CTA Trading Desk Morning Report
[10:40am ET] Good morning. Geoff here.
September ended with the S&P 500 down more than 7% for the month and down over 14% for the quarter. Difficult sailing on volatile seas.
This weekend, I heard and read a lot of recession talk, particularly from those stating that the Economic Cycle Research Institute is forecasting a recession and how they have never been wrong, or something along those lines. From my perch, I'm not sure what the big deal is. First, if you look at work by other economists you will find a "slow growth" scenario, not booming economy, but not recession. Second, watching the treasury bond rally for the last 6-8 months is all you needed to know (bonds rally while yields fall, reflecting a slowing economy). Once again, I will note that months ago, the booming cry heard on financial TV was that the Chinese were going to sell all of their US Treasuries and you better not own any...then the bond market rallied over 20% at the long end. The games stay the same.
Bill mentioned in the Week In Review that; "If the NASDAQ does not break down, but instead leads S&P 500 to the upside in the next few days, I think the broad market is likely to lift, and Tech/Semiconductors will be a leader". He also stated; "If $VIX continues lifting, the S&P 500 will crash. For that to happen would take a Lehman-type collapse. Could that happen? Absolutely. The Greece treasury cannot continue to pay 20-25% on 10-year debt. If the market continues to push for it, Greece will go bankrupt, and along with it a serious bank failures. Do I think Greece will be saved? Yes; this is a financial problem more than an economic problem. In fact, if the Greek economy gets worse, there will be much bigger unrest there plus some all-out riots, and that will scare the other nations in Europe plus the UK, the US and even China to step up with a bail-out package".
So; which is it, a rally or a crash? At this point, we don't know because the stock market has been trading in a range for 2 months. However, a likely scenario for the week is a lot of negative news on social unrest, the economy leading to a selling of stocks going into the employment number on Friday. If we have a decent sell-off this week, we could get a nice rally off of the employment "news", just when many have thrown in the towel.
I remain cautious, but agree with Bill that traders need to be looking for value in both the broad equity market and especially the gold/silver miners where fortunes will be made in the future. I will be taking more bonds off the books and looking to place that capital into equities at value prices. Remember, with pain comes opportunity.
Have a great trading day!
Here are the 7:00am ET snapshots of the latest equity market trading results for Europe, and futures prices plus 5-minute charts of the futures for S&P 500, 30-year US Treasury Bond, US Dollar index, Gold and Crude Oil.
| Symbol | Name | Last Trade | Change | Related Info |
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| ^ATX | ATX | 1,896.00 |
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| ^BFX | BEL-20 | 2,103.00 |
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| ^FCHI | CAC 40 | 2,923.30 |
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| ^GDAXI | DAX | 5,379.88 |
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| ^AEX | AEX General | 274.77 |
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| ^OSEAX | OSE All Share | 392.02 |
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| ^OMXSPI | Stockholm General | 280.96 |
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| ^SSMI | Swiss Market | 5,454.93 |
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| ^FTSE | FTSE 100 | 5,044.83 |
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| FPXAA.PR | PX Index | 933.90 |
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| ESI500000000.MA | IGBM | 845.11 |
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| MICEXINDEXCF.ME | MICEX Index | 1,346.30 |
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| GD.AT | Athex Composite Share Price Index | 779.47 |
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http://finviz.com/futures.ashx

http://finviz.com/fut_chart.ashx?p=m5&t=ES

http://finviz.com/fut_chart.ashx?p=m5&t=ZB

http://finviz.com/fut_chart.ashx?p=m5&t=DX

http://finviz.com/fut_chart.ashx?p=m5&t=GC

http://finviz.com/fut_chart.ashx?p=m5&t=SI

http://finviz.com/fut_chart.ashx?p=m5&t=CL
The team will check in during the day, reporting in the Discourse when there is a new entry.
Enjoy your day.
Cara on Trends & Cycles
Vad's Catch of the Day
Kaimu's Sound Money
CTA Trading Desk Mid-Day Report
CTA Trading Desk Post-Close Report
Good evening. Geoff here.
Well, that was quite an ugly close. As I mentioned this morning, this week could end up being pretty negative with a bounce at the end. Fortunately, I had that thought last week, so I hedged 20% of the stock holdings in the All Weather portfolio on Friday, so the hedge had a nice day today. Our gold and bond holdings were up too, so although we were down overall today, we were no where near down as much as the S&P 500.
Also; a number of our holdings made new lows and were stopped out so our stock exposure has dropped to a level where we are looking to add - exactly what I mentioned last week as the plan. Of course, the difficulty lies in seeing the plan to fruition. I still expect to see another leg down, probably an emotional leg to shake the tree one last time and then I will be adding Cara 100 stocks to the portfolio with a focus on Technology, miners and replacing the material stocks that got stopped out of the portfolio today because they broke support.
With respect to the miners, gold held up today and $XAU and $HUI did not make new lows. I know that gold will get thrown out of portfolios should we see a sell off based on fear, but I think we are real close to a bottom in both gold and stocks. A fear based, ugly selling climax is what we need to both end the decline and get stocks to levels that will allow us to create real portfolio wealth, so although it doesn't feel good at the time to buy when everyone else is selling, experience tells me that is exactly what to do. At that time, we will see a reversal in the US Dollar and US Treasury bonds (topping) while risk assets bottom. We still own bonds, but I need to take those gains before they melt away. The printing machines will also probably start to hum again, inflating assets. Fortunately, we have cash to put to work, hopefully our timing isn't horrible because it doesn't have to be perfect.
Have a great evening, talk to you in the morning!
Comments
Econoday Today
RSI Summary as of EOD 2011-10-01
Cara 100 Ratings Changes For Monday
Good morning.
10:00 ISM Index
10:00 Construction Spending
15:00 Auto/Truck Sales
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AMZN - Upgraded to Buy @ Stifel Nicolaus due to its low cost position, sustainable growth, upside from Cloud and Kindle growth, and strong fundamentals. Target $280
FCX - Freeport McMoRan upgraded to Buy from Hold at Deutsche Bank citing valuation and a strong balance sheet. The firm lowered its price target for shares to $48 from $60.
FSLR - PT Lowered from $168 to $107 @ Stifel Nicolaus. Buy
GG - Goldcorp upgraded to Buy from Hold at Deutsche Bank citing valuation and a strong balance sheet. The firm lowered its price target for shares to $54 from $56.
KO - Coca-Cola downgraded to Neutral from Overweight at JP Morgan citing valuation and expectations for negative earnings revisions due to currency and the challenging macro environment. The firm lowered its price target for shares to $76 from $80.
KSS - Kohl's upgraded to Overweight from Neutral at Atlantic Equities based on new product launches and promotions which should help 2H11 sales. Price target is $62.
PG - Procter & Gamble upgraded to Overweight from Neutral at JP Morgan citing valuation and expected margin expansion from cost savings. The firm raised its price target for shares to $75 from $70.
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"Blessed are the young for they shall inherit the national debt." - Herbert Hoover
Greece to Miss Target Set by Troika
Greek finance ministry expects 2011 budget deficit will be 8.5 per cent of GDP missing the 7.6 per cent target set by the troika.
http://on.ft.com/oYxze4
SVM options activity to feature on today's CBOE Pre-market Pulse
http://bit.ly/q5ygEx
FT's Lex: Greece is a lost cause
http://on.ft.com/o9Ep2m
"The task now is not to save Greece, but to save the eurozone."
how low can copper go?
In trying to answer this question, I decided to look at the copper/gold chart, something I've never done before. If we take as given that gold is a good store of value, looking at historical copper/gold relationship might prove enlightening.
From the high in Feb 2011, copper:gold ratio has retraced 75% of its gain after the mid-Feb 09 lows. So if we're headed back to the dreadful days of March 09, we're 75% of the way there. It is curious that copper/gold bottomed 15 days before the SPX back in march 09.
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=$COPPER:$GOLD&p=W&b=5&g=0&id=p12705013411
Another interesting view is SPX in gold. Note that it has already blown through its march 09 lows by perhaps 13%, but then proceeded to rally somewhat.
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=$SPX:$GOLD&p=W&b=5&g=0&id=p34427737763
Introduction
I've been lurking and learning here for a while and decided to join the fun.
Background - Lost money in stocks in 89, lost money in Far East Mutual funds in 97, lost money in tech mutual funds in 2001. Made lots in gold from 2001 to 2009, but my 2008 wiped out half my retirement savings (with an advisor). I'm a retired teacher.
Someone asked about current sentiment last week. I'm nervous. Particularly after Achuthan of ECRI made the recession call Friday.
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-09-30/u-s-is-he...
I played the trading game over the summer with TNA and TZA, learning much from Vad. Going short now and doing less trading.
On gold, I'm bearish. I lost in 2008 holding gold. Now with the plethora of ETFs, selling gold is just a click of the mouse away. You don't have to go to a dealer or bank anymore, and a market crash may cause selling. But I have my buy list ready.
Greetings all. I'll post infrequently and my thoughts should be taken with a grain of salt.
US Transportation data shows economic strength
Road & Rail Data on the Go: Credit Suisse Keeping Score
• Week 38 railroad carloads marked a YTD high, coming in at just under 686k. Despite the unfavorable macro headlines, it is important to realize that four of the five highest weekly carload volumes on a YTD basis have occurred since Week 33 (8/20/11).
• On a sequential basis, industry volumes increased 2.0%. As an indication into the peak shipping season, BNI and UNP saw a decent sequential uptick in intermodal volumes during the week, in fact, the West Coast rails posted the strongest sequential uptick of all the rails during this week.
• On a QTD basis, metallic ores and minerals are up 8.6%, followed by chemical carloads, which are up 5.0%. Ag products and Coal continue to be the laggards, averaging down 6.8% and 2.8%, respectively, on a QTD basis. On a trailing four-week basis, U.S. carloads, excluding ag, coal and intermodal, are up about 4.6%.
• For the week, y/y carload growth by rail were as follows:
• KSU: +9.2%
• CNI: +3.8%
• BNI: +3.2%
• NSC: +1.6%
• CP: +1.4%
• UNP: +1.4%
• CSX: +0.4%
Re: how low can copper go?
interesting perspective. I looked at JJC's weekly chart and drew a line straight down the page to illustrate the stage of the decline that we are at compared to 2008. Of course history doesn't repeat the same. BUT, MACD crossover is key to going long with a perspective on EoY rally. A trigger will likely come along to turn that indicator. FWIW
Rebound today in miners?
Me thinks that after the margin calls are cleared today, we should rebound nicely.
The POMOs start today. Wonder what effect it's going to have this time around?
Re: Introduction
"I'm nervous."
Let other people be ruled by emotions. It will do you no good as a trader or investor. Work to become emotionally "ok" with any market. Money can be made when the trend is up, down, or even sideways (although sideways is a big weak area for me so I try to avoid trading that market type). People are biased to prefer upward trending markets, especially those who only trade equities. Upward trends are unbounded (profit is in theory unlimited), while downtrends can only go to zero, so that's perhaps one of the reasons for the bias (other than ultimately unwarranted human optimism).
The good news about this sideways channel in the S&P's is that it WILL resolve itself at some point. And in my opinion, the longer the channel becomes, the more important the directional signal will be when the channel breaks (in my opinion).
Gold: it would not surprise me to see gold churn around for awhile. It does that sometimes. In the longer term, the things that drive gold have not been resolved (and won't be, without revolution). I'll keep a small position in gold, and will then quickly build up that position if/when gold decides to start moving again. There are plenty of other things to trade while we wait on gold.
ECRI: Just remember that was a call on the economy, not on market direction:-) That said, copper is down another 1.5% this morning. Good times!
Germany will never leave the Euro
Late last week, there was a spike in random speculation that the German government was preparing to exit the eurozone—and that in fact, the Germans had gone so far as to print new Deutsche mark bills and mint new Deutsche mark coins. The fact of the rumor is no big deal—there are always rumors.
The fact that the financial community took such nonsense so seriously points to the big deal in this situation—the underlying worry that a lot of market participants are fearing: What if the Germans all of a sudden cry, “&%ç*"?!”, and let slip the bonds of the eurozone?
Can they leave the eurozone? Sure they can—anything is possible. But is it likely that the Germans will leave the eurozone? In a word, no—because they are a creditor nation. (more)
http://gonzalolira.blogspot.com/2011/10/germany-wi...
Re: US Transportation data shows economic strength
Loving the synergy, loving the data...I interpret this as "the world is not ending" kind of stuff.
See Geoff Goetz's Morning Report
Above.
REBECCA AND THE JECKYLL
ALOHA!!
Back in LA from Whistler. Great conference and I enjoyed meeting all the Caraistas!!
FYI ...
Rebecca Costa Countermeasures Show is on LIVE today, Monday, at 9AM PST. Her in studio guest is G EDWARD GRIFFIN the author of the infamous book on the history of the US FED .... CREATURE FROM JECKYLL ISLAND ...
Be sure to tune in as this is all about our money and the future of our children's money.
You may also blog in questions LIVE to Mr. Griffin and ask him questions about the US FED ...
I look forward to meeting him in person.
LINK: www.empowerme.tv
Re: Rebound today in miners?
"Across all operations in the schedule listed below, the Desk plans to purchase approximately $44 billion and sell approximately $44 billion in Treasury securities over the month of October."
http://www.newyorkfed.org/markets/tot_operation_sc...
Is this the POMO you talking about - net zero? Looks like operation twist to me.
In groups of 4
A friend of mine showed me 4 hour charts using CCI to capture key pivot points - a time frame I've admittedly come to enjoy. Not so short as an hour, which in this market captures little in the way of market direction, but not a daily chart either, so I can focus on the 1-3 session range and possible pivot action.
A logical higher time frame to accompany four hours is 4 days, which I did. And I noted something peculiar on GLD. Have a look. GLD has on many occasions found support at the 40MA in the 4 day chart. It's actually a nice predictor of a bounce. Why, I have no idea. It could be the bottom channel edge of the Andrew's pitchfork that GLD is bouncing along. I'm not sure but it something I will watch.
I also note the propensity of the 8MA to serves as support and resistance, as evidenced by the recent run up and drop in the $POG. Strange.
PMI Germany, EU & UK for September
PURCHASING MANAGER INDEX MANUFACTURING Germany
Actual: 50.3, Cons.: 50.0, ,Previous: 50.0
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PURCHASING MANAGER INDEX MANUFACTURING EU
Actual: 48.5, Cons.: 48.4, Previous: 49.0
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PURCHASING MANAGER INDEX MANUFACTURING UK
Actual: 51.1, Cons.: 48.9, Previous: 49.4, Revised from 49.0
http://www.fx360.com/calendar/
ISM Manufacturing & total Construction Spending - US
ISM MANUFACTURING (Sep)
Actual: 51.6, Cons.: 50.5, Previous: 50.6
The Institute for Supply Management (ISM) Manufacturing Index shows business conditions in the US manufacturing sector It is a significant indicator of the overall economic condition in US.
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CONSTRUCTION SPENDING (MOM)(Aug)
Actual: 1.4%, Cons.: -0.2%, Previous: -1.4%, Revised from -1.3%
http://www.fx360.com/calendar/
Re: Introduction
Torontonian, JohnnyOneLot,
As I was reading Geoff's comments today I was once again struck by how different we can all perceive the same situation. He mentioned the "slow growth" opinions, but I see virtually no growth in jobs, security, domestic or global economy. "Slow Growth" to me is political speak for stalling with no good ideas.
While he is skeptical of another recession, I see us as in another depression (masked by government programs added since 1903s). The entire world has too many people, too few workers needed and too few world class thinkers dealing with a whole new situation with 20th century strategies and ideas.
Other considerations are whether a person is a trader and thinking shorter term, how much you have available to risk, how many people your investments must support, and added to those in my case, how old you are.
I view the ERCI call on the economy as far more important than what the markets will do.
With a U.S. 70% consumer dependent economy, dismal job outlook, rising taxes (especially at state and municipal levels) and no one pushing for a market valuing of assets and restoration of rules — I'm not even considering any long term equities yet and will continue trading bonds as they bob a few basis points over weeks or months.
As I have for the last decade, I'm ready to exit any or all with any drastic change in policy or market action.
BTW, such definitions as "two months of a down market = recession is, IMO silly and meaningless. I am more concerned with what I see and hear is happening to people I know.
Grym
FD: I will hold my gold and likely buy more GLD for trading soon.
Re: US Transportation data shows economic strength
I don't have access to railfax anymore ($$$) but trucking data shows no recession (link below). I guess stock are discounting possible future recession due to europe collapse.
http://econintersect.com/b2evolution/blog1.php/201...
Traders in tune - the MHFT's latest
"Final Flush in October"
"The final Q2 GDP report, a deep lagging indicator, was also revised up from 1.0% to 1.3%. These figures are telling us that the stock market has got it all wrong, that the economy is actually improving faster than anyone believes, and that you should be loading the boat with risk assets."
http://www.madhedgefundtrader.com/september-30-201...
Trying to Get Smarter
http://tinyurl.com/3gr35gy
Pretty good read. Nothing much to do here except read.
re. uxg discussion
i've seen many references to uxg in this thread, but i don't think i've seen a post about how the shares will be affected/diluted via the proposed merger. i'm interested in learning more about that if anyone can comment.
Mining: A great sector to play seasonal trends
http://tinyurl.com/6k5ts5a
Get the word out!
Three years ago, I left my 15-year career as a financial professional because I was disgusted and disturbed by the rampant evidence of corruption in the relationship between our banking system and our government.
At the time, the Tea Party was emerging and I was confident that between their exploding wave of anger and our newly minted President’s soaring aspirations for all of us - we would align to confront and resolve the blatantly corrupt relationship between banking and our government and more broadly BUSINESS and STATE.
I was sure that the obviously aligned interests of Obama’s constituents combined with the Tea Party’s libertarian principles about money and government, rigorous bank reforms in a simple, fair and transparent way would follow. And more importantly, I believed Obama’s energy and the Tea Party's would align to separate BUSINESS and STATE in order to bar banks, or any other special interest, from corrupting policy in a way that breaches fundamental fairness in our nation and prevents adaptation in a time of rapid change.
Their combined wave of energy was magnificent: Obama, scintillating and inspiring, harnessing a digital wave AND the Tea Party, raw and rebellious, screaming in unison: “We’re not going to take this any more!”
Little to none of this happened and I was wrong. And I feel I must do something about it.
As it turns out, I'm not alone. In just five days, 80,000 of us have signed a petition to get money out of politics. To make this happen, we will need to grow this movement, and that starts with your voice.
When we hit 100,000 signers, we are going to do a special show on getting money out of politics from Washington DC, deliver our 100k signatures to Congress, and issue what we call a “High Surf Alert." Attached to the high surf alert will be a link to a 3-paragraph letter from all of us explaining that we have signed this petition with the intent to send it to others.
This way we can harness the wave to grow our effort, lest we waste it on a bought and paralyzed government. When we are bigger we can then direct our attention at them.
I want to explain to my viewers why I feel so strongly about this and I want to hear your thoughts too!
You can tell me your story in one of two ways. One, click here and leave a comment on why you want to get money out or two, film yourself talking about GetMoneyOut.com, put it on YouTube and send it to dylan@dylanratigan.com. I will use these video clips and stories on my show. I want people to see that it's not just me, that there are hundreds of thousands of us, millions of us, with one message: Get. Money. Out.
After 3 years of doing my best to marshal resources with dozens of impassioned collaborators to highlight obvious corruptions and solve problems together on TV, in person and on the Internet -- I found it doesn’t matter what I or anyone else thinks or does about a given policy idea -- because the entire media, and the two-party political apparatus that sets the debate is being funded by a relatively narrow group of major interests and any solution that threatens those funders is simply never discussed.
While our healthcare, educational, banking, military, energy, trade and tax policies all have great room for improvement, I believe that the events of the past few years make it clear that until we get money out of our political system, we cannot begin on any of it.
I recently learned that 94% of the time the candidate that raises the most money wins. Policy, race, gender, tie color, voice, age... all can be ignored in a candidate because – 94% of the time the candidate that raises the most money wins.
So this past weekend when I saw the Occupy Wall Street/Occupy America protests spontaneously erupting in 60 cities, as the New York protesters heading into their 3rd week - I decided to walk over Friday evening to Zuccoti Park to see what they were doing.
I live 5 blocks away and worked 2 blocks from the square they are in for years, this Friday was one of my first trips back to that street corner in years and I was both fearful and excited to see what was going on. I have also never been to a protest like this.
On the internet it said their message is this:
“Occupy Wall Street is leaderless resistance movement with people of many colors, genders and political persuasions. The one thing we all have in common is that We Are the 99% will no longer tolerate the greed and corruption of the 1%.”
They said they we non-violent, had a policy of no drugs or alcohol in the Park, and didn’t allow bullhorns or amplifiers of any kind – they communicate by repeating out loud a given speakers words in short sentences. The short sentence requirement for speakers (not easy for me!!) has the duel benefit of keeping speeches short -- and avoids that being “talked at” feeling that can result from electrical speech amplification.
When I arrived Friday there was a boisterous crowd in good spirits from all walks of life -- the hippies, young people and Tea Partiers I expected -- the old ladies and local lawyers I was encouraged to see as evidence for this group's broader appeal.
I was able to talk to different groups over a few hours and it was clear that we were in agreement. Our government is bought, and we need to do something about it. In fact, you don’t have to go to Zuccoti Park or any other protest to know that!
Unrelated to any of these protests, we have started this petition to get money out. We have done so because we all agree, that until we do so, we will be prevented from engaging in the debate we all desperately need on virtually every issue to end this corruption.
I wanted them to know that I agree with them and that I support their principle, to learn from them and share with them my own efforts.
I asked on Friday if I could return the next day, Saturday, to address their General Assembly in their unusual speak and repeat fashion in Zuccoti Park. They told me if I came back the next day and signed up at 6:30 I could secure 5 minutes, I did so and a few hours later was granted time to speak.
Here is what I told them:
“My name is Dylan. I live five blocks from here. I think you people are crazy. I love the way you communicate. The world has noticed your voice. You have been here for three weeks, and you should be very proud of what you have accomplished. For fifteen years I worked as a financial services professional. Have you guys said that yet? I can't believe I'm here talking to you. I'm here because I agree with you. I made the decision three years ago to leave the financial services industry. I did that because it was clear that the financial services industry was purchasing both political parties. I believe that the fundamental problem with our collective desire to demand the debate America deserves is that both of our political parties are funded by well-heeled individuals, because they are bought. So I have been asking myself what the hell I'm going to do about this. I have decided that I am going to devote all of my resources, whatever those resources may be, with the knowledge that the decision to devote resources is much more important than what your resources are. I believe that you and every other group of people who know for a fact that the government is bought and are making the decisions to make 2012 the year our voice will be heard. I ask myself -- what do I do with my voice? I look at myself like an angry villager. I am irate. I know that if I cannot harness my personal rage for positive change I will harm myself and not help anybody else. My question to myself has been how do I harness fire in myself? You can either burn yourself in the town square or you can deliver a single a message to your government. My message is that the government is bought. If we do not separate business and state, and harness this energy to make that the central mission of this years' election we cannot begin to do the work we have to do. Thank you for giving me some of your time and congratulations on your success.”
I agree with their principle, I don’t know what will become of their movement, but I know I want to help them because I agree with them. I also agree with Ron Paul, Lawrence Lessig’s #rootstrikers and millions of other disgusted and disenfranchised American’s who know that their government is bought and are mad as hell about it.
In fact I think the singular message of ending our corrupt government function and the money that changes hands to facilitate it is the one goal almost everyone shares. Not surprisingly our efforts at aligning in a world of divisive issues makes us an underdog. Last week Politico described our effort like this:
“MSNBC’s Dylan Ratigan is bent on banning money from political campaigns through a constitutional amendment, which is about as likely as the Cubs winning the World Series the night lightning twice strikes a massive earthbound asteroid.”
But I believe if we approach the disparate communities with humility and shared principle, and a narrow focus, from Occupy Wall Street to factions of the Tea Party and beyond -- to offer support, debate and learning, we have in 2012 our best chance yet to end the blatantly corrupt relationship between BUSINESS and STATE.
The battle for me now is how best to harness all the fire that I feel for actionable positive change.
Since I devoted myself to this issue of about how blatantly corrupt our government has become -- I feel I have tried three methods to resolve it:
1. Scream! -- It felt good to express myself, but I found it to be an intense energy that alienated people with no positive harness to direct it.
2. Fight! -- This also felt good, but rarely led to any resolution or positive action.
Or
3. Help! -- Convert that rage into action everyday FOR something that is based on broad principles with a narrow goal. (You can start by adding your voice!)
I believe our decision to form this petition and use our voice to demand a real debate about an Amendment to get Money Out of politics in 2012 gives all of us something to be FOR -- and a tool that can do it. We may agree on nothing else, but can we all agree to do this.
Truth to Power,
Dylan Ratigan
http://www.getmoneyout.com/
SPX
SPX Close below 1120 on a trend-day down would be "interesting" imo (as would a rejection of the lows). And if tomorrows daily bar stays completely below 1120 (tomorrow high < 1120), when then I'd say the deal is done. New low in CRB Index. New low in Continuous Commodity Index. Silver and gold doing nicely today, palladium down big. New intraday low in December Copper (off that low now though). Don't want to be so negative in my posts here, so would like to point out that one of these days we are going to see some amazing buying opportunities (single-digit P/E's).
Property restrictions in China
http://business.financialpost.com/2011/09/27/risks...
Re: Get the word out!
Hey, why haven't I heard this on Bloomberg radio? The WSJ covered it in today's edition. Hmmm... maybe Bloomberg is ________________.
Re: Traders in tune - the MHFT's latest
Les,
I agree with that article.
I also like the way this site is(often)encouraging readers here to begin to load up the truck with value. I'm not experienced enough to have a strong opinion, but in my humble opinion, I see the stage being set for another leg down, the "recession" and "sky-is-falling" talk to get "deafening" this month, maybe into Nov. Then, look up in the sky, here comes earnings season!! Earnings will probably be good and expectations have probably been "manufactured low" so we can all be "Surprised!" OMG, you mean the world is not ending??
Also, we may just approach that majical time we have been talking about for months now, when the "political will" may be present to put the press into hyper-speed. Yippee!! The Savior of the financial universe, Ben the "Bernake-mint-aholic" will rise like the morning sun and save our whimpering little indebted asses with none other than, "more debt!"
Ahhhh! It makes such good TV drama! I feel like I'm watching saturday morning TV back in the 70's.
Happy Trading, DB
Re: Trying to Get Smarter
Agree. Good time to read something constructive & get ready for some value investing. Remember that child's game, hot-warm-cold? Prices are getting "warmer"...
One observation from today is the price action in Kodak. Do you see value here? The market must, as the price is up over 89% as I type! Can you say
p-a-t-e-n-t?
AAPL
I wonder if AAPL is being set up for a good beat the numbers play coming
Oct 18th after market closes? Probably a whole lot of good names gonna be set up too?
:-)
Chile digs deeper for copper
An FT reporter argues on the challenges to the copper sector against the background of clapped out former superstar mines in Chile and Peru. Dig deeper, lift more tonnage, for less metal. Given that these two countries are the 42% of global supplies - could speak to high prices again shortly.
http://video.ft.com/v/1192730316001/Chile-digs-dee...
Re: AAPL
I think AAPL will report exceptional results with a huge beat. More importantly, what will the official outlook be for the final quarter? That, in my mind, will determine market direction more than any other single factor. :) if only it could be boiled down to one thing. Seriously, AAPL is an outstanding company with fantastic products and a huge following. I would consider it a BIG surprise if they didn't announce positive in all regards well into next year.
the onion's (metaphorically true) story
got them into a lot of hot water with the politicians - who once again missed the message:
http://www.theonion.com/articles/congress-takes-gr...
Grey Monday
Well, at least it hasn't been a Black Monday. Yet. Still half an hour to go & we've seen some big moves in that timeframe as of late.
Still, even our beloved utilities are struggling on the slippery slope. Only good takeaway from today is that prices of excellent CARA100's are coming our way! Where is that top 50 list anyway? :)
AAPL
4ever,
" More importantly will be the official outlook.."
that's the ? in my mind, "the outlook" (guidance) that companies give. Based on some of the economic reports of late I'm expecting a mixed bag with the better part of the mix maintaining present guidance. IMO
I like the strength of Gold today. Be interesting to see if it gets thrown out if the selling continues this week.
Re: Rebound today in miners?
Ok, so perhaps twist-op will be negative for miners, but good for zero-coupons. Think EDV, possibly TLT until BENFED switches gears. ???
American Airlines & Kodak Bankruptcy Rumors in the News
Not what makes for market confidence. Put out there by the MSM to assuage the IMF, Fed, Treasury, EU, Merkel, et al., in their market beatdown to help their precious banks as discussed in the WIR? Only the shadow knows ...
AMR:
http://www.marketwatch.com/story/amr-shares-declin...
EK:
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/03/us-eastm...
A boardroom ruled by union reps and a company that makes film in a digital age have limited futures, IMO.
Cheers.
Re: AAPL
"I'm expecting a mixed bag with the better part of the mix maintaining present guidance. IMO"
I'm thinking maintaining, leaning better. Lower labor costs, steady to slow sales growth, stealth inflation on the revenue side - smaller packaging at same sales prices. Demand is there for basic products & also at the higher end. Those discretionary products in the middle get squeezed, but will still meet expectations.
Since we all know that futures are manipulated(right?), gold & silver may get another shellacking before year-end to harvest the longs.
Re: the onion's (metaphorically true) story
LOL! That's hilarious! What? You mean the CONgress didn't GET IT?
Why am I not surprised?
Re: American Airlines & Kodak Bankruptcy Rumors in the News
Dr. S - my first response re: AMR....Say it ain't so! This IS their Black Monday, dadburn it.
Trendline is broken. If it closes below it
very bearish...
http://bit.ly/nRVcdV
Re: Trendline is broken....
No other way to read it, NYUGrad. This was the first down day in a while where I didn't nibble. Market is going to have a rough week, methinks.
I still don't understand who is plowing capital into 30 year treasuries at 2.77%. That money is going to experience a negative real rate of return after adjusting for inflation.
I think the beating that US bank stocks are taking is pricing in the end of the world. Not panic selling, so not sure what to make of it, but every bank simply can not fail, yet that is what's being priced in over and over again with each fart (or lack thereof) out of Europe. Its already March of '09 for most US bank stocks. RSI's are in the toilet. They're either going to turn sharply at some point in the next 3 months, or there will be another major failure.
Keep that powder dry and stay patient.
Re: Trendline is broken. If it closes below it
Yeah. In addition, we have a new cycle high in the buck, low in the euro (131.90), a new cycle high in 20 year treasuries, close to a new high in the VIX, new lows in copper, close to a new low in oil, and after hours the e-minis closed 5 points below the equivalent of SPX 1100.
Spot of good news: gold and silver both closed positive, in the face of the selloff of pretty much everything else.
Nice start for the quarter. I suppose next support for SPX is 1050.
De-leverance
http://tinyurl.com/5swv8o7
Bulls can make money, and bears can make money, but pigs get slaughtered. "Squeal like a pig."
Saudi fund plans gold buy ( $ 10 B )
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/personalfinance...
See the Post-Close Report
Above.
Where to From Here?
At this point most bulls only see a bounce as a chance to sell. That should set the stage for rally that does indeed get sold enough to confirm for the bulls that they were right, but it should only get sold down to a higher low, which will set the stage for a rally to new highs. Craziness...No one expects it, which tells me that the odds of it happening are just as good as any at this point.
The confirmation to me that this is the most likely scenario is when I turn on the TV and see that the perma bulls like Cramer and Kudlow keep stating the market is screwed.
FD:
Long with very large position in CSTR.
Re: Trendline is broken....
nebish,
"I still don't understand who is plowing capital into 30 year treasuries at 2.77%. That money is going to experience a negative real rate of return after adjusting for inflation."
And I don't understand why people seem not to realize there is money to be made trading Treasuries the same as TLT. I don't buy them "to have and to hold" — I'm not married to any market.
WHOSX (all Ts) is up 8.38% since I bought it back 9-19-11 check out the APR. That's why. It covered all my losses in 2008 and then some.
Grym
My gosh
there are some unbelievable prices out there in ' miners land '.. My personal saying is a slant on Mr. Buff's... " Buy when others are listening to Bubblevision "...
Re: Where to From Here?
CSTR made the "Up on Unusual Volume" Nasdaq site list http://tinyurl.com/54y2n
Now we know why, a Carista who blogged "Long with very large position in CSTR." :)
Re: Trendline is broken
That's a good trade, Grym. Well played.
I think TLT is topping out. If you're buying TLT today at a multi-year high (generational high, really), the risk / reward in holding that for any length of time is decidedly against you.
You may very well see 1.5% on the 10 year yield and that would translate to about $142 on TLT, but there isn't much juice left to be squeezed from that lemon and you better be very nimble in exiting the position.
If we see 1.5% on the 10 year, I will probably liquidate the remainder of my bond holdings in my retirement accounts. I will either go to cash or put them in an S&P 500 index fund.
Have a quick trigger on your gains and keep those stops tight.
Re: Get the word out!
Craig,
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2011/09/29/125709/wall-...
This show's that the big money holds the balance always. Sometimes it's a seesaw but the the 99% always lose.
99%
This could be the next hook to catch on after "We the People". I hope so since "We the People" is increasingly ineffective as a phrase. Facing off with the other 1% may be more to the point.
Re: Get the word out!
Craig (Dylan), I applaud your decision to stand up and be counted. I have also signed the www.getthemoneyout.com petition and forwarded it to friends in other cities. Friends who helped register black voters in Georgia although it meant losing clients who found out, friends who stood by me in hard times and friends who have participated in supporting some of the very greediest corporations in spite of their own sense of shame.
As we look around at the current landscape there are no 'evil' persons, just evil deeds perpetrated by the greedy souless people for whom there is never enough. The hungry ghosts with tiny mouths and enormous hungry bellies they cannot feed. If we become aware that we first have choice. Choice about how much is enough and just when to stop accepting less than we deserve we can start to make some sense.
It is easy to join the couch potato cynic club and say it can't be done. Why the hell not? Our country was founded by individuals who did not accept the status quo of an empire. Never Never Never quit.
Thank you. Susan
Re: See the Post-Close Report
Thanks Geoff.
Yeh as Vad would say news trumped TA and whatever inclinations I had to see a double top in the $ were squashed. A recap of Greece's 'new' woes (like we didn't know they were in a deflationary death spiral already) can be read here:
http://www.spiegel.de/international/europe/0,1518,...
I'm aligned with Geoff, Bill, John Thomas aka the MHFT and the risk that I took on Friday was quickly dropped, with but a token 1k shares in ROF.V, MGS.V, LEX.V and buy orders setup at .05 for each (a little higher for LEX.V)- I do not want to be margin squeezed in the final stage of this sell off!
TLT weekly has returned inside its normal volatility range - not a typical end of rally reversal. More upside likely before the smart money makes the switch back to equities.
My guess is the market will push for a haircut of Greek debt in the order of 50%, not the 21% agreed to now lest Greece default (which might also be on the cards), while European leaders work out how to leverage this €400B bailout into something that kicks the can good and proper down the road. Time is not on their side.
Let's hunt some Orc!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PtrHOAs8Q5I
China warns of trade war if U.S. currency bill passes
"By using the excuse of a so-called 'currency imbalance', this will escalate the exchange rate issue, adopting a protectionist measure that gravely violates WTO rules and seriously upsets Sino-U.S. trade and economic relations," foreign ministry spokesman Ma Zhaoxu said in a statement posted on China's official government website (www.gov.cn) on Tuesday.
"China expresses its adamant opposition to this." (more)...
http://www.publicbroadcasting.net/kbia/news.newsma...
comments from Ambrose yesterday were pertinent and worth reading in their entirety:
"They get away with economic murder and thus far our country has just said, 'Oh, we don't care. This legislation will send a huge shot across China's bow,” said Senator Chuck Schumer.
The risk – or solution? – is that the US will opt for a variant of Imperial Preference, the pro-growth bloc created behind tariff walls by the British Empire with Scandinavia, Argentina and other like-minded states in 1932. This experiment has been air-brushed out of history by free trade hegemonists.
We are not there yet, but a global double-dip would take us to the edge. US democracy cannot allow America’s precious stimulus to leak out to countries that have bent their exchange rates, tax systems, and industrial structures towards predatory export advantage. It cannot let broad (U6) unemployment ratchet up to 20pc or more. (more)...
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/comment/ambrose...
12 Australian municipalities take S&P to court
Investors around the world had their eyes fixed on the Federal Court of Australia today as the first legal case against a credit ratings agency went to trial.
And the case brought by 12 NSW local councils, who quickly lost 90 per cent of their capital after buying the “grotesquely complicated” Rembrandt-structured finance products in 2007, contains some explosive evidence.
“Smart” investment bankers had “sandbagged” Standard & Poor’s, “bulldozing” the world’s most venerable ratings agency into delivering its premiere “AAA” credit rating for a high-risk, and ultimately disastrous, financial product.
Just as remarkably, documents submitted to the court show these investment bankers were surprised to find that S&P didn’t even bother to do its own research for an “independent” report on the Rembrandt notes.
Rather, the ratings agency virtually cut and pasted a chunk of ABN Amro’s own analysis of the notes - even though this was the very bank seeking the credit rating and trying to sell the notes.
According to an email found in pre-trial discovery, one employee of S&P chided another, writing, “You are the wuss for bending over in front of bankers and taking it… You rate something AAA, when it is really A-?”
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/business/toxic-rembrandts--r...
Greatest Moral Hazard is Austerity Here and Now
(Mauldin) let's talk about what's happening in this crazy economy. You started saying we're in a liquidity trap some time ago. Where are we in that process?
(McCulley) I like how you ask the question as, "where are we in this liquidity trap" because that allows me to fine tune the diagnosis. Most of the marketplace, and the policy makers even more so, are still debating the diagnosis: Are we, or are we not, in a liquidity trap? To me, it's absolutely critical that this diagnosis is made correctly.
Because if you conclude that you're in a liquidity trap — and I do unambiguously embrace that conclusion — it has profound implications for the right set of policies. It also has profound implications for how markets will discount the policies. What this means is that policy is not a matter of a large menu, encompassing, "Well, we might know we're in a liquidity trap and we also might not be in one, therefore we'll do... (more)
http://www.investorsinsight.com/downloads/otb/mwo1...
Others here more knowledgeable on money matters may disagree with this conversation, but I found this interview with a former PIMCO executive and failed applicant for a Fed position interesting.
CME raises copper margins by 15 per cent
http://bit.ly/mREnEv
Greek haircut under review, no new euro zone aid until November
"Ministers also agreed after a meeting in Luxembourg that Greece could wait until mid-November until it receives the next installment from its existing emergency aid program, piling more pressure on Athens to tackle its debt problems." (more)...
http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/10/04/us-euroz...
that explains DBK.DE down over 5% today. Pressure ratcheting up on the market once again.
Miners set for increase in deals
Mining executives are anticipating a pick-up in deal-making with the sharp 40 per cent drop in sector share prices over the last 10 months flushing out corporate predators.
Sector executives and bankers see the share price falls, which have intensified over the last three weeks, as opportunity to buy up scarce natural resources near the bottom of the cycle.
This has pushed valuation metrics, such as price-to-earnings multiples, below five-year averages, executives told the Financial Times at the annual LME Week, the largest meeting of the mining and metals sector.
FULL ARTICLE:
http://on.ft.com/mVyHPC
Copper's Drop Cuts Freeport's Cash Flows
http://bit.ly/pA3DAE
Some estimates here. Obviously, the strike is a big worry.
Re: Greek haircut under review, no new euro zone aid until ...
Deutsche Bank warns it will not meet its 2011 operating profit target of €10bn
Re: Trendline is broken
nebish,
I don't know when it will "top out", but believe it will continue to fluctuate in the slightly lower range it entered with the Twist. All you need to remember with TLT is "Buy high and sell low" ;-)
In my opinion US Ts (and the USD) will still be considered the best of the bad as all nations continue a slow crumble.
Half a century of conditioned reflex is a long time changing and as EuroLand evaporates both will do better.
WHOSX has actually done better for me than TLT. After I wrote yesterday I went back to check my records and saw I had initially bought a very large (for me) chunk. I held it for a few months and cleared well into 5-figures. I wouldn't do that now, but that was before so many rules were suspended and I had more confidence in the game. (There is a penalty for selling WHOSX before 60 days, but if things turn suddenly I'll do it.
If I sell at 1.5% TLT will net me 2.5% which is the 10-year out there on the bond curve for buy & hold people and a year for most equities.
I am only playing with small bites these days and am 70% cash, but this year one 4-month holding of VWESX gained 6.8% or about 19% APR including the 5% div.
Grym
Re: Get the word out!
Susan,
"Never Never Never quit."
You are in good company...
"... we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall never surrender..." — Winston Spenser Churchill
Last night I watched a few minutes of O'Reilly's show — hard to do as he seems so much in love with his own opinions.
Juan Williams was defending the Wall St. protest group across the country, but O'Reilly is of the opinion that, "They could get jobs if they would go wash up and apply."
My wife and I have been contributors for many years to a non-profit which trains people how to look for work. The director showed us around their impressive facility (designed to look and run like a business office) where trainees must dress for work — tie for guys, etc., they must check in by 8:30AM, watch their posture and absences can mean starting at the beginning or expulsion.
He pointed out that some have grown up without anyone in the family ever having a steady job. Some, if they have a flat tire, consider it a reason not to show up. They are beginning farther back than I ever imagined, since I started working with regular hours at age 15 and thought it "normal" — all my friends did it too.
Obviously there are people who have no clue about the US job market today. O'Reilly must have been lucky like me — I never applied for a job I didn't get. Times are far different today. Apparently the Congress has a large number of the clueless. I propose we make it mandatory they join the unemployed ASAP.
Grym