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Blog for December 4, 2009 [See ADDENDUM]

Bill Cara’s Morning Call

[8:14am ET] I don’t quite know what to make of the goings-on at General Motors (GM). It’s not that I think the new CEO is not one of the most capable corporate executives in the world, because Ed Whitacre clearly is; it’s more a concern that if President Obama can shake up a private corporation the way he did with GM, why can’t he seem to do the right thing with Goldman Sachs and the gang that’s been running Treasury and the Fed for almost 20 years.

Interim General Motors CEO Ed Whitacre is expected to announce a string of management changes Friday morning, including a new role for Vice Chairman Robert Lutz and the promotion of some of the company's younger managers into more prominent roles. Whitacre took over as CEO Tuesday after the abrupt resignation of Frederick "Fritz" Henderson.
http://online.wsj.com/?mod=djemalertNEWS

The collapse of the U.S. financial system can be directly attributed to a handful – maybe two handfuls – of the same people. Yet these individuals and their support networks remain in control today, and judging from the vomit-inducing remarks from some of the more prominent Senators this week, it appears very likely that America’s economic rebirth, which requires all new blood, something like GM, is going to be a long time coming.

On the trading front, the waning Financials (XLF -2.1%) showed significant weakness yesterday afternoon, and that may be attributed to concerns over this morning’s U.S. employment data, as the headlines reported, or more likely it has something to do with credit tightening, which has been pressuring oil contracts for several days and now precious metals.

Today, I think, may be a pivotal day in the capital markets. We have to watch the Dollar, commodities and the Financials. If the sell-off continues this afternoon, there will be many traders taking their chips off the table until this picture clears up.

Have a great day.


CTA Trading Desk Report

The Bureau of Labor Statistics reported US unemployment figures have dramatically improved -- cynical traders may want to read this: http://www.shadowstats.com/alternate_data) -- with the jobless rate falling to 10%, and only 12,000 more people in the nation actively searching but unable to find a suitable job (versus the forecast loss of 125,000 jobs).

S&P futures gapped to another new high, as traders were probably caught leaning short after yesterday’s big downside reversal and weak close. However, many large sellers are lurking in the background, entering the marketplace each time the S&P nears the 50% retracement of the bear market reversal (1121).

Early strength gave way to waves of profit-taking with the major indexes briefly erasing the near +2% opening bulge, before equities regained their footing, lifting modestly into the close (S&P +0.55%).

Without a doubt the biggest driver today was the soaring US dollar (DXY +1.52%), notching its largest gain in recent memory, causing gold (GLD -4.04%) to nose-dive, perhaps ushering in a long overdue pull-back in the precious metal. Given its extreme over-bought condition, gold could drop another 100 dollars in short order, and still not disturb the long-term up-trend. Any early morning strength of the next week is expected to be met by aggressive selling.

The market acts tired but has thus far refused to roll over. Repeated high volume reversals at potential inflection points demand our attention. Mondays have been very strong lately, but we will want to fade any upside towards 1120, and certainly add to shorts if 1080 is violated. Stops need to be fairly tight since the market still has not recorded a series of lower highs and lower lows.

Plan the trade, trade the plan, and respect the tape.

Regarding the need to remove some of the blog comments today, I guess some people want to ruin this for everybody. As I take more time off from blogging, there are idiots who think they can take advantage. It's embarrassing, perhaps, but all I can do is apologize for people who are clearly dysfunctional. I temporarily cut off all comments late today until I can get back administrative control of my own blog. Also, I have made some decisions and there will be changes. Unfortunately, the ones I tried recently obviously didn't work so I went back to the old way and it sure didn't take long to see what the cat dragged in. I got a lot of complaints today and I hadn't even looked at the blog for several hours. If this keeps up, I will have to give some thought to turning this blog into a premium newsletter where subscribers I approve would get free access.

Some people don't seem to realize this but I only blog for the enjoyment. I retired in January 2001, and don't need any of this. I think doing a free non-commercial service for almost six years more than meets my obligation to society. Now that I have client responsibilities, I could easily work 40 hours a week for them and dismiss the rest of this. Pretty soon (1H2010) I believe we will finally be able to offer our own exchange traded funds, which would be available to everybody, and other organizations will be marketing those, so truly I have no need to promote anything.

However, the bottom line is still my enjoyment in doing something like this in return for the many, many letters of appreciation I receive. Just so you know; if it were not for those letters, and the requests to read certain contributors, I would have shut down outside participation a long time ago. But I also realize -- even from some of the nasty letters I get -- that life is tough, and people need help. I cannot walk away.

I'll be back on Sunday with the WIR. The comments will be turned on tomorrow, I think.

Enjoy your evening.


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Nonfarm payrolls

Nonfarm payrolls -11,000., SPX +14.

Looks like end of day yesterday was a massive head fake down.
Today its gap up open day.

Re: Nonfarm payrolls

This should lead to strength in the USD. Will be an interesting day.

Re: Nonfarm payrolls

and the bull continues to roar

Re: Nonfarm payrolls

Olaf - "This should lead to strength in the USD"

Interesting. Gold and silver are getting crushed. I see gold -23 and silver -0.51 so far. Oil is still holding up, SPX still +14. I would not have expected this to be dollar positive, but I guess it is. :)

Re: Nonfarm payrolls

Another case where ADP was way off the mark. Remember they came in earlier this week with an estimate of 190K jobs lost in November.

And yep, this should provide for an interesting day of trading.

Re: Nonfarm payrolls

or is the headfake happening this morning with the "bullish" response...

Re: Nonfarm payrolls

better than expected jobs report --> stronger than expected economy --> higher than expected interest rates possible --> stronger than expected currency

Bill Cara’s Morning Call

"...if President Obama can shake up a private corporation the way he did with GM, why can’t he seem to do the right thing with Goldman Sachs and the gang that’s been running Treasury and the Fed for almost 20 years."

Well, maybe it be as simple as: The U.S. Government has taken over GM, but Goldman Sachs has taken over the U.S. Government.

Just who is Commander in Chief these days? Leadership is more than calling a summit and pondering the least disturbing action.

Re: Nonfarm payrolls

Olaf - you hit it. This is great news longer term for the bulls. Today is a different story. If the dollar gains more strength there will be some indigestion today/next few days. To me the inflation genie is coming out of the bottle and the fed needs to think about it more seriously.

Strong Jobs: What does it mean for the markets?

My first take is:

Dollar Strengthens; Commodities weaken; market is iffy for a little bit until it gains strength
Good for Banks, especially regional banks
Good for Nat Gas/Oil
Good for high debt companies

Unemployment Active Graph-Amazing

The link here shows a map of the United States showing all counties. When you select play, it shows unemployment in early 2007, color coding each county and then progresses a month at a time to Sept 2009. Its like watching a plague spreading throughout the country. Not a pretty sight.

Grym--Watch Illinois as it quickly changes to severe conditions.

http://cohort11.americanobserver.net/latoyaegwuekw...

Re: Strong Jobs: What does it mean for the markets?

I think the dollar strength is the theme that sticks here. The DX is up .89%, which is no small potatoes. But again, expect a wild day in the markets.

Re: Nonfarm payrolls

Be careful what you wish for, it just may come true:

I guess what I am saying is that quite often circumstances are not as they appear and gaps happen (were did I hear that before?).

Response to Sen. Bunning's Rebuke ...

Re: Nonfarm payrolls

I guess the work of Golden Slacks says so and well, how deep does that run?

I don't know, but when my feet get that wet; they start to burn under me.

Re: Nonfarm payrolls

And I might add stranger than fiction.

EDIT: I was speaking to the big picture and considering a gestalt.

I guess, that is a guess, to be sure...I will go to that report and actually read it because I was hastey or llazy one.

Re: Strong Jobs: What does it mean for the markets?

I apologize in advance for what I am about to say because not everyone or some do not share my beliefs. I really don't think that it pays to try to devine the markets; how can we know it. I myself seem to only know what the truth is for me...now, is that such a bad thing?

10 Year Treasury yield

Hi All – The 10 year U.S. Treasury bond price is down again today to raise the yield to 3.47% - well elevated from 3.39% early yesterday, and the recent low of 3.19% on Monday. This follows a favorable jobs report prompting rising stock markets, which is lowering demand for Treasuries in this cycle. In addition, the government will auction another $135 billion in notes and bonds next week and as is typical yields move up prior to these auctions to insure a favorable sale. Standard 30 year fixed mortgage rates are basically up .25% since Monday with the .28% rise in the 10 year yield. Have a good weekend. Happy Trading

melt up?

Sounds like the employment issue was the last missing ingredient for a melt up a la 2003/2004 year change. To me, it sounds like coast clear for SPX ~1200 and short gold should also work (TOF, are you still short?). I guess silver and oil has a potential to go up relative to gold. After a couple of months, I'll be looking for a correction in SPX.

Not sure about U$D, if this is just a short blip due to unwinding of the massive gold trade or a beginning of an up trend?

Re: melt up?

Jack - Yeah I'm still short. Looks quite weak today but I have my stops set to ensure gains.

Re: melt up?

I like your general concept jack black.

Except rather than silver (SLV:GLD isn't showing too dramatic a misalignment) I might pick oil, since USO:GLD is showing a big divergence right now - its just coming off an RSI of 20 (as of yesterday). And of course oil is +1.22 and gold is -26, which indicates things are heading in that direction you describe.

AND, I think this might be the catalyst for the dollar rebound. Once it gets rolling, the unwind should be pretty impressive.

Dollar is Getting Stronger

I think my scenario could play out if the dollar keeps going up

Re: Unemployment Active Graph-Amazing

Great link. The lone bright spot in my state is the capitol.
Gee, I wonder if that means government employment...

Perhaps they could add a second version of the map to reflect the U-6 numbers.
They would have to add to the palette of colors-
like white and pink, as in the weather maps for heavy snow bands.

FEED

On at $5.06; off at $5.14.

dollar rebound good for stocks?

I've always thought in the back of my mind, there needed to be a catalyst for the dollar rebound. COMEX defaults, failed auctions, I was thinking doom and gloom, yet what if its good news that enables the rebound?

The market has been going strictly up based on the dollar's decline. Now reverse the situation. Will the dollar climb, thus putting US exporters at a disadvantage, making our stocks look more expensive, and placing a headwind on the prices of US equities?

It's an odd thought, and one I didn't consider this morning when I read the jobs report.

Careful going long

Dollar is getting stronger and stronger.

Longer term a long position works but not today (I think)

The dark side of Dubai

Interesting story on Dubai, may make for interesting reading after market hours.

http://www.independent.co.uk/opinion/commentators/...

A snippet, "I think Dubai is like an oasis. It is an illusion, not real. You think you have seen water in the distance, but you get close and you only get a mouthful of sand."

gold - off the dance floor

Gold -39 down to 1179.

All the currencies are dropping against the buck.
The loonie is still positive, but FXA -0.90%, FXE -1.06%, FXY -1.79%.
And they're all dropping further.

Hats off to TOF for picking the (current) top in gold. :)

Re: gold - off the dance floor

I was able to see the top in gold in my sentiment indicators, too. Rydex PM allocation was close to 0.3% that has been the multiyear high (I posted that on this forum a few times). This is why I sold all my gold miners a few weeks ago (early, as usually). Also, google searches for "gold mutual fund" had a very recent spike in volume that was rather ominous.

Re: Careful going long

You are correct, oil is dropping like a rock. Dollar is exploding. Markets good for short term short?

Re: Careful going long

I'm not shorting anything other than Gold. I'm making a list of companies I think will benefit in what could be a sideways market due to uncertainty regarding rate hikes. I don't see rates going up much but just a token amount eventually. In that scenario I think regional banks do well, which considering they have been crushed makes them pretty attractive. I'm almost done with my list of the FDIC takeover assisted deals and will share those with everyone. IBKC was a big winner, which is evident in their stock price.

EDIT:
I'm not going to short anything unless a good setup exists...most likely one where the stock is showing weakness, is below it's 50 day MA/200 Day MA and where you can use the 50/200 DMA as a stop loss.

UUP respected its support from 2008

Rather interesting.

Re: Unemployment Active Graph-Amazing

Eagleone,

Cool way to show it.

I assume that those commenting on the jobs data today are thinking in terms of the short term trading effect and not being conned into thinking this BS report is reality.

This illustration shows it is far more reaching than Illinois. We just got a head start in the rust belt.

Coming soon to a community near you.

For those of you who haven't felt in personally yet, you will. No one will escape untouched. Oh, except the anointed few in what's "too big to fail".

CAAS

Ok, I lied about shorts...CAAS looks like a good short.

EDIT:
Looks like that one is not shortable.

levels to watch

The USD's 50 dma is 75.74. Currently, I show USD trading at 75.45. If we close about the DMA - and that hasn't happened since - well since before my chart has data (back to May), I'm guessing that will cause a bit of a change in sentiment towards the buck.

This market is not behaving as if happy days are here again. Now I'm just guessing, but that's because most of the rise in the market really was USD-based, not fundamentals based.

Here we had surprising, unexpected fundamental good news, and the market is clearly off its highs. However, at the same time we have a big move in the buck - also clearly unexpected, and apparently from the market's point of view, unwelcome.

And gold equities, the last one off the dance floor, is the big loser on the day at -5.25%. I gotta say, it feels like we go down from here. I feel like Muhammad Ali saying, "is that all you got?" to George Foreman's body blows.

Yes. We go down from here.

GLL

Sold 1/6 of my position at $9.14 that I bought the other day.

EDIT:
Sold another 1/6 at $9.17

GLL and FAZ

I went long this morning seeing the dollar jump (thanks TOF for hand holding).
Now eying the RSI(7) on weekly (capitulation at 10) and daily (coming from the capitulation at 10 and rising fast) makes me feel good on this trade.

I also went long FAZ this AM and so far so good and it's charts look also good, bullish divergence on RSI and flattening MA for several months now.

The trades are ST only.

buying

hes

First easy trading day in quite a while

Is it finally here? Much coveted reversal?

Like shooting fish in a barrel today... Can this be IT?

back in with the sharks

interesting where a full blown sell off in the POG is not matched by a collapse in my usual jr. miners (TRE,USG, MAD.V) a sign of things changing or just a blip in the cascading radar of gold prices...

after selling too early and selling a bit more too early i now feel a bit better, and came back in the market taking a measure approach:

1/2 CEF for safety
1/2 jr's noted above for leverage should the lack of price collapse suggest the tide has turned for miners. while im skeptical im always open to the possibility however vauge and unlikley.

good luck, this could get real ugly real fast, but my feeling is the spike in the USD was superfluous, and while it might carry a few days to a few weeks, im hesitant to put as much weight on it. ive practically turned off most media and newsletter writers at this point becuase none of them make any sense in either direciton. ive been watching guys call a top in gold since $1050 and they seem to be changing their tune faster than a top 40 dj,

ie: read Boy hoye's analysis posted at 321gold.com, usually a cogent and reasoned analyst, but 3 different "cautions" sent out over the course of 1 month that flipflopped

ron rosen... dont get me started,

the list goes on, essentially this is the extent of the newsletter writer's services:

"gold has gone up because of a market collapse none of us predicted for all assets including those which we continually recommend to our clients. gold might be near a top here, be careful but the long term trend is up so it could really go either way, if gold goes up $100 from here we will call a top again because at some point we will be right and will never cease to remind people how we called a top in future newsletters, while ignoring all our vauge wishy washy "could be a top" calls."

barf.

Spike me

What an orderly market heh...

another person who saw gold top

Re: back in with the sharks

Re: "interesting where a full blown sell off in the POG is not matched by a collapse in my usual jr. miners (TRE,USG, MAD.V) a sign of things changing or just a blip in the cascading radar of gold prices..."

My above link explains the GLD/GDX vs junior dissonance.

Re: GLL

All out of GLL at $9.1. probably early but oh well.

sharp sell-off in US treasuries

I'd be sceptical about explaing $USD rally on impending FED tightening due to today's jobs number. Does anyone really believe it won't be revised ?

What I see is a sharp sell-off in treasuries, just a few days after BOJ threatened to intervene to save their export market. If Japan is selling US Treasuries to weaken the Yen, then it would strengthen the dollar.

Obama will announce Tuesday about jobs...

He is leaning toward alternative, as all know.... watching the energy conversion companies in regards to electrical and solar/electrical transmission ( AC/DC ) providers from site to storage... ( not 'ener ', however )....

ALWAYS

ALOHA !!

This always ... A-L-W-A-Y-S ... happens on NY Time. Any major POG or POS sell off occurs sometime between 8am and 11am EST 90% of the time.

Go to this chart and see what I am talking about, right at 9am EST.

LINK: http://www.kitco.com/charts/popup/au24hr3day.html

What banks sit on the largest gold and silver shorts? NYC banks do.

I have been following these charts for many years and this has been accepted as "normal" for the rest of the World. If these same tactics were to be employed against Goldman Sachs or JP Morgan stock charts there would be people sitting in jail over this "blatant manipulation" of the US banking industry. Instead US banks when they are vulnerable get "short protection". Where was the POG and POS short protection against the US mining industry for 20 years in the 1980s and 1990s? In fact COMEX rules changed to encourage selling gold and silver back in 1980. Add that in with the Volcker Fix and you have the entire World against gold and silver. None of this has ever happened to "zinc" or "coffee" or "pork bellies" or "GS" or "JPM". Both GS and JPM have enjoyed super privileges for nearly 100 years now. How hard is it to make a profit when you control everything right down to the money in every Americans wallet? GS isn't doing "Gods Work" they ARE GOD!

In my mind it is a waste of time to criticize and blame newsletter writers and analysts and GATA and 321 or any myriad of public prognosticators for failing to be a fly on the wall at the US FED. If you do not sit inside those FOMC meetings then you know nothing! PERIOD! Its a MONOPOLY.

Out of all the investments one could chose worldwide none have ever been threatened and beat up and abused as much as gold and silver have since 1913. I never saw FDR write an Executive Order to confiscate "corn"! What would happen to Obama if suddenly tomorrow we wake up and find out that overnight he has signed an Executive Order to confiscate all of Goldman Sachs and JP Morgan shares and property and declared both of those companies illegal and the "hoarders" of said shares as anti-American? That is exactly what happened to Americans who held gold in 1933. Suddenly you were declared "illegal and anti-American". Yet the US Constitution neither mentions or permits the US Federal Reserve.

We've given the two party POLITICAL MONOPOLY and the MONEY MONOPOLY practically 100 years of power and we sit here "trading" the last 4% of what's left while the US FED and its member banks like GS and JPM count up the 96% they have. Markets and lives are destroyed and yet I am sure Bernanke will get re-confirmed. I mean why CHANGE?

Only Americans can CHANGE America ... Obama can't. He never could as he is head and Commander and Chief of the POLITICAL MONOPOLY right now.

Re: another person who saw gold top

ALOHA !!

Who called the bottom back in 2000 ... Now that's the guy I would love to heap accolades on because I'm a millionaire again thanks to him!

Who is he? Please step forward if you are the guy who called the bottom in gold in 2000!

Here is a list of who DID NOT call the POG and POS bottom in 2000:
- All of HB&B
- The US FED, including Volcker and Greenspan
- All US banks including GS
- All global banks
- 99.999999% of all Americans
- Every US President in office
- The entire US Congress
- ABX management
- Warren Buffet
- Bill Gates
- The Paulson hedge fund
- Enron
- China
- Japan
- Germany
- Hugo Chavez

Not even Oprah called it!

I left out a few more but essentially you get the gist ...

Re: Nonfarm payrolls

ALOHA !!

What about "FARM PAYROLLS"? Why is it those numbers never get any mention? As a "farmer" I can tell you they are not going to be pretty, at least from where I sit.

Re: levels to watch

Davefairtex,

"Here we had surprising, unexpected fundamental good news, and the market is clearly off its highs. However, at the same time we have a big move in the buck - also clearly unexpected, and apparently from the market's point of view, unwelcome."

The jobs report says we're down to 10% unemployment. Yes, that is surprising.

Surprising that when Obama is going to speak in the highly unemployed State of Pennsylvania the data didn't simply drop a whole percent. The dollar is just playing musical chairs with the other currencies.

There is nothing fundamentally true in anything government reported. The low quality of replacement jobs, the cuts in hours and benefits are the fundamentals people are paying attention to.

That is likely why the market is not holding the early (ST trading) gains.

Re: another person who saw gold top

Kaimu -

"I left out a few more but essentially you get the gist ..."

Certainly Gordon Brown's own bottom deserves honorable mention.

Dollar going nuts

but the market aint moving, or will it? Looks like Bill nailed it. We shall see Monday. Bon weekend.

Canadian Banks

Bill I read with interest your take on US banks and their dropping values. What is your opinion in regards to our Canadian banks. The financial index has been dropping since Sept 18 and there is quite large swings in daily values for the two banks I follow (BMO and BNS). They have exceeded the analysts expectations but I still see them as vastly overvalued.

Your take would be greatly appreciated for those of us shoveling a foot of fresh snow today and thinking of you on the beach. Would you have a spare bedroom for about six months?

Tony

gold short

Congratulations on your short gold call, teamonfuego! Your timing was amazing, as the timing of most other calls you made during this rally, often "against the crowd" on this blog.

For my part, after selling my DGP yesterday, I decided to buy a little of GLD today, for a long-term hold. I will most likely be down somewhat during the dollar rally, but this rally will be brief in the grand scheme of things. There is also a chance that the dollar will start coming down on Monday, as all recent advances have been sold pretty quickly.

sold TWM puts

I think I posted a couple of days ago that since I already have a decent position in ultrashorts, I decided to acquire new shares via put selling (so as to get much better prices or pocket the premium) as opposed to rushing in and buying the shares outright. This morning, a sell limit order was hit for 3 TWM January $27 puts at $2 each.

buck rally

The dollar has moved above its 50 dma - if it closes above it, it will be the first time this happened since April of this year. Gold down -56. In one day.

Re: gold short

Thanks David! The sale was a little early but I'll take the gains!

MTW

Short at 9.52. going to be a very short term trade.

Re: MTW, GS

Covered at $9.46. I guess I'm too nervous about a pullback in the dollar for a little while.

Went long GS at $165.15. GS is looking like it's bottoming out. It has been quite strong today.

Furniture Companies

I think furniture companies like ETH are a buy right here. Jobs strength should help out this industry, which has been beaten down.

Re: Canadian Banks

Tony,

I join you in the belief that the Canadian banks are over-bought here, but not about having spare bedrooms. There is however a ton of space in the hotels here as there seems to be everywhere.

btw, the Cdn banks have lots of company. How about JPM and GS?

Re: Furniture Companies

All right, I'll follow you this time on the long side, teamonfuego. :) Just bought some ETH at $12.66. I see that it has been trading in a narrow range since early November, and today it broke out above the upper level of that range. This could indeed portend a move higher for ETH. Will set my stop at $12 for this purchase -- if ETH is destined to move higher now, it should not dip back inside the range...

Re: ALWAYS

Kaimu said:

"In my mind it is a waste of time to criticize and blame newsletter writers and analysts and GATA and 321 or any myriad of public prognosticators for failing to be a fly on the wall at the US FED. If you do not sit inside those FOMC meetings then you know nothing! PERIOD! Its a MONOPOLY."

ha!! i take that personal,

personally i believe its not a waste time to criticize newsletter writers and/or the 321gold pushers as i believe they prey on people's fears with their false prophecies while fishing for people's money. no different than predatory lenders imho. not all but some, and i believe ive made a reasoned case for that before.

w/ respect to GATA, i would argue that they in fact do claim to have a fly on the wall of gold's inner sanctum when they refuse to reveal sources who provide their so-called valueable and shocking information from deepening inside the gold world where most never go... its a very time-honored tactic to claim inside knowledge, and it is the knee jerk reaction to believe that somehow gold's movements are purposefully manipulated beyond what we already know by a global cabal hell-bent on destroying hard assets in favour of fiat currency. even more spectacular is the idea that some individual is so deeply involved and privy to such secret information would only reveal it to GATA for dissemination.

so no, its not a blame game, but it is about keeping people honest in the finance game, and that applies to groups who seemingly have similar view to us gold bugs. the enemy lurks within!!!!

much respect mr. kaimu, i hope you can appreciate where im coming from.

J

Re: Furniture Companies

David - I joined you and bought some at $12.64. I like FBN a lot too. I also like RUTH and MRT. I bought and sold RUTH earlier this week but it's clearly not for the faint of heart.

EDIT:
I bought some FBN at $4.549 as well..

conspiracy in gold selling?

I guess I'm paranoid, but doesn't it feel like big boys decided to suddenly sell gold and other inflation assets at once and buy dollars?

I feels almost like march 14, 2008 when he had a huge intraday sell off in gold with all the gains moved to stocks. Now, we are seeing stocks sold as well.

I understand that gold was overbought but I'm surprised by the suddenness of the reversal.

FXE triangle on daily charts broken to downside

start of a new breakout?

Re: Canadian Banks

Thanks Bill I value your opinion. As far as the US banks go I am afraid I have stopped following them and the rest of the US market. I have enough trouble tracking Canadian stocks, the US ups and downs combined with the Forex is more than I can handle.

Don't worry about the spare bedroom thing, the winds are kicking up to 30 mph with the snow still coming down so I doubt I could get a plane out of here anyhow.

Tony

Top Tick

Did Goldman Sachs top tick the gold price?:

Gold Price Sells-Off Despite Goldman Raising Gold Forecast to $1,425

it sure looks like it. boy are they good at this, just like in the summer of 08 with oil:

Re: Furniture Companies

David - I think you can use the 200 DMA as a stop loss on ETH. It's at $12.54..so maybe around $12.2 just in case they stop out people?

Re: another person who saw gold top

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Re: Nonfarm payrolls

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Re: Top Tick

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Apologies

TN_Blogger, you have proven to this community why I am one step away from shutting down the blog. You were asked politely by one of my team to clean up your act. You then went on to waste everybody's time with more of your nonsense and lead to a flood of complaints in my mailbox. I then stepped in and discovered (i) there is nobody in administrative control of this blog, and (ii) I personally cannot ban you. Now people know who is really running this blog! In any event, I have now for 40 minutes after the close wasted valuable time deleting your nonsense, and I am not happy. I have sent you two emails to cease with your stupid remarks and you refuse. Enough already. I apologize to the rest of you.

Re: Top Tick

Gotta raise the price target so their groupies can sell high, right?

Never thought I'd say this,

not in a wildest dream... but for the first time since he took the position I agree with Tim Geithner:

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&si...

Comments

Comments were off for a little while today, but they are back now. Sorry for the inconvenience.

MHFT - thinking along similar lines to the group here ($GOLD)

2) I just want to pass on the torrent of rumors that came flooding back to me inspired by my GOLD SPECIAL ISSUE two days ago (click herefor the full report). The major gold producers, led by Peter Munk’sBarrick Gold (ABX), very publicly and with great fanfare took off theirhedges and ceased all forward sales, turning themselves instantly intoleveraged long gold funds. Now they are deliberately withholding spotsupplies from the market in a brazen move to squeeze prices higher.

Then the black swan flew in from Dubai (click herefor the full story), confirming everyone’s worst fears about theincompetence of all governments, and delivering the parabolic move thattook the barbaric relic up a gob smacking $80 in a week to an all timehigh of $1,220. Whether this is actually true is anybody’s guess, butthe market certainly buys it.

The yellow metal is starting to lookoverheated by me, but I’m just an old fart looking forward to his firstsocial security check. I like buying the steak and selling the sizzle,after I’ve ripped a few chunks of red meat out for myself, of course.But who knows, gold could keep flying until year end, and my governmentcheck will probably bounce anyway.

http://blog.madhedgefundtrader.com/

As an intellectual exercise, I'm curious to know trader's position on their gold holdings or their theoretical play now. Partial selling, or all out of the barbaric metal for the time being?

Re: MHFT - thinking along similar lines to the group here ...

ALOHA !!

Les, I don't trade gold I hold it. I used to buy the dips but I have filled my long term position back at $900USD POG. I am done buying, about six months before the central banks start to buy.

As I tried to point out in a prior post today the "headwinds" that are always against gold and silver would send sheer panic into other traders on other exchanges.

For instance the POG corrected today, which doesn't take a genius to figure out a correction would eventually come in the recent steep run up of the nine year gold bubble! However the POG fell close to 4.15%, down $50USD in five hours to intra-day lows $1158USD. As the MAD HEDGE FUND points out the POG rose $80USD in a week, which he terms "gob smacking", and yet he fails to point out it dropped over half that in a few hours. Now what if the DOW fell 4.15% or over 430 points in a few hours? If I bet on days when the POG goes down most often I would bet on Fridays. The US FED likes nothing better than for gold longs to fret over the weekend, as they know fewer longs will want to hold over the weekend and therefore this helps the US FED magnify the downside momentum. I have actually read FOMC meeting minutes that discuss this tactic back as far as the days when Arthur Burns was Chairman in the 1970s. Please do not tell me markets are not manipulated, unless you have read more FOMC meeting minutes than I have. If you believe no interventions take place then you believe Bernanke sat on his hands the past two years! Even Lloyd over at GS admits they helped cause the crash! I mean what do you call such admissions in FOMC meeting minutes and from a GS CEO ... just a often repeated coincidental free market accident? Those are the kind of suckers who trusted Madoff to the bitter end ... blinders on and heads in the sand! That pretty much defines the core loyalists of the DEM and REP parties, especially the likes of Rush Limbaugh.

The worst recent DOW crash started on the week of Sept 15th 2008 when the DOW was at 11,388 and by the end of the week of October 6th, some three weeks later, the DOW was sitting at 8,450, a plunge of 2,938 points. Over that time period the DOW plunged 26% or 1.7% per day, a far cry from 4.15% in five hours time.

So what did the DOW do as the POG dropped some 4.15% today? The DOW rose .22%, 23 points by the end of the day.

Now silver held up better than gold, improving the gold/silver ratio some. Both of the two monetary metals fell at precisely the same time at 9am EST. However silver spot prices never fell as hard and ended down only 1.8%, or $0.34USD or less than half of gold's correction. This is atypical and in my mind does not confirm a further long term gold correction yet, unless silver compensates and corrects more on Monday. Usually in the past major corrections I have witnessed silver corrects harder and much more, percentage wise, than gold does. But ... that was in the old days when central banks were always selling, especially Western central banks.

As an example of the political con that has been going on forever, especially when citizens get too lazy, I was handed today a German Nazi 2 Reischmark silver coin, dated 1938. On the rim of the coin is imprinted "PUBLIC GOOD BEFORE SELF INTEREST". Who was the propaganda genius that thought that up? That brings me to what is printed on our money ... IN GOD WE TRUST. Does anyone here believe the US FED cares one bit about GOD or the TEN COMMANDMENTS? I definitely know they don't care about the US CONSTITUTION otherwise they would go into voluntary dissolution and pay reparations. The con continues. Did Bernanke get re-appointed yet? TICK TOCK!

Oh What I missed...

Actually, we made some good money on this trade, but I missed my own alert. There was alot to this trade, so I thought I would post it.

I had identified 83.65 as a crucial support level on the 5 minute chart for an FCX short and missed it because of the morning moves from the (fake?) jobs report. (FCX1)

I was able to pull the trigger at the 82.50 level (well 82.47), and made a second entry at the 81.50 level exiting just above the next support level at 81. Well, too early obviously.

Shortly thereafter, Vad made the comment in the trading room that it was ready to bounce soon (around 80.50 at the time), and I shot off my mouth (as I often do)that it would bounce at 79.65 (see support line on previous chart).

Amazingly, it did what I thought it would, but you have to go to the 15 minute chart to find the reason. In the circled area at the left hand bottom of the chart, you can see where FCX gapped up. Well, those of you who are candlestick afficianados know that gaps are considered areas of support and resistance.

Re: MHFT - thinking along similar lines to the group here ...

Hi Kaimu, your long-term outlook on gold reminds me of a trade Bill called this year - the TOG - gold and short bonds.

The MHFT (whose name I have finally found out is John Thomas) continues to wait in ambush, ready to annihilate Govt. bonds with TBT:

"The dollar rallied, gold sold off, and could go on a prolonged and long overdue Christmas vacation. The real action was in the bond market, which instantly dropped two points, taking the ten year yield up 10 basis points to 3.47%. The 200% short play on long dated US Treasury bonds, the TBT, soared. Of course, one data point does not a trend make, and the government is still reporting job losses. But this could be the opening shot in what will be one of the great trades of the next decade, the collapse of the US Treasury bond market."

http://seekingalpha.com/author/mad-hedge-fund-trad...

Thomas' comments, in tune with this blog's outlook, are raised in respects to a rather disturbing body of speech quoted to Bernanke in a speech in Japan:

"One might argue that the legal objective of price stability should require not only a commitment to stabilize prices in the future but also a policy of actively reflating the economy, in order to restore the price level that prevailed prior to the prolonged period of deflation.

...Because deflation implies falling prices while the target price level rises, the failure to end deflation in a given year has the effect of increasing what I have called the price-level gap. The price-level gap is the difference between the actual price level and the price level that would have obtained if deflation had been avoided and the price stability objective achieved in the first place."

http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Investing/Con...

As Fleckenstein suggests in the link above:

"This is the core of Bernanke's heart and mind, and anyone who thinks that this Fed is going to lift a finger to fight inflation anytime -- before the unemployment level has dropped precipitously or the economy is nearly broken -- is sadly mistaken."

To quote Kaimu - who went and made Bernanke god? Outlook for gold is clear, if not cut and dried, but I am curious as to TBT's fate in near term. Thoughts from any bond vigilantes?

Re: Oh What I missed...

and here people were crucifying me for referring to the 60 and 15 min charts. It was a good trade though. Now if only Vad had made the call official... ;)

Re: Oh What I missed...

Here's the finished post with the charts:

Actually, we made some good money on this trade, but I missed my own alert. There was alot to this trade, so I thought I would post it.

I had identified 83.65 as a crucial support level on the 5 minute chart for an FCX short and missed it because of the morning moves from the (fake?) jobs report. (FCX1)

I was able to pull the trigger at the 82.50 level (well 82.47), and made a second entry at the 81.50 level exiting just above the next support level at 81. Well, too early obviously.

Shortly thereafter, Vad made the comment in the trading room that it was ready to bounce soon (around 80.50 at the time), and I shot off my mouth (as I often do)that it would bounce at 79.65 (see support line on previous chart) (fcx2).

Amazingly, it did what I thought it would (well, it actually hit 79.60), but you have to go to the 15 minute chart to find the reason. In the circled area at the left hand bottom of the chart, you can see where FCX gapped up. Well, those of you who are candlestick afficianados know that gaps are considered areas of support and resistance. Once it broke support at 80.60 there was nothing but air until 79.65.

We were then able to take the bounce (I wimped out just below 80.00) but Vad just about took a buck out of the bounce (He has a habit of bottom ticking bounces).

But here's what else I missed because of the early session ruckus (see fcx3). One of my favorite short setups(although, just reverse everything and you have one of my favorite long setups :)), and I've set the graphic at the hard right edge where there were multiple confirming signals-this would have been an aggressive entry point.

1) Price action had broken under the daily pivot and then failed when it reached the pivot again. (Very very aggressive entry: 84.30 area, stop above 84.45)

2) Stochastics had turned downward, and RSI (which is also an oscillator, but I use it as confirmation of the stochastics) confirmed. (Very aggressive entry: 84.15 area, stop above pivot 84.31)

3) The 13 and 26 front weighted MA's (and the 50 simple) had a bearish cross at 84.10 (Aggressive entry: 84.10 area, stop above pivot.)

4) Break of support line at 83.65 (standard entry with stop above 83.80 (previous day's close)

5) You'll also notice on the right hand side of the graph I track longer period MA's. In the same area of the very aggressive entry (see circle), the price had fallen under the VWAP-another confirmation.

So, all in all, made some money on the trade, but overall, I give myself a "C". I had prepared correctly, but wasn't paying attention. Not going into it here, I did not handle my exits properly, because I was emotionally happy to have made the money I did, therefore, I left quite a bit on the table.

Oh, and on entry strategies, you could of course partial in at each of the entry points to minimize risk, arriving at a full lot at the break of conventional support.

Oh...one other comment, on my trading platform I follow volume and price action, the graphics are from freestockcharts.com, which I keep on one monitor because of the indicators I can use. Volume at freestockcharts.com is a derived display using data only from the bats exchange, so it is only indicative of volume.

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Re: Oh What I missed...

No...that's not true Les. Those timeframes are useful for planning trade frameworks and you'll hear Vad reference higher timeframes on trades, they are, however, not useful for entries and exits on the type of trading Vad does.

Those aggressive entries I describe on the short side wouldn't hav been visible on the 5 minute chart never mind higher time frames

Vad would never make an official call on a bounce play of FCX because of the inherent volatility of: 1) the stock, and 2) capitulation plays in general. Those are always situations where he lets you know what he's thinking and will tell you a level to watch, but it then requires tape reading skills for entries.

That's knife catching, and Vad's been doing it a loooooong time.

ERTS

ERTS has hit the accumulation zone. I am thinking of opening a long position, and would enjoy hearing from others with advice on what the best way is to trade this stock so that I can make some money.... or should I wait and ignore ERTS altogether.

Thanks,
JO

Re: MHFT - thinking along similar lines to the group here ...

Les,

It appears to me that if Fleck is on the money with,

""This is the core of Bernanke's heart and mind, and anyone who thinks that this Fed is going to lift a finger to fight inflation anytime -- before the unemployment level has dropped precipitously or the economy is nearly broken -- is sadly mistaken."

then low rates will remain and Treasuries will stay in the 3% to 4% range for some time yet. I view the latest news of a drop to 10% unemployment as more political disinformation (formerly known as lies).

Bernanke's biggest fear has always been deflation.

In which case TBT may be a good trade near term, but not something I would hold without a close stop.

(Which you already knew, right?)

UK X Factor 2009

Last year it was Susan Boyle that was the surprise star. This year an 18 year old young man is stealing the show.

http://tinyurl.com/yzzah7l

Re: MHFT - thinking along similar lines to the group here ...

I agree with Grym re TBT being more of a shorter term trading vehicle. Also, a substantial rise in interest rates, although inevitable, may still be some time away. Looking at the chart of TBT presented by MHFT, I notice it failed to penetrate the upside of the 200 day MA twice recently.

As to gold, I don't trade it or even hold it presently. However, I am getting more interested based on the pullback yesterday. You might say I see myself as wanting to get on board the train after seeing how swiftly it left the station a while back. If it slows a bit and I can board it will be for the long haul. India just boarded and China wants on, their talk of a gold bubble not withstanding.

FD: I do have a position in a Blackrock closed end fund which has miners in it.

Re: Furniture Companies

Well, given the great close that we had for ETH, I think we can use another rule now: "Do not let a profit turn into a loss." Hence, I have just moved up my stop to my entry price at $12.67.

1937 vs 2007 fibonacci correlation

http://theinflationist.com/technical-analysis/usin...

11300 seems to be the next stop - and it looks like it will happen soon.

This could be the most stupid observation ( from me )

for the year, but....... China has a population of 1,334,510,000...
India has a population of 1,173,440,000.......
The United States has a population of 308,086,000.....
Now, China's government has a keen interest in the ' cultavation ' of its populous, keeping its working citizens doing just that... working. More and more of China's citizens are moving to cities to work. The same is happening in India... We all know about the lower wages that their workers make... But, once again, look at the population numbers... China has over 4 x the people than the USA does... India has almost 4 x the USA... Although these two countries workers are ' making less ' than their counterparts in the USA, the Total Amounts paid to the workers in China and India is almost equal to the Total Amounts paid to the USA workers, and China, in paticular, is invoking great amounts of stimulas money directly to their citizens... China HAS to keep its workers employed to keep inflation at bay and the citizens content.. So my question is... Does China ( and India ) really have a leg-up on the USA, or, in sum-total reality, is the favored trade/production status turning in favor toward the USA.. ( I have not looked hard at the China and India health care/benefits programs in relation to % of GDP and average wages... I had posted a few months ago on India's ' average inddustry wages ' and will do so again, along with China's if available )....

Re: MHFT - thinking along similar lines to the group here ...

Watching for sufficient downside in gold price to move more out of dollars.

I don't make money trading because I'm always wrong short term and get shaken out before I am proven right.

I have a very hard time buying stocks at today's prices.

I don't trust the dollar to hold value longer term.

I realize I could be wrong. They could stop the printing and borrowing, and up the rates to 3 or 4% like they should be next week, but they won't. The whole system is corrupted. Our money seems to just represent value for a fleeting moment, now. Next year the price of your gasoline could double by 4th of July if the Fed keeps printing, or drop by 30% if they don't, and there is no way for a mere mortal such as I to know which it will be on any given day. As I see it, if our money no longer represents a stable store of value, then how much longer will it remain the choice for the savings of the world? I'm very sorry that I held so much of it, and am going to take 1/2 of what's left any buy metal on major weakness, no matter how painful it is to do.

Chinese solar mfgr produces more than all US and CDN combined

Himin. Makes solar water heaters. The show I was watching said they produce more than the US and Canada combined. I'm guessing that must be in units, because they only do $300 million in sales. The show also said their solar water heaters cost $300 each.

Ok, here's the point. They have 60,000 employees. I said to myself, that's a lot of people for a small-midsize company like that. Calc it out, its $5,000 in SALES per employee.

How much does the dollar need to (or yuan rise) drop for us to be able to compete?

I'm not seeing those jobs coming to the US anytime soon.

Solar Panels

Cheapy, I have a couple solar panels on my roof originally made by Astro Power, then GE bought them out, and they started to be assembled in the USA. GE shut the plant down four years ago and they are now made in China with the GE name on them.

The CEO gets on TV re this job summit and does not talk about what he has outsourced, what a load of crap coming out of corporate America.

I would say that the dollar has to go to .42 to make these panels in America again, and it would be a scenario with a trade war with China. Of course wages in America would have to fall to 10.00 per hour along with the currency and that would be for domestic consumption only.

With Cap & Trade we will get there, our best minds are taking us on this path re green energy where all the new low paying jobs will be. I think investing in Rare Earth metals is better than investing in green energy, its like investing in picks and shovels re the miners.

Re: MHFT - thinking along similar lines to the group here ...

ALOHA !!

Illini posted - " ... China wants on, their talk of a gold bubble not withstanding."

If I were China and I wanted to buy gold cheaper I would say its in a "bubble" also! Its a nine year bubble now!

ON INDUSTRIAL SHARES

ALOHA !!

As part of my weekly REVENUE BREAKDOWN article I went through a 464 page book entitled: THE ECONOMICS OF INFLATION by Bresciani and Turroni (1934) which was a resource for the 1975 Fergusson book WHEN MONEY DIES.

In there I found this one little paragraph that speaks to "monetary liabilities" that are effecting us today in America.

"Thanks to the adaptation of share prices to the depreciation of the currency, industrial shares, in 1920 and in 1921 (until December 1st), were well suited to be a "store of value."

STORE OF VALUE is the main factor when defining MONEY!

WHEN MONEY DIES people search far and wide for something that will retain its value ... PERIOD. Get "inflation vs. deflation" out of your mind as it is a waste of time and a devised gimmick to keep the masses off balance. They are nothing but symptoms anyway. Leave people like Mish and Limbaugh to debate symptoms. Let me just say the poster boy for DEFLATION is JAPAN and Tokyo was voted the 8th most expensive city to live in back in 2008. In 2009 it was voted the 5th most expensive city to live in. The common theme of the Great Depression(deflation) and the Weimar Republic(inflation) was that citizens could not find jobs and not afford the basics to live on because "bank liabilities", in other words "monetary liabilities" were too onerous as banks and government overextended themselves via debt either in risky financial ventures or in war or both(as is the case of America today).

This is very interesting because this 464 page book studies a time when "real money", the kind with the least liabilities, had nothing to do with banks. When money becomes worthless then so do banks. During the 1920s in Germany this was the priority of MONEY:

1-GOLD
2-SILVER
3-COMMODITIES
4-INDUSTRIAL SHARES
5-BANK NOTES

In order to survive in Germany then you had to put bank notes at the bottom of your list. Here in America, in modern times, a "bank note" is a Federal Reserve Note(FRN) and as I type this post 99% of Americans put "bank notes" at the top of their MONEY list.

As the inventories of those top four MONIES ran out your last resort was hoping and praying that your bank notes would not be totally worthless in the end. But they were ...

Here is a list of the companies in Germany that prevailed, meaning their values after 1924 were higher than their values prior to WW1, through the duration of their Reichsmark monetary crisis, brought on by their defeat in WW1. Some of these companies are alive and well today. I used to buy Siemens products when I was in the electrical contracting biz. I had their humongous catalogs of electrical equipment when I did bids and speced equipment.

- Krupp
- Deutcshe-Luxemburg
- Siemens und Halske
- Phonix
- Mannesmann
- Harpener
- Bad Analin
- Linke Hoffman

These German companies (below)fared very poorly and lost anywhere form 50% to 90% of their value. All banks.

- Deutcshe Bank
- Dresdner Bank
- Commerz und Privatbank
- Mittledeutsche Kreditbank
- Diskonto-Gesellshaft

In my view these two lists can be renamed REAL WEALTH(Industry) and FALSE WEALTH(Banks). So as the German's termed them INDUSTRIAL SHARES, these shares ended up being more valuable than a Reicshmark, becoming their own currency since they were recognized as a "store of value". The main value these companies had in common other than competent management was PP&E, Property Plant and Equipment. The exact same thing Warren Buffet has stated he shops for when he looks to buy a company. Certainly his BNI play was no exception. Perhaps consider comparing PP&E next time you are assessing companies financials.

As I have shown in prior posts most US Banks are devoid of any significant PP&E ... Their PP&E is mostly made up of "debt derivatives".

Load yourself up with as many iPods and iPhones you can juggle then jack up your mega RAM trading computers to the hilt with 80 screens and you're still stuck with the inherent misgivings of the human condition. So with all the mega computing capacity and high tech SUPER TECH we are still "broke" and our money worthless!

The more I read great books on monetary history the more I am convinced ...

THERE IS NOTHING NEW UNDER THE SUN!

Re: This could be the most stupid observation ( from me )

baz22,

Your questions on China vs US are interesting and I wish I had some definitive answers.

Information abounds, but my biggest problem these days is finding verifiable information. I discount most of the US economic data we hear in the MSM. It often conflicts with the US Census Bureau and Bureau of Labor Statistics websites and certainly with what I am seeing here.

China is something else. We need to remember they are an even more top down controlled society. Here are a few comments I have gathered about China. How reliable? I don't know. The most memorable and believable are these two videos.

http://tiny.cc/PjUXe

http://tiny.cc/K6974

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From Cara Community, Submitted by alberio 8/17/2009

"I was in China last year and had the opportunity to travel in the countryside.
It was a little surreal. Like you said, an hour outside the city and they were literally using plows pulled by cows etc.

In a country which is growing so fast and can't provide enough of its own food I was amazed that it wouldn't try to speed up its agricultural processes. They face some very complex problems."
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I recently listened to the author of "Economics Don't Lie" Guy Sorman on the BookTV Channel. His comments on China's risk were as follows:

China has categorized their population as "useful" (40%) and "useless" 960%) — only the useful are participating in entering the rest of the world.

He sees three main risks to their economy.
1. The unknown as to what the 60% may eventually do.
2. China has little innovation (only about 5%) All of the new building and manufacturing is dependent on foreigners. Architects and engineers from Europe, the US and other countries were brought in to create their new infrastructure. Nearly all factories were started by foreigners.
3. China has and export dependent economy — the US is the biggest buyer, but there are several others — all are slowing now. When Wal-Mart reported bad numbers, China closed two factories in two days.
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The Associated Press, 8-22-09
China's top employment official said even if the country achieved this year's 8 percent economic growth target, only about half the 24 million jobseekers in the country would likely find work, the China Daily said.
Thirty-million migrants lost jobs when factories closed as global demand for exports collapsed last year, said the government, which has given no details of overall unemployment or how many new jobs have been created.
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Kevin Hamlin in Beijing at khamlin@bloomberg.net

May 12, 2009 (Bloomberg) -- China’s investment in factories and property surged by more than economists forecast in response to the government’s 4 trillion yuan ($586 billion) stimulus package, countering a deepening slump in exports .
“Clearly the economy is rebounding but the improvement is driven by domestic demand and domestic monetary and fiscal policy,” said Isaac Meng , a senior economist at BNP Paribas SA in Beijing. “It is still way too early to expect a sharp turnaround in global demand.”
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By Simon Rabinovitch 12-30-08
CHENGDU, China, Dec 30 (Reuters) - The biggest migration in human history has gone into reverse.
China's ocean of blue-collar workers is streaming back to the country's farming hinterland, bringing thwarted aspirations and rising discontent in tow as their city jobs, their paths out of poverty, fall victim to the global economic crisis.
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Re: MHFT - thinking along similar lines to the group here ...

Cheapy,

"I don't make money trading because I'm always wrong short term and get shaken out before I am proven right."

Me too.

I have been making a steady 3 to 4% this year by sitting with most of my cash in GNMA and other bond funds. The only really impressive part of my holdings has been gold and I'm also planning to add during the present pullback.

Jobs are key and the "good report" this week certainly spiked the market.

Unless I missed something, the report was simply not as many jobs lost as expected. But somehow this additional reported loss, even though small, made the total unemployed figure drop. It was just in time for Obama to make an uplifting speech in PA too.

Too bad we can't take talk to the bank. He'd make us all rich!

I'm only an artist, but I did successfully run my business for over forty years. Think what I could have done if I could figure how to make my math work for me like that! (Or at least make people believe it was meaningful.)

Life gets curiouser and curiouser ;-)

Re: MHFT - thinking along similar lines to the group here ...

Well said Kaimu, China is hardly going to telegraph there actions.China only revealed this April that they had increased their Gold reserves by 76% since 2003.

Here is a link to a chart of Gold % annual change in various currencies.
http://tinyurl.com/597g8m

2004 to 2009 average annual increases are:

USD 19.4%,AUD 15.8%,CAD 15.4%,CNY 17.8%,EUR 16.3%,INR 19.6%,JPY 17.6%
CHF 16.0%,GBP 21.6%
You dont see FETV reporting these figures.
These increases have absorbed many corrections that can shake out holders(There will most likely be hefty corrections in the future too),if Gold is still in a bull market then it will reach new highs, everyone has to decide for themselves if Gold is in a bull or not.

Re: Apologies

I for one, hope you do not take that step. A "step" to the side to catch your breath maybe? But, you do not strike me as the type of person who would ever let anyone keep you from continuing down the path you have chosen. And you do not need to apologize, I learned along time ago where the "Ignore" button is.
For all you do, "Thank You".

Re: ON INDUSTRIAL SHARES

Thanks Kaimu. When assessing large cap/blue chip PP&E, I keep in mind that hedge funds and/or foreign sovereign states have cherry picked all the best commercial real estate assets in the country with mostly excessive leverage. The exception may be railroads and mineral rights. The only major U.S. manufacturers left without runaway debt and sustained demand are in the defense business like BA, LMT and, perhaps, agricultural chemicals like POT and MOS.

Of course, there is the international flavor of today's businesses that could be crushed by gov't policies to defend currencies like embargos, trade limits, sanctions, dumping (opium on the Chinese!), foreign ownership laws and tax (Brazil), boycotts, and, of course, troop build-ups and skirmishes (wolrd police/Afgan).

Am I missing something other than to start trading on a foreign exchange in a foreign currency, hold my silver and gold (thanks again!), and swing trade big positions in the big commodities like XOM? I'd like to support the Nation like Old Man Buffett so maybe I could go big into a railroad with a reasonable P/E.

So I ask, am I getting it yet?

Re: ON INDUSTRIAL SHARES

ALOHA !!

When it comes to dictatorships and mob rule dictatorships and monarchies and the likes there are NO GUARANTEES. My strategy has always been to cover my bases and diversify into the stratosphere. Once that's done you have done the best you can.

HIGH PP&E STOCKS WILL BE MONEY!

As the US Dollar travels the assigned historical destiny of all fiat money people will come to understand that INDUSTRIAL SHARES will once again be money, a "store of value". At that point you will see a gazillion pundits and the likes calling it a "bubble". As I scan the vast financial and economic horizon the biggest most excessive bubble I have ever seen my entire life is the current LIABILITY BUBBLE. But instead our media prefers to focus on a "gold bubble" or an "oil bubble" or a "commodity bubble", yet those three are in reality "money". As time goes by and the US DEBT progresses to infinity you will see that. I will guarantee you this that the same banks that created this corrupt monetary system in the end will be the same one who will be holding those three "monies" in the end, even though they are the KING SHORTS now. These same banks have something no other trader in America or the World has ... a WORLD RESERVE CURRENCY PRINTING PRESS! Politicians and bankers are in the business of theft. They may call it "trading" or "leverage" or "reserve banking" or "taxes" but its none of those ... its wholesale theft. That's where you take what never belonged to you. Isn't that what 2 year olds are taught not to do?

Truly back in 1933 had FDR been a true patriot an American he would have written his Executive Order to confiscate, not the people's gold, but JP Morgans assets and then declare the US FED illegal and cease all fiat bank assets, but instead he "attacked" not only the US CONSTITUTION but WE THE PEOPLE! On that day he declared a "coup" in Washington DC whereby Americans were relegated to second class citizenship, one step up from an illegal, just like their gold. If I were the Congressional historian FDR would have gone down as the worst American President just for that one Executive Order. It has all been downhill ever since for our money and our Freedoms.

Re: MHFT - thinking along similar lines to the group here ...

ALOHA !!

Johnuk ... Amazing isn't it!!! All any one would have had to do after the TECH BUBBLE/DOT COM crash in 2000 was to take all their profits from Global Crossing, Pets.com and the likes and buy gold and silver and then just sit there for the next ten years and you would have outsmarted about 95% of the markets. Instead we were all diverted into yet another HB&B con game ... REAL ESTATE. Do you think we'll ever see a TV show called "FLIP THIS OPEN PIT"?

Kuwait sells Citigroup stake for $4.1 billion

DUBAI, United Arab Emirates (AP) -- Kuwait's sovereign wealth fund said Sunday it booked a profit of $1.1 billion by selling the stake it took in Citigroup Inc. less than two years ago when the banking giant was strapped for cash.

The Kuwait Investment Authority said in a statement it sold the preferred shares after converting them to common stock for $4.1 billion. That works out to a gain of nearly 37 percent on its $3 billion investment.

Calls to the Kuwait fund for further details went unanswered. A Citi spokesman declined to comment.

Gulf Arab nations' sovereign wealth funds have been heavy investors in U.S. and European companies, using their oil wealth to buy large stakes in companies ranging from Citi to Germany's Volkswagen AG and Mercedes-Benz parent Daimler AG.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Kuwait-sells-Citigro...

haha, if I had to guess, I'd say Kuwait retains the industrial capacity of various manufacturers as Kaimu points outs, as a tangible asset, and see the writing on the wall with the investment in HB&B. Rats abandoning a sinking ship?

Re: Kuwait sells Citigroup stake for $4.1 billion

ALOHA !!

I think these Sovereign Wealth Funds are prioritizing to lessen their exposure to the LIABILITY BUBBLE. As an example XOM and CVX all through this 2007 to 2009 GLOBAL FINANCIAL HURRICANE did not lower or cut dividends they raised them. It was always just the FALSE WEALTH corporations tied to banks and banking that were in serious trouble. Would there ever come a day in America where the US government gave $800BIL USD to oil companies?

"If XOM is ever broke that means the US government is already broke!" is what my Father used to tell me. Look at what companies survived the Great Depression in America and those that survived the Weimar Republic and the German defeat in WW1 and WW2 and (notice that the governments and their money did not survive)you will see that the only way banks survived was to get bailouts(stolen capital they never earned), by their King's apron strings. When banks make their King "partners" then they know they tacitly own the government. Now that is what has happened here in America only we're at the Nth degree now, where financial and economic derivatives have been so muddied, entangled and complicated that the only "experts" Congress has to chose from are ex-Goldman and ex-JP Morgan and ex-Citi execs.

We need to CHANGE our monetary system if its that complicated! There are much simpler and much more sound financial ways in the World if you have a monetary base that is not corrupt and up to its eyeballs in "liabilities". If you want to follow the LIABILITY BUBBLE then it is available M-F at the US TREASURY DAILY STATEMENT. That "statement" is nothing but solid 100% liabilities. Not just a few bucks worth either ... TRILLIONS worth! This past week it just went over $9TRIL in liabilities in a little more than two months time, $4.5TRIL per month! Can anyone top that? Hands ...

Many of you, including Mish, will poo-poo that and say "Ah, hey that's not real debt all those Government Account Series thingys, it's owed in the future and owed to "us". That's for the future generations to pay off!" I would say ... "You mean like your 30 year mortgage isn't really your "debt" since its owed in the future!" Why would the US TREASURY bother spending millions to record it and issue IOUs every week if it were not real DEBT? If its not "real debt" then just get rid of it and see what happens. Tell all those Trust Funds that the US Treasury now considers all that debt "not real debt" and that "not real debt" will not be repaid. You want to see instant riots in America then tell Americans there is no more Social Security or Medicare? I guarantee you it will not be just AARP rioting, but everyone who has paid a dime into those entities will be in the streets and the reign of the TWO PARTY POLITICAL MONOPOLY will be over that very day. That's how "not real" it is ...

KUWAIT has decided to exit the LIABILITY BUBBLE ...

Re: Solar Panels

Gary, the U.S. solar industry provides a textbook case study in how structural discrepancies are killing a manufacturing sector in the U.S. while still in its cradle.

Simply, China can manufacture solar panels more cheaply because it has lower labor costs and laxer regulation. The U.S. cannot compete without sacrificing core principles.

Evergreen Solar, a manufacturer based in Devens, MA, is a great example. They built a state-of-the-art manufacturing plant in 2008, but it has yet to reach operational profitability. Originally, the company management said they would be profitable by this time, but that was before average selling prices (ASPs) decline by over 30%. Much of that decline is directly attributable to Chinese manufacturers dumping product on the market. One Chinese solar executive (in a moment of rare frankness) said they were dumping.

What has Evergreen done to combat this unfair trade advantage? They have formed a joint manufacturing agreement with a Chinese partner. While this serves a critical strategic goal of gaining a foothold in the Chinese market, it was equally critical for the company to lower its production costs. This agreement, once fully implemented, will provide Evergreen with sustained operational profitability.

And what will happen to their Devens facility? For now, the company says it will continue to manufacture key components of their solar panels. But make no mistake, they will be off-shoring a large number of jobs from the U.S. to China.

Re: Solar Panels

ALOHA !!

US corporations pay $1 in taxes and get $6 in debt back ... That is why we cannot compete.

Re: ON INDUSTRIAL SHARES

Lots of big industrials in the FTSE 100 ,75% of their earnings come from overseas.Its a pity the government has wrecked UK plc's finances.
Must go back to bed ,got flu.

Re: ON INDUSTRIAL SHARES

Kaimu, thanks for putting together that summary, it is useful.

Jobs Summit

Robert Reich, former Secretary of Labor under Clinton outlines a future for the US which we here in the rust belt have already been experiencing.

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Worrisome Thoughts on the Way to the Jobs Summit

"But here's the real worry. The basic assumption that jobs will eventually return when the economy recovers is probably wrong. Some jobs will come back, of course. But the reality that no one wants to talk about is a structural change in the economy that's been going on for years but which the Great Recession has dramatically accelerated.

Under the pressure of this awful recession, many companies have found ways to cut their payrolls for good. They’ve discovered that new software and computer technologies have made workers in Asia and Latin America just about as productive as Americans, and that the Internet allows far more work to be efficiently outsourced abroad.

This means many Americans won’t be rehired unless they’re willing to settle for much lower wages and benefits. Today's official unemployment numbers hide the extent to which Americans are already on this path. Among those with jobs, a large and growing number have had to accept lower pay as a condition for keeping them. Or they've lost higher-paying jobs and are now in a new ones that pays less."

http://robertreich.blogspot.com/

Re: ERTS

FWIW. I have no position.

ERTS is in the accumulation zone BUT it is at 20 on the 7 day RSI which is kinda like dead man's land. It'd be better if it got below 10 (a capitulation play) or broke above 30, triggering a RSI buy.

I look at the max pain options expiration to see if there is some "gravity" to pull the stock up. Jan 2010 max pain is 17.5.

At current price of 16 bucks, that's not much upside.

I'd continue to screen for other opportunities and watch ERTS.

JMO

Swan Dive

Hi All - Early trading in Asia has Au off a bit at $1148 down from the close ~$1161. Looks like the powers-that-be have decided to send the huddled masses to the sideline for a bit. My Australian stuff is holding steady though. Happy Trading

GLD observations/trade

looking at weekly candlestick chart, very prominent kangaroo tail reversal - a bearish signal. (Thank you, Mr. Obvious).

Max pain for Dec is 107, 102 for Jan so there's some downside pull.

The low risk trade is to short halfway up the kangaroo tail or about 117 with a buy to cover order just above the kangaroo tail or 119.72.

FD:Long DZZ at much higher prices.

Do your own homework.

WIR

Just wanted to say thanks for a very poignant, straight foward WIR. It is one of my favorite reads of the week.

I know you are probably familiar with Ritholtz's blog. That structure seems to have freed up his time. Just a thought.

WIR

Thanks Bill.

TTWO

capitulation play. (RSI 7 day below 10)

buy limit 7.25 good for the day.

Jan max pain 12.5.

do your own homework. No position

Re: Solar Panels

Flash based video poking fun on Unemployment "Data"

http://bit.ly/6E0NF2

I love youtube

THANK YOU BILL!

If you go premium Bill just remember some of us little guys who have been here awhile, don't cause trouble and read this blog daily. Though we may not be able to contribute as much as others we are here and deeply appreciate all that you provide for us. The fact that it is free is nice bonus!!! Thank you Bill.

Re: Solar Panels

I agree entirely. Versus the Himin solar water heater example from last night, when your competitors have SALES of $5,000 per employee, it means that production costs must be much less than that, say $4,000 each, allowing for 20% overhead and margin, but then we are off even worse, by at least a factor of 10 or 20 vs costs to produce the same goods here, because I don't think you could survive here in the states without averages sales of at least $40,000 or $50,000 per employee, because obviously there would be no way you could even afford to pay minimum wages, plus labor taxes and healthcare, let alone buy any materials for them to assemble.

It doesn't bode well for those left trying to make things here, even if the dollar is debased another 50% from here. It just buys the dinosaur another week or two of agony before it dies.

How come we can see this and our government and all its economists cannot?

Another Thank You Bill!

I hope you never find it redundant to be thanked for your work on all our behalf, because your clarity and insight is a gift to us all, and I am very appreciative of it. I know I speak for many others in saying thanks for all you do - it's the kind of work that makes a difference in the world.

Mandate Congress to enroll in healthcare plans they create

This came in an email. Might be worth it. Then again, might just be bladder evacuation into a headwind.

THIS SHOULD BE AS IMPORTANT TO DEMOCRATS AS IT IS TO REPUBLICANS. AND YOU ARE SIGNING ON THE CONGRESSMAN'S WEBSITE -- NOT SOME RANDOM LIST -- NOTHING TO PASS ON INTO LIMBO.PLEASE PASS THIS FAR AND WIDE, THIS WILL BE TAKEN INTO ACCOUNT

Please read and act, only takes a minute! On Tuesday, the Senate health committee voted 12-11 in favor of a two-page amendment courtesy of
Republican Tom Coburn that would require all Members and their staffs to enroll in any new government-run health plan. It took me less than a minute to sign
up to require our congressmen and senators to drink at the same
trough!

Three cheers for Congressman John Fleming of Louisiana!

Congressman John Fleming ( Louisiana physician) has proposed an ammendment that would require congressmen and senators to take the same
healthcare plan they force on us (under recently passed
legislation they are curiously exempt).

Congressman Fleming is encouraging people to go on his Website
and sign his petition (very simple - just first, last and email and
click one yes or no). I have immediately done just that at:
http://fleming.house.gov/index.cfm?sectionid=55&se...

Please urge as many people as you can to do the same!
If Congress forces this on the American people, the Congressmen should
have to accept the same level of health care for themselves and
their families. To do otherwise is the height of hypocrisy!

Please pass this on!!

Re: MHFT - thinking along similar lines to the group here ...

Grym,

Yes, the timing of perceived "good" numbers relative to OB summits and trips/speeches is uncanny, isn't it?

I think the jobs report did actually improve, but we are still getting worse, but "less worse" than we were expecting. Is that good? No, but certainly better than the alternative. The question remains how much of what we have been fed in employment/unemployment data this year has been fictional?

We get the 1st installment of that sad tale next month, but as yet another "adustment", rather than having it included in actual reporting at some point. I expect it will go unreported as usual. I would guess that in Jan/Feb they will "adust" away another 500,000 or 1,000,000 American workers to the ranks of the unemployed. BTW, the term "Adustment" might be new to you, so just to be clear, its a changing of reported data, without thought or question, on a systematic and periodic basis, to any number decided (see Bush II) by those in power at that time to be correct. This process of "adustment" is believed to be carried out by magic fairies, who wave their wands at the previously reported numbers, producing new "blessed" numbers. As silly as that gets, the main stream media of course never reports on it, and pretty much ignore the data having been changed, as well as the fact that it must have been reported wrong originally, and was wrong all along.

Curiouser and curiouser, indeed...

Re: Another Thank You Bill!

Bill,

I'll add my voice to those expressing thanks. Your guidance in this confused market rings true in contrast to the self-serving mainstream financial media. Please don't let the aggravation of a few rogues cloud the fact that you are helping many in their trading.

5 AIG Execs threaten to leave if bonuses are cut! U Kidding me?!

"Five high-ranking executives at American International Group Inc. said last week they were prepared to quit if their compensation is cut significantly by the insurer's government overseers, according to people familiar with the matter."
http://bit.ly/5zdxrL

I say, try the unemployment line buddy!

Re: 5 AIG Execs threaten to leave if bonuses are cut! U ...

As a small business owner, I do not need them increasing my unemployment insurance which is slated to go up 1000%. It will become 5% to 10% of the cost of doing a project, is that sick or what?

So if they quit, I would fight them on the claim.

Re: 5 AIG Execs threaten to leave if bonuses are cut! U ...

I retract my end statement. People like this don't deserve anything if they leave. America is a hostage to the bankers. Wake up folks

Great WIR, Bill!

It really is. So many things there I agree with.

My wife wanted me to put all her money into gold middle of last week. I told her it was too high and to wait, but it went higher still. Thankfully she gave me the benefit of the doubt, and its now well below $1180 where it was at the time she asked me to move it. I agree that if you look at previous gold runs, they go zoom, but then pull back at least for a few weeks, and that would be sufficient to have those who bought the top, like my wife asked me to do, crying in their beer and selling as the losses mounted. For me, I think $1060 will be where I want to start moving that way again, figuring if it gets much cheaper than that, some of this loose money that seems to be going everywhere but into real investment of the type that employs Americans or produces anything to export or replace imports, will rather be holding metal than paper promises.

"All I am trying to do in this blog is keep the People from blowing up their own capital. So my message is always the same: plan the trade, trade the plan, respect the tape. Don’t listen to stories and don’t accept the govt data as gospel."

And thanks for that comment. The 1st part is one I need to learn better, and the 2nd was one I have. Poor KRY! I'm sorry, but isn't there some problem for them in VZ? Namely with a fellow named Hugo who takes whatever he wants? I can't imagine, knowing that, having any respect at all for anyone that would pump it, or assist with same, and I really don't see, given the NAME of your blog, that you would be a good candidate for them to try to enlist. Your reaction was exactly what I would have hoped for.

Another Thank-you Bill

I must add my thanks to Bill for all that he throws out there for the masses. It must be hard trying to please everyone out there in blogville and take care of clients and have a life and... Just, Thank-you for all that you do DanR

Great WIR:

Thank you Bill for another superb WIR. Seems markets world wide have reached an inflection point or are approaching exhaustion. And thank you for all you do.

WIR

I see that I'm late in making these comments, but I will add my two cents. I do very much appreciate the WIR every week and I would like to thank Bill for all of his work here. The WIR is always well written and the information very interesting and useful.
Frank

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