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Cara's Commentary & Community Chat, Fri., Mar. 13, 2009

[8:00am ET] A reversal of fortunes based on a reversal of headlines. A week ago, the public was told that economic stimulus programs in the US, Japan and China would be ineffective for at least another year. This morning, not surprisingly, the headlines say that the economic stimuli are working.

What’s happened in the interim is that Humungous Bank & Broker (HB&B) is now satisfied that whatever deal they were going to get from the taxpayers of the world is in the bank, so to speak. The announcements to come at this weekend’s meeting of the G-20 finance ministers in England will confirm it.

The G-20 communiqué will read: economic stimulus and bank bail-out programs are now sufficient to ultimately restore the public’s confidence.

The fact that HB&B caused the global financial problems with their outrageous credit default swap scam is already an historical footnote. The principal message we should not forget, however, is that the leading bank CEOs refused to be accountable, have managed to get the people to bail them out, and yet still retained their positions of control. So much for shareholder power; the people now see it doesn’t exist.

There will be no new securities act, regulatory system, general agreement on currencies, or any other piece of legislation or international agreement that would serve to grow the people’s power over HB&B in any significant manner. The same bankers and the same lobbyists will be making the same pay-offs to the same politicians who will be receiving the same advice and marching orders from the same “advisors”.

But the public will be happy because the equity market will rally, interest rates are low (for now), and government will transfer the public’s money from the right pocket to the left and from the children and grandchildren to the parent, so all will seem well and there will be enough money left over to get by.

Years ago I was called a skeptic. Now, you all realize I was just a bit ahead of my time. Like a child’s discovery there really is no Santa Claus, the lights just went on around the world that the people are mere chattels of the system, whatever political label you wish to call that system.

All we the people can do is to work hard, manage whatever enjoyment we can, and contribute to our struggle for social equity. I will do my share, and hope you do yours. No political regime is going to do this for us.

As we now seem to live for the moment; enjoy your day. Stock prices will rise for a fourth straight day.


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It's pretty dismal the way it

It's pretty dismal the way it plays out, isn't it. One or two "bad" people will be jailed in a show trial. The people are left to eke out their lives, knowing that wrongs have been righted and all is well.

Reminds me of my preferred japanese animation. Ghost in the Shell. Same script.

I wonder how Americans will tell themselves of the wrong committed here, or perhaps revisionism will saintify the robber barons of today, as those of the past are now praised.

Is there something to the

Is there something to the fact that gold is zooming at the same time as financials?

Are investors bidding up gold for the next down leg in the S&P?

Is it across the board exuberance?

Or is it just a cyclical supply and demand issue?

Cara 100 Ratings Changes

Good morning.

PAYX - Upgraded to Neutral @ UBS

Downgrades:

DNA - to Neutral @ JP Morgan
DNA - to Sell @ Argus
DNA - to Hold @ Citigroup
DNA - to Equal Weight @ Barclays
DNA - to Perform @ Oppenheimer

New Coverage:

MCD - Robert W. Baird Initiates Coverage with an Outperform. Price Target = $61

DNA

Yikes, looks like a possible short....LOL!

c

8 mill shares traded pre market so far.
1.85 up 10%.
Looks like the massive shorts are starting to cover.
3 days of green for markets, now another day of green is in the cards.
It's been a long time since the makets have seen 4 green days in a row.

Re: Is there something to the

Financials, then Oil, the metals, then gold.

Gold lags a couple days.

Jon Stewart interviews Jim Cramer

Well worth watching. I believe Jon Stewart has found the voice of outrage that most people in America and the world feel about what has happened to them over the past year. People who have no active daily interest in the markets, but who have for years responsibly contributed to their 401Ks or other retirement account, who now must begin again from scratch, who have no faith or confidence left in the markets, and who rightfully feel cheated and betrayed by the very interests Jim Cramer represents.

Jon Stewart and Jim Cramer

It's a devastating critique of the system that people like Bill and Barry Ritholz and too few others have been warning against for years.

Re: Cara 100 Ratings Changes

Genentech (DNA) is being fully acquired by Roche, so why these downgrades? Is that something to do with the scorecard where broker-dealers records of the % of buys vs sells are scrutinized? I'm left wondering.

Re: Is there something to the

LOL, after CP knocking us over the head yesterday with this formula you'd think I'd have worked it out...

I didn't realise this formula - i.e., Financials, then Oil, the metals, then gold - happened withing days. I thought CP was talking about longer term cyclical issues.

I feel managed

I feel so managed these days. Last week things were gloom, and now this rash of good news? I wish it were true, but it doesn't seem right. The timing is too good. Somehow the news gives air-time to the leaked memos of Bank CEOs? Did we learn nothing from Bear, from Lehman? Ah, but it's a new trick. A leaked memo is "more credible" than an actual statement.

And Bernie Madoff is the only guy who is getting the book thrown at him. Talk about speedy justice, have you ever seen this happen before in the US? What must they have done to get him to plead guilty in the space of - what, a month?

Jon Stewart was right, there's a massive game going on behind the curtain, being played with our 401k and pension money. And they all know about it, all of them at CNBC. But they can't call it out, because whoever does that "won't work in this town ever again."

The only thing to do is improve your life locally. I don't think the game will last.

An interesting counter

An interesting counter intuitive argument from an accountant...

>"Banks are much healthier than they were reported to be

To figure out true earnings at a company, one must look at how much income taxes the company actually paid to the IRS. Large businesses were audited by the IRS once every three years, and company officials would go to jail if they defrauded the government; therefore, a company CEO or CFO have very little incentive to mess with the IRS. The best example would be Enron - even it reported lots of money to investors, but it reported no incomes to government. The same thing would be true for Indymac and Countrywide - they did not report income to the IRS, therefore, they paid almost no money to the government Last year, Citigroup reported 32 billion in losses to investors using GAAP. Take a guess how much it reported to the IRS? It reported $10 billion in profit and it PAID $3.5 billion to government. NO idiot would pay money to IRS if it didn’t have to.

Conclusion

If mark to market rules are modified or suspended today, I expect the US economy could grow above 8% in the 3rd quarter."

http://tinyurl.com/c72kjm

Bill, any grain of truth in this?

Stocks That Aren't Coming Back

New from Jim Jubak:

http://tinyurl.com/bjy6xd

Four Cara 100 Stocks are mentioned, two in a positive light (CSCO, FSLR) and two in the negative (HBC, AMAT).

Worth a read. DENSA Approved.

Re: Stocks That Aren't Coming Back

Thanks bull hunter. I was eying of HBC as a play today because it hasn't attracted bidding pre-market - although the analyst is taking a wait and see approach to HBC.

Bill's Seeking Alpha Articles

Bill, I subscribe to your posts via seeking Alpha alerts, even though I usually always see them first here. However, I am disappointed that the Seeking Alpha posts are usually a day late and probably of little value to readers, most certainly of little value to me. For example, this mornings Seeking alpha alert for Bill is his post for Wednesday's market. It's a shame Seeking Alpha's readers can't get current daily copies from one of the very best authors on the market.

The Jon Stewart JC interview is up

there are 4 parts. Intro and parts 1-3
http://www.thedailyshow.com/

Jim Cramer Interview Outtake Pt. 2, is where Jim is visibly telling us he wants out of his skin. And where Jon starts to turn up the heat on him.

Not surprised, but more demoralized

I'm sorry not to be surprised by how this "crisis" is playing out. After writing to my representatives for decades with no satisfaction, I turned to the financial pubs, unions, politically active organizations (all they want is money to keep them going) — nothing came of any of it.

After watching Obama for several years and regretting having once voted for him, I see his lack of real legislative leadership leaves him ineffective as CEO of the USA. His only skill seems to remain his ability at silver-tongued self promotion.

Yesterday he repeatedly said. "I'm confident... (put in whatever proposed solution) Blah,blah, blah."

Bill's assessment today says it all. So much for Obama's, "...end of business as usual."

Each day I hear more bad news of the effects this scam is having on my friends and relatives.

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I did, however, awaken my broker to the fact that if they restrict my trading ability by disallowing the 2X or 3X ETFs, I will disallow them of my business. They have granted a "dispensation" on this protection from myself. At least in this case money talks for me.

Re: Cara 100 Ratings Changes

Bull...

DNA is no longer a Cara 100 stock

Re: Cara 100 Ratings Changes

Bill,

In my limited experience, moving the ratings of an acquired security towards Neutral seems to be a common practice amongst the various ratings agencies.

In the case of DNA, the acquiring company, Roche, has been downgraded because of the debt it is taking on from the DNA acquisition. If we assume that DNA is now Roche, and the price ($95)has been put to DNA shareholders, Genentech should now be rated the same as one would rate the acquiring company, no?

Regards,

BH

Re: DNA/Biotechnology

Biotechnology is tied to funding cycles. I think the Obama administration/Kathleen Sibelius will create a friendly cycle for the next few years. The Mission Bay complex in San Francisco will come into its own over the next decade as a major biotechnology R&D center. I would seriously consider overweighting the sector going into the next bull market.

Re: Not surprised, but more demoralized

C'mon, Grym. Isn't it a little too soon to write off his presidency?

I haven't been happy with his choices for key economic positions, but the man has only been in office two months. And I am pleased with the long overdue refocusing of priorities on alternative energy, health care and the economy (such as it is).

Isn't it also possible that people like Summers and Geithner are already losing Obama's confidence as the voices of common sense, like Sheila Bair and Paul Volcker resonate more soundly?

Re: Not surprised, but more demoralized

Congratz Grym on taking charge of your money with your broker. Here in the Big White (and FREEZING)North I've found lately that I'm getting little or no push-back from the bankers to my 'requests'. Almost negotiated a 42" big screen from them! lol But you know what they say re close...
S

Cara 100 Update

DELL - Upgraded to Neutral @ AmTech Research

NKE - estimates reduced at Barclays through 2010. Inventory levels do remain high, because of weak future orders. Overweight rating.

ORCL - estimates, target lowered at Morgan Stanley. Target cut to $20. Estimates reduced because of lower sales demand, though the company is keeping a lid on costs. Overweight rating.

PAYX - estimates reduced through 2010, target cut at Barclays Capital. Weak economy and lower interest rates will weigh on results. Equal-weight rating and new $25 price target.

UTX - numbers cut at Merrill Lynch/Bank of America to $47. Estimates also lowered, following the company's investor meeting, because of the global slowdown. Buy rating.

gold the jumping bean

gold doing a little mexican jumping bean move pre-market.

we have been in this position many many times before.

fresh off a down swing an upswing into past resistance points. it looks promising when these sudden thrusts occur but we musnt fall into the trap until we know its got legs. moves upto and above the resistance points are the key, and right now we have butted up against a resistance point in the high 930's, no breakthrough yet.

volume on the miners was above average but not as strong as the downward days the past few sessions. so some follow through on the miners will help make the bull case for gold resuming the uptrend back towards $1000.

its still 50/50 at this point short term imho, in context of a longer-term bull market.

news clips about chineese officials expressing concern over the safety of its US debt holdings are nothing short of manufactured propaganda. we have seen this countless times and i figured id say something about it before some one posts the story with the lead-in that "this is very bullish for gold", as if china would tip its hat giving the world a chance to short the dollar before they did.

we saw what happened before with allegedly bullish news from russia buying gold, 1 week later gold was down big. no one asked who was selling russia's gold, and no one will ask who will buy china's US-based debt.

barring single day rushes of panic, gold will move on its own time, not because of what some strategically manufactured news piece will incite.

good luck.

Re: I feel managed

davefairtex - Interesting your comments coincide with something that's been hitting me lately. Like you, I feel and know I'm trying to be manipulated. They are doing their damn best to make us see and accept their Alice-in-Wonderland perspective. That's their job.

Ours is to face reality as much and as well as we can. Without deviation, delusion, illusion and with others who are honest, have integrity and who speak and act that way with gratitude. That's where this community is so important. Thanks again to all.

Yes, there's lots to complain about, to get furious about, to become cynical about, to just ignore, to become depressed and apathetic about. However each one of us here can make a difference by continuing to share with others of like mind and offer back in each of our immediate real-world communities what we can to others less fortunate than ourselves. And there's no shortage of those truly needing that assistance... unfortunately.
S

Simple Change

We are told to trust our educators, bankers and government officials. We are told they act in the public's best interest. That they are best suited to their purpose. We are told they are honest and ethical.

Yet they have shown themselves to be underserving of our trust. They consistently betray that trust by abusing their priviledge and power for their own purposes. And they twist the facts, omit data and misrepresent the truth to hide their abuses.

We treat them like celebrities and royalty and wonder why their abuses are not judged and punished like every other citizen. We expect accountability and yet we allow ourselves to be manipulated by them. We are willing pawns in their elections and agendas.

If we are to change, we must learn to question motive. We must not be so willing or quick to trust those that seek priviledge and power. We also must reduce the size and scope of that priviledge and power.

We must see their sales pitches and deceptions for what they are and turn our backs on them. We must recognize they have placed shills in our midst. And we must realize that more often than not less is more and the essential truth of Simplify, Simplify, Simplify.

QUOTES FROM THOMAS JEFFERSON

A very wise man and todays Politicos could stand to uphold these:

It is incumbent on every generation to pay its own debts as it goes. A principle which if acted on would save one-half the wars of the world.

Our democracy will cease to exist when you take away from those who are willing to work and give to those who would not.

I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of
them.

Ahhhhh Bill

Never truer words spoken.

StockCharts Gold Info

The S&P 500 Index (yellow line) hit its most recent high in early October of 2007 (red arrow). Since then it's been all downhill. Were there any clear warning signs before the plunge began?

It's interesting to compare $SPX to $GOLD (the red line). After creeping upwards consistently (on a log scale chart) since early 2001, gold spiked up to 715 in mid-2006 but quickly retreated back to its normal uptrend line. However, gold's rate-of-increase increased as soon as it crossed 700 the second time in late August (blue vertical line). $SPX began its fall soon afterwards.

Last November $GOLD retreated back to 705 before rallying again in the face to more bad economic news. This suggests that the 700 level is important for both stocks and gold. $GOLD probably needs to move below 700 in order to $SPX to begin a sustained recovery.

Above from:
http://blogs.stockcharts.com/

Re: I feel managed

It appears that many are conditioned to look to government for help. It's natural but not really an historic perspective. For centuries governments have been blatantly oppressive. I think it is correct to expect more out of Democracies. The fact that a Bill Cara community exists is a tribute to better times. Bills voice is much like that heard during the days preceeding the revolution in many European countries a few centuries ago. I appreciate the perspective Bill and this group give. Change in a society is often a result of ground swelling from the bottom up. The last to be convinced is often the leadership. This current bunch may not get it while they are in power due to the various causes of blindness. My response is "Live your life as it is in your heart to live!" What more can you do?

For today....go rally go :-)

Re: Simple Change

"We are told to trust our educators, bankers and government officials. We are told they act in the public's best interest. That they are best suited to their purpose. We are told they are honest and ethical."

True. After all, they're the ones doing the (story)telling.

FAS- paring back @ 5.48...

still bullish, however.

M2M

Good call on the financials leading the market turn around Bill.
If the mark to market rules are modified today, along with the uptick rule put back into place, financials will take off.
A lot of if's, but the banks do run congress after all.
If oil stocks do follow the financials, that is welcome information to my ears. Now if I can just figure out the correlation so I can spot the trade.
Holding more C into Monday in hopes the M2M modification does materialize today. Just trading the price not the company.

I miss long term investing!

Re: Stocks That Aren't Coming Back

As a timing issue, I do agree. HSBC, I have stated, has serious issues and negotiations with the monetary authorities in the UK and China that need to be worked out. Until there is a massive new equity injection expected from prominent Chinese families, I don't expect HBC to rally much, and will not be trading the stock. But I still like the bank a lot, and will keep HBC in the Cara 100.

As or AMAT, I don't yet have a handle on the negatives, so it stays for now in the Cara 100. If anybody wants to send me the broker-dealer research pdf's, I'll start to review it with the team.

The CSCO and FSLR appear ok to me. We have been trading them.

RIMM

Long @ 40.19

Surprised

Bill, you if anyone here would have had a good look behind that curtain.I'm surprised that you're surprised. It was to be expected that there would be no new securities regulation act, there would be no real reform of the banks etc... for now. I share your sense of outrage. Not until there is a breakdown, a social dislocation in our society will you see any real change occur. Unemployment at 8% won't do it but unemployment at 15 to 20% might start to get things rolling. I'm surprised as to how little news there is about unemployment and the unemployed and it's social fallout, this is not a problem that is going to go away anytime soon. When people stop sitting in the middle of the road looking at the car wreck that there life and pension has become and start getting angry, that when we will see change. The politicans will start to listen then. I believe most people are still in shock, wait until they wake up. History teaches us that this has the potential to cause huge social unrest.

Re: Bill's Seeking Alpha Articles

This is a logistics issue, I think. Please send Seeking Alpha's David Jackson an e-mail and tell him that since SA is now picking up the DR on a daily basis, and markets are so volatile, yesterday's news is like last month's news.

Re: Cara 100 Ratings Changes

Yes, DNA is no longer a Cara 100 company because it is being folded into Roche. It is still a very high quality company, and so is Roche.

As to updating the Cara 100 in the menu link, I just haven't had time. I will get to it asap. Sorry.

Re: Not surprised, but more demoralized

For the record, I still support President Obama 100%. I still HOPE he lives up to his billing and that he brings CHANGE. I remain skeptical, but in my eyes he's the man. The world thinks highly of him and so if anybody can effect change, he's as likely as anybody to be the agent. All of the people that surround the President are there because they are part of powerful networks, so the President must deal with their agendas as well as try to sell his to them. It's obviously a struggle, but this man just might have sufficient IQ and oratory skills to make a difference. I look at him, not as the enemy, but as the leader. I wish I could say the same for Pelosi, Reid and Frank. That situation concerns me.

Re: Cara 100 Update

Bull Hunter
Just to add to your report I heard on BNN this a.m. that Barclay's commenced coverage on Goldcorp with an under weight and a target of $20 US/share.(approx $24 Cdn.)
Disclosure:long GG and not inclined to listen to Barclay's.

GG/Gold

Lot's of talk amongst technicians about gold's breakdown from the uptrend.
We'll see. The environment screams bullish, but the chart freezes you on the tracks.

$USD

It looks like the $usd is quietly starting to breakdown again like it did in Nov/08 when gold ran from $700 to $1000.
Volume on the miners seems very weak.

Re: StockCharts Gold Info

skater - "Last November $GOLD retreated back to 705 before rallying again in the face to more bad economic news. This suggests that the 700 level is important for both stocks and gold. $GOLD probably needs to move below 700 in order to $SPX to begin a sustained recovery."

Sounds like a great reason to short gold.

Re: Surprised-Real Unemployment numbers

Rafish- Mish has a link to an article where the real unemployment number (Table A-12 U6)appears to be around 14.8% now. The url is http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/ Sorry I don't know how to link using blogspot or to link it here.

Perhaps just a few more percent will do the job if there's not a real change by then.
S

EDIT- gees, it worked! :)

Re: GG/Gold

Gold today has recovered nicely from it's 10am whacking. Some days it recovers, and other days it just goes downhill from there. I'd be cautiously optimistic.

Plus, GG seems to have some decent volume this morning as well, and even with gold down GG looks pretty happy to me.

Congresswoman, Tied to Bank, Helped Seek Funds

Just a snippet of the tarp money trail.

It's not what you know.....it's who you know, just keep it quiet.
Yours Truly,
CONGRESS

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/13/us/politics/13wa...

Re: FAS- paring back @ 5.48/replacing @ 4.89

bullish

SP-750

Looks like the TA guys want a stop sign before entering the intersection.

HUM

Humana is up today. Some one on Yahoo message board says AET may buy HUM for $40. could not find any link. However option activity seems to be excessive.

Long Apr 25 calls.

Daily Show and Cramer

http://www.thedailyshow.com/

Jon Stewart deserves an Emmy for his show on Cramer and CNBC. To his credit, Cramer took his medicine. I wonder if Kudlow, Kernan or Bartiromo would have done the same, or just walked out. So, good on you Jim.

Every financial reporter and commentator in the world should be forced to watch this show repetitively until they get all the points that Jon made. Every teacher of young students should present this material for classroom study.

Do you remember how in early 2005 I railed against the CNBC take-out of big money players in the house building industry, and then in May that year when I wrote: "Bill Griffeth: books will be written (about this CNBC con)"?
http://tinyurl.com/bj5f9n
http://billcara.com/archives/2008/03/caras_comment...

CNBC TV has been a vampire for far too many years. Thankfully Jon Stewart has put a stake through their heart with his March 12, 2009, show. When do the advertisers pull out?

Bloomberg, Fox and BNN had better take note. When it comes to money, people don't want funny. Comic Jon Stewart made that point with the precision of a neurosurgeon.

Re: Daily Show and Cramer

Bill- Agreed 100%. But isn't it telling (meant in both senses of the word) that it had to be a 'Comic' on a 'Comedy Network' to put the stake through the heart? To me that just about says all that needs to be said.
S

More Suspicions on Gold/Silver ETF's

There is an increasing belief amongst investors that these vehicles are not completely backed with physical metal all of the time...

Barclays changed the words in the original prospectus from "Silver Bullion" to just "Silver," which reading as a lawyer would, begs the question Why? To me it implies there might be other silver investments that count but are not necessarily bullion.

But I never will consider it to be a primary silver investment. Knowing that the SLV is ALWAYS cash settled should raise an eyebrow or two.

As many others and I have pointed out numerous times, there are bar lists and the bars are likely real and do exist. During the interview with Jim Puplava, I gave one of numerous possibilities that could put bars into "inventory" and yet still have several claims against them. Again, the issue with them is whether the ETF really owns them free and clear or they are encumbered or otherwise compromised.

Another point is, the SLV can be "shorted" and this silver does not have to exist in inventory.

http://tinyurl.com/cngm54

Re: Daily Show and Cramer

salty - But isn't it telling (meant in both senses of the word) that it had to be a 'Comic' on a 'Comedy Network' to put the stake through the heart?

Back in the day, only the "fool" could speak truth in the hall of power. Anyone else would have something unfortunate happen to them. I"m guessing the same thing happens today, except it's just unemployment instead of a knife to the ribs.

I too was impressed with Cramer's guts for showing up and facing the music. Perhaps it will even lead to change - personally on the part of Cramer. Perhaps no more "In Cramer We Trust?" It will be interesting to watch.

Re: Daily Show and Cramer

Well, recall Salty that popular theater was the means of transmitting stories to the masses, from Shakespeare to Dickens. That they didn't read the financial columns of a newspaper didn't mean that they didn't get it. However, the shallowness of modern thought is somewhat disturbing. What real impact the daily show has on popular economic beliefs has yet to be ascertained. JMHO

UBS gold recommendation... potential upside to $2500/oz

UBS Investment Research on Gold dated March 10:

"Using a proprietary econometric model we have generated a probability cone for the future possible price path for gold. Using different environments for the level of inflation volatility, US dollar and absolute level of inflation we have determined that future returns on gold are likely to be positively asymmetric, with potential upside to US$2,500/oz.

Exposure to gold recommended
Our asset allocation team has moved gold to overweight from neutral. Given the
broad uncertainties in the current macro climate we believe that investors should look to gold given its historic tendency to act as a hedge against these risks.

Equity performance
Our assessment of equity performance from 1900 suggests that gold equities are
strong performers versus the market during periods of financial risk. During the 1929 crash, for example, Homestake Mining strongly outperformed the S&P..."

Re: An interesting counter

I saw an interesting video on the federal reserve and inflation.

Some people are becoming concerned:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oELV35omv-0

UBS gold recommendation

Bill if I recall correctly, you stated recently that you believed UBS was trying to throw a monkey wrench into any sort of market rebound to buy itself time. This gold recommendation - I'm guessing that plays into that whole strategy somehow? I don't hear any other major banks with a future gold price estimate of $2500/oz.

I'm - guessing, that banks like fiat money, and UBS is stepping a little bit outside the box talking about gold at $2500. I guess that's really a question!

The Forbes “Richest List” of world billionaires

The latest list (to Feb 13, 2009) shows a reduction of almost a third from 1125 to 793. Of those who remained or returned to the list, 656 saw their net worth fall, 53 held their position and 44 moved up the list. “It’s the first time since 2003 that we have lost billionaires, but we have never lost anywhere near this number” said Luisa Kroll, senior editor of Forbes.

Most people are suffering. I'm left wondering where the Madoff billions ended up.

Re: Simple Change

"We are told to trust our educators, bankers and government officials. We are told they act in the public's best interest. That they are best suited to their purpose. We are told they are honest and ethical."

Over the last decade or so, the country has been sold a story of Us vs. Them, the good guys and the bad guys, the American and the Un-American, French fries and freedom fries. The events of 9/11 sprung to life a downright nasty brand of nationalism that has bred seriously unintended consequences. Unfortunately, many were deceived and sold a false sense of unity - they were sold a spot on the "winning team". They were sold the idea that their team was looking out for their best interests when in fact they were the best interests of global banking conglomerates, private infrastructure companies, defense contractors, homebuilders, and inefficient industries like auto-manufacturing and airlines.

We need to disavow ourselves of this "With us or against us" attitude. The most patriotic thing we can do is to outright question our authority and make them accountable. We need to renew the idea that the ones who have our best interests in mind are first and foremost ourselves, our families, and our local communities.

The recent era of national prosperity has fostered the idea that government will always be there to catch us when we fall, to pick us up when we are down. Many have been robbed of the true reality that government can't be left to fix our problems while we watch and wait.

We need to look at the realities that exist in 2nd and 3rd world countries where the people rely on their governments for nothing whatsoever - where if people have basic necessities like clean water and electricity it is a privelege, not a God given right. If we as a country don't decide to take back our personal responsibility and willingness to hold our government accountable, we are doomed to a life of repeated dissapointment.

So whomever has taught us to "trust our educators, bankers and government officials" can go take a long walk off a short bridge as far as I am concerned. They do us all a disservice.

Re: UBS gold recommendation... potential upside to $2500/oz

Tho':
a) that is for about the 2014 time frame
b) the equivalent lower boundary of the probability interval is sub-$500 for the same time frame

They like the 160% upside vs (only) -50% downside.

Re: UBS gold recommendation

I would doubt the gold analysts in the research department are anywhere close to the powers to be that run the company or do the negotiations with the IRS, prosecutors, central bankers and finance ministers. I don't think they "leak" memos. No, I think they are pretty much free to call it as they see it regarding currencies, precious metals and individual stocks. In fact, in the case of UBS, I have a high regard for their analysts, and I told the global head of legal services there when he threatened to put my blog off the air for reproducing a few of their research reports. Executive management and the Board of Directors are the ones in trouble. They have badly misjudged the willingness of the people of the world to support their government incursions into the "private" offshore world to chase tax evaders.

Re: An interesting counter

ALOHA !!

After reading the entire article and not just the last part you posted it seems Mr. Rong wants desperately to return to the days of expanding money supply ... which is the days of rich banks and poor people.

I accept his view that MONEY=DEBT, but I do not accept his views that WEALTH=DEBT ... It rings much too close to the days of "company stores"! With DEBT you never actually own anything and nor are you "free".. If you have a car loan the car is yours to use for as long as you can pay the monthly loan payments. In terms of homes, most people will never actually pay off their loans, but instead attempt a game of DEBT musical chairs where they move from one home to the next in hopes they will eventually end up with a paid off McMansion due to their skillful use of "speculative equity arbitrage"! What many here in America actually end up doing for most of their life on Earth is "RENTING FROM BANKS"! Like the old company store of the past you are always indebted to the company for everything no matter how hard you worked.

Then there is this ... "Last year, Citigroup reported 32 billion in losses to investors using GAAP. Take a guess how much it reported to the IRS? It reported $10 billion in profit and it PAID $3.5 billion to government. NO idiot would pay money to IRS if it didn’t have to."

I would have to reverse that logic and ask, "HOW MANY CEO IDIOTS WOULD RATHER HAVE NO BONUS AND SEE THEIR NET WORTH AND THOSE OF THEIR SHAREHOLDERS PLUNGE AS THEIR STOCK PLUMMETS TO ZERO AND THEN RUN THE RISK OF NATIONALIZATION OR BANKRUPTCY?" NONE ... To any layman the obvious answer to that question is that there is a GAP between what GAAP calls profit and what the IRS calls profit! As a former employee of the IRS I can tell you ... there is the Real World where you and I live and breathe and then there is the IRS WORLD, where GESTAPO is not a dirty word! One would have to scrutinize the Citi tax return to see where the profit came from. Mr. Rong does not disclose where the profit originated. Perhaps the BAILOUT MONEY is considered a "taxable event" to Citi ... I know that if I got $1bil USD labeled as "BAILOUT" I would have to pay taxes on it! To show you how corrupt the IRS is ... A drug dealer has to pay taxes on profits from his drug sales. The common belief is that drug dealers will not report their earnings to the IRS because then the IRS would just turn them over to the DEA and FBI. Well, the IRS, under statute, cannot report illegal gains to law enforcement agencies, so drug dealers, pimps and the Mafia are all safe with the IRS! Of course probably 1% of drug dealers(if that) actually report earnings anyway! Yet how do most of them get prosecuted? TAX EVASION ... HA!!! Its laughable that the IRS would willingly partner with known murderers and felons just to get tax revenues. ELIMINATE THE US INCOME TAX! That would solve Citi's profit discrepancies that Mr. Rong is concerned with and we all might actually live a life of freedom instead of being slaves to our own government and the banks "company store"! Of course if we eliminated income taxes then a lot of Mr. Rong's would be unemployed!

About the only thing Mr. Rong and I agree on is the stupidity of politicians with their ever "shifting sands" of rules and regs and codes that do more harm than good. Whether FAS 157 is good or not is up for debate. It depends on which evil you want to live with ... the destruction of purchasing power that inflation brings or the joblessness and bankruptcy of deflation. Both roads eventually lead to the same end ... a monetary collapse! What fiat monetary system has never ended in collapse?

There is a BIG PICTURE ... its not all FAS 157 and profits!

Like LAO TZU says ... "The real art of governing consists, so far as possible, in doing nothing."

I predict the average Somalis will end up being more "asset rich" than the average American in the end. While bankruptcy is an epidemic for the average American it is unheard of in Somalia, since the absence of DEBT leaves little to default and few banks. I doubt that Somalia has suffered much from the SUBPRIME crisis ... but Somalia has suffered from civil war. Now that is a different story. Somehow I believe Mr. Rong would believe that DEBT would have mitigated civil war, yet we Americans may also be faced with civil war, except it won't be about black slaves this time, but instead ... indebted tax slaves!

Instead of just focusing on a symptom, like FAS 157, I would rather see a complete renovation of the entire system of AMERICAN EMPIRE, starting with the basis of this government and its financial system ... THE MONEY! As Lao Tzu correctly points out that a journey of a thousand miles begins with one step, so too does the journey to monetary freedom begin with one step. First the power structure has to be dismantled, which is the two party aristocracy(REPS & DEMS). That would be by "peaceful means", however if Americans fail to take that one step then CHANGE will come only it will not be so "peaceful" or "favorable"!

Its still THE MONEY STUPID!

Re: Jon Stewart interviews Jim Cramer

wow, that was a really good interview.

...too soon to write off Obama?

number2son,

Not in my view. Obama has no leadership experience. While he was a state legislator, he submitted very little legislation. As a US Senator he spent most of his time campaigning for the presidency. He did, however, manage to write two books about... (surprise?)...himself!

If we are lucky he may follow Carter's one term path.

Even Carter, one of our least successful Presidents, had been a governor. He and Obama have a vision of what America and Americans "should be." The fact that we may not want to be that does not matter — they think they can reshape us. Congress under Carter was and is able to take control of events due to the crisis mentality in the 1970s and it is very similar today.

Our real freedom is slipping away as more government dependency and control is shoved our way for more and more people.

Re: The Forbes “Richest List” of world billionaires

"Most people are suffering. I'm left wondering where the Madoff billions ended up."

I was under the impression that senior "clients" received unsustainably large gains, but don't know if those gains were realized... Other monies were likely funneled to regulators and the political elite. Media is commonly so vague as to be hardly useful, making reading between the lines and interpolation necessary.

Re: UBS gold recommendation... potential upside to $2500/oz

Thad, thanks for pointing that out. In a better world, UBS would have allowed me to reproduce their full report so that any interested party could determine in detail what the current thinking is of the staff at UBS, rather than having Bill Cara scrape a few lines from the exec summary. But no, they want to sell the notion that their superior knowledge should only be accessible to clients. On the other hand, Bill Cara is saying let's freely share our knowledge, and let only the financial services who actually show positive results for client accounts, based on skillful handling of transactions, be able to charge for it. That way, the industry would clean out the free-loaders, costs and hence fees would come down, and the clients would enjoy higher returns on their capital.

Re: Daily Show and Cramer

Good interview and I agree with the core argument. But isn't it a little hypocritical for Jon to criticize others for trying to take a serious subject or arena and make it funny or entertaining (even if it is a bit over the top)? To me, the problem with Cramer isn't the way or manner he conveys his message, it's the inconsistencies, dishonesty, and selfservingness (made up word) behind the message itself. Just my opinion.

Re: More Suspicions on Gold/Silver ETF's

ALOHA !!

Please-e-e-e ... in other words or the words I have been saying all along ... GLD and SLV have huge paper counterparty risk while real gold and silver have none!

DUH ... what would anyone, given the current bank fraud, expect from an HB&B managed GLD and SLV ETF?

There are a thousand reasons not to own GLD and SLV yet the problem is that 90% of those ETF values come from "deadman walking" investors who hand their mutual funds, pensions and 401ks blindly over to HB&B!

Conflict of interest anyone?

Re: UBS gold recommendation

Bill Cara - I would doubt the gold analysts in the research department are anywhere close to the powers to be that run the company...

Ok, good to know. It's really hard for me to determine which analyst reports coming from the industry have real content, and which reports are self-serving. I am guessing you can tell truth from fiction because of all your experience. Thanks for the clarification.

Re: Bill's Seeking Alpha Articles

Bill, I sent the e-mail C/O David Jackson
to contact-other@seekingalpha.com retrieved from http://seekingalpha.com/page/contact

Re: Daily Show and Cramer

Stewart was brilliant. In particular I liked how he summarized the debacle, "We (the people) capitalized your (Wall Street/Banks) adventure." I hope it is widely viewed and discussed. But I am a little concerned that government will use too blunt an instrument in response to the public's growing outcry. A small percentage of market participants created most of the problems. Between Rep. DeFazio's fatuous and destructive tax concept and the continuing failure of the SEC to actually enforce existing laws and reign in market manipulation, I'm beginning to worry that the wrong actions will be taken in the name of Change.

When it comes to communicating and educating, I know of no other finance/investment blogger as good as Bill (because he can really write). Beyond sending friends and family links to particularly good DRs or WIRs, what might we all do to help amplify his voice and get these illuminations into as many heads as possible?

K Depew Commentary

Re: ...too soon to write off Obama?

ALOHA !!

I have to say this about any President or Congressman ... The only expertise any of them have is that they are experts at "getting elected"!

After that is all downhill ... and monetary history supports that!

The only way out is to eliminate the "two party aristocracy", either that or riot!

ALL OUR BEST VOTING GOT US HERE!!

Re: ...too soon to write off Obama?

Grym

You offer a lot of critique of Obama's qualifications and his time spent in the Illinois legislature. We all have our views and that is our right. Rather than criticizing Obama for his past, which can't be changed now, I for one would like to hear what you believe your ideal president would be doing differently right now.

What is the best way repair our problems and at the same time decrease our dependency on the government? Isn't it a bit illogical to think that we can rely on government to help us decrease dependence on government? Isn't that a personal responsibility? Can we not, through educating each other and taking personal responsibility, decrease this dependence on our own?

Re: Daily Show and Cramer

Stewart said it himself during the interview - they may both "Sell snake oil" but only one of them advertises as such. In that regard I do not find him hypocritical.

Re: Daily Show and Cramer

i don't see how it is hypocritical. jon isn't offering up advice to people. he offers commentary. the gist of this is that people were sold the message that stocks are good for the long haul so that bankers could take the people's hard earned money to finance their ponzi schemes all for the bankers benefit. if this doesn't incite anger within you i don't know what will.

the credit default swap market is the largest ponzi scheme in the world's history and it is still being heavily manipulated. people are still not opening their eyes to this nonsense.

THE OLD SPLIT STRIKE

ALOHA !!

From AP ... "Madoff told the court that he falsely told investors he was employing a "split strike conversion strategy" ...

Ahhhh yes ... the old SPLIT STRIKE CONVERSION trick!!! DAMN-N-N ... I should have known!!! How could I be so stupid????? Its so damn obvious now!!!

You take a "strike" then you "split" it and when nobody is looking you "convert" it and then just call it a "strategy'! Ahhhh ... so simple!!! I've employed that same strategy at least a thousand times! I even used to use it back in the 1970s to pick up chics in discos!!! Man ... (sigh) ... Starring me in the face the whole time! Oppp ... 20/20 ... baby!!!

I would have loved to have heard the "investors" replies to Bernie when he told them he was employing the "split strike conversion strategy"! Did any of them say ... "What? What's that?"

How many here are neck deep in ETFs and don't even know what the mechanics of a "swap" is? How many ETF investors have ever done a derivatives swap?

Re: UBS gold recommendation... potential upside to $2500/oz

>In a better world, UBS would have allowed me to reproduce their full report

Of course, I'm just a peon, not a UBS subscriber -- I just googled to find a link to a posting elsewhere of that current report, and trusted that whoever had it posted was honoring their rights/agreement with UBS.

Link not repeated here so that it's those "elsewhere" folks who are in trouble if it wasn't supposed to be posted, not your (very helpful) site.

Re: UBS gold recommendation

Bill,

Do you think UBS is playing hardball with someone?

Re: Daily Show and Cramer

agreed and agreed. my only point was that the message that people were sold is why people like jim cramer deserve fault. the over-the-top way in which he and the rest of his network present it is just window dressing.

Re: Daily Show and Cramer

ALOHA !!

If revealing the TRUTH in this country requires 'window dressing" then DRESS AWAY BABY!!

Re: THE OLD SPLIT STRIKE

Geenspan used the split talk conversation strategy every time he went before congress. I can still see congress sitting there for 20 minutes at a time listening to Greenspan split talk, then each one of those congress members would scratch their heads and look around to see if anyone else understood what he just said. Not one ever visually let on they had no idea what the hell he just said. Greenspan was treated like a god, congressmen would curtsy, bow their heads, and kiss his ring finger with out a prompt cue.
Why isn't Greenspan joining Madoff in prison?
The ol' split talk conversation strategy....HA

london close

I think London closes at 1230 EST - as far as I can tell from timezones and the London SE website. Coincidentally, 12:20 EST was the low for the day in the $SPX so far, which is when london regular trading stopped. I only noticed because Bill mentioned something about that in his daily commentary and I thought it was interesting that it had such a visible effect today.

I tried out a trade based on it - bought the S&P at 744.50 and put a stop at 742. So far its a happy trade at S&P 751.25.

I feel like every day I come here, I get a new little nugget of trading wisdom - but I have to be paying attention. I suspect there are 50 nuggets to be found, but my brain only picks up the one.

Mortgage Rates

Good morning – The 10 year U.S. Treasury bond price is off to raise the yield to 2.95%, up from the close of 2.90% yesterday and 2.86% last Friday. The yield did briefly rise above 3.0% this week due to stock market gains moving funds away from the safe haven offered by Treasuries. In addition, yields are being pressured higher due to concerns voiced by China relative to the safety of U.S. government debt with large new issues of Treasuries taking place.
Refinances are taking up to 50 days to close due to the flood of applications and to secure a rate out to a 60 day lock degrades the rate up to .25% over the 30 day lock, which suggests floating a rate until approved and locking the “shorter term rate lock”. This also suggests purchases be set for about 25 days out from the contract date to obtain the most favorable rate and terms. Happy Trading

Re: ...too soon to write off Obama?

Billy? How do you get them to give up power? The unlimited ability to tax gives them that power? The breaking of the gold standard gives them that power? They take it out of you. Your income, your time, your property. They've already committed you to how many more trillions in debt? They will take what they have to take. The US would have to go basically the same way the Soviet Union did. The powerful took too much. Too much was given to those who don't do. And those that did, had enough.

You've got to remember that 1/2 the population has an IQ below average. At what level can you be smart enough to understand what's going on? Then, do you have the motivation and impetus to 1) figure it out, and 2)do anything about it. Those in power come from that upper half, and they control much of that lower half. TV, beer, and simple comforts. Lao Tzu referred to them as "The Herd". They are easily manipulated, as were we. As are we. Go Google "Hitler Quotations." That'll scare you.

Kaimu is right, empire's fall, and arguably, the US has been one. It is the natural progression to fall, and something or someone else will rise again. Unfortunately, revolution that Kaimu calls for is a very messy affair for individuals who take part, and perhaps their families. Even during our Revolutionary war 1/3 were for the king an 1/3 sat it out.

It's a mess. A real mess. Tocqueville is either laughing in his grave, saddened by the truth of his predictions.

I'm out and 100% cash. tally

I'm out and 100% cash.

tally for 2009 stands at about 2%. But given my evil broker's charges I should be up about 7%.

Got out cause I don't like the way the European markets closed.

et en plus...

c'est l'heure d'aperitif! (it's drinkies time!)

bon soiree a tous.

bearish divergence on 15 and 30 minutes

Did anyone else see that just moments ago? Do these count on intraday charts?
Sorry about the Questions, but learning TA.

Re: I'm out and 100% cash. tally

Good decision and good track record. 2009 was not very good for me. Still learning and paying market a lot for the lessons. Hopefully I will fine tune the art of stops at some point. So far stops stop me from wining trades yet expose me to limited losing.

Re: I'm out and 100% cash.

Don't tease me about happy hour on Friday. It's only 2:00 here.

Re: UBS gold recommendation

davefairtex,

I do think there is a line somewhere between the smallest and largest Wall Street firms where their analysts do get completely out of the loop with executive management. The analysts in the bigger firms tend to be the best, in my opinion, perhaps because the firm is able to hire and pay the best, perhaps it's the budgets, the responsiveness of the companies they cover, or whatever, but I don't as a rule knock the analysts of the big firms. There is an element of group-think in all these companies and across the industry, which you need to filter. Also, you need to follow an analyst for a while to determine their biases -- the ones we all have. Finally, I read these reports more for the data and its presentation than I do for the analysis. Occasionally, there is an analyst who offers an extreme opinion that I take note of, which is what I pointed out with UBS 2500 gold today.

Re: ...too soon to write off Obama?

ALOHA !!

Nemo ... Whats so messy about not voting DEMS and REPS into office any more? It is bulletless, painless and is just the stroke of a pen inside the comfort and privacy of a voting booth! That's the "one step" I refer to ...

Whether the votes are tallied without fraud is another story!

Re: ...too soon to write off Obama?

IBM fell in the 1980's. Good management brought it back.

Re: bearish divergence on 15 and 30 minutes

Which chart and what indicator? This is a ranging day. Bernanke is being interviewed on 60 minutes this weekend. I would bet that many traders are going to be flat by the close to avoid weekend surprises.

Re: UBS gold recommendation

Re: "Bill, Do you think UBS is playing hardball with someone?"

I think this is a company that does play hard-ball. I have seen it personally and I have letters from successful people who were fired there for dubious reasons. But, do I think they are playing hardball with their gold price opinion, that's impossible to say. Their biggest defender right now is the Swiss govt and I would think $2500 gold would mean a really strong Swiss Franc, which would hurt exports, fuel costs, and tourism. So, I don't know that the Swiss govt would like $2500 gold any time soon. Maybe that's the UBS way of making more demands on Switzerland for bail-out money? Not reading the daily Swiss media, or speaking frequently with analysts there, I couldn't say.

My biggest issue with Swiss banks is that like Jon Stewart said to Cramer about his CNBC role, they don't seem to want to be accountable now that (in their case) the IRS has coming knocking on their door. They knew the tax evasion game their clients were playing and they helped because it was a large part of their marketing program and reasons for their growth and profitability. The second issue is as a trader I expect the US authorities to continue to be their albatross, so I'd avoid the stock. The other side of the coin is that UBS and most Swiss banks are well managed at the operations level.

Re: bearish divergence on 15 and 30 minutes

SPY: RSI, full STO, ChiOsc, and MACD.

Swiss Bank Corp

I used to work for Swiss Bank (before it was purchased by UBS). I saw things going on there that I considered 'weird' at the time and have always wondered about it. For instance, they have the ability to melt down gold and make new bars, which seems to me like the ultimate form of money laundering. Is this normal? They also have a collection of paintings (there was a case about this a few years ago) that they never seem to talk about. It was fun working there (free beer!), but saw a lot of weird things.

As I understand the UBS-Swiss Bank merger, they took the UBS name because it was less tarnished by the nazi gold case, and kept the Swiss Bank "keys" logo. Had the impression that Swiss Bank was running things but basically re-branded themselves as UBS. Have not really kept up with them after leaving.

Check out Ron Pauls big time support by other senators

http://www.voteronpaul.com/newsDetail.php?Ron-Paul...

I have often wondered if the gold is there and what the FED is doing with our money.

I am contacting my reps, etc, and this blog reaches many others, a multiplier effect if you will. Here is a chance to make a difference.

Re: bearish divergence on 15 and 30 minutes

SPY: Similar to the FAS chart today. Opening range, then attempted breakout from the range; failure on the breakout falling back into the range; then breaking the opening support level down to the noon-ish low; and now back up into the same area as the opening range...basically a choppy range day. yuk!

Re: ...too soon to write off Obama?

Nemo

I don't have all the answers, but a remedy we can each employ is to simplify our lives - live outside of this system. While income tax is virtually inescapable - there are other ways we can detach these liabilities. I for one own no property and never have (not to say I never will) - I don't want to be subject to the taxes.

I also live a very simple life and try to consume necessities to reduce the amount of sales taxes I am subject to. I shop my local farmers market - directly from producers when possible. I do what I can to step out of the system - to starve the system of tax dollars from my pocket.

Regarding the gold standard - we are all free to purchase gold and silver or any other goods as we please. If these dollars are going to be so worthless then why does everyone seem to want them so darn badly? Forgive me for my lack of knowledge but are there other currencies tied to the gold standard?

As for those with below standard IQ's who are willing to sit by and accept the momentary comforts of television and booze, I am sorry, but I feel very little sympathy. What can I do about that besides living a moral and ethical life and educating my friends and family about what I see going on? I have been all over the world and I can tell you this - there are hard-working people everywhere that dream about living in this country and affording the luxuries of this society.

If Americans have so much hubris that they believe that the magic hand will always be there to protect them, then we will deserve the eventual outcome.

Apolgies in advance for those whom I rub the wrong way.

Re: bearish divergence on 15 and 30 minutes

5300- What do you make of USD's chart?!

Re: ...too soon to write off Obama?

"I for one own no property and never have (not to say I never will) - I don't want to be subject to the taxes."

I'm with you on the property ownership issue. I see political and contract law risk in owning US real estate. I consider the US to be an outlaw government, and therefore they are capable of just about anything, including raising taxes on land to pay for their terrorism campaigns (not anti-terrorism...terrorism).

Property tax means that your property is ALWAYS at risk of seizure even if you have no mortgage. That would not be a problem in a healthy country/government, but government actions over the last 8 years shows me that the US is moving towards decline (decline into what I'm not sure). Cheney was running an assassination program out of his office for most of his 8 year nightmare, approved of secret prisons, torture, and many other things, without even a peep of complaint from their fellow republifascists, and I just don't like the trends I'm seeing. I am slowing divesting myself of the US. Wish I could just completely leave the country, but have older parents here to take care of.

trading FAS

In today's Friday comments, Bill expressed the same feeling I had yesterday when selling FAS, when he spoke about the financial stocks:

"Are these stocks going to double from the bottom? Absolutely! Are they going to do it in one week? Probably not. ... We pared our XLF position on the close yesterday with expectations the financials are due for a mild pullback."

Even though FAS is flat today, I am not buying it yet. The higher it goes, the bigger in absolute terms will be the inevitable 20% decline on some day. If that decline happens on Monday, then it will bring FAS right back to $4, at which point I'll start scaling in again. And if FAS keeps rallying until $8, then pulls back to $6 and then rallies to $10, then I won't be too upset either, since in that case the 20 contracts of April $5 puts I sold on FAS will expire worthless and I'll pocket $3400 I got for selling these puts. These puts constitute my one-month "buy-and-hold" core position in FAS. I'll be buying additional shares only on pullbacks of 20% or more and will be selling them once FAS breaks out to new highs.

bought more UXG

Looks like the gold price action has tricked me. After pulling back to $900, then bouncing to $940 and then falling to under $900, I thought that the gold rally was over for some time. Instead, gold bounced off the $900 level again and started moving up. So now we have a double bottom at $900, and the price action looks bullish once again. So I just bought 1000 shares of UXG at $1.88. I'll be adding a little of gold miners every day now if gold stays above $920.

Re: ...too soon to write off Obama?

dow5300 - Wish I could just completely leave the country, but have older parents here to take care of...

And here in Thailand, there are people lining up for the opportunity to move to the US. I know, everyone always says that, but somehow its much more impactful when you repeatedly encouter people who, when they hear you are from the US, they say something like "I want to go there someday" as if it were truly The Promised Land. To be a foreigner in Thailand means, you are automatically quite wealthy.

We've just gone and become a little bit lazy of late. Hopefully now the pendulum will swing back, and we will rediscover what made us great. Perhaps the gold standard? I'm sure it won't be that simple.

Re: Mortgage Rates

Luggie - I read somewhere that the Fed had stated they might begin Treasury purchases when the 10yr rate hits 3.5%. Have you seen this information?

Looks like a small rally in tech

with 30 min to go.

Re: FAS- paring back @ 5.48/replacing @ 4.89/off @ 5.27

it was a good week...keeping it that way.

Re: bearish divergence on 15 and 30 minutes

"Bernanke is being interviewed on 60 minutes this weekend. I would bet that many traders are going to be flat by the close to avoid weekend surprises."

Funny, I was anticipating he might reiterate and expound.

Doug Kass - Defending Cramer

Here is an article that famous short seller Doug Kass (and writer for the Street.com) wrote defending Jim Cramer after the Barron's article on Cramer. I thought it might add another side to the Cramer discussion on this board.

Mark
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In the past, I have come to the defense of Jim Cramer against a host of media attacks. I do this not because I write for TheStreet.com -- I view myself as an independent person who speaks his mind regardless of the consequences -- rather I have defended Jim because I strongly believe that he provides a value-added contribution to the individual investor in navigating an increasingly difficult investment terrain.

Jim does this not only on CNBC's "Mad Money" but, importantly, in the publication of his books, Jim Cramer's Mad Money: Watch TV, Get Rich, Jim Cramer's Stay Mad for Life: Get Rich, Stay Rich (Make Your Kids Even Richer) and Jim Cramer's Real Money: Sane Investing in an Insane World, which provide more pensive analytical tools and recommendations in approaching one's investment portfolio.

Bullish media and Wall Street analyst hype are legendary and, to some degree, represent the proximate cause for many investment miscues on the part of individual investors whom have historically behaved in a Pavlovian fashion in their reaction to perma-bullish Pablum, so, when someone like Jim Cramer provides a more thorough and objective educational outline to navigating the market, it should be welcomed by the media, not criticized.

Over the weekend, Barron's published the story, "Cramer's Star Outshines His Stock Picks."

The thrust of the article is that "Jim Cramer's celebrity is bigger than ever" but the "stock picks featured on 'Mad Money' don't live up to the host's hype." The Barron's article is critical of his opinions on an enormous number of stocks and suggests that "in the days leading up to their mention on 'Mad Money,' stocks start to move in the direction of his recommendation. Post-mention, they revert to their previous trend, short-changing investors." The piece goes on to suggest that Jim's staff is "heavy-footed in their research" and the subject matter of many shows appear to be leaked because of that process.

As I have defended Jim Cramer from attacks by the media in the past, I will do so again today, hopefully as an impartial and independent observer.

My basic point has been that, above any other media pundit, Jim provides a value-added educational experience for the average individual investor.

He does this in several ways:

* He goes belly-to-belly with company managements on "Mad Money." He typically doesn't serve up the easy pitch but rather usually goes to the root of the valuation/fundamental controversy.

* His lightning rounds give his quick and abridged impression of a stock's outlook.

* He develops investment themes and strategies that are easily understood and developed reasonably well on "Mad Money" and in his books.

* Most important, on "Mad Money" he provides an educational handbook on how to analyze a company/sector, with a focus on the development of the principal determinants of future stock market behavior.

Jim qualifies almost every investment recommendation with the caveat that investors should not take, prima facie, his word on a stock. He says that every investor has an obligation to do his own homework.

Jim qualifies almost every investment recommendation with another caveat: Don't buy on the spike or strength following his mention. Wait until things calm down, he says.

As to potential leaks, that is an occupational hazard if one is going to carefully research an idea and cover multiple sources. A more comprehensive research approach by "Mad Money" staff is far more preferable than superficial preparation. The same phenomenon occurs in Barron's, the source of this weekend's criticism, as trading desks often "hear" about rumors of Barron's cover stories. Most are specious, but now and again, they are accurate.

The Barron's article analyzes "650-odd" Cramer recommendations and concludes that "his bullish picks underperformed the S&P by about 3.5 percentage points over the 45 trading days after each show."

To that, my response is, So what? Not only is the statistical error broad vis-à-vis the underperformance and the degree of underperformance modest within the context of the volume of recommendations but this analysis presumes a buy/hold strategy, which, particularly in today's volatile times, is plain silly and not the intention that Jim necessarily recommends.

Finally, many of Jim's investment recommendations are indeed nuanced and qualified. Treating every investment recommendation as the same and compiling an investment performance is, to some degree, comparing apples to oranges.

In my final analysis, individual investors are better served listening to Jim Cramer, both with regard to his recommendations and his methodology, than any other business commentator extant. His body of investment knowledge is remarkably broad and lacks the superficiality of most of his brethren.

Jim is an investment populist who, unlike many in my hedge fund cabal, has forsaken that financial rainbow for a greater cause -- namely, helping out the individual investor.

Jim is an easy target, but from my perch, he should not be vilified; he should be admired.

Re: Doug Kass - Defending Cramer

Doug Kass needs to be knocked form the same perch Cramer is on. How can he honestly say Cramer is a positive factor in the investment media? Another shill serves up more garbage.
I should add maybe Kass likes Cramer so much because he has a terrific set up to short Cramer's 'picks'.

Re: Doug Kass - Defending Cramer

"Jim is an investment populist" --Kass

Wow, it takes a lot of nerve to make that claim. Cramer has certainly positioned himself to APPEAR to be a populist, but get real; Harvard undergrad, J.D. from Harvard Law, trained at Goldman Sachs, and is a close personal friend of Eliot Spitzer. Just as Timothy Geithner is and Henry Paulson was at Treasury in order to look after the interests of Goldman Sachs, Cramer's function is to do the same, and to keep the general public interested in the stock market so they can continue to be fleeced by Wall Street. Cramers technique is to shotgun so many opinions out there on both sides of the market that he can never be proven wrong. Watching Cramer for anything other than comic relief is unwise.

Re: Doug Kass - Defending Cramer

3.5% over 45 days is about 19% annualized.
Sounds good to me.

Re: Doug Kass - Defending Cramer

I do not have an opinion on his qualifications. Further along the path...have tried out his action alerts, which cost me much money.

He uses, in my opinion, this alert service to pump and dump. I also noticed he makes convenient mistakes and repeats inconsistant advice. If you want to perform better than Jim Cramer, grab yourself some darts!

Re: Daily Show and Cramer- On fools and fleas

swissrobinson and davefairtex:

Ah yes, the "fool". Thanks for reminding me of how they were perceived in times past. But has anything changed there?

Apropos of the discussion, I came across this quote on another site I read:

"You just need to be a flea against injustice. Enough committed fleas biting strategically can make even the biggest dog uncomfortable and transform even the biggest nation."

- Marian Wright Edelman

Think I'll get the t-shirt:"Fool and Flea" :)

...too soon to write off Obama?

BillySundance,

The president is one-third of our system of checks and balances. With that in mind, I believe a president should not abdicate his power to the legislature or the supreme court.

In the current dire set of circumstances brought on by greedy bankers, lazy legislators and AWOL rating agencies I would like to see an attempt to remove the perpetrators.

I believe the major problem goes beyond "fixing" the credit system — what needs fixing is the credibility of our government and financial system. A strong leader if he had the people's interest at heart would not allow this to go unchallenged.

Since I consider myself to be truly conservative my ideal is probably impossible to attain. There is so little left to conserve.

I want nothing from the government personally. Had I been allowed to invest my money instead of paying the "self-employment tax" beginning at age 19, I would be far better to survive my old age.

Nearly every administration in my lifetime, Republican or Democrat, has diminished our freedoms. When not simply raising taxes to fund some utopian socialist vision, they have been intruding into our personal behavior "for our own good" with seat belts, protective lids, bicycle helmets, removal of teeter-totters and swings, restricting foods, there seems to be no end to the involvement. There is a possibility they will soon decide how much and what medical care we will receive.

People can renegotiate their own mortgages (if they were within reality when they signed on). By taking on personal responsibility we can keep government at least somewhat at bay.

It doesn't require a lawyer for many issues, just a willingness to push back.

I have protested my real estate taxes twice and won. I have threatened a lawsuit against a company (former client) who used my artwork without paying for permission — again I won. I have fired my insurance agent when he didn't defend me in an accident caused totally by the other party and won.

You can fight city hall, but my attempts to get anything from upper levels of government have been nearly a complete zero. As individuals we have no clout. I have been harassed by the IRS three times and proven them wrong, but it did cost me a lot of time and some money.

The government in my experience has not been a public servant — more like a public nuisance!

Nemo asked, "How do you get them to give up power?" I wish I knew a way. It would take far more than simply voting out the bad apples. We need to change the whole congressional/lobbying system and be able to control their pay and benefits. They are supposed to work for us, but they have the control and they are not going to give it up.

Kass

Dang, now I have to ignore Doug too. That's too bad.
As Mom always said, "You are known by the company you keep."

Re: Doug Kass - Defending Cramer

alberio
Thats -3.5% he underperformed on his bullish calls to the tune of 3.5% BELOW the S&P over 45 days after the pick was made.

Re: Doug Kass - Defending Cramer

Trash

Re: Doug Kass - Defending Cramer

I know that, trade it accordingly.

Thoughts are clouded. may stop trading until after ctab bahamas

With the financials rallying, counter intuitive to the business climate i see in my daily dealings with clients, and just my own fatigue, i may just stop trading and sit in cash, until after ctab bahamas.

Re: ...too soon to write off Obama?

Kaimu,

I think all your opinions are valid...no less than the Founding Fathers called for if the times dictate. I hear your call to change votes, but that is one well oiled(?) machine. I'd be happy to vote for someone else...Massachusetts, unfortunately, is socialist/communist.

yvrapx: Have you ever heard

yvrapx: Have you ever heard the name Doug Kass before right now? "Shill" is not exactly the term I would use.

I find it beyond belief that people actually watch Cramer's show and believe that is all there is to Cramer. It is like watching wrestling and believing everything you see and comparing it to Ultimate Fighting (or whatever it's called). The first is pure entertainment and most sane people do not take it seriously. The show "Mad Money" fits the same category. It is entertainment used to get people interested in the stock market. If you want to know what Cramer is really thinking, you should plunk down your $200 and get a realmoney.com subscription. I've only watched Mad Money a few times as I can't stand the theatrics but I have been a subscriber to realmoney.com for years. I appreciate the fact that Jim Cramer has "been there and done that" and has been very successful. Just like when Bill opens his mouth, we know he has "been there and done that" whether it is down a mine shaft or "in the room" when deals are being done.

I don't really have any need to defend Jim Cramer. He's a big boy and had the balls to go on the show to defend himself. It just seems he is an easy target right now for those looking for a scapegoat and using "herd mentality".

Jon Stewart goes head to head against Cramer

Re: Doug Kass - Defending Cramer

"I know that, trade it accordingly."

Defending under performance without acknowledging under performance sounds suspiciously devious. Or should I say especially devious?

Next I presume how we'll hear about how Cramers picks are comprehensive and Bernanke is credible.

Don Coxe Conference Call: Friday 13th

http://events.startcast.com/events6/122/C0018/Even...

Discusses re-evaluation of fundamental risk as it relates to gold, Dow bluechips, Swiss policy change, scale of Obama interventions, "Geithner looking like a scared rabbit," risk of cash, more gigantic losses of the GSEs, Polosi 2nd stimulus and excuse to restructure American economy.

Still a gold, base metals, and commodity bull. Says Bernanke has credibility and Gold ETFs are a buy?! Regional banks are stable? Buy Loonies and Canadian assets including banks.

Re: Doug Kass - Defending Cramer

Haven't commented here before although I've followed this blog from '05 or so (recall I became aware of billcara.com about the same time I started watching Cramer's show). Have mixed feelings re. Cramer (BAM was not a particularly good recommendation at the time). Although the mistake was mine...to buy or to sell is an individual call.

Would especially like to thank Bill & 2nd & others here who have taught much!!!

Kyle

Mortgage Rates

Hi C.P.- Only thing I have noted recently on the Fed's intervention on rates is as follows from Monday 3/9/09 ---- One measure that was suggested by the Fed to lower rates has been taken off the table for the time being following these Fed comments ----“At this point in time the Fed has judged that buying long-term Treasuries is not the most efficient means of easing financial conditions”. For the best borrowers the spread on the 10 year yield to mortgage rate is approximately 2.2% over the yield --- with higher loan to values, coupled with lowered credit scores sending that number up quite a bit. Some new talk of Fannie "Streamline Finances" which may be lower doc loans that will assist those being slightly underwater or otherwise challenged on existing loans - we'll hear a lot more about this as the new regime takes it to the huddled masses. Happy Trading

So what is the return?

Alright, you don't have to defend Cramer, but it would be interesting to hear how you are doing with your Real money subscription in 2008 and 2009.
We already know there is more to Cramer, we saw it on the tape last night when he was talking about breaking the law. He said it so much better than I could.

Re: I feel managed

Of course if you turn turn off the news, you are then no longer tied to informational manipulation...

Ah the dangers of trading... You need information to base fair trade upon..

But what happens when no information is fair or can be trusted?

It's a delicate dance now a days to retain one's own self while so much information is so heavily design to manage your emotions and actions...

You are so right Casey!

Friday...I can feel it in my shoulders.....time to get outside and find balance. I already had a close encounter with a Douglas Squirrel in the orchard http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Douglas_Squirrel and he was very helpful! Sunny but a hair chilly here in the Great Northwest.
Time for a nice walk. That should remove the market cobwebs.

Then it's back to work!
I'm hoping to get started setting up my CTAB acct this weekend.

Here it comes...

ttp://cbs2chicago.com/politics/income.tax.hike.2.958201.html

Re: ...too soon to write off Obama?

Grym

Thanks for your response and I appreciate your views. The more of us that stand up and speak our mind - the better off we all will be. For now we do what we can to live outside the system and rely first and foremost on ourselves, family, and friends.

Have a good weekend.

Re: ...too soon to write off Obama?

Part of the problem is too many people

think they can think their way out of this problem

You ask

At what level can you be smart enough to understand what's going on?

I think we reached a point of saturation with so much misleading information, that without inside information for 99.999% of population it isn't possible to sort it out reliably.

Even with inside information I suspect it's difficult to keep it all clear anymore.

Quite simply.. It's possible to live outside the herd... but too many are now too comfortable being part of the herd to leave it.

It's possible to live to personal heart, local community... not to drop out, but to just live well and follow the whims of what falls out as it may. Not judging what will be for high ground... but being flexible enough to shift as required and quickly making patient choices as the moment arise.

In the end the true secret how to make that happen is awareness...

Awareness doesn't mean sorting out truth from fiction... It means taking in the circumstances you are locally within and verify (not relying on false information feeds designed to confuse awareness) and acting accordingly from that perspective.

We are in the time of greatest potential of any we are likely to live within, but potential requires awareness to channel properly otherwise one is left chasing false dreams.

This makes it the best of times to practice meditation :)

No global one size fit answer exists since I suspect answers truly become personal in nature, since the only answer to best fit are those that do come our center of being... that's 100% personal until a new system of reputation evolves that can be validated to base our information upon.

I would like to hear Vadym's tales from USSR and trust , information sources and how it compares to these times actually.

I don't think we have a historical counter point to compare to... since the bad and good information is so tightly intertwined now. The best lie is one based on 95% truth.... and right now its so well weaved... in countless variations... I know I am impressed by it all. Saddened yes, but it's amazing to witness first hand.

SAY

MUMBAI: IBM Global Services, one of the world’s largest IT services firms, Fidelity Investments and buyout giant KKR are among the multinationals

That has shown interest in buying Satyam Computer Services, people close to the development said.
IBM registered its interest through a law firm representing it. The name of the law firm could not be ascertained. PE firms as well as global IT majors had submitted expressions of interest (EoIs) for Satyam. With this, the total number of contenders for Satyam has gone up to at least eight. The entry of Fidelity Investments as a potential buyer also provides an interesting twist to the bid story. After L&T, which holds nearly 12% in Satyam, Fidelity is the second-largest single shareholder with over 10% stake in Satyam. It is possible that Fidelity could be treated on par with PE firms being a financial investor

Re: Doug Kass - Defending Cramer

I might be misunderstanding something here, I'm not trying to defend anything.
My initial thought was simply that if you think or "know" something is going to under or over perform something else then you can do a pair trade.
In this case I think the trade is shorting Cramers picks with equal dollar amounts of index long. Forgetting comm. and slippage I think that captures the spread over a period of time. Correct or no?

Thanks for WWW

It was a technical paper with the simple title "Information Management: A Proposal," written by a researcher at a European physics laboratory and filled with esoteric terms like hypertext and browser.

It was also the birth certificate of the World Wide Web, a technology that's generated immense new wealth and transformed the ways we work, learn, and amuse ourselves.

Twenty years ago this month, Tim Berners-Lee, then a researcher at Conseil Européen pour la Recherche Nucléaire, or CERN, in Switzerland, handed in his proposal for a new kind of computer network. That paper and the technology it envisioned would spawn such giant enterprises as Google, Facebook, MySpace, Yahoo, Amazon, and eBay. At the same time, the Web "has replaced countless other services and resources," said Ted Schadler, an Internet analyst at Forrester Research in Cambridge. Newspaper circulation dwindled as readers turned to the Web instead; travel agents shut down as tourists book their trips online. And millions of us started to watch our favorite shows on computers instead of TV sets.

Summers Bullish

From his speech at the Brookings Institution today:

"One striking statistic suggests the magnitude of the opportunity that is before us in restoring our economy to its potential. Earlier this week, the Dow Jones Industrial Average, adjusting for inflation according to the standard Consumer Price Index, was at the same level as it was in 1966, ... While there could be many ways to question this calculation, that the market would be at essentially the same real level as it was in 1966 when there were no PCs, no internet, no flexible manufacturing, no software industry, and when our workforce was half and our net capital stock was a third of what it is today, may be regarded by some as the sale of the century. For policy-makers, it suggests the magnitude of the gains from restoring sustained economic growth."

Audio speech: http://www.cspan.org/Watch/watch.aspx?MediaId=HP-R...
Transcript: http://www.cspan.org/pdf/summerstranscript.pdf

Bill

Long week, may I suggest a G & T. I think you, and every one else here deserves one of their choice.

Re: Doug Kass - Defending Cramer

"I might be misunderstanding something here, I'm not trying to defend anything. In this case I think the trade is shorting Cramers picks with equal dollar amounts of index long. Forgetting comm. and slippage I think that captures the spread over a period of time. Correct or no?

Good, because Cramer's ethics are indefensible from my perspective. You are certainly allowed to trade based upon what he does or doesn't say, that's your prerogative. I for one don't care for him because I've discovered he's conflicted and I'll say so up front and center. BTW, I'm very thankful Stewart is working to expose these conflicted persons and hope to see more of the same, there simply isn't room for this kind of activity in the world I want.

Re: Summers Bullish/1966?

"Earlier this week, the Dow Jones Industrial Average, adjusting for inflation according to the standard Consumer Price Index, was at the same level as it was in 1966.."

Mackinaw- It's a double-edged sword for Summers to go public with that kind of statement. He's highlighting the opportunity. On the other hand, there are more than a few investors who cashed out recently thinking they would cap their losses at the 1997 level that made the headlines recently. A back of the envelope adjustment for inflation (using 4% as an average) takes you back to 1986. Summers is obviously using actual data. To be out there saying '1966' is bound to rile anyone already upset over 1997 or 1986. That's over 40 years of gains.

Re: Thanks for WWW

Thanks vinod, and to think I believed Al Gore created the internet...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LpxtKcLSFWw

Re: Summers Bullish/1966?

And of course fund salesmen are not going to be printing 8.5"x11" glossies showing the DJIA adjusted for the kind of inflation numbers Summers is using. How nice does DJIA 14000 look adjusted for inflation?

Obama at the Economic Roundtable

Hot Damn! This guy can give a speech:

http://www.cspan.org/Watch/watch.aspx?ProgramId=HP...

Re: ...too soon to write off Obama?

Casey - Most often the best solution is to eliminate the noise and simplify our environment. Truth and possibility reveals itself to us when our minds are most quiet and focused.

Problems are only more complicated because of fancy words and arcane ways of describing the simple. But when we break them down to simple terms, its not that hard to see the truth.

I think Bill promotes this same philosophy to trading regarding turning down the noise and simplifying. Why not apply it to everything else?

Turn off Obama, Pelosi, Dodd, or Frank, CNBC, CNN, FOX, etc . . . Take away the noise and simplify. They are noise meant to keep us distracted from the truth.

Re: ...too soon to write off Obama?

I beg to differ, Bert. I think it's Vadym, here, who most regularly points out big breaking "news" items that affect price movements. Bill, too, has said that we - the small investor - are at a huge disadvantage in this game. They have all the information and make all the big moves that start the trends. Myself, I find it hugely advantageous to listen carefully to what they are saying, not so much for what they say, but often what they don't say. More recently, it is more what they do say that is driving things: Energy independence, education, and health-care. It's pretty consistent, and has had immediate impact on the markets. We just have to decipher it.

Re: Doug Kass - Defending Cramer

Chickenpookie, we're on the same page.
My comment was a trading comment only, full stop.

I didn't bother addressing the social equity issue since it had already been adequately covered and I agreed with most of it. If I had commented, I would put Bill in the unteneable position of making me his first full fledged permanent removal case :)
Quite frankly, the whole system (including Cramer) has made me completely cynical of just about everything and I too hope that the Stewart piece might help.

Unfortunately for all of us, I think real change will only come if things get worse and who wants to hope for that? If things were to get better too quickly then people will continue to look the other way again. Nice dilemma.

And finally, no, I won't be trading the opposite side of his picks. Why? Because then I would have to actually watch him, and life is too short for that. Cheers.

Re: ...too soon to write off Obama?

:) you get what I am saying

but truth often gets twisted to surprising additional directions.

I have to stress the word awareness. How we connect into and use awareness is a bit more crazy than what one would think.

It's not that the noise is bad, we can even use false truth, lies and noise to help us navigate the times

The crayfish shows us how to use noise to an advantage

http://tinyurl.com/dfj6bz

What the paper translates to say is: a Crayfish actually hears best in the noisy brook and not a calm pond. Since it uses the noise as amplifier (not quite right but close enough).

The problem is we take that noise to heart, and push it too far. It's why I highly stress the answers are personal. For many...turning off the noise is the best solution as it allows them to hear their heart and then better act from their personal center. Less likely to make bigger mistakes.

However, a few like Bill or Vadym are able to sort thru that noise without losing their center and use it to fine tune their knowledge of local condition since as they expanded their "local" area with their own personal awareness practices.

Bill writes about this in his book to some degree how he trained himself to hear the beat of the market place. When I read his book I smiled since I enjoyed his images of how he worked towards expanding his awareness.

IN general I stress to friends here, Awareness isn't "truth"... it's the ability to accept a larger picture of "reality" and match it to how you connect to your surroundings.

Countless practices on how to fine tune that awareness exist, the trick is finding the practices which work well for you :)

The other side of the coin is, since so many "rules" seem to be broken right now as potential is being released, as the game shifts... many people will find their old practices may not work at the moment... which is a another good reason to slow down to re-sync back to heart for a bit as it all does shift about.

Thanks for the noise analogy it brought back mind the crayfish for me and I think that is a great analogy for how to sort thru the media noise right now.

"Suburbia R.I.P."

http://tinyurl.com/by84n3

"The suburb has been a costly experiment. Thirty-five percent of the nation's wealth has been invested in building a drivable suburban landscape, according to Christopher Leinberger, an urban planning professor at the University of Michigan and visiting fellow at the Brookings Institution. James Howard Kunstler, author of "The Geography of Nowhere," has been saying for years that we can no longer afford suburbs. "If Americans think they've been grifted by Goldman Sachs and Bernie Madoff, wait until they find out what a swindle the so-called 'American Dream' of suburban life turns out to be," he wrote on his blog this week.

"So what's to become of all those leafy subdivisions with their Palladian detailing and tasteful signage? Already low or middle-income families priced out of cities and better neighborhoods are moving into McMansions divided for multi-family use. Alison Arieff, who blogs for The New York Times, visited one such tract mansion that was split into four units, or "quartets," each with its own entrance, which is not unlike what happened to many stately homes in the 1930s. The difference, of course, is that the 1930s homes held up because they were made with solid materials, and today's spec homes are all hollow doors, plastic columns and faux stone facades."

Re: yvrapx: Have you ever heard

bobj
I have heard of Kass before now and by wading into Cramer's defense, lost what little respect I had for him in the first place.

Oogle !

The way things are going, Google should remove the first letter from their name!

If you don't want to be "oogled" by them, or the other "cookie monsters", I'm told "opting out" is possible:

http://www.popsci.com/gear-amp-gadgets/article/200...

Re: Oogle !

download ccleaner Jock.

You can choose to have it clean the computer - including your browser - when you start up.

Also makes for a good registry cleaner. Helps keep windows from slowing down.

Re: Oogle !

thnks, Swiss. I'll do that ...

Re: ...too soon to write off Obama?

casey said - so many "rules" seem to be broken right now as potential is being released, as the game shifts... many people will find their old practices may not work at the moment

Boy you are not kidding. Rules that have shifted for me:
* insolvent banks will be liquidated by the FDIC
* housing prices always go up. wow that one has some teeth in it.
* china is "decoupled" from the west
* oil production increases every year
* our children will be "better off" than we are now

practices that have stopped working
* buy and hold investment
* modern portfolio theory
* debt used to be good. now it's bad. boy that one changed quickly.

I'm sure everyone here can name rules that have changed for them in the past 5-6 months.

gold head & shoulders?

So looking at the GLD daily chart, does anyone else think there may be a head & shoulders pattern developing? I'm looking not only at the price pattern but also at the recent lower volume on the up moves vs. high volume in mid Februrary.

GDX shows a similar recent dropoff in up volume.

Perhaps its just gold lagging behind oil & base metals, like Bill says, but I look at the pattern and feel some concern...

Re: gold head & shoulders?

gld may be testing the 1980 high,gold has not tested it yet for some reason so perhaps a drop/test to 875 for gold is coming.Usd has not hit 90 yet which is 38% fib of the entire drop from 2001, that meshes fwiw

Gld may be a large ihs forming?

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Re: "Suburbia R.I.P."

ALOHA !!

James Kunstler ... SUBURBIA ...

This is not news to me ... but you left off the real link ... Mr. Kunstler has more detailed views on farming, oil and the supply chain that links this complex "globalization" that I have been saying will eventually fail due to scale and the human condition! You can already see it crumbling when China announces it is no longer exporting grains since China has decided that food is a much more valuable commodity than a Federal Reserve Note(IOU)! The "real wealth"(land, food, water, gold, base metals) assets will always trump "false wealth"(COMEX, NYMEX, DOW, US Debt, US Dollar, CDS and the banks that horde them in unlimited expanding quantities)liabilities.

Link: http://jameshowardkunstler.typepad.com/

For me, the coming "reality" for America is all based on FIAT MONEY! At some point in time I think the vast majority of Americans will realize that it was not the AMERICAN DREAM that screwed us, but the impotent US CONgress of 1912/1913 who sold us out to the US FED for a hand full of beans, like Jack, in Jack In The Beanstalk! There are parallels!

The design of America's suburbia and the financing of suburbia via the oft oversold "rags to riches" story of the American Dream(Flip This House mentality)is a one-two punch, a double-barrel shotgun blast to every American's gut! While short-term trading is the "go to" strategy du jour for stocks, carrying that same strategy into commodities and "real wealth" will leave you homeless on the Continent that your Fathers fought and died for. You cannot day trade a hamburger or a glass of milk or an apple or a farm!

I have been reporting on the dire consequences of farmers here in Hawaii a few weeks ago. Well, nothing has changed and in fact things are getting worse globally and since our wise economic and financial leaders have decided for us all that we will be better off importing food and clothes and basic life support systems in exchange for complete foreign dependence for even our own DEBT we are now facing the unwinding of the US EMPIRE at a most inopportune time. As if there is such a thing as an opportune time to unwind globalized greedy fraudulent excesses!

We are a Nation of CO-DEPENDENTS ... suckling on the welfare teat ... milking the system ... and hoping nobody notices us as we sip margaritas in Cabo on the US TAXPAYERS dime like Communist party leaders used to at the Black Sea! We are the USSA!! Its not someday we might be the USSA ... we're there! Now!! This is the WELFARE/WARFARE STATE! Just look at the US TREASURY DAILY STATEMENT at the FMS ... its there for you to see in black and white and lots of RED! RED!!! Like USSR RED !!! Only its RED INK! More than any of us can physically count in our lifetime!

None of this is "doom and gloom" ... its REALITY and its stark!

Can you possibly think of a more wasteful and inefficient design for communities and life than SUBURBIA? I know ... I used to live there ... Pleasant Hill, CA ... commuting two hours each way to San Jose, M-F! Last Jan 2008 when I was in Perth, Western Australia I would describe that to my mates there and they would call me a bloody lunatic! Australia has its suburbs as well, but they are not as populated and sprawling as the ones in America. Yet, try to convince Aussies that it is not an abnormal sight in America's big cities to see one person per car six to eight lanes wide on each side of the freeway all in a Nazi Autobahn SUV demolition derby every day! Can I even count the accidents I used to see during my commutes? I think not! It boiled down to a "commuter actuary" where the silent unspoken rule is "the longer your commute the more your chances of crashing"! Yet we all just put that in the back of our heads in the morning, grabbed our coffees and start our engines like some RAF pilot cranking up his 1943 SpitFire ready for dogfights over Britain! Then when a BIG RIG got in front of us and caused us to slow from 90MPH down to 80 we are ready to fire bomb the driver and nudge the burning wreckage off the side of the 680 South! Little do we realize during our "fist-shaking fits" that those miserable BIG RIGS slowing us down and obstructing our views are carrying food and water and clothes and the vitals of our tenuous suburban lifeline! I don't know but I never saw a producing farm at Bishop Ranch and come to think of it ... where's the "Ranch" part? Is Chevron a Ranch? Here I sit on a tiny island not an hours drive away from the largest operating(235,000 acres)family owned cattle ranch in America ... Parker Ranch ... shipping beef to Japan to boot! Add in abundant geothermal power, fish galore, fruit galore, vegetables, wild pigs, stupendous amounts of wind and water, sun year round and a total population of 190,000, one seventh the population size of Contra Costa County California(where Pleasant Hill is). The Big Island population density is 37/sq mile compared to Contra Costa County density of 1,400/sq mile and probably 95% suburbanized! There are stark suburban realities in America that are completely out of balance with Nature and the rest of the World as we know it. Problem is can America continue to fund this inefficiency? I placed my bet in 1998 when I bought a farm here in Hawaii!

America has so much "waste" to unwind ... it is staggering but that is yet another hallmark of EMPIRE!

RESILIENT COMMUNITIES must become a priority simply because the alternatives are more IMPORTS, more DEBT and more WASTE which begets more slavery! There really aren't alternatives when saturation is achieved.

IT ALL WORKS UNTIL IT DOESN'T!

BUSH MEMORIES

ALOHA !!

Anyone here recall these days when our "priorities" were 180 degrees?

"The most important thing is for us to find Osama bin Laden. It is our number one priority and we will not rest until we find him."
- G.W. Bush, 9/13/01

"I want justice...There's an old poster out West, as I recall, that said, 'Wanted: Dead or Alive,'"
- G.W. Bush, 9/17/01, UPI

Well, I guess Osama is still out there roaming around Pakistan somewhere. He outlasted Bush! In fact Osama outlasted the USSR!

Remember the IRAQ WAR? Recall that then Tres Sec O'Neill was fired for saying that the Bush war estimate of $1.78bil USD was much too low!

Total cost as of right now $645bil USD!!!

A 36,000%+ miscalculation! Yet we trust these same Harvard guys to fix the banks and bring back US prosperity!

Go to this link: http://zfacts.com/p/447.html

At the above link you will see at the top they have some choice quotes from Rumsfeld. Anyone here still remember Rumsfeld? Does it seem strange that the IRAQ WAR and the "War On Terror" is now forgotten, much like the "War On Drugs" and the "War On Poverty" and the Vietnam War? Its all taken a backseat when our very own financial survival is at stake ... looming large on everyone's mind! Yet the IRAQ WAR costs keep right on going ... look at that clock go ... kinda like the National Debt Clock! Billions per minute!

Then there is that "lovable lout" Dick Cheney! Look at his insights on IRAQ at that link! Anyone here still recall how Cheney shot the face off his attorney pal and then a few days later the attorney is on TV apologizing for putting his head in front of Cheney's shotgun and spoiling Cheney's hunting trip? Man ... with a doormat like that who would hire him to defend you? Where is that attorney now? Probably the lead donor for the Bush Presidential Library! Heck where's CHENEY? Is he still in the bunker?

Does anyone here actually miss the Bush leadership other than Jay Leno and David Letterman and Jon Stewart?

Hummmmm???? OBAMA? Whasssup????

The collective memory of the American voter is probably running around one day! oopps ... now its down to 23.4 hours!! We need an AMERICAN VOTER MEMORY CLOCK so we can watch the braincells vaporize!

QUESTION AUTHORITY AND THEN VOTE THEM OUT!

Re: ...too soon to write off Obama?

BillySundance,

One of the reasons I like coming to the Cara blob is there are so many individuals here who are attempting to buck the system. If more people would at least "think" for themselves the media, government data, lobbyists and others would have their power diminished greatly.

I often tell our two sons, "Question everything — including what I say."

I know a lot of people are under great stress just trying to get through the day — kids to care for, multiple jobs, ailing parents to care for. I have watched it increasingly eat away at our available time. It was much easier for me and I sometimes forget that in the frustration of current events.

When I first started my own business in the late 1950s (between my two years of college) the country was in the midst of the post WW2 upswing. Jobs were plentiful. I applied to work at a neighborhood grocery when a high school junior, then a better paying one at a paint and hardware store, an advertising department in a manufacturing company, the art department at a aero-space company after my army hitch — in my whole life I NEVER was turned down on a job application.

Things began to change in the mid 1970s. This is clearly visible in a report which I printed from:

Changes in Median Household Income: 1969 to 1996 (P23-196)

www.census.gov/hhes/income/mednhhld/t5a.html

(Note: I just checked and not available directly anymore, but a pdf can be had by googling the following:)

Changes in Median Household Income: 1969 to 1996

The data are inflation adjusted, but no tax adjustment is mentioned. From my own income tax returns I can see a major increase in taxes began during that time and has never reversed. The report shows the increase in people working per household and the minuscule increase in income (6.3%).

No wonder families are stressed, often to the breaking point.

I have thought of writing a book, "Life is Taking Up Too Much of My Time", and have an extensive file built up for it, but it would be too much of a downer since I have few suggestions for workable solutions.

I continue to believe congress is our greatest problem.

Thanks and enjoy your weekend too.

Crayfish and noise

The crayfish visual was sharp and it really presents balance. Too much noise and no noise were equally a hindrance. Our ability to process and manage information has its limitations. I should have more appropriately said minimize the noise.

Still there are a great many types and sources of noise in our lives. The Big 3 (government, corporate, media) use incessant targeted propaganda and they seek to dominate our minds for their own purposes. And indeed we do need some of this noise to become aware. This then provides us the opportunity to discover the truth from the source and to test it to see if it resonates with our own experience.

Consider, however, that it is very difficult to immerse yourself in targeted propaganda and continue to be without bias. The Cramer clips played by Jon Stewart illustrated this perfectly. The Big 3 know how to use the information and that it will influence. It is also very difficult to decipher all of that targeted propaganda without bias.

But by minimizing the noise, we are limiting the influence of the targeted propaganda and most likely increasing the scope of our awareness.

Re: ...too soon to write off Obama?

Gotta agree with you Grym. Just wait. The time period you mention is immediately following Vietnam, where our CONgress again decided it was going to ignore the people and represent whoever the hell was benefiting from THAT boondoggle....the very same benefiting today no doubt.....or their kids.

So if taxes rise and the standard of living drops like it did to pay for Viet Nam (I have no idea about adjusting for inflation but it sickens me) then we can all imagine what it's going to be like to pay for Iraq.

The CONgress is no longer the people's house. There's an election in a couple years. Are there any Caraistas running? The people need to take back the People's House....and Kaimu is right on again.

I worry though.....I know it takes some kind of pissed off drive and concern for Kaimu to write those posts, and stress is really bad for you.

Ask anyone that drives from the 'burbs to the city everyday. Ugh.

Re: ...too soon to write off Obama?

casey,

I agree it is difficult to assess the quality of information today. It becomes even more so as the amount and speed of "news" increases. However, I doubt that the ratio of truth to untruth has changed since people have always been basically the same.

I'm in the midst of reading "Intelligence Wars," by Thomas Powers. He cites numerous examples of legal violations and disinformation (lies) from official sources over a long time period.

History, whether ancient, global or our own, is crammed with alternative versions of "truth".

As we've all heard, "ignorance is bliss." (Actually, I think the original here was something different — "If ignorance is bliss, then the pursuit of knowledge is folly.")

Maybe we are just becoming more skeptical, which I see as a plus.

Throw away your TV

Seriously. I used to live free of TV. Actually free of TV, radio, electrical power.....

When there was some sort of "emergency" I never knew, nor did it affect me.
When the power was out, it didn't matter...I never knew.
Stuff like 9/11 would have been a total surprise to be discovered at the grocery store. Hell in the late 70's I didn't know who Steve Martin was....NO TV!
We had propane lights, stove and refrigerator and an old wood cook stove for back-up and baking bread. Stress was lighting a fire in the stove!

A simple life is very stress free. Bert is absolutely right.
If you remove the source of the stress you simplify back to your own inner being and the real natural world. THIS is the *real* reality.
The rest is the resulting noise from self interested men trying to influence others into doing their work for them.

The result is suburbs and 40+ hour jobs for everyone in a household, no time for kids, friends, family....or keeping track of the crooks in Washington.

No Casey, the old stuff clearly isn't working!

Re: ...too soon to write off Obama?

Craig,

A good friend, a retired US Army Lt. Colonel with two combat tours in Viet Nam, told me last week that in his opinion, "We went to Nam because of the rubber."

A long time ago I read an opinion that we went to "save South Korea" in 1950 because of titanium.

It is my firm belief we are in Iraq to establish a permanent military base (our Iraq embassy — which is a self-sufficient fortress) to assure Middle East oil access.

All of these may be arguably necessary to our national survival, but wouldn't it be better to simply honestly make the case than to play these stupidly deceptive word games?

Over the long haul "real things" will out class paper assets every time. Who's willing to die for a Federal Reserve Note?

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"So if taxes rise and the standard of living drops like it did to pay for Viet Nam (I have no idea about adjusting for inflation but it sickens me) then we can all imagine what it's going to be like to pay for Iraq."

In our paper today, our new Illinois Governor, Quinn, announced a proposed 50% income tax jump. There is no question we need to do this, but why it is needed has a long history of mismanaging and political skullduggery.

There are a few in Congress who appear to really try to do a good job, but the system is also weighted against them. Perhaps a national push for a Constitutional Convention would give us a chance to draw up a new contract with our employees in Washington. I'd sign in a blink.

We could sure use one in my state. Illinois, We're Number One in Jailbird Governors! ;–(

Re: gold head & shoulders?

tbar - gld may be testing the 1980 high

Haha a reverse head and shoulders! I love it. Its those puzzles that make this game so much fun... :)

Re: ...too soon to write off Obama?

"All of these may be arguably necessary to our national survival, but wouldn't it be better to simply honestly make the case than to play these stupidly deceptive word games?"

LOL! Because THEN we would connect sacrificing the lives of our kids and their rightful inheritance for a private company(ies), just like Eisenhower warned.
Hmmm, maybe he had a little experience and some insight looking into that abyss?

But, necessity is the mother of invention. What do we use rubber for now?
Not a lot. We gave up on rubber (more or less) and went for oil from which we have made rubber replacements, plastics, etc.

The truth is, we don't really want, or more accurately, TRUST, real free trade or capitalism. One, we have no capital only wooden nickels, and two, we don't use free trade, we use the time tested and failed tools of empire to secure raw materials. Then we accuse everyone else of all sorts of wrongs when they do the same. Just look at our attitude about China and it's acquisitions of raw materials through legal trade! No, we haven't trusted or been capitalists for some time. Pretty screwed up, isn't it?

SPY

A couple things concern me about this rally, at least on my SPY chart.

1. Volume is dropping off as the rally progresses.
2. Money flow is following the same line down.

It looks like selling into the rally, not a rally on higher volume like we would like to see.

Anyone else see this on your SPY charts?

Agapov in touble

http://www.vancouversun.com/business/Vancouver+min...

A report out of Vancouver says that he is being accused of plundering millions of dollars from a now defunct Thai bank.

awareness isn't truth

casey said - In general I stress to friends here, Awareness isn't "truth"... it's the ability to accept a larger picture of "reality" and match it to how you connect to your surroundings.

From reading all you said (twice), I'm not sure if awareness is a state of being able to receive understanding, or the skillset and habits of thought needed to place yourself into that state in the first place.

Let me reflect. I am most aware when I am calm, clear, engaged, rested, and in balance. Its getting into that state - and often, recognizing when I am NOT in that state, that is the challenge for me.

But is being aware, the same as the "awareness" that you talk about?

Re: Agapov in touble

I still wonder whether Gold Reserve is now the top choice in Venezuela, considering the contorted wheeling and dealing going on in the background.

Re: ...too soon to write off Obama?

Casey,

interesting and huge topic... I'll try to go over some points I can think of on the go, in order to highlight important similarities and differences between USSR and USA during big change.

    Propaganda and brainwashing.

While there are certain similarities in the techniques, here are some big differences.
1. The lie in the Soviet Union was way more blatant. I mean, there is much more to the USA claim of being the greatest country than ever was to the similar claim by USSR.
2. Masses were brainwashed and misinformed to much greater degree, while having way less means to discover the truth. No Internet yet, 3 state-owned TV channels, mandatory state-owned newspapers, every article or broadcast or movie are censored, Iron Curtain cuts off information from the rest of the world, indoctrination starts pre-school... and to top it all, attempt to speak freely ends in prison or mental institution. Add broad and deep net of KGB agents listening to every conversation or joke, and you get the full picture of silent fear, forced ignorance and self-imposed ignorance.
3. Political system preventing truth discovery. Whatever can be said about similarities between two major USA parties, it's still two parties sniping at each other and uncovering misdeeds in the process, presenting different points of view, provoking debate etc. USSR's one party was just the major decider of everything, fully controlling all branches of power with no checks and balances.
4. Free entrepreneurship was a crime. People went to jail for trying to make a buck outside of the state production and distribution. Shadow economy existed of course but unlike in USA where it's a crime only if taxes are avoided, it was a crime altogether.

    Resulting mentality.

Spirit of free entrepreneurship was suppressed for generations. People were conditioned to remain silent. No one would take on the streets (rare outbursts were suppressed with brutal force). Rare protesters disappeared (with exceptions of world-famous individuals like Sakharov or Solzhenitsyn). Forbidden books (so-called Samizdat) were read in the night and passed to proven friends in secrecy. Forbidden radio broadcasts from abroad were listened to in the bedrooms. Nothing was said or done in the open. As joke went, "We have the same freedom of speech as Americans do - they can call Reagan names in front of White House, and we can call Reagan names in front of Kremlin".

    Political stability

Unlike USA, Soviet Union was put together by force, against the will of participating republics. Some of them hated each other and almost all of them hated Russia. Great friendship of the nations was a powder-keg with a very short fuse.

Now in light of all above, easy to see how the collapse of USSR was very different from anything that may happen in the USA. When Gorbachev started his reforms (Perestroika), relaxing limits on the social discourse and allowing first enterprises, the reality came gashing and ruined the very foundation of the beliefs people were raised with. Hard to imagine how shocking it was for a lot of people to discover that Lenin was a murderer with arms covered in blood, and not a wise grandfather with kind smile. That Soviet Union was not the fairest country in the world that every working person in the world dreamed to live in... and not a military superpower anymore. Some of Republics started shooting at each other. Some left the union in a hurry, starting with 3 Baltic ones, then the rest followed the suit. The sheer speed of collapse was mind-boggling. World crashed around people who were not ready for anything like that mentally. Businesses appeared like mushrooms everywhere and became another controversy, quickly giving a rise to Mafia and bloody conflicts.

Events of those times were too grandiose on the scale and too numerous to fit in a post on the blog... but the main idea that I am trying to convey is, pendulum in USSR was pushed so far to one side that the swing the the other side was extremely furious. USA is very different in this regard. People are conditioned differently. Political life is much more open and transparent (I know, sounds strange but in comparison it's true), there is no hidden tension and deep hatred between states ready to explode in civil wars. Freedom of speech is a norm, not a novelty. Information is and was available for those who want it and are capable of digesting it. Entrepreneurial spirit is in the blood, and is not something to discover and learn after 3 generations gap.

Considering all the above, however circumsized that account is, I believe that while there are obvious similarities between the two countries, USA is in much better position to weather the storm without anything even close to the total collapse Soviet Union went through - providing right steps are taken of course.

Venezuela

Boy, I would not invest in any company doing business in Venezuela. Talk about country risk...when the rice producers are told what to charge for their rice, regardless of whether or not it's profitable? If one company is top choice today, tomorrow the whims of the President could change 180. Respect for contracts seems like a requirement for any sort of long term investment.

Re: Agapov in touble

Sometimes i wonder how i made it out of grade 6 or perhaps i should spell check my posts, i meant to say trouble not touble, perhaps i just invented a new word :)

Re: Venezuela

Yep, pretty arbitrary dealings in Venezuela. The goal of the Venezuelan government is the nationalization of all industries, so you may as well write off any notion that business will be conducted according to any kind of standard. Further, if the copper price should see its lows of 2002, then much of that industry would be gone. Copper price should be watched, but we won't know until after spring what that looks like. At this point, I would suppose that Venezuela would use any excuse to seize these mines. Just that they don't have any available expertise available to exploit the mines. Its worse than in some African countries.

Re: Venezuela

Venezuela - I see it one of two ways, while Russia/China (PolyMet?) salivate:

1) Suck in the greedy risk takers while asset prices are low then nationalize afterward.
2) Nationalize while asset prices are low, buying up valuable resources on the cheap.

Re: ...too soon to write off Obama?

Craig,

My assertion: "All of these may be arguably necessary to our national survival, but wouldn't it be better to simply honestly make the case than to play these stupidly deceptive word games?"

To which you replied: "LOL! Because THEN we would connect sacrificing the lives of our kids and their rightful inheritance for a private company(ies), just like Eisenhower warned."

Rubber, titanium or oil — we may truly need some raw material in greater amounts than we possess.

Consider oil which is the current item most desired. With the Middle East perpetually in danger of conditions preventing the purchase of the needed quantities of oil I can understand the decision to take extreme action (in this case too extreme and underhanded, I believe).

It doesn't matter today that we squandered the 30 years since the first shortages here. The reality is this country would grind (literally) to a halt without adequate oil supplies. But I maintain people would rather be told the truth flat out than to find out later (or continually suspect) the real reasons for such adventures.

Your comments about free trade, IMO, fall into the same category. (I assume the "WE" refers to those profiting from our manipulated trade policies. Most of us would prefer trade to war.)

Today's talk of restoring trust in the financial system without addressing the cheats and liars who brought on this mess and still continue in their former posts is fruitless. It can only increase cynicism and give justification to the flaunting of laws by more people.

A good example of reasons for my governmental distrust which, unless corrected, will continue to bug me:

http://tiny.cc/m9pQd

Regulator Says Bailout Fund Is Misleading the Public By REUTERS February 6, 2009
"...in buying those securities, Henry M. Paulson Jr., then the Treasury secretary, misled the public about how it was going to price them, said Elizabeth Warren, a Harvard law professor and head of an oversight panel for the bailout, known as the Troubled Asset Relief Program, or TARP."

Monday

So I get the impression this forum expects a Monday sell-off? I'm anticipating a strong day b/c Bernanke has an opportunity to hit one out of the park.

Re: I feel managed

Make that managed, spoonfed and patted on the head! There, there, have a nice rally in the sun and be home in time for supper!
If one accepts these fait accompli as manufactured for our amusement then trading on the backs of HB&B may be likened to a Border Collie running across the backs of penned sheep. One foot wrong and you're in the poo. Begs the question: are their broader backs to ride?

Re: I feel managed

Hiccup. Splat!!

Re: Mortgage Rates

Luggie, not to brag but I just closed 2 refis this week in 20 days from application--no sweat. Pick your sources carefully.

Re: ...too soon to write off Obama?

I think we agree Grym.
you wrote:
"Rubber, titanium or oil — we may truly need some raw material in greater amounts than we possess.

Consider oil which is the current item most desired. With the Middle East perpetually in danger of conditions preventing the purchase of the needed quantities of oil I can understand the decision to take extreme action (in this case too extreme and underhanded, I believe)."

I wonder, don't we cause these conditions with our overreactions? I ask this knowing there are other forces in the world that would do us harm....but have we over-reacted causing even more over-reactions by others?

Or, let's look at it this way. Milk costs about $2.00 a gallon. There are no terrorists, long shipping lanes, super-tankers, pirates, deep well technology, middle east conflicts, military involvement/protection, etc. etc. No massive multi-national corporations with offshore accts, country risk, stock buy backs and billions of dollars in infrastructure and endless PR expenses to keep the big lie going.
Yet gas costs about the same as milk, $2.00 a gallon. In order to deliver gas for the same price as milk, a much, much, much lower risk product, who must we be screwing right now? and......how pissed off are they going to be after they over-throw the royal criminals we support?

Which came first? Empire or Empire masquerading as free enterprise?

Re: ...too soon to write off Obama?

Thanks Vadym

That was awesome, it helps with perspective for our situation now

If the majority of information we had were lies, it would be easier to sort out what truth was. The mix of lies and truth is so jumbled now, with so many variations of each story... It's as Nemo laments... how can the average person untangle it... they can't

I think the real issue is not that United State is close to total collapse but rather we are in middle of the process of transforming.

Everyone feels this, putting forth all sort of theory's... and news items like this

http://tinyurl.com/d2t49p

Which ties back to me watching P2P / copyright. Why is the US creating so many secrets as it transforms whole underlying structure of how we do business (so it can be controlled by a few)?

My hope is still of the heart and working out from there.

Thanks again that was a great post my friend.

Re: awareness isn't truth

I need to do a clarification post later... I have to think about another way of saying the idea I am circling around... I have been thinking out loud more of late, which means the words are trickier

Alberta Field Report

Front page in local paper: 29,400 jobs lost in first 2 months, government forecast is 15,000 jobs lost for whole year. Oops! Worse yet, they're sticking to that forecast.

Over last few years there was huge pressure on housing with immigration from rest of country. Not enough housing, soaring prices (53% in 1 year), no rental vacancy. Now immigration has turned to emigration, yet there are probably a dozen highrise aparments under construction. My own prediction is more job losses, more emigration, and serious pressure on rental rates when all the new units enter the market.

But really, my view wasn't all that negative on the economy here in general. I figure oil will hold around $50, enough for many oil sands projects to continue, though new plans being put on hold.

However yesterday I drove through Calgary and my outlook got just a little bit worse. Everywhere you look there are cranes, construction is still booming (or rather, projects started during boom are still under construction). Drove by a 52 story office tower just started, probably saw 20 cranes working on apartment building, another half dozen on shopping centers, etc. That is a ton of capacity at a time when demand is slipping. It is said Alberta was in a depression in the early 1980's, and it is all to easy imaginine it happening again.

Reminds me of reading a few years back that Calgary was shooting past Edmonton in terms of size and development, and partially to blame was Edmonton's reluctance to issue municipal debt. So once again we have debt fueling an (artificial) boom, and now it's coming home to roost.

Also talked to a friend of pastor friend of mine who hears many tales of woe, tales of retired folks who have lost the bulk of their retirement, tales of people who were heavily invested in oil & gas (bread and butter of Alberta) who were basically wiped out. Yes the tide will eventually turn, but an 80% loss on investments isn't turned around in a year or two...

Regarding James Kunstlers views on the unsustainability of suburbia, I read a lot of his stuff a couple years back and don't disagree. I was happy that Edmonton avoided the sprawl for a long time, unfortunately about 5 years ago they caved and now we've got our fair share of it. But Calgary's sprawl is mindboggling. It would probably take 3 times as long to traverse Calgary end-to-end as it would Edmonton, though our population is fairly close.

Sorry for rambling. Just happy to be back home and able to contribute again :)

Re: I feel managed

loannetter said - Make that managed, spoonfed and patted on the head! There, there, have a nice rally in the sun and be home in time for supper!

Wow I am so glad I wasn't drinking when I read that, I would have spewed all over my keyboard! Too funny that's a great mental image. Pavlov is ringing the bell for dinner, time to slobber. They hope I'm either five years old, or a dog! :)

Of course it's up to me to determine how to react. I can be angry, or frustrated, or - maybe even laugh. I think the imagery you provided is probably best. Laughter makes everything relax a little bit, makes everything seem less serious.

As Bill has said before, they have all the advantages of information control, but they have to move trillions, and we only have to move a tiny amount of money. We are more nimble, and that is our only advantage.

investing thoughts

I recently played Darden Restaurants (DRI) somewhat successfully on the short side, and got out in time for this weeks huge rally. And I think next week I'll be loading up on puts again. There is just too much unjustified optimism for restaurants in general, and Darden has a pretty ugly balance sheet in my opinion.

Tidbits from article at: http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/090309/restaurants_analyst...

"Restaurants may prove to be more resilient than other consumer-dependent industries as the recession deepens, a Morgan Keegan analyst said Monday.

Analyst Bob Derrington said in a note to investors that although traffic may be down relative to what it was in more "robust times," same-store sales -- or sales at stores open at least a year -- are holding up relatively well."

Wow, sounds like some serious conviction on analysts part! I think the analysts are in for a surprise. Here's another incredibly dull minded analysis explaining the holding up of restaurant sales:

"At some point it seems battle-fatigue sets in and, as a protective conditioned-response, consumers look for an escape," he said. "Restaurant dining can provide that escape."

Yeah, until their credit card is rejected and they can't afford $50+ for one meal for a family, or they realize they could feed their family for 1/10th the cost at home.

And then this gem:

"He also noted that many chains have begun offering deals to diners to entice them to eat out rather than cook in."

Boy, that sure sounds like a positive for the industry! Maybe this is why sales are holding up, but sales do not equal profits.

Let me repeat the balance sheet picture as of Nov. 23, 2008:

Current Assets (ex-Inventory): $240M
Current Liabilities: $1,380M

Earnings out Tuesday. I know it's a bit of a gamble, but I'll be positioning myself short before earnings...

Re: Monday

CP- Are you positioned for a strong day? I don't have a take right now either way.

I went to 100% cash on March 2, which allowed me to work through my thoughts. 2 days later, I was back to 50% buy-and-hold via mutual funds (just in time to get whacked for 3 more days before the market turned around), and 50% trading. The buy-and-hold half ended up about 10% for the week, the trading half ended up 25% (mostly due to larger than average sized bets on financials). So it was a good week. If I were talking to Mark, I would say it's back to X+15%, which puts me back to the summer of 2006.

Here's the thing- I've noticed that whenever Vinod and I (used to) let winning trades ride for a week and take our families out to dinner on Fridays, the same trades would invariably swing the other way the following Mondays. So not wanting a Monday morning downer, I exited FAS near Friday's close. (The only exception is a 1% position in FAS that I intend to hold for a few weeks in the event of a black swan that takes it up 10-fold. A swan dive is more likely at some point. My position sizes on FAS normally range up to 6% of the portfolio. There were times last week they moved as high as 10%. A few of the buys ended up with 100% gains. Would peg the average at 50%, so the FAS trades probably accounted for most of the 15% difference in performance.)

Weekend headlines are all about "vows to restore lending." If I read between the lines, I can only see a couple of ways for that to happen: (a) lower mortgage rates, or (b) temporarily suspending M2M (which makes sense to me, as I see no other way out of the Catch-22 of assets no one wants to touch right now).

These are the days of miracle and wonder

The Boy in the Bubble Paul simon

It was a slow day,
And the sun was beating
On the soldiers by the side of the road,
There was a bright light,
A shattering of shop windows
The bomb in the baby carriage
Was wired to the radio,
These are the days of miracle and wonder,
This is the long distance call,
The way the camera follows us in slo-mo
The way we look to us all,
The way we look to a distant constellation
That's dying in a corner of the sky,
These are the days of miracle and wonder
And don't cry baby don't cry
Don't cry,

(Pause)

It was a dry wind,
And it swept across the desert
And it curled into the circle of birth,
And the dead sand,
Falling on the children
The mothers and the fathers
And the automatic earth,
These are the days of miracle and wonder,
This is the long distance call,
The way the camera follows us in slo-mo
The way we look to us all o-yeah,
The way we look to a distant constellation
That's dying in a corner of the sky,
These are the days of miracle and wonder
And don't cry baby don't cry
Don't cry

(Pause)

It's a turn-around jump shot
It's everybody jump start
It's, every generation throws a hero up the pop charts,
Medicine is magical and magical is art think of
The Boy in the Bubble
And the baby with the baboon heart

And I believe
These are the days of lasers in the jungle,
Lasers in the jungle somewhere,
Staccato signals of constant information,
A loose affiliation of millionaires
And billionaires and baby,
These are the days of miracle and wonder,
This is the long distance call,
The way the camera follows us in slo-mo
The way we look to us all o-yeah,
The way we look to a distant constellation
That's dying in a corner of the sky,
These are the days of miracle and wonder
And don't cry baby don't cry
Don't cry don't cry

Correlation

For those interested in correlation. The correlation between miners/gold and oil companies in Q1 2009 so far is near a perfect... zero: -0.01 (down from a correlated 0.71 in 2008): http://shockedinvestor.blogspot.com shows correlations each quarter. Charts to come.

Re: ...too soon to write off Obama?

Vadym, thanks for writing that post. I have read stuff on collapse by Orlov, and it has been concerning me for a while now. He's a smart guy, and yet the stuff he wrote didn't sit right with me. I felt like he was leaving some important things out of the equation, but I couldn't quite put my finger on it.

Entrepreneurial spirit, availability of information, history and expectation of democracy, the habit of relatively free speech, no likelihood of immediate civil war, those are major positives - especially when compared to the FSU. We think differently because we were raised in a different environment. How different, we don't really understand. But you do.

Thanks again.

Re: Monday

2nd - "CP- Are you positioned for a strong day? I don't have a take right now either way."

Yes, TNA, TCK, BAC and a couple others. A once in a lifetime opportunity perhaps? Too bad I didn't catch them at rock bottom but if things turn seriously south I'll cut 'em loose. IMO, M2M is about to see modification along with maybe uptick reinstated.

How much longer can they allow these job losses to mount? 10+% will be painful with long recovery if spread across country, boomers asking where their life savings went saying "I don't know" is unacceptable.

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We are pleased to have world-famous architect Michael Wong and Hutchison Whampoa Bahamas CEO Chris Gray join me 2:30-4:15pm Sunday March 29 at the Hilton British Colonial to present our perspective on investing in Bahamas and China, and the relationship that is developing between both countries.
http://blue.mhkw.com/mhkwmoviefinal.html
http://tinyurl.com/akh89a
http://www.thenassauguardian.net/national_local/37...
http://www.freeportcontainerport.com/news.php?id=8...

Also, Stephen Wellman (kaimu) will be returning from Hawaii for the second time in two months. He will be talking about gold and junior miners, and the CTAB gold fund and junior explorer and developers fund we will develop this year. In addition, legendary GATA chairman Bill Murphy will be joining us on Saturday March 28, and will speak about his views on gold, following lunch.
http://caracommunity.com/category/image-galleries/...
http://www.gata.org/

After flying Stephen and Michael down the Exumas, across to Little San Salvador and up Eleuthera to Harbour Island and Spanish Wells, and back over Paradise Island, seeing the wondrous beauty from 1000 feet or less, both discovered what I did many years ago.

Michael’s trip was in the mid-90’s, and he returned within two months to architect the redevelopment of the Hilton British Colonial. Presently he is working on two projects in China (Tianjin and Hainan) that are simply mind-boggling, covering a total of 5.2 million square meters. CTAB will be developing a China-Bahamas Opportunities Fund this year as well.

All the above plus about ten members of the CTAB Team, including Vad Graifer from Victoria BC, Pascal Willain from Belgium, Chris Start from Perth Australia, Tony Garson from Toronto, Geoff Goetz and Pat Veech from Chicago, as well as Stephen Wellman, Jim Watt and myself, and many more. This will be a terrific experience for those who attend. Hope to meet you in person.

Re: gold head & shoulders?

Dave,I am a sucker for a good t.a. puzzle. Here is another with the hui. The neckline that started this mess pretty much has to get tested doesn't it?

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Re: Cara Bahamas 2009 Conference Update

Bill

As many people may not be able to attend the CTAB in person, you may want to explore webcasting some of it live to other users of the community all over the world. Or someday have a virtual conference along with the physical one where the online community can also participate.

A company I know capable of doing this is ON24 from San Francisco. Check them out at

http://on24.com/webcasting_products.html

They recently came out with the virtual show product also.

http://www.on24.com/products_virtualshow.html

shark

Check out the link to community photos. That leaves you with who really killed the Kennedys (I think it was Oswald and Sirhan, myself), and I forget your other burning question.

Don't let the "traditional frisking at Rock Sound Airport" scare you away from CTAB ;)

Kaimu

Well I don't recall seeing that face in any post office, which is good! Much too young and handsome to be forced into a life of cynicism! HA!

Re: gold head & shoulders?

T-bar, please correct me if im wrong, in order for this to happen either the USD will have to fall hard which would i assume be bullish for the markets in general or there will be another panic selloff where money heads to the USD and gold.

Re: Monday

2nd
I think we will rally up to G20 meeting. All involved in G20 are cooking a lot together. Bottom was made at 666.
Brought some FAZ on Friday at 39.00 to protect my long BAC/JPM.
Next week is also expiration week and it is triple expiration, and I am expecting wild swing up to Friday.
I do read all the post that is about market and stock. Also it is not easy to get mortgage with good credit and big down payment like before and now they wants closing cost (2500) while it was none before. Went to my mortgage broker, a friend of 25 year for my son’s mortgage. Credit score of 740. House price 420k and need mortgage for 280K. They quote me 5.125 with 2.5K closing cost no point. We told him to lock in when it is 5.oo or under. Broker said now a day bank wants lots of information. My feeling is housing market is not going to improve soon. Reason is they are now stricter than they should be to giving a mortgage to people.
Also, I did join Reality Trader and learning. I feel that I need more experience. When S&P was at 666 I went 80% in market with Dow stock only. Sold most on Friday but kept BAC/JPM/MSFT. Incase thing go bad brought 100 FAZ

Re: Monday

Chickenpookie
Something is going to happen about M2M.
If a house on your street auction of at 300k which is less than market value of 370k.
Do you think it is proper to mark down all similar houses in development at 300K?
That is what M2M is and it is crazy.

Re: ...too soon to write off Obama?

ALOHA !!

Yes, I agree with Vadym and thank you for your analysis. My ex-boss from the USSR(Kiev) would always praise the USA, but in fact he was comparing apples and oranges as the USA started with FREEDOM and built on it, but that was in 1776 and even our Founding Fathers consistently warned of the fragility of those freedoms. We now see the erosion of FREEDOM over the past 230 years and I think if the Founding Fathers were alive today they would order the entire US CONgress to be hung for TREASON, including Bush and Obama! What we have now is nothing remotely resembling what we started with. The essence of the US CONSTITUTION and DECLARATION OF INDEPENDENCE is SMALL GOVERNMENT that serves WE THE PEOPLE. What we have now is HUGE GOVERNMENT that destroys WE THE PEOPLE! I believe the biggest cause of BIG GOVERNMENT has been the fiat monetary system illegally foisted on this country by the US FED and its member banks. Any chance for REAL CHANGE has to address that very banking cartel, otherwise it is just a band-aid!

BLAH- BLAH - BLAH!!

So aside from the "assigned" value on the FX, what is the fundamental difference between a Ruble and a US Dollar? They are essentially one in the same as they both are DEBT based and can be printed into infinity, but the US Dollar has the one advantage of Worlds Reserve Currency, had the Ruble been the Worlds Reserve Currency we would be speaking Russian now!

Worlds Reserve Currency is a heavy sword to lift and it cuts both ways. It just depends on how the "rulers" of the sword decide to use it. So far I have been very disappointed with their choices over the past 50 years!

Worlds Reserve Currency in and of itself guarantees nothing in the end and that became a 100% guarantee of NOTHING in 1971.

Its still THE MONEY STUPID!

Re: awareness isn't truth

Ok My answer why awareness is so important right now

My answers should not be taken literally, but more poetic… If you look at this answer 100% literally you will miss part of what I trying to answer about awareness. I have to answer from a more Taoist point of view, since it’s how I see the world and best can translate what I am trying to say.

We have the habit of dividing the world between: perception, fact and faith. We need all three of these elements to have a holistic world view. The balance between these three aspects of viewing the world is ever shifting. It’s a massive paper, rock , scissors game, where fact trumps perception, faith trumps fact and perception trumps faith… give or take in varying degrees, but you get the point hopefully (look at this at several levels of meaning).

Awareness ends up being how a person accepts the current balance of these three forces their life.

With that awareness a person can literally reshape their form and life in countless manners.

This in fact constituents the deep inner practices of Taoism. People spend decades mastering how to shape form with these three essences. We have develop a whole set of different terms over thousands of years to define and how to work with these elements of a person’s life. But that is neither here or there.

The importance of awareness right now, is this:

The world is rapidly reshaping itself, as potential does get released. Most people, as a herd, will let society shape them.

However, if you don’t what to be shaped by society, you have to take personal actions. Most people’s actions will still be largely shaped by the large amounts of false information. Awareness is required to properly take the time to understand and accept how you are shaping yourself. It’s important to take time to have some patience and work from the heart of your being, so you don’t reshape yourself to something that goes against your inner nature. It's important to use awareness to balance your inner shape relative to what society is trying to reshape us into also.

Right now awareness is very critical in all of our practices since it is only with awareness you can shape how you use fact, faith and perception to mold your life. Without awareness, a person simple re-acts and is directly controlled by events as they happen

Sorry for a more Taoist Answer, but I hope this makes sense.

This answer doesn't tell a person how to use awareness, countless 1,000's of meditation and other practices evolved to use awareness as a tool to reshape a person's life.

But awareness is the key tool to use in reshape life in this time of potential. How you use the tool is another question all together.

I hope this answer is not too wu-wu

:) have fun

Re: shark

ALOHA !!

Oh Wow ... he posted it!

HA ... HA!! Holy Cow ... I think I dared Bill to use my "assume the position" photo! Don't ever dare BILL!! I vaguely recall we were talking about South Florida and the Bahamas weather and I announced ... "This is what I remember from my days in South Florida ... ASSUME THE POSITION!" HA!! Jim the photographer decided to shoot my photo! We had a good laugh!

I can assure people here that I never got frisked once in the Bahamas!

In my surfing 20's years traveling with a huge backpack that stunk of dried conch(leftovers from Fiji)I did get frisked once(and only once)in Sydney, Australia ... HA!! Those were the days when "profiling" was not a dirty word! HA, and the blonde long-haired surfing types were perfect prey for the establishment!

I have mended my ways and now I am much more "compliant" to the dictates of the proletariat! HA!!

Hummmmmm????

Re: Monday/herding nonsense.

Craig,

My chart says the same thing as yours does... rally is fading with volume. We go down, retest that "a bottom" and most likely go lower before we get a nice summer rally to the 200 day average.

Mark to market...

If a home is selling next door and HAS NOT SOLD, it has no value until someone wants to buy it. This is a matter of supply and demand. There is a glut of supply being pushed onto the market. There are not enough qualified buyers to pick up the pieces at current market values.
We built a quarter century of homes in 5 years and we sold a quarter century of homes to first time home buyers during that period too... All demand was pulled from the future from easy money. Also prices were raised and supported by easy credit, not in fact by production or higher wages. We must GET THAT...

If the home has a market value of 370K, a house next to that goes to auction for 300k, is that the market? Well tell me in the last 6 months how many other homes sold for 370k? The statement is a little more complicated than an assumption that mark to market does not work. It does...
Are their buyers lining up to buy the house next to the other home for 370k?
Maybe the one foreclosure brings the value of the area for comparable reasons to 350k. The values sure aren't going up.
What happens when there is another home .25 miles sells for 300k in foreclosure? If the market is foreclosure, THE MARKET is set and it is what it is.
These assets have a market, it is a quarter on the dollar. John Paulson (no relation to Hank) is trading them in his hedge fund, there are BUYERS at .25 but the banks won't sell them at those levels. If the banks did sell them they would be practically writing checks to the buyers too....

All homes are valued and should be valued at what Today's market is and where it will be in the future. A home is SHELTER not an investment. It became an investment since credit became easy to obtain for purchasing homes. historically homes have only outpaced inflation by 3-4%, that of course changed in the 80s...

It makes no sense to mark things to Models.... FYI: models are what they used to get us into this mess... how are they going to lead us out?
The whole system, whole system is broke and if it weren't for the FED it would be dead.
We need it to die and take medicine now or the world will go into a malaise for a decade and maybe longer.

Don't believe the talking heads that state that mark to market is the cause, they have assets tied in one way or another that they believe they can benefit from the change. I deal with the likes of people on a weekly basis. Entertainment to hear their rhetoric. It makes no sense.

By the way, I can sell you a home for 500k in that neighborhood based on the "models" that give it that value?

who's buying?!?!? Takers...

M2M - Bloomberg

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601039&re...

Good read... GE 2% of assets marked to market.... 2%...

Can we believe eliminating transparency will help the broad markets? Credit/equity or even currencies...

Re: Monday/herding nonsense.

Right on EDC. I'd add that the house bought year or two ago for $370K with equivalents being sold for $300K will likely not see a true market value of $370 again for many, many years.

Not to mention with rising unemployment, wage freezes and wage cuts, I don't see people buying the house for $300K in another year. So I agree, unless banks plan on holding their assets until inflation eventually brings their value back up to par, mark to market represents the true value.

Credit bubble provided the fuel to drive the market value in the first place. Credit is contracting, thus there is no fuel. In absence of fuel, asset values shrivel. It just makes sense.

And now picture those assets being dubious, financial engineering products with no true underlying value. Think those things will ever see par value again?

re: indexes visiting 200dma

After the 1929 crash the 200DMA:
- maintained a downward slope for over three years
- wasn't meaningfully breached for just shy of three years
- was just barely touched only twice, within 2 month period after first rally only
- subsequent lower highs got further and further away from 200DMA

The nasdaq crash was a little less severe, but the 200DMA was also abandoned to the downside for 1 year 2 months before significant breach.

I figure we rally at best just above the 50DMA before rally rolls over. Looking at these old bears and rallies really just look small, like they are setting up a trading range, which is eventually proven to be a downtrend after all...

Re: M2M - Bloomberg

No doubt. I could maybe believe in suspending M2M if they would tell us what the assets are, and where they see demand/money coming from to eventually be able to sell these things at anything above market value.

bankers->janitors

Geitner should consider hiring the top 50% of out-of-work bankers to return to their old hunting grounds to clean up the toxic waste. Instead of throwing $700b at the problem. Money like that gets skimmed off. Whereas self-motivated janitors can find satisfaction (and maybe even a little redemption) in cleaning up after themselves and their colleagues. You know, I've always thought they should take the best and brightest and pay them top dollar to be janitors. It's a challenging, honorable profession that requires [an in-depth understanding of several disciplines: human behavior and psychology, disease transmission and prevention, physics, and engineering], [consistent/unflagging attention to detail- almost an obsessive-compulsive personality], [dedication and pride], and last but not least, [the full support of administration in ensuring that the job is taken seriously]. Yet we offer low starting salaries and budgets and often hire people with less than suitable educational backgrounds and personality traits. I'm entirely serious.

re: indexes visiting 200 dma

Thanks guys, it sure looked that way to me.

I just went back a few months and looked at the average oversold ST rally we've had and this one is about average. The majority went higher (temporarily) on lower volume, just like this one, eventually petering out and resuming the trend.

Since the trend is still down but could still rally in this little channel, I'm kinda doing the same as Vinod, I was nibbling on SDS Friday and still have a little FAS.

re: indexes visiting 200 dma

Craig- I'm pretty confident we've seen the ST low. I'm also pretty confident we retest the low. As usual, timing is everything.

Re: bankers->janitors

A synopsis of the investment banking world:

http://businessmirror.com.ph/home/bloomberg-specia...

(fairly lengthy)

The Chinese: speak softly and carry a big stick

We've all read some version this weekend of the quote below:

"Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao had said Friday he was concerned about the safety of the estimated $1 trillion his country has invested in U.S. government debt. China is Washington's biggest foreign creditor, and Obama's administration is counting on the Chinese to help pay for the $787 billion economic stimulus package by buying U.S. bonds.

"Of course we are concerned about the safety of our assets. To be honest, I'm a little bit worried," Wen said. "I would like to call on the United States to honor its words, stay a credible nation and ensure the safety of Chinese assets."

I hate to say it, but having Premier Wen express concern about US debt gives me more confidence that the Fed is going to take action than all the ranting I've heard in the Senate. A clear example of 'the big stick.'

threei: speak softly and carry a big stick

A clear example of the literal translation of the concept. The 2x4, that is.

"AIG had expected its

"AIG had expected its retention payments would cost about $1 billion, according to a March 2 regulatory filing. The payments, reported earlier by Bloomberg, drew criticism from U.S. lawmakers who objected to giving individual employees as much as $4 million at a company whose wrong-way bets on credit- default swaps helped deepen the global credit crisis. AIG had said the payments were needed to keep talented people. "

Pheeew! It's only $100M in bonuses and retentions now. What a relief.

Why aren't all these people in jail? How can this happen?

Re: M2M - Bloomberg

proudPapa,EDC- Let me take a run at this from a different angle. OK, let's say Congress, The Fed, and the past 2 administrations cracked open Pandora's Box by directing/supporting/funding/ Fannie and Freddie to start buying non-conforming loans. Bankers, of course, saw this as an opportunity to originate more loans that could easily be sold on the secondary market.
Obviously that chicken has come home to roost. So what is the most likely thing to happen? Do you think the current administration is going to say, "Yes, I know it is going to be hard, but we must take all of the pain right now, on my watch. Sorry Firefighters, teachers, Police officers, pension funds, college endowments, charities, 401k holders. I know this is not your fault. But all of your holdings are soon to become worthless."
Right or wrong, isn't the most likely course one of trying to cure the patient rather than declaring him dead? Might this not buy enough time to implement the critical changes in the banking system we so desperately need?
No political/socioeconomic comment here. I'll leave that up to the more informed. Just trying to look @ the most likely outcome and trade it accordingly.

The Looting Continues

Gotta love those "no comment" statements...

Despite being bailed out with more than $170 billion from the Treasury and Federal Reserve, the American International Group is preparing to pay about $100 million in bonuses to executives in the same business unit that brought the company to the brink of collapse last year.

An official in the Obama administration said Saturday that Treasury Secretary Timothy F. Geithner had called A.I.G.’s government-appointed chairman, Edward M. Liddy, on Wednesday and asked that the company renegotiate the bonuses.

Administration officials said they had managed to reduce some of the bonuses but had allowed most of them to go forward after the company’s chief executive said A.I.G. was contractually obligated to pay them.

In a letter to Mr. Geithner, Mr. Liddy wrote: “Needless to say, in the current circumstances, I do not like these arrangements and find it distasteful and difficult to recommend to you that we must proceed with them.”

The bonuses will be paid to executives at American International Group’s Financial Products division, the unit that wrote trillions of dollars’ worth of credit-default swaps that protected investors from defaults on bonds backed by subprime mortgages.

An A.I.G. spokeswoman said the company had no comment beyond the text of the letter.

http://tinyurl.com/cxuhey

Re: M2M - Bloomberg

A lot of innocent people would/will get burned, which is why, as SiO2 said above, a lot more people should be going to jail rather than receiving bonuses.

However, a house of cards was built that put a lot more people into homes than should have, and allowed a lot of people to extract equity that shouldn't have. The house of cards has tumbled. What do you suppose will keep all those who bought into the leverage society afloat with no house of cards to support them?

I'm not saying they won't try, in fact I believe everything they have done and will do is to try. I just happen to think they are 1) going about it wrong and 2) will ultimately fail.

As I've mentioned before, I believe the better approach would have been to let all the corporations who perpetuated the fraud fail and put the money to use in a safety net for the people. The countless trillions wasted on banks already could have gone a long way to ease peoples suffering. Instead, it seems the suffering has only started.

Re: The Chinese: speak softly and carry a big stick

2nd-Yep, should have inserted "the Chinese government" between the Fire fighters and teachers in my last post.

Re: The Looting Continues

Um, wouldn't their contractual obligation to pay bonuses be null and void given the criminal activity they conducted? Oh wait, can't label it criminal, that would be like marking-to-market the behavior of execs in too many 'too big to fail' institutions.

Better we pretend that they did the right thing at the time, kind of like pretending the prices they paid for CDS's were the right prices, and continue to be the right prices...

Bit of humor from the newspaper

In a nutshell, economist Allan Brennan of the Alberta government predicted that a cataclysmic event would shake world finances within a year, and Trevor Hamon of Dundee Private Investors suggested we will revert to a lifestyle of grandparents living with children and people taking their own lunches to work.

http://www.edmontonjournal.com/Life/Dire+forecasts...

God help us all if we have to start taking lunches to work. Oh the humanity!!

Re: M2M - Bloomberg

proudPapa- I hear you man. Let me be clear. I am very conservative economically and very liberal socially. I don't want the government to do anything for me other than the basics. Police, fire, education, defense, etc. But all of the people I said before that would be hurt by a complete collapse of the financial system have worked for their entire lives in difficult/underpaid/dangerous jobs with the promise of a decent retirement. If we throw out the safety net for them it will never be withdrawn.
BTW, I bring my lunch to work every day and most that I know do the same. One quick example I would like your input on. My best friend bought his house at the top of the market here in CA. I'd say he is underwater by about $200,000. He has no intention of selling at that price. He lives there, rasing his family, creating memories that will last a life time. His mark to market is the life of the loan. No house of cards, just his house.

Re: Agapov in trouble - Rusoro

Having posted several favorable comments regarding Rusoro, I feel I owe the community an explanation.

If there's one thing I've learned in business, it's to stay away from people with a dubious or complicated past, and work only with good, straight-up people. Therefore, I had gone to some lengths to learn about the management, directors, and founders of Rusoro, and had uncovered nothing substantially negative until Kaimu made me aware a few hours ago of this investigative piece appearing in tomorrow's Vancouver Sun:

http://www.vancouversun.com/business/Vancouver+min...

I had had a long phone conversation with Rusoro director Gordon Keep about Rusoro management and had asked him specifically about the reputation and past dealings of the Agapovs (the founders). He said nothing about the issues reported in the above, or about the investigation commissioned 3 years ago by an unnamed investment bank (which Mr. Keep told the Sun's reporter he had been aware of).

I had asked the same of Rusoro President, George Salamis, who only mentioned Andre Agapov’s sale of a brokerage firm in New York, which I had on my agenda to look into. Google had no negative information about the brokerage business, or about what is reported in the above.

I had, of course, read most available materials and also searched on Google regarding the Agapovs, and nothing had surfaced at all. (That’s why I had phoned Director Gordon Keep and CEO Salamis). Messrs. Keep and Salamis presented themselves well on the phone, and checked out through other channels as experienced and well-regarded mining professionals.

I expect that Rusoro shares will likely crater on Monday. Rusoro has a C$100M financing underway (underwritten by Canaccord and GMP Securities) which is scheduled to close next week. The presumption has to be that the financing will be delayed (perhaps terminally). If Andre Agapov were to resign tomorrow, and the Board were to appoint an interim CEO of impeccable reputation, the financing, and the company's prospects might be restored. However, I believe such developments are unlikely.

So, I will be selling my shares on Monday. I have always closed my posts on Rusoro with "DYODD". I doubt whether even the underwriters of Rusuro's financing had discovered the contents of today's news.

I hope no one else will incur losses because of Rusoro.

re: indexes visiting 200 dma

Here is how some TA guys see the retracement of key indexes for this bear market rally

http://broadcast.ino.com/education/bear_market_rally/

Re: M2M - Bloomberg

Hey Mark, I also bring my lunch almost every day (except wing Wednesdays, can't beat 25 cents a wing :)

Not sure what input you are looking for on your friends example. What I would do to help them or what I would do in their shoes? I don't know enough about bankruptcy laws and the like, but my minimal understanding is that if you walk away from an underwater mortgage, your credit rating is toast for X number of years, but that's it (i.e. bank can't come after remaining assets).

If that is the case, I guess it depends on circumstances. If your friend makes enough and can afford the payment comfortably, and feels a moral obligation to keep paying the mortgage, then he may as well stay.

Now if his payment is $3K/month and he could rent an equivalent house for $1.5K, might it not make sense for him to start considering bailing on the house and renting? I mean, that's an extra $18K per year he could save towards kids education, whatever. Is having your own house and building memories, etc, worth $18K/year? What about the extra financial security of saving an additional $18K? What if he loses his job? He could afford $1.5K/month for twice as long as he could $3K per month, and don't think the banks wouldn't kick him out of his home where all his memories were made.

If I was in his shoes I'd think long and hard about staying tied to that kind of mortgage and the associated financial burden. Yes it would suck giving the keys back to the bank and dealing with the marred credit rating, and I don't know what it would be like trying to find a place to rent (not hard I would think giving the desperate housing situation). Like I said, would need to weight all the variables.

What would I do to help him from the governments standpoint? Well, letting banks ignore mark to market valuations does nothing to help him out. Giving him a lower rate to lower his payments but make him a debt slave for the rest of his life, while a reasonable short term boost to his cash flow, I don't think is doing him any favors.

Heck, better to mark to market house prices and adjust everyones outstanding principle to what the house is worth. Banks and MBS holders get screwed, $ probably crashes a bit, but people get to stay in their homes. But yes, then you get back into the argument that you need to sweeten the deal for people who didn't stretch to buy, etc. etc.

Re: Agapov in trouble - Rusoro

Huh, looks like Endeavor Financial could take it on the chin tomorrow morning as well. Following clip from same article:

"It also provided evidence that Endeavour Financial, which provided financial advisory services to both Rusoro and Gold Reserve, may have double-crossed Gold Reserve to further its own interests."

Let's hope this doesn't tarnish the miners in general...

edit: hmm, reading rest of article this doesn't seem like 'new' news, so maybe no impact...

another investing idea

Didn't make much on my AZO puts as the gap fill i was expecting didn't materialize. But thankfully got out of the way of this weeks rally. Right now it's sitting with oversold daily and weekly RSI's and still has the gap looking to be filled. And not believing we're out of the downtrend yet, will look to hop on board shorting this one again.

I mean look at the chart, you wouldn't even think we're in a recession! And yes, i know, in recession more people will fix old cars, blah blah blah. But I just don't believe this market can support parabolic ascents like this the way it used to...

Re: "AIG had expected its

"AIG had said the payments were needed to keep talented people..."

Ironic isn't it? How many "talented people" are now unemployed and would just love to have a chance to put their heart into a job...

No company is "too big to fail." The only bailout this country needs is lower and fewer taxes and less government.

Re: "AIG had expected its

These people were so 'talented' that they have needed 120 billion just to stay afloat and thats not even a given

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/03/15/business/15AIG.h...

Russia, Venezuela,Rusoro

Interesting confluence of posts today:

Vadym Greifer on the contrast between civil liberties in the USSR and USSA;

tgifbipo and others, including Jock on Venezuela and Rusoro;

and I would like to add the following that I saw in Moneyweek

http://tinyurl.com/at9p2v

which discusses the flight of capital from Russia, but also has some very interesting things to say about how differences in geography between the US and the USSR influence some of the things mentioned by Vadym.

In a way, it hardly seems surprising that Rusoro would turn out to be suspect, to say the least, given ex-KGB Putin and his KGB government and their ties with Venezuela. The more I learn about Russia, the more horrified I become. That Chavez is in bed with them says enough for me and scared me away from Rusoro. Hopefully people will see that this is a Russian thing and that it does not apply to all mining companies. I have nothing against the Russian people, but I recommend people read all they can on Putin.

Re: Russia, Venezuela,Rusoro

ALOHA !!

But then there is America with companies like FNM and FRE who at one time were perceived as GUARANTEED by the USSA ... What did their share prices close at on Friday ... eleven cents less than Rusoro-RML!!!

FNM = $0.42
RML = $0.53

Then if you really want to see sub penny stocks then check out where Lehman shares were on Friday! What sort of retirement will Lehman employees be looking forward to? Where is that Lehman pool of "talent" today?

Just as Venezuela has its "Democratic Dictator" we have some of our own! I honestly do not see the two party aristocracy as much different than "dictators"! What sort of REPRESENTATION do WE THE PEOPLE actual have in DC? Without representation then we have a dictatorship ...

There is a thin line that we Americans tread these days as we look down our noses at the rest of the World!

AHHHH ...

Re: "AIG had expected its

ALOHA !!

Sign me up!!

Re: M2M - Bloomberg

ALOHA !!

I agree EDC ... "crap is crap" no matter how you bundle it!

From a "builders point of view" which has been mentioned here before ... within ten years the banks who "own" those McMansions are going to have to start "deffered maintenance"! PLEASE-E-E, bankers are paper shufflers ... they are salesmen trying to make a bonus. What do they care about COMMUNITY, unless its their own community and even then I am not sure they care much!

I have an investment with a private anti-real estate company based in Southern California and about a month ago I was sitting in the CEOs new offices! We get a monthly newsletter on the company and he mentioned they were moving offices. Well, that blurb started a flurry of concern from shareholders who thought the company was going BK!!! Believe me, it does not take much to spook the herd these days with what is shown on TV on a daily basis. Turns out the building the company was in for ten years was sold and the the new owners jacked up the leases to $3.55 per sq ft in this environment well the company found a better space in a nearby building at $1.55 per sq ft. So the new owners now have an empty building at $3.55 per sq ft! There is an example of "mark-to-market" and supply and demand! SUPPLY abounds prices drop ... Nothing can change that in the Real World!

This is why I believe there will be a revival of REAL WEALTH assets and paper assets will be thrown under the bus! All the MBS, CDO, CDS, SIV are in unlimited supply and even growing not shrinking as I type this.

The basics have always been "brown bag lunches" ... That is what I grew up with! That is what my Father and my Grandmother taught me. That is how they went to work every day. It wasn't that long ago that we were all sold a line of BS that you needed a $5 cup of coffee in a European atmosphere. Was that "mark-to-model"? HA!!!

There is a tie to all this and peer groups, which is what statist schools promote. Public schools promote "sheep mentality", because that is what the State needs in order to survive. Would any of this BAILOUT pass inspection in 1778? SnakeOil salesmen were hung in those days! Now they get $700bil BAILOUTS with no public debate!

Take the first step and vote the two party aristocracy out ...

All we have now is TAXATION WITHOUT REPRESENTATION!

TRIPOLI

ALOHA !!

"From the halls of Montezuma to the shores of Tripoli ..."

Back then US Marines were sent in to free American sailors and merchants from capture and ransom, in order to restore free trade routes of North Africa. We did not OCCUPY then! We were not EMPIRE then ... We had SMALL GOVERNMENT then!

Now we OCCUPY!!! And really few Americans blink an eye at "occupation" except those we occupy! But then we never hear the Iraqis we occupy on the 11:00 news! Its a given that we are occupying them for their own good, since they know little of Democracy and all the virtues of being an American and paying taxes so our military can go spread the LOVE OF DEMOCRACY by bombing and checkpoints and threats of nuclear annihilation!

That is the difference between SMALL GOVERNMENT and BIG GOVERNMENT from a military view point and a concerned taxpayers view point! Who will we be "occupying" next?

In actuality in terms of "occupation" I believe the US GOVERNMENT has been occupying the "free markets" for a very long time now! What has been the cost of that occupation?

I know they occupy the COMEX! Any honest mortgage brokers feeling "occupied"?

What next?

BERNIE'S SOCIAL SECURITY

ALOHA!!

Does Bernie Madoff still collect Social Security in jail?

I was thinking tonight ... What is the difference between the MADOFF PONZI SCHEME and Social Security and Medicare PONZI? You have to know what a PONZI is ... Essentially, those who get in at the beginning of the PONZI get PAID but those at the end DON'T! Its musical chairs right now ...

Tonight I saw this at the Cunning Realist about the Bush plan for private Social Security accounts and it seems to tie in well with this subject.

Imagine if the Bush Plan for private Social Security accounts had passed!! I think we would have seen an actual street revolution with old geezers and their walkers joined by the youth who would see clearly that their payroll deductions for SS and MED were really just one BIG PONZI!

Aren't they? What isn't a PONZI in America these days?

READ ON:
That Would Have Worked Out Well

Anyone seen any recent calls for Social Security private accounts?

The stock market crash has shown how catastrophic private accounts would have been, and who would have really benefited from them. Would the government have allowed the Bear Stearns and Lehman outcomes had the Social Security system been chock full of those stocks? Remember, both were former blue chips, the sort of companies that proponents of private accounts insisted any new system would be limited to. The same for Citi, AIG, Fannie Mae, and others. How much pressure would the Fed and Treasury have felt -- and what more would have been done -- to keep those afloat and/or out of penny stock land?

That pressure would have been exerted by millions of unpaid but highly effective lobbyists: people emailing and calling Washington, demanding that their Social Security money -- and so the stocks, the companies, and the executives -- be saved. Corporate bondholders would have loved it, since the Social Security system effectively would have become a massive safety buffer. Would "nationalization" even be considered if it meant destroying part of Social Security?

Private accounts are dead now, so it's a bit of a moot point. But I wonder how many of those who both supported them and genuinely object to the prevailing bailout ethos ever thought this through.

posted by The Cunning Realist

MORE DEPRESSION STUFF

ALOHA !!

This has value today ... This book was first published in 1955 and became a Best Seller, but later Galbraith published a new introduction in 1997 to update the GREAT CRASH for the 1990s! Doesn't it sound like it could have been in the NY TIMES today?

MEMO TO CITI EMPLOYEES: We are profitable!

So much for CHANGE!!!

Eliminate the US FED and US INCOME TAXES ... Keep your own money out of DC! Its the "long train of abuses ..."

Its the MONEY STUPID!

READ ON:

Friday, March 13, 2009
"The Threat To Capitalism"

Wall Street, in recent times, has become, as a learned phrase has it, very "public relations conscious." Since a speculative collapse can only follow a speculative boom, one might expect that Wall Street would lay a heavy hand on any resurgence of speculation. The Federal Reserve would be asked by bankers and brokers to lift margins to the limit; it would be warned to enforce the requirement sternly against those who might try to borrow on their own stocks and bonds in order to buy more of them. The public would be warned sharply and often of the risks inherent in buying stocks for the rise. Those who persisted, nonetheless, would have no one to blame but themselves. The position of the Stock Exchange, its members, the banks, and the financial community in general would be perfectly clear and as well protected in the event of a further collapse as sound public relations allow.

As noted, all this might logically be expected. However, it did not happen in the go-go years of the late sixties and immediately after -- the years of the performance funds and the conglomerate explosion -- nor will it come to pass. This is not because the instinct for self-preservation in Wall Street is poorly developed. On the contrary, it is probably normal and may be above. But now, as throughout history, financial capacity and political perspicacity are inversely correlated. Long-run salvation by men of business has never been highly regarded if it means disturbance of orderly life and convenience in the present. So inaction will be advocated in the present even though it means deep trouble in the future. Here, at least equally with communism, lies the threat to capitalism. It is what causes men who know that things are going quite wrong to say that things are fundamentally sound.

John Kenneth Galbraith, The Great Crash

posted by The Cunning Realist

JIM THE REALTOR

ALOHA !!

I love this guy's honesty!!! This is JIM THE REALTOR off YouTube ... He seems to enjoy touring crappy real estate in the San Diego region!

It seems "ice cream trucks" are thriving in San Diego!

Very funny moments ...

Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIpRuAC8KE8

Mark-to-model home lessons!

Its nice to see GROUND REPORTS like this! Makes me appreciate the farming life!

"Reflections of a Rubberneck"

I've taken a moment whilst I'm in cash to reflect upon my trading efforts for the year so that I can share with other newbie's, at least a few of which might be embarrassed to share their learning efforts with the hardened, battle-worn crew here, and can in the process archive these thoughts using Bill's server. It will also permit me to communicate the practicalities of trading to my numerous cousins, who all think I'm nuts and that trading is a scam.

First thoughts are that I've completely changed my idea of what long-term investing is. I had bought commodities in October (SLT for example) and watched it free fall into November. I had used Bill's call for bullishness on Nov. 21 (or around then) to average down and sell these holdings, flat or with minor loss, and withdrew the last of my funds to tie us over on our trip to NZ. Long-term investing in this environment now means a couple of weeks max.

I recharged my account during February to the tune of 8500 francs. A calculation made just now on my broker's charges for 28 trades made in the last 7 weeks adds to 834 USD or 29 USD average per trade. Given the USD 15% plus average strength against the Swiss Franc it's clear that these clowns have taken over 10% of potential profit in charges. I'm flabbergasted. That is to say that if I had been using Interactive Broker, who might have charged 10% of this in commissions, I'd have around 750 USD in additional capital or slightly more than 10% return on capital, as opposed to the 2% return I have now. It pays to know how your broker is making out compared to yourself - and mine is making out like a bandit.

Bobbyo pointed out the poor risk/reward ratio in these transactions, and suggested that I should cease trading immediately with swissquote. I'm of the opinion that trading through swissquote has been an awesome challenge (and I don't mean awesome as in cool) and it has obliged me to think about how I trade - in this case with a tendency towards swing trades. What has made trading even more difficult, is that switzerland bans ETF trading via internet. The couple of occasions that I dabbled in TBT cost me 50 USD per transaction (and I still made a profit on that sucker!). I am so looking forward to accessing 2X and 3X leveraged ETF's in the near future. After all, why take the risk of holding a bad apple like C as I did, during difficult and unpredictable periods like this, when perfectly good trading vehicles that capture the movement of a collective (like financials) can be traded inter-day and with leverage to boot!

Before anyone has a go at me for dabbling in "casino capitalism" know that these ETF's were developed by the house (i.e., the big banks) and have a tendancy to erode in value if held for the longer term. Big banks certainly know this and probably count on it when they create these leveraged funds (a little caveat for my family).

Since returning from NZ I have put Bill and Vad's book in my hot little hand and thoroughly recommend both. Although anyone who may have read Graham's "Intelligent Investor" can let up on the first half of Bill's book, I'm now up to part 4 - specialities to trade. We've heard a lot of straddles and strangles, puts and covered calls on this forum and I am certainly eager to profit from them. Bill covers these trading strategies and I will certainly turn my attention to the relevant chapters once I'm settled in with IB.

Vad's book is a must have for those wishing to trade seriously. My learning curve is accelerating thanks to "The Master Profit Plan". An example is the couple of bad trades I was holding were quickly realised with this book. They were thinly traded and prone to serious (downward) slippage. Learning this allowed me to dump them without too great a loss during this rally. I also pulled Vad's stock screener off his site for a test run. Although it remains an overwhelming experience to have all this information flooding various windows at the same time, if I was to try scalping or swing trading one or two stocks a day then homing in on one or two potentials would become less difficult.

Friday was the first time I used the stop loss feature in my trading. Watching C at the opening gave me the impression that the rally was slowing and so I placed a hard stop - generous enough at 10c - and returned home to find that I had been washed out. Floor traders scam - I dunno. But my first use of a hard stop wasn't an overwhelming experience, especially when C returned to close near flat at the end of trading. But the intuition to use a hard stop saved me from a potentially nastier loss (as I was away from the pc) if the market hadn't rallied in the afternoon, so a hard-stop certainly has its place. Ceasing all employment soon will help resolve some of these issues.

Finally, this is the second time that Bill has called the rally at the appropriate time and yet I find myself already invested. The key theme remains: TIMING, TIMING, TIMING and DISCIPLINE. I could have comfortably made 50% on those bank shares I was holding if I had watched the charts and volume and waited for support, instead of buying the first morning that the banks plummeted and thinking I was getting a good deal - by the afternoon it was clear to me I had sold myself short. I did make use of judicious doubling down to lower the average cost, recognising that BAC's valuation was being dragged through the mud as much as C's was and a rally was in the offing sooner or later. A little more confidence in the rally wouldn't have hurt either. I sold of BAC and SLW short of their full potential - but it doesn't hurt to be cautious and not look the gift horse in the mouth.

Still, capital preservation remains rule numero uno and I managed to divest myself of everything on Friday with enough change for a good bottle. So far, not so bad.

Next move, Interactive Brokers.

Bon Dimanche.

Re: awareness isn't truth

So when the going gets tough, I run off to Wiki:

"Pu is seen as keeping oneself in the primordial state of tao. It is believed to be the true nature of the mind, unburdened by knowledge or experiences. In the state of pu, there is no right or wrong, beautiful or ugly. There is only pure experience, or awareness, free from learned labels and definitions. It is this state of being that is the goal of following wu wei."

So before Wiki, I thought awareness was a consciousness of your own faith and perception rules and how they impact your receipt of facts, but now maybe I think awareness is achieved by letting go of faith and interpretation and simply experiencing what is happening now without judgement or preconceptions to interfere.

Certainly, faith in the following things have diminished greatly recently:
* the markets go up 10% per year, on average
* the rule of law in the US financial system
* housing prices always go up
* our elected officials more or less represent our interests

Major changes in these long-held articles of faith by the US public will have dramatic, long term consequences.

Is that what you meant by the rules are changing? Raising my awareness will happen when I reduce the effects of my faith and interpretations, and I will be able to see what's really happening more or less clearly and unfiltered, and will be able to be less surprised and more able to select a more likely optimal response?

I mean, this basically boils down to Question Authority - but your inner authority, not the external one.

[edit: Bill said in his Saturday review, "When you have an open mind and no preconceived notions, it is much easier to get into rhythm with the market, seeing the impulse moves before they happen, no directional bias to cloud your judgment." That sounds suspiciously like awareness.]

MORE JIM TV

ALOHA !!

This is unreal ... You have to watch this one!!!

CHULA VISTA for $1.8miluSD!!! PLEASE-E-E-E !!! Who are these people buying this crap?

Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_F7l3_6KCo&NR=1

One million dollars off!

I guess I must be spoiled by Hawaii, but you'd have to pay me to live in CHULA VISTA! Much less pay $1.8mil!!!

This is proof your real estate is worth as much as the cheapest house on the block! Judging from JIM TV in San Diego, anyway, that could all change in one day!

$1.8mil down to $585k ...

What I am seeing in this down real estate market is that the GREED is still alive and well!!

BANK AMERICA UNWINDING
Here ... I used to go surfing in Leucadia, CA and Carlsbad and all over San Diego. Here JIM THE REALTOR shows us what Bank America is into!

Hey Bank America where's you "community spirit" gone to?

Link: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mo00zOpijnk&NR=1

$2mil homes with Bank America in the neighborhood making the place look like the BRONX! What will those homes be worth in a couple years? Who's still flipping homes for $2mil?

Hummmm????

Sunday Morning Coffee

http://ronsen.blogspot.com/2009/03/sunday-morning-...

- Roubini

Charts
- Housing
- Consumer discretionary
- Panera
- Intercontinental Exchange
- Trade Universe Matrix

Bernanke on 60 Minutes tonight. Caveat Emptor.

Re: awareness isn't truth

Casey,

It seems to me we can (need to?) take this to one more level using your same three elements — perception, fact and faith.

If we are taking an action, such as investing or trading, we must consider how the mass of people (herd) views each of these and to what degree.

Ultimately, regardless of our assessment, will must live with the fact of whatever the result of those elements brings to us.

Time constraints may make it all into a coin toss situation (blind faith?) and then deal with the result

Re: Sunday Morning Coffee/Columbo

"And after a while markets are again “shocked shocked” (to paraphrase the French police inspector in Casablanca) to discover that the macro news are much worse than expected in the US and abroad.."

Roubini makes a good point. An understanding of human nature/psychology (be it innate or learned) is invaluable when investing. Successful investigators have it, successful politicians have it. Successful traders have it. Successful gamblers, which is what investors have become, need it. We are all surprised from time to time. To be shocked, on the other hand, means you're playing the wrong game.

Not to make light of anyone's situation, but it does not surprise me to read about Madoff/Stanford investors expressing shock. The shock indicates an inability/unwillingess to understand what we are all capable of doing to one another (and have been doing to one another since the beginning of mankind). Whereas the investigators in the case, like Columbo, are merely amused.

Funny thing came across my inbox...

A few months ago, I pointed out how one of the causes of the mortgage mess had it's roots in political pressure on behalf of "sub-prime" borrowers, which can be a codeword for a series of classes.

I was, of course, pilloried by certain factions.

I then stated, that the purpose of raising the issue was to analyze the issue-it is what it is, and unwillingness to question our own sacred cows, is not only intellectually dishonest, but imo-is a character failure.

This comes from a 1999 NY Times article-not known as a right wing bastion:

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9c0...

I'd say it speaks for itself...

As a follow up to the need to question: Chuangtse writes in his essay, "The Scope of Ancient Philosophy,"

"Many philosophers emphasize one particular aspect and hold on to it. It is like a person whose senses function properly each in its own field, but do not co-operate with one another, or again like the artisans of different trades who are good each in his own line and ar often needed. However, without an adequate comprehension of the whole, these are but one-alley scholars....Each man thinks what he likes and creates his own system. Alas, gone astray are the various schools of philosophy, without being able to find their way back. They shall never find the truth...philosophy is thus cut up and falls short."

We each have a personal philosophy-we are our own philosopher, and damn it, mine is right! Yet if we read Chuangtse's words, even the most capable among us fall short. How many of us had a "philosophy" on how the market works, and then found Bill? And Bill is the first to own up to his variances.

So, we cut up this problem and blame Wall Street, or rating agencies, or mortgage companies, or gasp...Republicans!

Yet, when we look deep into the problem we see signs of two of the oldest industries: class/race warfare, two of the biggest money making/vote getting industries in politics-politicians putting pressure on the industry to increase risk. What a surprise. And it originates in a...shhhhhhh...a democratic adminstration.

Now is this the whole problem...no, it is a piece of the whole, but in the attempt to do "good" much bad came out of it, and we're all paying for it.

Unless we are willing to constantly question our sacred cows, our "noble" beliefs, we are driven by pride and arrogance, pure and simple...or as the Taoist priest who trained me would say, "Nemo, pull your head out of your ass, and take the mirror you're admiring yourself with out too!"

Bye the way, the simple fact that I write this missive is my ego in action...so take it with a grain of salt (arguably, in my case, a pound).

A matter of perspective

As pointed out/asked above, I believe by Kaimu, was this part of a expression of social engineering designed to benefit low income voters (I object to specifying what they *look* like, they were/are all poor and had no credit or business buying, good enough) and make them part of the base....or was the entire Bush administration a giant ponzi scheme designed to fleece the entire American public driving everything possible into sivs, cdo's, etc. etc. etc. and having privatized SS....capture IT ALL?

I'm a big enough cynic to go with the bigger lie.
WAY BIGGER.

I think they used our sacred cows as a scam. I seriously doubt anyone was trying to do any good (for anyone else), except for their own wallets.

THIS is human nature. The truth is brutal.

Planet of the Apes

For entertainment.....watch "planet of the Apes" then watch FETV (especially CNBC and FOX) and try to ascertain the difference.

We are primates struggling to assert our own personal control (some of us have very little in the big picture), and this is the tension Caraistas are feeling. You can read it here and you can see it as political forces try to sway us and events to THEIR benefit.

Peter "Puck" Pocklington in hot water as well

http://www.vancouversun.com/business/Oilers+owner+...
The former owner of the Edmonton Oilers was just bailed out of jail by Glen Sather, these guys just dont get it, its only 10:30 in the morning and im already sick to my stomach.

Re: Funny thing came across my inbox...

nemo - I was, of course, pilloried by certain factions.

Hehe you felt pilloried. I, one who disagreed with you, simply felt you were not correct! For me, its not a moral issue at all. It just seemed implausible class/race was a primary driver behind the problem.

Re-reading your post today, I notice you didn't imply "primary cause", but rather, you say it was "one of the causes." I can completely get on board that statement.

I do think that class/race issues had an effect, mainly because it was a good fig-leaf for the Dems, and so they were able to accept those campaign contributions from F&F with a "clear conscience." It was a very clever cover story for F&F to get both sides of the aisle on their side to clear the way for their GSE hedge fund machine to run full speed, insured by the hapless taxpayer. So certainly we could agree that it had an impact by disarming objections from the Dems via that fig-leaf.

However, the picture I got before, that hapless banks were forced, forced I say, by class/race drivers from that crazy Clinton guy, to make extremely profitable loans to subprime borrowers, just seemed awfully unlikely.

To me, looking for the most casual factor, I come up with greed. The loans were extremely profitable. That's why so many people worked so hard to make so many of them. Short term bonuses, easy money, a fast buck. A story as old as humanity.

So now I would say, 90% greed, 10% race/class fig-leaf as a cynical (but necessary) cover story.

Re: Monday/herding nonsense.

EDC —"We built a quarter century of homes in 5 years and we sold a quarter century of homes to first time home buyers during that period too... All demand was pulled from the future from easy money. Also prices were raised and supported by easy credit, not in fact by production or higher wages.

The same applies to autos and I suspect most consumer discretionary products. Businesses may upgrade computers only if no alternative, but who need more capacity or speed in this market? Consumers will slack off for sure. Perhaps only the youngest, least affected in lost savings and most in tune with the latest fad will buy.

IMO, the bailout and stimulus are just pretend events. Unless/until people are confident of their personal economic situation, there will be no return to a 70% consumer supported US economy. We need to make things we can sell to other countries. This is "change (for the better) I can believe in."

proudPapa — "I'd add that the house bought year or two ago for $370K with equivalents being sold for $300K will likely not see a true market value of $370 again for many, many years."

Which is only a problem if you want to or must move. If, as Rick Santelli pointed out, you bought the house to live in, the current market price is not relevant.

re: The Looting Continues — Our largest local bank with a long term good reputation now has a growing number of non-producing loans. Their stock (which my 90-tear-old neighbor owns) dropped from $32 to $0.85 over the last two years — this week on an up move to $1.41 they announced bonuses are being paid to "keep their valuable managers."

Mark Barry — "I don't want the government to do anything for me other than the basics. Police, fire, education, defense, etc."

Like many cities ours is facing a budget shortfall due to lost businesses, layoffs and lower tax base. The fire dept. will be cut from four to three men per truck and police will work 50% more hours per shift. We will continue to bus kids to school for racial balance, and increase public bus fairs 25 to 50%. For those who can't afford a car this will be a major cost increase.

Stupidity reigns supreme.

Re: A matter of perspective

I think the social net ponzi scheme was probably conceived with good intentions, but the burden of actually funding it was too much. Heck, the burden of funding almost anything in govt was too much, which is why they dropped the gold standard. Look what happened since: explosion of credit which is the root of explosion of GDP and explosion of tax revenues. That's the true ponzi scheme, it's more than just SS or medicair. It's the whole system. Wasn't meant to be, but the money was just too easy. How's that for cynical?

Re: Agapov in trouble - Rusoro

Truly sorry to hear this, jock. Now which thief will end up with the loot? Chávez, predictably enough. We can expect that will soon declare Rusoro unfit to be a partner of the Boliviarian State of Venezuela and proceed to take over the mine in the name of socialism, demonstrating yet again that "he who has the gold makes the rules".

By the way, I neglected to mention in my last response to you that in fact Ecuador's most recent default on sovereign debt occurred three months ago, announced by the President himself. Not a case of "can't pay, won't pay", but rather "can pay, don't feel like it". Yet again.

I stand by all my previous warnings.

This is my job, my city, whats left of it

This Dylanesque number was inspired by a poem from a child of one of my Local 1005 Brothers. It is a tribute to all the US STEEL/ STELCO laidoff workers, and to laidoff ,unemployed workers everywhe...

http://www.youtube.com:80/watch?v=ke8UT1X7K6k

Re: Russia, Venezuela,Rusoro

I just checked and FNM is yielding $0.02 (47.60%)!

That might give some pause with most equities :-)

Re: A matter of perspective

I agree with your view except for one alteration — this pre-dates (but certainly includes) the Bush administration.

The removal of regulations dates back at least to Reagan, and most legislators in both parties complied with changes such as the removal of Glass-Steagall and the boosting of margins from 20:1 to 40:1, and the paying of Fannie Mae management and board a percentage of loans made.

Don't let Pelosi pass the hot potato (+e if Dan is reading) to the most recent DC crew.

Re: Monday/herding nonsense.

Good morning Grym- I enjoy reading your posts. Sorry, I must be a little slow this morning because I don't understand the connection you are implying with my post.

"Mark Barry — "I don't want the government to do anything for me other than the basics. Police, fire, education, defense, etc."

Like many cities ours is facing a budget shortfall due to lost businesses, layoffs and lower tax base. The fire dept. will be cut from four to three men per truck and police will work 50% more hours per shift. We will continue to bus kids to school for racial balance, and increase public bus fairs 25 to 50%. For those who can't afford a car this will be a major cost increase."

Thanks.

uptick rule

Does anyone know whether the SEC ever announced WHY they dropped the uptick rule which was originally adopted in 1938 to prevent bear raids? Who asked for it to be dropped? What was the thinking?

Thank you.

U.S. Mint Suspends Gold and Silver Coin Production

Physical supplies must be really getting tight...

Production of United States Mint American Eagle Gold Proof and Uncirculated Coins has been temporarily suspended because of unprecedented demand for American Eagle Gold Bullion Coins. Currently, all available 22-karat gold blanks are being allocated to the American Eagle Gold Bullion Coin Program, as the United States Mint is required by Public Law 99-185 to produce these coins “in quantities sufficient to meet public demand . . . .”

The United States Mint will resume the American Eagle Gold Proof and Uncirculated Coin Programs once sufficient inventories of gold bullion blanks can be acquired to meet market demand for all three American Eagle Gold Coin products. Additionally, as a result of the recent numismatic product portfolio analysis, fractional sizes of American Eagle Gold Uncirculated Coins will no longer be produced.

http://tinyurl.com/bwbkdj

Re: TRIPOLI

I believe this may refer to the Mexican War when we ended up "buying" Texas, New Mexico, Arizona and California (with an offer they couldn't refuse) after the capture by US forces of the Hall of Montezuma near Mexico City in 1848 or there abouts.

A looongg occupation, which Mexico is gradually taking back now.

Re: Agapov in trouble - Rusoro

everyman, birds of a feather flock together, i believe that this is the type of person the Chavez feels totally comfortable with, being a dubious character is viewed as a positive, and no doubt that Chavez and his kind will end up with all the gold and money in the name of revolution, mean while with the new legislatioin passed last month he can now run for a third term. This all reminds me of an episode from Gilligans Island where Gilligan dreamed that he deposed of a banana republic leader and then hired him on as an advisor, and while standing on a balcony of a palace he was addressing the masses and turned to the old leader and asked him what should he say to the crowd, the old leader replied, " Promise them this, that and the other thing ". The next scene was that the old leader now lead a coup against Gilligan. At least Gillagan finally woke up from his dream, if it was only that easy.
On a personal note, with US Steel announcing the temporary shutdown of our facility it has started to affect my trading, i just couldnt pull the trigger on what would have been two very profitable trades with FAS and SLW, the setup was there and yet in the back of my mind all i could think about was that i could lose, even with tight stops in place to minimize it. I try to play Billy Ball and supplement my Unemployment with the trading and have done quite nicely since November, maybe i just needed some time off like 2nd, give my head a shake and clear my mind. I guess i am one of the fortunate ones at my old place of employment, i was and am financially responsible, always paid myself first, will pay my house off for a second time this May after a brutal divorce, avoided any unnecessary debt and still have enough left over to survive for some years to come even if i dont work. I have so many positives going for me and keep trying to tell myself this but i guess once the safety net of a job is removed it really can play havoc with the mind. T-bar, thank you for the kind words in your e-mail this week and glad to hear your doing well.

Interesting week coming up...

1st: Friday is OPEX [Quadruple Witching]

2nd: There is an expectancy that we start to drop this week. Seems like everyone including John Murphy of Stockchart.com [see his Friday message] is looking for the final wave down to happen very soon which would be the completion of wave 3 down that started in May 2008. Of course if we pass SP 800 then we may have put in the bottom March 6th. But Friday XLF did not close above its weekly trend line so that has folks leaning toward a drop. Like I said this will be an "intersting week".

If anyone is interested in Dr McHugh thoughts here is a copy of his weekend summary letter. http://tinyurl.com/as4jlo

Rest up because someone this week bull or bear maybe losing sleep!

:-)

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Re: A matter of perspective

Craig
It was just a clinical trial in economy, I don't know what phase it was in. result told us it did not work. Now they will try something else to see if it works.
We never are going to give up trying until we find right medicine. That how I believe it.

re uptick rule

Please ignore my request for info. Did my own search. The SEC commissioned a study that found the rule was unnecessary. Why put money into a study? Not explained. And the study was conducted in 2005/07 - the bubble was in full swing and shorts were "getting slaughtered." Good move, SEC.

is there a downtick rule?

Why should there be an uptick rule before shorting?

I DO understand the need to stop "naked shorting", i.e. shorting when shares are not ever borrowed. But, shouldn't a market be equally "frictionless" in either direction? Otherwise, how do you get unbiased price discovery?

If they restore the uptick rule, shouldn't they simultaneously introduce a "downtick rule" before taking a long position?

It didn't matter who you were...

Rich, old, poor, whatever, they were out to get everybody. I had a mortgage scammer call me and get angry when I refused his refi...it was such a good deal how could I refuse?

The trouble with this course of blaming the law for forcing "banks" to loan to sub-prime, is that not all "banks" were subject to this law.

Many more banks, thrifts, fly by night mortgage brokers, etc. *unaffected* by the law made way more sub-prime loans *countrywide*, than the banks subject to the law because the feeding frenzy and extreme profits surrounding/involving all the various interested "businesses"(?) selling, appraising, packaging, repackaging, consolidating, servicing, or scamming investors with mortgages in one form or another.

If the law didn't force them, then what was their motivation if it wasn't greed?

You are right Grym

My apologies, yes, it pre-dated Bush.

As Kaimu cautions, it's a two party aristocracy.

Remember, the choices were supposed to be McCain and Clinton. IOW, more of the same HB&B control. Obama was unforseen by the rightful dictate, and didn't we get a front row seat to that fight? The girl didn't have any quit because it was supposed to be hers by divine right!

It's not lost on me that Greenspan was as buddy-buddy with Clinton (if not more so) than any Republican Pres.

Kaimu's earlier posts from today are right in line....

Re: Interesting week coming up/Wave 3

QT-

(a) I like the premise underlying Elliott Wave, as I believe in recurring (and thus predictable) patterns in crowd psychology.

(b) I also believe that the value of recurring and predictable patterns diminishes with recognition. For instance, buying any ticker symbol getting hyped on CNBC used to be a good day trade. Then it shifted to buying related ticker symbols in the same sector. Then it shifted to fading all of the above. How does a highly-anticipated completion of Wave 3 play out?

(c) Following from (b), I actually like the fact that EW followers are few and far between. That fact alone supports its use.

(d) Finally, Barnum's observation that "there's a sucker born every minute" simply reflects the fact that all patterns recur due to the inability of humans to learn from history (even their own). Human nature is a funny thing.

Re: re uptick rule

Tango,

I don't know what kind of significance you assign to this, I am pretty sure there is none. Uptick rule has been of more or less noticeable inconvenience for shorts during fraction times. It became practically irrelevant when the market switched to decimals and when trading softwares incorporated "chase above the bid" feature.

Re-introduction of this rule now is nothing but a populist measure with no real outcome. If outright banning of the shorting hasn't changed anything in the fall of 2008, this very minor tweak won't be even noticed.

If you are questioning whether there was some sinister motive behind the move and it was to benefit some of the "men behind the curtains", history will disagree with it. Rule, while existed in fractions environment, caused frequent complaints. Most of those complaints were about an uneven playing field - uptick rule existed for the unwashed masses, you see, not for market makers who could short freely. So if anyone's benefited from repelling it, it was a small trader/investor. When the markets switched to decimals, nobody cared at all anymore. Even the reaction on the rule abolishment was so muted, you wouldn't believe it was a hot potato for so many years.

Speaking of Madoff: HNU.to

Madoff's mistake was doing it illegally. He should have simply started an ultra-natural gas fund, and positioned his clients short. Would have made more money, and legally.

2nd

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Re: Interesting week coming up/Wave 3

Isn't that always the question with TA? It rarely plays out exactly as planned, and may not at all, but there are so many cross-factors to take into account on this one, the Nov low, the volume there and how much resistance there will be at each area of resistance...or even if it gets that far.
Then the Fib levels, followers of EW, Gann, astrology and voodoo.

I just pull back a little (say a few months) and notice the trend is still down and this is a bear rally to be traded until it doesn't work as anticipated. That will likely be at one of these TA resistance areas because there are enough followers/practitioners to make it a reality.

You know there will be naysayers if we don't re-test the latest 666 level, and how can we resist? So you could take either side.

Would I be more of a sucker to chase a low volume rally in hopes it's a bottom (a REAL Bearded Lady? an Elephant Man? NO! Really?) and get trapped by that pattern, then to wait for confirmation of a trend change (or more extended rally) to lessen that chance and miss a few points? That's my dilemma.

Re: awareness isn't truth

I thought awareness was a consciousness of your own faith and perception rules and how they impact your receipt of facts,

It's actually a process of release, leaving one in a space of clarity from which actions flow to wu wei

But that's the Taoist version of how to do this. As I mention countless other methods exists on how to tap into that state of being.

I stress answers at this stage are highly personal also in how to embrace the process of release.

Re: awareness isn't truth

Is that what you meant by the rules are changing? Raising my awareness will happen when I reduce the effects of my faith and interpretations, and I will be able to see what's really happening more or less clearly and unfiltered, and will be able to be less surprised and more able to select a more likely optimal response?

That is one of the consequences of what I said. Keeping in mind what I said has many variations of this and other consequences / impacts to how one lives and sees their life.

YTD review

2nd, Swiss- I started to work on my YTD analysis Fri. night. I wanted to get an accurate look at my trading activity, both positive and negative. All of the following is based on my entire portfolio, zeroing out, analytically, positions held over from last year and all percentages include cash holdings.
TYD I am +9.12%. Last year, buy and hold theory mostly, I was down about 22%. After reviewing all of my trades I have noticed the following:
Most of my trades miss the initial move up, and exit prior to the top. These trades have been a large net positive for me.
Holding a large % in cash has also been a net positive. I have been able to side step a lot of damage.
The last time I chased a winner and lost, of course, was in the middle of January.
Took 2 big losses when stops were placed to tight. I now realize these positions were far to large.
Averaged down on 10 trades with mixed results. Basically a wash.
This past week I was only net + 3.3%.
Took a lot off the table late Friday. Hoping to re-enter on an early pull back Monday morning. Of course, that all depends on 60 minutes. Frankly, I don't expect any fireworks.
Positive and negative comments by all greatly appreciated.

uptick rule

Many thanks Vadym. I thought, simplistically I suppose, that the uptick rule would make it more difficult for unscrupulous market makers to conduct a bear raid - to artificially drive down the price of a fundamentally good stock by shorting it massively, until they broke all the stops and drove out all the weak positions. When that was accomplished, they could then scale back into the stock at an artificially low price, gaining a long position at a fraction of the cost.

Why not the same protection on the upside? Completely different thing. Stocks are supposed to go up. You are not going to drive out the weak (Ma and Pa) players by unfairly driving up the price of a stock.

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Re: uptick rule

It's a bit more complicated than that...

First, in order to drive the price down artificially a player must sell - out of his inventory or by shorting. This involves risk - no one is that big that he could go against the whole market. If the whole move down is done solely by our player's selling, he will be lucky to get out even when he starts buying it back. It can be done by clever using of the leverage - meaning, apply the least of the force (minimizing your exposure, thus minimizing the risk) at the right moment and in the right way, creating certain impression and provoking certain reaction. If he is successful in doing that, his own selling will be limited to the beginning of the downward move only, and then the rest of the players fooled by him will complete the majority of the move by their own selling, while our player will be sitting on a sideline and waiting for the move to get exhausted. This is high art of trading. If he is that skillful, his reward will be well deserved. You'll find examples of this kind of manipulations in some of accounts of Jesse Livermore trading assignments in his later years when he was hired to engineer stock advances. In today's markets it can be done on more or less serious scale in thin markets only.

Second, on the upward direction... it's not much different really. You say "You are not going to drive out the weak (Ma and Pa) players by unfairly driving up the price of a stock" - right, but you can attract them in by unfairly driving up the price of the stock and then leave them to hold the bag - which is exactly what happens in so many cases, and is not any different from shaking them out.

It's also not really easy to define "fair" or "unfair" price of the stock. Is GERN's move to above 10 couple weeks ago fair? Is UAUA's current price fair? DRYS's? DELL's? INTC's? Look at BAC swings - where that "fair" is? It's all just a process of the price discovery, and this is dynamic process - market mood changes, information changes, perception and interpretation of information changes... and it all is called "the market"...

Re: Monday/herding nonsense.

proudPapa — "I'd add that the house bought year or two ago for $370K with equivalents being sold for $300K will likely not see a true market value of $370 again for many, many years."

Which is only a problem if you want to or must move. If, as Rick Santelli pointed out, you bought the house to live in, the current market price is not relevant.

But even if you bought it to live in, what if you were coaxed into a loan you couldn't afford, paying a fraudulently appraised value to inflate brokers/banks commission, and are now burdened by excessive monthly payments? Sure you bought it to live in, not as an investment, but you were sold the hype that prices always go up, i.e. house prices and more importantly labor prices (wages).

The hype is now exposed as a lie. The house wasn't an investment, but it is now a burden. I just think people have to be willing to put their family first and walk away if it's the right thing to do. Who gets screwed? The banks or MBS holder. True, other houses on the block get marked down in value and unfortunately, many of them will need to evaluate their own situation and possibly make the same decision.

In the long run what will happen? House prices will crash, a lot of houses will sit empty, investors will buy them from banks for cheap and rent them out at reasonable rates. People who walked away will be able to rent for far less than what their mortgage payments were, and eventually maybe buy a house with a reasonable mortgage.

The real problem is that it's a chain reaction and really almost no one will escape unscathed. That's what govt is trying to avoid. But rents/mortgages need to be inline with wages, which seem to be dropping, so govt will ultimately fail in my opinion.

First rule of panic is to panic first. Why throw another dime more than you have to into banks coffers by paying an outsized mortgage? Save those dimes, find cheap rent and prepare to start over on more solid footing than people who wait, hoping for some solution from govt.

Re: awareness isn't truth

Thanks Casey.

At the very least, when you say the word "awareness" now, I'll have a better idea of what you mean. I sort of suspected from the way you said it, the word meant a whole lot more than usual. And now this has me considering what are my own (hidden) articles of faith.

Re: awareness isn't truth

[edit: Bill said in his Saturday review, "When you have an open mind and no preconceived notions, it is much easier to get into rhythm with the market, seeing the impulse moves before they happen, no directional bias to cloud your judgment." That sounds suspiciously like awareness.]

Yes very much so :) its very Taoist also.

Re: Funny thing came across my inbox...

Nice nemo :)

Re: awareness isn't truth

Hi Grym

The way I teach this

We each view the world from Inner truth (from our heart) and Outer truth all the larger outside universe shaping us from outside in.

The two balance each other out to give us form / shape.

So your thoughts are also correct in that you are considering outer truth. I find it simpler to work inside out since you can control and know your own heart. It's a bit harder to work outside in (consider the masses of people) since more variables and sources of misdirection are involved.

Casey

Notice there has been a lot talk about Taoism here lately. I am just curious, from your belief system what do you tell someone who is near death or the love ones after they have lost someone dear?

Re: Monday/herding nonsense.

ProudPapa - "In the long run what will happen? House prices will crash, a lot of houses will sit empty, investors will buy them from banks for cheap and rent them out at reasonable rates."

Or, entire "targeted" neighborhoods could be bought in large blocks, completely dismantled and/or converted for uses TBD by the new investment firms.

Re: is there a downtick rule?

jock,

I was going to write the exact same comment. great post.

the Uptick rule isn't the problem, again it is not the disease it is a symptom of the social confusion.

Should you only be allowed to buy stocks on down ticks?

Since they trade in pennies, as long as there is no naked short selling there is no need for an uptick rule.

Smoke and mirrors... see how well banning short selling worked out?

Re: M2M - Bloomberg

Mark

I hear what your saying too... Here is something that we could and should consider which in fact is not a warm and fuzzy feeling.

It is almost apparent that our economic growth for the past 20-30 years has been based on nothing more than shuffling paper... right? We produced nothing more than debt and military expenditures (i am a military guy by the way).

Our growth of shuffling paper, attracted capital from abroad the world. This capital allowed and help fuel out GDP growth and of course our population was growing, both organically and from immigration (legal or illegal it still grew).

This growth of capital and also with population, required more social service jobs to be created.

Now back to your comment..
"Yes, I know it is going to be hard, but we must take all of the pain right now, on my watch. Sorry Firefighters, teachers, Police officers, pension funds, college endowments, charities, 401k holders. I know this is not your fault. But all of your holdings are soon to become worthless."

Here is the problem with our society. For some gosh darn reason, the river only goes one way, down stream. This isn't helping any and what I mean is those firefighters, teachers, police officers got their jobs because of the 30 year economy of shuffling paper. Maybe that isn't a direct reason but in terms of capital inflows and distribution/creation of wealth. The opportunities they got could be derived from economic growth of shuffling paper. In terms of those employees of the state, have they offered to take a pay cut? (some are underpaid, yes I/we know that)... I have heard that, instead it is either give us money to employ our employees or we will be upset. Very valid reason to be upset however aren't we all in this together?
We must realize that the river doesn't alwasy have to go downstream.

As far as the Pensions, endowments, charities and 201k holders. We all got burned by this, no more bickering. Calpers speculated on real estate at and near the top. Endowments thought that the LBO and alternative investment arena was as great idea as it out preformed equities late after it crashed. The run up from the late 90s and from 03-07 wasn't based on true growth of an economy.

One of the ways that will help us get out of this mess is realize this... Just because things yesterday seemed grand and good does not mean that we need that same grand and good feeling for tomorrow.

We peaked, unfortunately the ride to the bottom is much faster than the top. Prices, wages must go down, sacrifices must go up.

That message is about the last thing that TPTB are telling us... No leadership, none. Instead now they are telling us things aren't that bad and everything is actually better than we thought. Of course we will have a false dawn but math will eventually rule. 1 and 1 always equals two. Wall street has hid that answer from us for a long time, in a matter of time they won't be able to get away with it.

Re: 2nd

QT- A picture is worth a thousand words, I see where you're coming from. 3 or 5 = dead or alive-> unfortunately, for buy-and-hold portfolios, that's pretty much what it means.

Re: This is my job, my city, whats left of it

I hear you, man. I sat in that kangaroo court with your Brothers from Local 1005 and watched a great company and a great city being stripped.

Bankruptcy ha! The bandits and their gang of lawyers engineered a take-down of one of the great Cdn companies that was having the banner 18 months of its long existence, not being in arrears with any banker, employee, vendor, bondholder or shareholder on the day a phony CEO, and a phony re-organization officer walked bankruptcy papers into a phony courtroom. The judge walked away from the mess with the cherry posting of his career, senior counsel to the law firm that took Stelco down, the biggest law firm in the country. How much did the American Mott take home from this scam? $70 million for less than two years work? How much did the bandits remove in assets like the valuable iron ore royalties (marked to their idea of market, which in bankruptcy is original cost), before they sold the company for gazillions more than it cost to strip it?

Read the archives here. Read them and weep. Nobody who was uninvolved except me -- no axe to grind at all except personal values -- seemed to care. I smelled these rats from the very beginning.

At no time in my life in Canada did I see such a brazen theft and total disregard for the people they were stealing from. So, I hope these guys -- they know who they are -- go to their graves thinking how much hatred there is for them from so many victims. I hope they rot in hell. Better still, if there was an honest cop, they'd have to spend the rest of their lives in jail.

Well, those harbour lands in Hamilton should soon be turned into a nice park for the unemployed, while they watch the former Prime Minister's steamships move commodity cargo in and out of the new port.

Stelco was a great Canadian tragedy. It was the time when Canadians became widely aware their capital market was crooked from the very top down. Let no one forget, Brother.

Re: YTD review

Mark- How can you argue with +9.12% when the SPY is -16%?

Cash has been a winner, so you made the right move there-> side-stepping hits to the portfolio is no different from side-stepping hits on the field- ensures longevity.

Averaging down versus averaging up- I know there are strong opinions either way. It works for me most of the time, as (a) I normally begin averaging in on extreme negatitivity, (b) am quick to exit on strength, (c) limit position sizes, and (d) generally play sectors [where the odds of recovery are much higher] rather than single stocks [which may never recover].

I agree with your take on the highly-anticipated interview-> it's already been filmed, for crying out loud. Any significant revelations have already been priced in, probably at the expense of a few phone calls and a few hundred thousand dollars. How do I know? I have faith in human nature.

Re: Casey

Hi QT

Email me offline on this one.

A simple answer

Death is not to be fear, it's a transition back into life, but our perspective makes it feel like a boundary, like at the ocean you see an edge, but the curvature of the earth just puts the rest of the world out of view. Death is a similar experience.

I wrote the following in my book

In life we pretend to be many things. It’s imagination in action as living.

Death is the time for us to return to our true nature, when a person no longer pretends to be anything other than themselves.

Death isn’t an ending of our paths. The moment of death is timeless and the turning point of consciousness; it’s when consciousness can touch the entirety of life. In touching our entire nature we can stop pretending and *sigh* into the Tao.

As an aside
Our loved ones are always in our heart and never truly leave us either.

I hope this helps.

Peace my friend

WIR #11 is up

Now I can go to the beach and kick back.

Re: WIR #11 is up

Pierre's pdf's wont open up. I tried in Chrome and Firefox. PDF the software opens but the pages are blank.

Is this unique to me or others having similar issue?

Re: WIR #11 is up

They won't open for me either. I get an error message of "A number is out of range".

Re: WIR #11 is up

I'll have to get korvus to do this. I'm such a dunce when it comes to this stuff!

WIR attachment links are at the bottom of the report

When I just clicked on the attachment files at the bottom of the report, they worked for me. Opened without trouble. Let us know if they still don't work for you.

Re: WIR #11 is up

I also tried saving to my desktop and opened. still blank. No worries. I will just be patient.

Re: WIR #11 is up

Hmm, I'm only half way through the weekly review, and I must say it seems to have the most negative undertones I've seen in a while. Bill has often stated he has a glass half-full, but this snippet sounds kind of bleak to me:

"Short-covering, my friends, can make a bad market look awfully good. Until it doesn’t."

Re: WIR #11 is up

proudPapa, No negatives intended. I am just alerting people to the possibility that once the forced short-covering is over, there could be more selling. The market is at a crucial level here in terms of many technical indicators and right on cue on Friday the volume backed off. This is when you need to be extra alert. That's not a negative. That's a positive as I see it in terms of the info I am giving readers. The over-riding tone of this WIR was that nobody knows what's going to happen after the G-20 this weekend and two biggest central banks announce their decisions on Tuesday. So, don't get caught like a deer in the headlights; stand back and be prepared to take the action that you believe the market info is telling you. It can still go either way.

Re: WIR #11 is up

Re: WIR #11 is up

Mark - they didn't work for either. The attachments you included also don't open for me. Just blank pdf files.

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