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Blog for December 2, 2009 [See ADDENDUM]

Bill Cara’s Morning Call

[7:55am ET] The most notable divergences in the equity market since the beginning of September (quarter year) have been (i) $USD:$GOLD, and (ii) between (small caps) IWM:DIA/SPY.

More recently, about seven weeks ago, the Financials (XLF) began to sell off against DIA/SPY.

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At this point the short Dollar trade is extremely crowded, and there may be a change going into year-end as book profits are taken.


CTA Trading Desk Report

Yesterday Apple dropped precipitously into the close, a very high volume 30-minute swoon from 201. Astute day traders were able to take advantage of a snapback rally this morning to the same general area, electing a low-risk entry on the short side, prior to another swift 5 point sell-off in the stock (AAPL –0.39%).

Why was this a good spot to spec on the downside?
• 3 million shares traded in the last 10 minutes Monday, 3 times as much as any other 10-minute bar during the day, as the stock dropped over 3.5 dollars into the close
• Using a retracement rally back to 201, revisits the scene of the accident, a spot where many traders were trapped yesterday, short sellers could place a stop just above yesterday’s high, risking only 1 point.
• The low of the high bar when Apple notched its all time high of 208.7 is 202.5, another area of natural resistance. Selling at the low of the high bar (or buying at the high of the lowest price bar in a bullish formation) was one of Gann’s favorite set ups.
• On a longer-term chart (weekly and monthly), this area (202) represents a double top, again an area where longer time frame traders look to unload some of their long positions.

Gold (GLD +1.52%) rode the parabola higher, as investors concluded the precious metal is going higher longer term, so price doesn’t matter, just get long and enjoy the ride!!! Kinda like Florida condo prices in the summer of 2005.

When the daily, weekly (over 93), and monthly RSI-7 reading are all north of 80, the probability of a sharp correction is growing. Bulls may consider either putting on zero-cost collars (buying a put and selling a call for no cost) against long gold positions, or buying out of the money calls and selling out of long gold positions. Taking risk off the table, pocketing huge profits, and still able to participate on the upside if the mania continues.

Equities chopped around (S&P +0.03%) going nowhere fast, as the tape seems tired, but refuses to break down. S&P 1080 remains the level Bulls need to defend, while the 50% retracement area of 1120 will probably see larger players book some profits.

Late breaking news -- Bank of America (BAC –1.51%) has agreed to pay back all the $45 billion it received through the TARP program, raising $18.2 billion through sales of “common equivalent securities.” Although the stock is rallying after hours, sounds like dilution to me.

Looks like the Fed has finished taking care of its own, throwing a lifeline to commercial banks earlier this year allowing them to borrow money for next to nothing, while banks peddled stock to the general masses to raise capital. Didn’t we say it at the time?

Unsuspecting investors have bought into the HB&B party line, that these financial stocks represent real value, a bargain for stock owners’ who are patient enough to hold the securities for several years. How are these banks going to grow their business if they don’t lend money? What the banks have accomplished is the transfer of survivorship risk from themselves to the investors who bought the common stock offerings over the past year, a job well done HB&B.

And in the ‘truth is stranger than fiction’ category; with a straight face, Cramer declares on CNBC he is willing to pay up to 216 dollars a share for Amazon (close 142.32 +2.76% today), a stock selling at 35 a year ago, and 78 dollars in mid September.

You cannot make this stuff up.

Have a great evening.


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Unemployment estimates

The U.S. economy is still shedding jobs.

ADP Says U.S. Companies Cut Estimated 169,000 Jobs in November

That's would be below the number from last month when we lost 190K jobs, but above the consensus range for non-farm job losses that will be reported by the government on Friday.

Job loss report

Also, the Challenger count of planned layoffs dipped a bit from previous months.

Challenger Report

Futures have pulled back on the ADP report, and we're at key resistance levels on the major indexes. Do we head back down to retest (yet again) the bottom of the range? Or does the market shrug this off and make new highs?

Stopped in to say Hi... and...

...to drop this off for the gold bugs here. BTW... I got off the gold train way too early. Another 2009 blunder. What a rally since March. Go figure.
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More Evidence Gold is Being Hoarded as Comex Fulfills Gold Contracts With Paper
http://tinyurl.com/yag4fnn

My bet that by 2020 we will return to some form of gold standard is looking better. Something is up when gold is being hoarded to such an extent that the futures exchanges cannot fulfill with metal but have to try to stiff the contract holder with paper. Now, they have done this in the past, and gotten away with it, but according to this story, never so aggressively.

So now the gold hoarding makes sense: other sovereign powers are preparing for - or at least hedging against - the inevitable sovereign default of the US. The more Obama buries the US in ever more present deficits and future commitments, the closer this becomes.

....... Sadly, the US is so over-extended the wars are but a small pullback in the vast future deficits from social commitments. This won't end well.

[From Planet Yelnick who has a lot of great posts]

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Edit: Interesting chart posted by Joe8888
http://tinyurl.com/yf58c5e

Re: Unemployment estimates

We are just running out of people to layoff.

U$D oversold

I totally agree that selling USD is a crowded trade. However, there is a room for one or more pops down before any bounce is possible. $ reminds me the stocks at the end 2008. They were very oversold but refused to bounce back significantly. They had to be extremely oversold to finally pop in march 2009. The RSI(14) on weekly charts $SPX went much below 30 MULTIPLE times and showed divergence for several months between Oct 2008 and March 2009. $USD's RSI(14) on weekly barely seats on 30 and there were no big dips below 30 yet. This is different compared to the U$D bottoming between Nov 2007 and March 2008.

FAZ Chart

As Bill noted, the financials haven't been pacing the movement in the broader market. I've attached an hourly and daily chart of the the 3X Bear Financial ETF, FAZ. It tested support yesterday, but held its ground. I've also noted the MACD (not pictured) on the hourly has bottomed and turned up. The MACD on the daily still shows bearish momentum.

Obviously, ETFs are not for the faint of heart.

I'm long FAZ.

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Cara 100 Update

QCOM - Caylon Securities Initiates with an Outperform. PT = $52

Real time illustration...

... to the concept discussed yesterday. Take a look at ATHR. 30 is two day's resistance and annual high - and there are huge offers at that level. If broken, promises to be a nice trade. There are a few other variables involved (market help, support formed prior to break) so use it for observation please, not a trading call.

Re: FAZ Chart

Be careful with those leverage ETFs such as FAZ, it has time decay.By holding it, one can only make money when banking is moving in definite downward trend.

China Market Strategy

Credit Suisse today reported on China as follows:

• In first 10 months of this year, fixed asset investment growth, at 33.1% YoY, was the strongest demand growth driver. Within which, infrastructure investment, growing at 45.3%, was the most important.

• Concern over local government financing could make the central government more cautious in approving new infrastructure projects, even though old projects will continue to be built. We expect a sharp deceleration in infrastructure investment.

• Industrial investment growth should also slow, in view of the government's concern over excess capacity in many of the industrial sectors.

• With the property policy focus on increasing effective supply, we think that property investment growth will remain very strong.

• In view of this development, there are good reasons for investors to be cautious on both construction companies and capital goods manufacturers with too much exposure to infrastructure and industrial investment, particularly those financed by local governments.

• We have updated our China model portfolio. The major changes include: 1) an increase in our OVERWEIGHT (OW) stance on the consumer discretionary sector but a decrease in our weighting in consumer staples (downgraded to MARKET WEIGHT (MW) from OW); 2) a decrease in our UNDERWEIGHT (UW) in materials; 3) an increase in our OW on the utilities sector; 4) a decrease in our weighting in the capital goods sector to UW from MW.

• Overall, we are OW banks, insurance, utilities, telecoms, consumer discretionary and healthcare, while we are UW energy, materials and transportation. We are MW on real estate, consumer staples, capital goods and technology.

• Credit Suisse’s China model portfolio has been up 70% since January 2009, outperforming the MSCI China Index by 7%.

Re: FAZ Chart

Very true. Looks like I'm gonna be stopped out soon on this ... someone just put the pedal to the metal on the markets. My guess is this is being fueled by stops getting hit as we're breaking through resistance.

Yep ... just got stopped out on my ultra shorts on that sudden dramatic surge in the indexes.

Time to wait and watch and manage risk with even smaller positions.

Re: FAZ Chart

Don't fight the Feds...after Japan's announcement yesterday

Re: FAZ Chart

Absolutely incredible - I had my stops set at 1115.5 on the S&P. And sure enough, the indexes reversed after hitting 1115.58.

It's enough to make one disgusted and paranoid. ;(

Re: Real time illustration...

ATHR trade is resolved at 1:4 risk/reward (40 cents of profit vs. initial 10 cents risk), let me throw quick chart is so it's easy to see the idea of the trade later. Entry trigger is $30 break, stop under 29.90. Huge offers at $30 is an additional consideration for the trade - aside of chart in two time frames, intraday and daily, those offers reinforce the notion of big resistance being taken, thus nice move likely to be launched.

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Interesting energy news in NC....

Progress Energy is closing eleven coal powered plants, because they do not have ' scrubbers ' necessary for future requirements... They will build a new gas-fired plant//

Re: Unemployment estimates

leont,

Exactly right. You can't field a baseball team with fewer than nine.

Also, around here the hours are being cut with the remaining staff. My son was cut to 32 hours a couple weeks ago and last week lost his vacation time. Family health care was cut to employee only. Still better than going out of business.

We have one very sick country and a bunch of quacks pretending they know how to cure it.

This data is wrong at the source

Korvus,

"This data is wrong at the source, again. I apologize, again. Unfortunately I have no time or resources to fix it. Maybe I will shut down this report."

I'm curious as to what source is at fault.

A temporary software glitch?
Deliberate distortion by someone?
Other?

Re: Interesting energy news in NC....

Now thats what I call Progress!

NO FED WATCH

ALOHA!!

Tomorrow Bernanke gets the US Congress version of the Spanish Inquisition! If you are not familiar with the Spanish Inquisition then go to YouTube and type in MONTY PYTHON.

I am amazed at all the negative press Bernanke amd the US FED is getting in the media. When I first started posting at this site, prior to the monetary meltdown in 2007, I was very harsh of Greenspan and then Bernanke and people would reply and defend these guys and even say that they're doing the best they can under the conditions. Now they say that about Obama and woe unto him for inheriting the Bush legacy. Does it matter? We are here where we are more because of the US CONGRESS than any one President. Bush could not push the Shock and Awe button without Congress backing his "war spending proposals".

Here is yet another anti-Bernanke ... anti US FED article, but look what I see at the very end of the article.

"PhD economist and candidate for Florida governor Farid Khavari wants to create a Bank of the State of Florida, to create credit without burdening the state and its citizens with high interest charges by private banks. See this for details.

If the power to create credit were taken away from the Federal Reserve system and its private banks and given back to the government (as the Constitution envisioned), then American taxpayers would save hundreds of billions or trillions of dollars in unnecessary interest charges in paying off the national debt, as the government would not have to pay interest to finance its debt (sovereign nations such as the U.S. and England have the power to create credit and money; see this, this, this, and this).

Given that America is already deeply in debt, how can Mr. Bernanke justify the ongoing mountain of interest debts placed on the backs of the American people by the private credit-creation system of which the Fed is a part?

WOW ... a guy running for Florida governor who wants to get rid of the US FED! Imagine that ... paying .5% instead of 5% on your mortgage ...

More and more questions are being asked as to why we need the US FED MAFIA middlemen in control of our money. Why can't each US citizen have a "discount window"? Why not abolish US FED member banks? Or are you suffering from STOCKHOLM SYNDROME?

This is a very lengthy article that sites the BIS and other central bankers being very critical of Bernanke and the US FED policies. I caution you that if you are still deeply in love with the US FED then you probably should not read this.

On Reuters no less!

LINK: http://www.reuters.com/article/GCA-Autos/idUSTRE5B...

Re: NO FED WATCH

kaimu -

wrong article link? "Weak dollar forces Mercedes to build more in U.S."

Huge excess in scrap metal from clash for clunkers

... metal dealer on NPR last night...

Re: NO FED WATCH

ALOHA!!

How do you know it was "wrong"? HA!!

Well look at that! Look what happens to jobs with a crumbling dollar! Manufacturers move production to the USA. But then look what happens back in Germany! The unions get mad.

This floating currency stuff sure makes the World a lot more spicy! Its fun trying to run a business on the fiscal instability of shifting sands ...

Re: FAZ Chart

Re: FAZ Chart
Submitted by number2son (436 comments) on Wed, 12/02/2009 - 10:22 #53559

Absolutely incredible - I had my stops set at 1115.5 on the S&P. And sure enough, the indexes reversed after hitting 1115.58.

It's enough to make one disgusted and paranoid. ;(

Once a very good trader taught me, to make money from trading, one needs to be able to identify where is the other players' stop loss point. With index is so close to the previous high, you can imagine there are many stop orders for short selling hanging just above that level, in addition, there are many momentum players on long side watching this level like hawks. If you are a short seller and you believe market is going to move down from here, and assuming you have the power to move market a little bit, what you would do is to break the high to trigger those orders, so there will be tremendous demand for your supply of short selling. Same game happens around support level when market/stocks move on uptrend. The support level is broken on downside deliberately to trigger stop orders of the bulls. It is not necessarily important for investors and long term oriented traders, but important enough for active traders.
It is very frustrated to see the price moves back to what you expect after you cut losses, but the good thing is, most of times you can use those sudden deliberate spikes and tails on important price levels as a confirmation of the direction of next move (but only on important levels, price moves randomly when in between,and the players won't waste their ammo in random zone).
Just some of my experience and observation to share.
I am still learning.

Re: NO FED WATCH

ALOHA !!

Okay here is the LINK!

Scroll down to "LINK:"

See below ...

LINK: http://tinyurl.com/yzkbgk6

Re: FAZ Chart

Yep, and I thought I had given the trade enough room to account for stops getting hit early. Turns out I was off by the smallest of margins.

There's still a chance the market goes higher -- especially if we get a close above yesterday's high.

And yes, it is frustrating to see prices reverse according to expectations. The key is to try and be dispassionate about it and to continue to learn from your mistakes. One thing I have learned is that it is better to trade a plan and manage risk and not try to force a trade. So I accept the loss, and try to learn from it so I can do better next time. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

Re: FAZ Chart

"I am amazed at all the negative press Bernanke amd the US FED is getting in the media."

The media, like the Congress, play to their support — lobbyists or sponsors — it's where the money comes from that calls the shots.

The American public has been increasingly vocal... the sponsors take note... the media adjusts their sights.

Re: This data is wrong at the source

Grym,

That is my insertion. The data comes from a small firm. Occasionally they have a computer glitch. We never know if it is going to be permanent and korvus and I have talked about change. There are alternatives, but the problem is that I personally don't have the time to start a whole new system. In the meantime, I keep my fingers crossed.

In the background I am working to develop a premium service and if there are profits there, they will be directed to the maintenance of this blog. At the end of the day, however, there is only so much time and money I am prepared to put into this blog. I want it to be better, but... I am not a taxpayer-funded institution.

Re: FAZ Chart

yes, I agree with you. The key element to interpret certain price move with high probability is to understand what is the current trend, or if it is moving in trending.
My biggest gain from reading Bill's blog is to read it less, and I have stopped reading any other market comments for long time. Bill taught me how to think and trade independently. Market is there, prices are there, if we care enough to check them every day after close. we will have our own conclusion,and if we are wrong, prices or the PNL of our positions will tell us.
And another thing is always to remind myself I know nothing about market/trading, to keep the ego in check. I understand it is going to be very hard for me to correct a trading mistake if I do not admit I made a mistake in the first place.
I am not very good yet. But this mind game is fascinating.
Good luck.

Submitted by number2son (437 comments) on Wed, 12/02/2009 - 11:27 #53573

Yep, and I thought I had given the trade enough room to account for stops getting hit early. Turns out I was off by the smallest of margins.

There's still a chance the market goes higher -- especially if we get a close above yesterday's high.

And yes, it is frustrating to see prices reverse according to expectations. The key is to try and be dispassionate about it and to continue to learn from your mistakes. One thing I have learned is that it is better to trade a plan and manage risk and not try to force a trade. So I accept the loss, and try to learn from it so I can do better next time. Thanks for sharing your thoughts.

Re: NO FED WATCH

On the topic from his link refering to Farid Khavari but from another angle it sounds like Kaimu is being paraphrased by Anna Schwartz.....the article quotes her as saying...."Specifically, the Fed is treating it as a liquidity problem, when it is really an insolvency crisis."
peace from North Puget Sound

For what it's worth:

(US) Fed's Lacker: US fiscal deficit is a huge challenge, Fed will not allow inflation to rise in order to reduce deficit

Re: This data is wrong at the source

Bill,

Thanks for the clarification. Not a complaint, in act just the opposite.

Think about how nice it would be if everyone simply stated when data was unreliable or questionable instead of faking or spinning it.

Re: For what it's worth:

"(US) Fed's Lacker: US fiscal deficit is a huge challenge, Fed will not allow inflation to rise in order to reduce deficit"

Thanks, I needed a good laugh today :-)

Re: For what it's worth:

Lacker: "Fed will not allow inflation to rise in order to reduce deficit"

Let's see, what else can we say that's similar:

Bernanke: "At this juncture . . . the impact on the broader economy and financial markets of the problems in the subprime markets seems likely to be contained," Bernanke said in prepared testimony to Congress' Joint Economic Committee.

The check is in the mail, we're from the government and we're here to help you, I promise I ... well you get the idea.

ETF Securities' Currency ETCs on LSE.

I came across these ETCs today ,I havent traded any yet, but I am looking to do so in the near future if they track reasonably well and as long as I dont find any hidden problems with them i.e. DYODD.Just passing info. on to anyone that trades on the london stock exchange.

"The first 18 Currency ETCs were listed on the LSE on the 12th November and track MSFX Currency IndicesSM. Since listing, the Currency ETCs have rapidly generated interest with seven liquidity providers signing up to provide investors access to these new securities. Specialist market-making firms Flow Traders, Nyenburgh, Bluefin Europe and IMC will provide "on screen" liquidity and two way prices while Morgan Stanley, Merrill Lynch and Fortis have signed up as Authorised Participants.
The 18 initial Currency ETCs provide long or short passive exposure to G10 currencies versus the US Dollar and include AUD, CAD, CHF, EUR, GBP, JPY, NOK, NZK and SEK. The ETCs also provide exposure to local interest rates in addition to FX movements. For example the implied interest rate incorporated into the MSFX Long Australian Dollar IndexSM averaged approximately 5% p.a. over the past five years."

http://tinyurl.com/yggvelp

YONG, RUTH, MTW

Sold YONG at $9.9 that I bought yesterday. Sold RUTH at $2.17 that I bought yesterday.

Shorted MTW at $9.86

Re: FAZ Chart

I sympathize with you 100%. I went long on BGU on Friday in AM and still managed to lose some small money.
How? My stop was triggered at 37.99 on Monday before zooming to 52 today.

In the old days I did not use stops and lost. Now, I use stops and still end up shaken out. The stop levels is the tricky point.

Unfortunately, the big boys see the stops. It's a loosing game. The only account that made me big money is the retirement one in which I do swing trades between miners and cash. Unfortunately currently in cash (big mistake).

Re: Real time illustration...

Vad, Thanks for the lesson.

Do you move up your stop at anytime during this trade? Also do you have a time limit on a trade if it stagnates after the break? Example say ATHR hung around .10 for say 10 bars.
Bob

Re: Real time illustration...

bobbyo,

trailing: yes, standard procedure for usual day trade is selling 1/2 around 1:1, 1/4 around 1:2 and last portion around 1:4, or trail stop. After each partial out stop is being trailed under previous support - under breakeven on first partial, under 1:1 after second etc. Some variations can be applied depending on market and stock strength, but above is a most frequent routine. If you track this trade through today's log, exactly this was done.

Time stop - no, I don't normally use those. The only case when I incorporate time is bounce plays - when those trigger after harsh selloff, I usually want the bounce to develop fast. When a dropping stock stalls for too long after initial strengthening, it's more often then not a sign of bounce failing.

NG trades today

As NG is approaching the bottom part of my $4.50-$5.50 presumed range for the winter, I decided to sell some puts on UNG, so as to pocket some premium or get more shares at a good price. Right before the close I sold 10 contracts of January $9 puts on UNG at $0.77. Also, earlier today a buy limit order for 200 more shares of HNU.TO was triggered at $8.50, bumping up my total position to 900 shares. My next buy limit order is at $8, for 200 more shares.

In case you missed BAC spike

5:20:33 PM
Bank of America Corp Confirms plans to repay entire $45B TARP funds (about 33% of market cap)
- Under terms of the authorization from the U.S. Treasury and banking regulators to repay the $45 billion investment made under TARP, Bank of America will repurchase all 600,000 shares of the company''s Fixed Rate Cumulative Perpetual Preferred Stock, Series N; all 400,000 shares of the company''s Fixed Rate Cumulative Perpetual Preferred Stock, Series Q; and all 800,000 shares of the company''s Fixed Rate Cumulative Perpetual Preferred Stock, Series R. The shares were issued to the U.S. Treasury as part of TARP. Bank of America is not exercising its right to repurchase the related warrants at this time.
- Bank of America plans to repay the $45 billion in TARP funds using $26.2 billion in excess liquidity and $18.8 billion in proceeds from the sale of "common equivalent securities.
- The $18.8 billion issuance of "common equivalent securities" would be treated as Tier 1 Common capital.
- Shareholders would be asked at a special meeting to be held within 105 days of issuance to approve an increase in the authorized shares outstanding in order to allow the "common equivalent securities" to be converted into common stock.
- The "common equivalent securities" carry warrants to buy a total of 60 million shares of common stock at $0.01 per share and other benefits if shareholders do not approve an increase in authorized common shares.
- In addition, Bank of America agreed to increase equity by $4 billion through asset sales to be approved by the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve and contracted for by June 30, 2010. To the extent those asset sales are not completed by the end of 2010, the company agreed it would raise a commensurate amount of common equity.
- Bank of America also agreed to raise up to approximately $1.7 billion through the issuance of restricted stock in lieu of a portion of incentive cash compensation to certain Bank of America associates as part of their normal year-end incentive payments.
- After the TARP repayment and these initiatives, the company's Tier 1 Capital ratio would be 11.0 percent, pro forma based on the September 30, 2009 ratio of 12.5 percent. The Tier 1 Common capital ratio would be 8.5 percent, pro forma based on the September 30, 2009 ratio of 7.3 percent. The company will continue to have strong liquidity.
- Repurchase of TARP preferred stock is expected to reduce income available to common shareholders in the fourth quarter by $4.1 billion, as the book value of the preferred is less than the amount paid.
- Repaying TARP will save the company approximately $3.6 billion in annual dividend costs from the TARP investment.

AARP & PENTAGON

ALOHA !!

On Dec 1st, Tuesday, the US Treasury Daily Statement had outlays close to $12BIL USD on US Military line items, everything from Defense to Military Active Duty to Veterans Benefits. So the US Military pumping continues.

Then between Medicare($15BIL) and Medicaid the US Treasury issued another $16.5BIL USD in outlays.

The "operating cash balance" for the US Treasury is now ($196.7BIL)USD, running about ($100BIL) per month.

US PUBLIC DEBT now sits at $12.034TRIL USD. The debt limit is $12.104TRIL USD. Some $70BIL more and its IOU time! That could happen tomorrow ...

Re: NO FED WATCH

Kaimu,

I was thinking...so we take the Fed out of the equation and give it back to the Treasury...I wonder how much that will change if the politicians can still just print more money.

Gold

Ok, call me crazy, but isn't the repayment of TARP by BAC a negative for gold bulls? Doesn't that mean the fiscal irresponsibility of the government becomes less...ummm...irresponsible? Isn't the irresponsibility a major theme behind the bullish parabolic like move?

Re: Gold

I know my idea is a stretch but to me its a perception thing. Gold has made a parabolic move up, no matter how you describe it. Any chink in its armor can knock it down 5 to 10% quickly.

So what I did was I went out and bought GLL on this thesis. It's likely to be wrong but I suspect it could work out in a week or so.

FD:
Long GLL at $9.48.

Re: Gold

Ok, you asked for it. You must be crazy.LOL that was fun.
But I don't see the irresponsibility in the TARP being paid back but in being paid in the first place. Irresponsible to pay it back early just to pay out bonus's but, c'mon won't they just ask and get TARP 2.22222222. I don't see the nervousness about our financial system easing (other than symbolically) with the TARP pay back. The longer we go along, without resolution of cdo,cds,and whatever abc soup that is based on selling financial product without reading the fine print, are things just going to magically get better? Less jobs, less manuf, less businesses. But I'm just a schlub anyway. I see the strength of gold to be found in the US Treasury Daily Statement spending that kaimu reads to us. Thats crazy. BTW thanks Kaimu for doing it and sharing it. With tax income falling, quote-15 states have collectively borrowed more than $15 billion and another 9 states are in the red over unemployment benefits.unquote (from Mish @ http://preview.tinyurl.com/yabdfcu) and real estate resets picking up again I think the market will slosh higher as many chase performance. Then 2010, and seasonal hiring reverses, real estate seasonal lows, maybe another black swan? Or just the stuff we know thats out there coming to fruit.
peace from a beautiful North Puget Sound
btw anyone heard from Craig?

Re: NO FED WATCH

ALOHA !!

As it stands Nemo WE THE PEOPLE are not even allowed inside a FOMC meeting and the earliest we can view the "meeting minutes" is five years later after the fact.

At least we are allowed into Congress!

However without any meaningful change in our monetary system we are still left with corrupt money. But wouldn't you at least rather see WE THE PEOPLE get more benefit from corrupt money than JPM and GS? Why should your mortgage interest fund the BAC CEOs bonus? Why not put that money back into your own pockets and keep those funds working in your local community building your own local economy rather that shipping your interest payments to Wall Street and North Carolina.

The second part of the equation is INCOME TAXES. The more money that you earn and can keep in your own pockets then the more money can be used in your local community and not shipped to DC to run the special interest gauntlet.

KEEP IT AND KEEP IT LOCAL!

Re: Gold

ALOHA !!

Okay teamonfuego ... YOU"RE CRAZY!!

According to the FY 2009 TARP there is still another $320BIL left to pay back so $45BIL is a minor dent. Then so far in FY 2010 there is more TARP going out than coming in, so there is a long way to go to pay it back. Notice that with all these GRAND PAYBACKS announced there is no GUIDE POST mentioned to know exactly how much TARP is left to pay back. Why doesn't the BAC announcement say BAC will pay back $45BIL so that leaves $290BIL of unpaid TARP? Why no mention there is more TARP going out in FY 2010 than being paid back?

Besides $45BIL can be a one day, one line item number on the US Treasury Daily Statement. Its meaningless in the flood of DEBT! In fact on Monday, 11/30 the US PUBLIC DEBT went up $104.4BIL in one day! Where is that in all the media hype?

Be on the look out for the DEBT CEILING GAME. We are very near the ceiling($70BIL more) and the US CONGRESS must prepare themselves to act concerned with the treats of IOUs. All show for our creditors! After 70 years of SHOW what else can you expect?

Not missing the forest behind the trees

S&P 500 closed today at almost exactly the same level now as on November 16, but the number of NYSE issues making a new 52-week high today was 228 vs. 303 on November 16. So while the small caps and the financials were not confirming the recent S&P highs since mid-October, lately the internal divergences have also appeared within S&P 500 itself. So I am still operating on the assumption that the market is topping out, and I placed another buy limit order for TWM at $27 for 100 shares (a buy limit order at $28 was hit today for 100 shares), as well as a buy limit order for SKF at $23 for 100 shares.

preparing to sell DGP

I won't go as far as teamonfuego with respect to shorting gold, but I am preparing to reduce further my long position in PMs. I placed a sell limit order at $33.67 on the shares of DGP that I bought on Friday at $29.67. Even if gold continues parabolically to $1500 and then corrects to $1300, I would rather buy it at $1300 *AFTER* a sharp correction, when the entry risk will be much lower than now (since a correction can start tomorrow and take gold all the way back to $1050).

Edit: On a second thought, I changed my sell limit order for DGP to a traling sell stop limit order at $32.67/32.65.

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TOF you often ask interesting questions. Let's see now, why are people buying gold in the first place?

1) treasuries return nothing
2) central banks worldwide have now decided to diversify into gold
3) rich individuals have had their tax havens removed - no off-shore place to store wealth
4) people still don't trust banks
5) with intervention dead for now, hedge funds probably have declared open season

You might say that BAC news has helped to address #4, but there is always the rest of the list to drive the price higher.

Having said that, I'm certain when the correction comes, it will be exciting to watch.

This reminds me of crazy dotcom stocks in the late 90s. You know things will blow up, but between now and then, shorting just isn't an option.

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TOF you may be nuts, but I recall you going "ALL IN" when I was at my puke point at the very bottom of this thing. Wish I had followed you... Sold my PM equities well too early as usual (including AUY at a loss which would now have been a profit). Missed 2 once in a lifetime trading periods- shorting the homebuilder/financials and riding this V shaped rally. Mostly watching from the sidelines now but picked up some KFT today to hold for the dividend. Enjoy your posts- good luck with the trade.

KC

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Kaimu, if I may add... third part is, when it comes to Congress - at least we vote for them. It's not a perfect form of control as we all know, but it's some kind of control, and as we saw lately it does influence their thinking. None of that exists with Fed.

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Ehh...Vad...unless I missed some constitutional ammendment, since when does a Ukanuck vote for US legislators? :)

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OK, I am very tempted to ask what "Ukanuck" is but I realize this will come back to bite me, considering my own pitiful typing (Grin)

So, I'll limit it to "it was generic WE" :)

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Dave - I have a feeling I'm a little early on this...I've been going through the old CNBC highlights of Hugh Hendry from October 2008 because I've always liked listening to that guy and one of the first things I noticed was the ticker on the bottom....DJIA 10,800 and S&P 1,160. Then I looked at where we started free falling...DJIA 10,800 and S&P 1,160. Those are the gaps to fill and everyone knows how much the market likes to fill gaps these days. So my short Gold is probably 5% or so too early...

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Holy flipping bejeebers (sp?), teamonfuego. We both were interested in Japan a few days ago. How 'bout them apples since then? Hot money's rushing around the M.A.S.H. unit putting out fires left and right, as far as I can fathom... (apologies for the atrocious metaphor-mixing).

NG market anomaly?

A strange thing happened today with the NG market: the January futures dropped below the spot price! So apparently the market participants believe that today's jump in the spot price is unsustainable. I don't see a reason, however, for the spot price to drop *NOW* into an abyss, since the storage issue is not a problem anymore. So my uninformed guess would be for the spot price to stay flat or even rise gradually into January. Therefore, the January futures have basically hit a rock bottom today and will be forced to move up as the spot price moves up into January (since at their expiration, the January futures must be equal to the spot price).

Gold

Gold now up to $1,227.

best performing asset classes during the crisis - NOT gold!

The leader is NOT gold (although gold is the clear winner from the start of the decade till today).

It’s Emerging Market stocks! It looks as if Nasdaq index is 2nd, and gold third! Of course, past results don’t guarantee future performance !

chart from bloomberg via thebigpicture.com

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TOF, I like your style and your verve.

FD, I sold my PMPIX on the close today. I was hoping for a tripple but a double plus unnerves me a bit. Not bragging. I have many death stars in my trading accounts. I'm just a simple trend trader looking for inflection points. I like your GLL idea and will begin to scale in. It may take a few weeks or months but the dollar is one of the most crowded short trades I have seen in a long while. Don't misunderstand, I hate being negative on commodities and yes, to my mind Gold is a commodity. I think the fact that Gold pays no interest is a relative positive since my money markets do not pay acceptable rent either. What a hoax we must deal with. International assignants are being printed at will and there is no hue and cry from the shepple. Social backstops seem to work, until they don't.

Some trading wag once said "you can take the first 20% of a move. I'll even give you the last 20%. All I want is the 60% in the middle."

That said, I "only keep as much physical gold in order to bribe a border guard during a civil upheaval." Black cows propagate. That's my dividend.

Good trading..........

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Ukranian canuck

Gold and the $

Bill weren't you expecting, at one point last Summer, for Gold and the $ to advance? So, even if there is a dollar correction/rally, what is your opinion on gold continuing to advance?

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ALOHA !!

Jock thanks ... Actually Spot Silver ties Emerging Markets at 103%. Well, let me say over a one year period Spot Silver is up 103% according to KITCO charts.

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ALOHA !!

Exactly Vad ... and look how many of them jumped on board the AUDIT THE FED Bill so they could look good at home! Our CONGRESS can feel the heat but the US FED is impervious and proud of it! Our representatives know they can't get to bat and grab all the free flowing money and bribes in DC if they do not get elected, so they are force to bend. My guess is that not even the unions like the US FED at this point. NO JOBS NO UNION!

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Kaimu, having tried to figure out exactly the nature of the relationship between the Fed and their banks - and the flow of money it is almost incomprehensible; repos and reverse repos etc. If you don't understand the nature of the skimming off the top of the nation/theft you can't be vehement about it. As a visual thinker, I know I can communicate it on a single page or a single animation to someone. If you can suggest a good resource I'd love that thanks.

I've read elsewhere, that the consequences of the relationship are astounding, for example read elsewhere that the banking system makes more per year than is taken in personal taxes.

bunching up HNU.TO orders

I realized that I am making too many transactions in my ETrade global trading account, which charges CAD$19.99 for each HNU.TO trade. So instead of buying 200 shares at $8 and then 200 more at $7.5, I decided to combine them into a single buy limit order for 400 shares at $7.5. Also, I decided to bunch up my sell limit orders at $9.5 and $9.76 (for the shares I bought at $8.5 and $8.76) into a single sell limit order at $9.7 for 400 shares.

MHFT and Gold

"1)Welcome to the new gold standard! There was a time that to own gold you had to be a “gold bug” and believe in the myriad urban legends that percolated in the underground. Fort Knox is either empty, or full of gold plated steel bars. The Treasury cut back on the minting of new gold coins because it had to ship the bulk of our reserves to China to cover the trade deficit.

The US government is going to ban private gold ownership again. The Feds have unwittingly fanned the flames of paranoia, with the Patriot Act forcing all American gold and jewelry dealers to register with the Treasury Dept. But adherents to the yellow metal are considered raving nut cases and conspiracy theorists no more."

http://blog.madhedgefundtrader.com/

Arming Goldman With Pistols Against Public: Alice Schroeder

For the "Can't make this stuff up" file.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601110&si...

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"I was thinking...so we take the Fed out of the equation and give it back to the Treasury...I wonder how much that will change if the politicians can still just print more money."

nemo,

how is 'money' (aka currency) printed now? serious question; please explain the process.

thanks.

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"FD: Long GLL at $9.48."

i think you are crazy too, but only because you didnt decide to sell well in the money calls and thereby reap the ETF decay for yourself.

bears in hibernation!

Investor's Intelligence tabulates bulls & bears totals from market newsletter writers. Currently the bearish level is at a low for the past 2 years. Bulls are relatively high, but not at a two-year high. Mish pointed out this one on his site.

http://www.schaeffersresearch.com/streetools/marke...

Click on the "2 years" link to see the chart. By default it only shows the last 3 months.

I dunno about you, but I sure feel like hibernating! That's a sure sign to load up on the puts!

Seriously though, with the VIX down at 21, they're not that expensive...

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It will not change if Congress gets full control of the purse strings, it will get much worse. It is a sad indictment of the American public that it usually votes for the person who promises the world, not for the person who tells the grim truth. Unelected regulators and tenured judges are far more likely to tell the grim truth than are politicians, especially when the regulator or judge is not being pressured by the politican. What politician will be elected if he tells the public that the 'free lunch' does not exist, that we are handing the bill for today's programs to our kids in an amount that will destroy them, that this must be reversed. Lets face it, most of the public wants more programs, not less. This includes the rich, the middle and the poor (in my view the rich benefit the most from government policies and programs). Everyone has a vested interest, and no one wants their share cut. I've been watching this for a while, and I'm astonished by the fact that even so called 'conservative' politicans rarely phrase the debate in this way. They do not explain to the public that future generations are being crippled while we enjoy a relative largess today. The public needs to be told that it must endure two decades of pain to pay for the unfunded wars and for whatever domestic programs we keep in order to put us on a sustainable fiscal track for our children. It won't happen until there is a collapse. To my knowledge, history shows that congress rarely makes tough decisions that ensure the long term health of the nation. They are expedient, seeking reelection and seeking to pacify the electorate. I just don't see it changing. Woe to children.

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LOL!

When "the peasants storm the bastions" perhaps they will do the honorable thing and follow Hilter's example.

The best scenario: They end up like the guy who killed 13 soldiers while "doing god's work" — paralyzed with years to think about what they have done.

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fjd10595,

"It is a sad indictment of the American public that it usually votes for the person who promises the world, not for the person who tells the grim truth."

Unfortunately individual citizens have little or no clout.

Corporations get legislative candy. Whole segments of the population have their special interest treats.

As more people get stimulus gifts, welfare checks and food stamps, Social Security and Medicare, government health care, jobs within the government (the largest current hiring) and generational and ethnic preferences — those in power will gain even MORE power.

Isn't this why Obama's campaign had Acorn doing a voter registration roundup?

Well, it works!

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Yes, I've often thought about the fact that the average person is too busy going to work and raising a family to get involved, and thus the organized groups with money in their pocket get what they want. The flat tax should be implemented tomorrow but it won't be- too many vested interests. Should organized lobbying be banned? Maybe, but apparently it can't be banned under the 1st Amendment. I like to think that if I were in politics I would listen to everyone and then make the best decision I could for the all persons in the community, not just those who spoke up. And as much as possible I would factor into my decisions the future, the long term impact on the community, with an eye toward sustainability.

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Here we are now at 17.6% (admitted) unemployment. No mention of the underemployment which has occurred since the garage sale of our manufacturing jobs.

When a person has no job or too little income to maintain a mortgage, can't sell because everyone else is trying to sell, can't even go afford to another city to interview and is a new "entrepreneur" (doing odd jobs)... There is little time left to protest to his Congressman until all else is hopeless.

This is the equivalent of being "barefoot and pregnant".

What we need for starters is:
• a ban on former elected people joining the army of lobbyist
• an actual limit on terms in office (incumbents are too hard to evict)
• a pay and benefits program which does NOT encourage making Congress a lifetime career (based on the constituents' pay and benefits)

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Business Journalism outlines the Fed and Bank Relationships. Check out the DVD link.

http://www.businessjournalism.org/yourdailytipshee...

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