bear Stearns of 2011.
http://pragcap.com/are-we-in-a-depression
Re: Great Panther Silver
Great Panther Silver Reports Revenues Increaseby 46% to $16.3 Million, Earnings from Mining Operations Increase by 78% to $8.3 Million in Third Quarter of 2011
Looks like a good turnout for great panther for their third quarter, higher net profit... and looking to have a higher fourth quarter output
http://www.greatpanther.com/s/NewsReleases.asp?Rep......
Re: This is big. Inside trading is legal for politicians!
Earl,
It's a historical mess getting much worse in time, IMHO. Remember the Golden Rule: "Them that has the gold rules". That is the situation many of us are in.
TRP
Hi All - I am suprised some of you Canadians didn't express more indignation over the regime's delay of the oil sands pipeline. Now perhaps Salazar and Clinton can right this bogus delay given that TRP is proposing another route over the Ogallala acquifer. Happy Trading
http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5...
Re: GS on precious metals prices
Who needs GS's advice and guidance when honest men like Bill Cara still contribute to the common good.
Twiggs view
http://www.incrediblecharts.com/tradingdiary/tradi...
Re: This is big. Inside trading is legal for politicians!
You don’t understand, Congressman Pete Olson will be getting on this list of sponsors – to start with. We worked to get him elected. Anyway, that process has begun. We’ll let the hoi poli take care of this…
H.R. 1148: Stop Trading on Congressional Knowledge Act http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=h112...
BILL OVERVIEW
Co-sponsors: Hide Cosponsors
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Earl Blumenauer [D-OR3]
Steve Cohen [D-TN9]
Raul Grijalva [D-AZ7]
Kathleen Hochul [D-NY26]
Walter Jones [R-NC3]
Dennis Kucinich [D-OH10]
David Loebsack [D-IA2]
Louise Slaughter [D-NY28]
Niki Tsongas [D-MA5]
Re: Evidence of a US Stock Market Downtrend: More Doom & Gloom.
normxyz,
I don't have a real feel for how bad the MF'r Global thing can be or "is."
However, i agree with Bill's take as he presents a central bank consortium willing to print in order to avoid a Bear Sterns. He points to the POG as being part of his term, "proof of concept." Time will tell.
Re: TRP
Hi Luggie, I was communicating with a friend on exactly this. Not only are we dissing Canada on this, their production will crank up – it will generate long term relationships and the entire issue will take on a new life, a new way and Americans will be left out of who knows what may have developed. How much are the others involved (china…) paying to have it their way? I trust no one on this, believe no one on this. There is no ‘safety’ issue – all lies. Hey Canadians, I’d rather be standing with you, I’d rather this pipeline relationship develop. But there’s something out there that would have it another way.
Hey you west coasters – I smell an Exxon Valdez…
Re: GS on precious metals prices
dberryclan -
"Who needs GS's advice and guidance when honest men like Bill Cara still contribute to the common good."
Well said.
Re: Evidence of a US Stock Market Downtrend: More Doom & Gloom.
Of course we are in a depression. Until governments allow markets to CLEAR via foreclosures, bank seizures, and debt write offs, economies worldwide will continue to contract. At least the Western economies will.
In the meantime, fortunes can be made trading with and against volitility.
The statistical sugar coated pabulum being force fed to the electorate smacks of the desparation that is being felt in the marbled halls of POWER. The only way to cover-up a lie is with an even bigger bolder lie.
Sorry to say but when you expand the franchise to allow dole takers to vote, systems collapse. Working the votes is as simple as hiring Mad-Men using corporate or NGO dollars. If these guys can sell you bottled tap water, selling political solutions is a no-brainer.
Well, if Rosie is correct, we only need endure another 3 to 6 years of this comedia economicus. I tend to look on our current malaise as a belly laughable farce! I mean really! If you can winnow the grain from the chaff, every day presents another Moliere moment although the Three Stooges more probably reflect our current times...
Re: TRP
What I fail to understand is the lack of public indignation in Canada over the huge exploitation of the resource without regard to a higher degree of upgrading or seeking to value-add. Wouldn't there be much more to gain by refining in Canada and exporting the refined products? I know this sounds simplistic, but what is the economic argument that goes against this line of thinking? Canada should also be looking at pipelines and refineries that can deliver to other markets from it's own shores. After all, a lot of this Keystone XL oil is destined to be exported from the Gulf Coast, so why is the middle-man needed? One wonders if this pipeline debacle isn't telling us that at present the world IS awash in oil and it is politics and finance keeping the price high, not supply and demand factors.
Re: GS on precious metals prices
We need GS and the other big analysts to a) up their gold forecasts and b) then up their guidance on the guys digging the stuff up, but I imagine you guys know that already.
I note GS is pretty conservative in its estimates, only upping gold prices to an area already anticipated by Bill. Its silver call is for lower prices.
This suggests to me gold holding its own as an asset class (GS's forecast for gold prices only 10% higher than present futures) but precious metals will not yet enjoy an inflationary impulse as when $silver:$gold turns 'risk on' - see attached weekly chart.
"Support from the ongoing euro-zone financial crisis" would appear not to include the inflationary expectations of the ECB serving as lender of last resort. I would expect new guidance with target prices upped following such a policy change, as the ECB move would be mirrored by the Fed who has an excuse to continue their 'strong dollar' policy.
Euro not looking so hot overnight
good night folks. i suspect volume returns tomorrow
Re: Govt by the people, for the people?
But Monti, a 68-year-old economics professor, made clear that he intends to serve until spring 2013 elections, calling it counterproductive to say when he'd step down.
"If a date before (2013) is set, this haste would take away credibility from the government's actions," Monti said at his brief news conference. "I won't accept" such a condition, he said.
Right. The EU just got their man in place. No letting these two-bit Italian voters rig their cart to a new horse any time soon. Stability is the new EU catchword. Perhaps he should tell the electorate who the "I" is in as "I won't accept" - that should make them more amenable to austerity - not.
Non US economic data
for Nov 14 release
EU: Sep Industrial Production w.d.a. (YoY) up 2.2%; Industrial Production s.a. (MoM) down 2%
http://www.fx360.com/calendar/
NYPD Clearing Zuccotti Park, Tearing Down Protestors' Tents
NYPD Clearing Zuccotti Park, Tearing Down Protestors' Tents (story developing)
I hear helicopters circling, which is rare for 2am for the wall st area.
You can watch live
http://occupywallst.org/
EDIT:
Subways not stopping near Wall St.
Big garbage trucks moving in, cops throwing piles of belongings in.
Helicopter still circling
Apparently police handed out letter stating Brookfield Properties is no longer allowing the protest to be based in this privately owned park.
Post Close
Geoff spoke about, Puplava illustrates the mechanics of it - S&P target of 1350 should the triangle setup break out successfully.
http://www.financialsense.com/contributors/ryan-pu...
I notice TLT might be flagging for a breakout, although longer term its implications are still negative. Yet 115 remains support. See attached.
Looking at leader stocks, and trying to find the reason for GMCR getting trashed (overhyped with negative cash flows) I noticed one portfolio manager at Seeking Alpha calling Friday a suckers rally and giving one pertinent reason that is worth reminding here:
The same animosity and market turmoil that came with the debt ceiling fiasco is likely to accompany the debt super committee as its deadline of November 23rd approaches.
http://seekingalpha.com/article/307516-10-reasons-...
So we're 7 sessions from a new debt committee deadline and the market appears to be setting up for a breakout. That for me is reason enough not to anticipate the breakout aggressively. One could buy the bottom of the triangle with a tight stop for the short-term trader - see attached 4hr SPY chart.
I anticipate in future buying the October lows with a larger time frame chart and holding until said time frame shows me that the music has stopped (to quote Jeremy Irons character in Margin Call). I remember well the anticipation of SLW breaking out from its consolidation in September just before it plunged, fooling many. As the saying goes, Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice...
Non US economic data
CONSUMER PRICE INDEX (YOY) UK for October - marginally contracts
Actual: 5.0% Cons.: 5.1% Previous: 5.2%
RETAIL PRICE INDEX (YOY) UK for October - marginally contracts
Actual: 5.4% Cons.: 5.5% Previous: 5.6%
DCLG HOUSE PRICE INDEX (YOY) UK for September - in contraction since June
Actual: -1.4% Cons.: 1.7% Previous: -1.3%
ZEW SURVEY - ECONOMIC SENTIMENT - Germany for November
Actual: -55.2 Cons.: -55.3 Previous: -48.3
for the EU: Actual: -59.1 Cons.: -52.5 Previous: -51.2
TRADE BALANCE N.S.A. - European Union for September
Actual: €2.9B Cons.: €2.0B Previous: €-4.4B Revised from €-3.4B
GROSS DOMESTIC PRODUCT S.A. (YOY) (Q3) - European Union - marginally contracts
Actual: 1.4% Cons.: 1.4% Previous: 1.6% Revised from 1.6%
http://www.fx360.com/calendar/
These figures can be viewed in graphical form by looking in the "History" column, when you click on the particular statistic you're interested in.
Debt yields rising again
perhaps we can call PIIGS the F'nPIIGS - F as in France as it risks getting swept up in the debt saga. Spain up 3.5%, France and Italy up 5%+
http://www.bloomberg.com/quote/GSPG10YR:IND#chart
http://www.bloomberg.com/quote/GFRN10:IND
http://www.bloomberg.com/quote/GBTPGR10:IND
I think the British, in typical sardonic humour, sum up the Euro game quite well. See attached.