[8:22am ET] These are busy days, so I’ll repeat a part of today’s Daily Report that I know you will be talking about.
Gold moved higher Thursday (GLD +0.85%) but as of yet has been unable to penetrate the Feb high. As you know, at short-term cycle lows recently, we hung in and then added to long positions in the gold and silver miners, calling for a spurt to 980-1000 for the gold price. Early this morning the market was touching the low end of that range. But while it took extra time for Gold to move, the Goldminer EFT (GDX +4.56%) has made new yearly highs, signaling it is ready to outperform the metal in future advances.
Keep in mind also the substantial increases of open interest in the out-of-the-money July gold calls. Somebody is wagering a lot of money that gold will break out above resistance over the next 6 weeks. If and when gold finally does overcome the 1000 dollar barrier, and hold it, chart patterns and earnings leverage of the gold stocks argue for +50% gains in these equities.
Our discipline, which has been well stated here, is to sell our long positions in the underlyings as and when the gold price moved into the 980-1000 range, and to buy the higher leveraged calls, while anticipating a short-term spike top. We started doing that in a minor way in the past two days as we anticipated the action that has now begun.
We will be very busy in the next day or two.
Have a good one.
Comments
RE: July gold calls
Sorry, but I cannot see the massive interest in July Gold calls. Looking at GLD, I see it in June @ 100.00
Anyone confirm the June/July difference?
TWO RATIOS AND THE FED
ALOHA !!
More GOLD TALK!
Two RATIOS to consider ...
HOME/GOLD RATIO
The average price of a home in America measured in gold ounces at the height of the last gold mania in 1980 was 90 ounces, now it costs 192 ounces. Back in 2001 a median single-family home cost 601 gold ounces. a decline of 68%.
CHART OF THE DAY
For example, it currently takes 192 ounces of gold to by the median single-family home. This is considerably less that the 601 ounces it took back in 2001. When priced in gold, the median single-family home is down 68% from its 2001 peak and remains within the confines of its four-year accelerated downtrend.
Link: http://www.chartoftheday.com/20090529.gif
DOW/GOLD RATIO
The gold price of the DOW is now at 8.62. It takes 8.62 gold ounces to buy the DOW(closed at 8403 with POG at $975). In 1980 the DOW/GOLD RATIO was at "1" ... In 1931 during the height of the Great Depression the ratio was at "2". If you look at a long term chart of the GOLD/DOW RATIO going back to 1900 the channel shows a lot of support at a ratio of "7.5" ... ALthough back in 1979 that channel broke down seriously at a ratio of "5" and then bottomed at "1" a year later.
DOW/GOLD RATIO link: http://tinyurl.com/yknlfw
In the space of 13 years from 1967 to 1980 the DOW/GOLD RATIO tanked from the peak in 1967 of 27.9 down to 1.0. The last peak was around 2000 at 43.7. Perhaps in 2013 we will see the bottom? The last few major peak intervals averaged 35 years. That would place the next DOW peak at 2035.
Its the battle between hard assets and paper assets ...
FED FUNDS RATE ANGLE
At what price would SMART MONEY exchange gold for paper(debt)? That was the question that Paul Volcker was faced with in 1979. Now 30 years later he is still faced with that same question. Back then he raised the Fed Funds to 20% in order to control the POG. What's current Fed Funds rate at? Its practically ZERO ... 0.18 ... Hummmmm????
No matter how you look at it the POG has to rise long term and then there is the geopolitical angle, which could cause some major short term spikes along the way. Right now I doubt there is much of any geopolitical factor in any markets, especially the DOW/NASDAQ.
Out of all the scenarios of doom and gloom being bantered about these days only one investment has never had to file BK simply because it never has a counterparty. There's the S&P AAA and then there's GOLD! We all have seen how sloppy the S&P has been with their AAA ... What bubble now has the latest sloppy S&P AAA? What CHANGE?
IT IS WHAT IT IS ...
Window Dressing Day for quarter end
Look for lots of window dressing today. Everything that has been strong will be up and everything that has been weak will be down. This will probably reverse itself on Monday. Should be an interesting day with stocks opening up (maybe near their highs for the day) and probably selling off near the end of the day IMHO. Volumes are still quite anemic from what I've seen
July Options
Les,
Check out the options on Miners, GDX, etc.
Green shoots...
You know, here on the farm there is only one thing that really grows greenshoots.....to be polite we call it fertilizer.
Repost from last night
looking for pointers on how to report sale of Rights on PDS (Precision Drilling) to IRS. Is it perhaps short term capital gain with cost basis of zero, dividend, or change in basis of underlying PDS common? Any help much appreciated.
Re: Green shoots...
ALOHA !!
HA!! Farmers know BS!
BELOW 80
ALOHA !!
USD below 80 ... AUD moving up against USD nicely today. Both are colliding at the 80 mark!
POG one year up over 11% according to Kitco ...
Re: Window Dressing Day for quarter end
Lori,
I've had the same idea stuck in my head the last week or so. However, don't we have another month to go until the end of Q2?
Cara 100 Update
DELL - Price Target Raised from $13 to $14 @ Credit Suisse. Outperform
ORCL - AmTech Research Initiates Coverage with a Buy. Price Target = $23
Re: Window Dressing Day for quarter end
That was my thought Mackinaw
Re: Repost from last night
The letter from PDS says it was ruled a dividend. I'm still asking my accountant.
Bond Bubble
Good Morning,
Could someone please clearly and concisely explain the so-called bond bubble, how it works, and its potential long term effects? Or direct me to source or post that has this info?
Thanks in advance for any responses.
gold...july calls... do you believe?
are there gold july calls or GLD july calls at 100?
wouldnt 100 in GLD translate to about $1010-1015 in gold futures?
gold
Bill (if you can "hear me",
I am currently reading your book and find it to be very insightful. Wish I had known about this website a year ago.
Both GLD and GDX have RSI's above 70 for the 7 day and 7 week and the 7 month is in the low 60's.
I understand that this tool alone should not be used to make decisions. Are circumstances such that would indicate that GLD and GDX are going to continue up sharply despite these indications?
Re: gold...july calls... do you believe?
+gldgv $1.80 open interest 16,675
Trading silver and gold
From my limited experiences in 2006, I recall many sharp spurts in the miners to the upside that would leave traders in the dust, which then continued shooting up beyond all expectations. Followed by sharp spikes down (sometimes gap downs) that would violently shake traders out. If you have large positions, you need to have your 'contingency plans' in place and execute quickly when the set-ups emerge. JMO.
Re: Repost from last night
Craig,
Thank you. I haven't received anything from the company, just a letter from Scottrade telling me to phone them with my decision on what to do with them. Perhaps a snail mail issue, but since I sold them already, no problem.
OCLS @ 4.16
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Cara 100 Update (Final)
DELL - estimates lowered at Wachovia through 2011. Company is seeing weaker corporate demand and is cutting prices. Outperform rating.
QCOM - initiated at Roth Capital. Initiated with a Hold rating and $44 price target. Introduces 2009 EPS estimates of $1.48
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Have a great weekend, everyone.
UNG @ 15.11
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Re: gold
Yes, newbee, I have been pointing out the very high RSI's for D and W for goldminers, but the M RSI-7 indicates to me that the long-term trend is going to be intact for quite some time. Short-term there is added risk here. We also are watching $GOLD and forex futures. If the USD starts to lift, then that would put pressure on the gold and goldminers. Other indicators to watch are (i) silver vs gold, as silver typically leads in a rising trend, (ii) gold producers like Goldcorp, Newmont, Kinross, Yamana, etc, vs bullion related fund stocks like CEF, as typically the leveraged miners lead in a rising trend, (iii) the heavier debt burdened companies and the revenue challenged penny stock exploration companies, which lag the first part of the rally but then take the lead late in the rally as traders get crazy with speculation, and start buying the stories that promoters sell them, and (iv) rising or falling volume in the group, especially high volume with flat prices, which indicate distribution by insiders or persons close to these companies who hear things that maybe they shouldn't if securities rules were closely followed. I could go on and on.
Whether it's goldminers or biotech or casinos or whatever, it will pay to understand the model that makes these stock groups move higher and lower. In time -- everything good takes time -- you will get more sophisticated in your trading if you focus, particularly if you make the decision to be in control of your decisions and not let the market, or promoters, or media, or salespersons tell you what and when to buy or sell.
Re: OCLS @ 4.16
2nd- I guessing your scalping, but I'm going to meet my friends that work there for drinks after work. I'll fill everyone in.
Re: OCLS @ 4.16
Mark- We're moving into the era of multi-resistant bugs. I think wound care will be a big deal. Not necessarily scalping here.
Re: gold
thanks for the explanation
LINE
Hit my $19.90 target that I set Apr 3. Re: Bill's excellent description of our trading time-frames (scalpers/swing-traders/investors), I definately fall in the latter category, willing to wait a year for a 25% gain. Problem is, with these markets it's taking only 1-2 months.
Re: OCLS @ 4.16
2nd- We already use the product for our family. Very effective, clean, etc. I'm interested in how they are going to set up their distribution in the USA. I'm guessing they will seek a partner.
Seek truth in volume
spy
Volume: 56,079,400
Avg Vol: 274,296,000
xlf
Volume: 31,475,857
Avg Vol: 196,734,000
amzn
Volume: 1,004,009
Avg Vol: 8,253,000
goog
Volume: 583,626
Avg Vol: 3,538,000
aapl
Volume: 3,768,051
Avg Vol: 18,270,000
rimm
Volume: 4,632,571
Avg Vol: 17,334,000
wmt
Volume: 1,953,444
Avg Vol: 20,469,000
cost
Volume: 850,490
Avg Vol: 5,864,000
gld
Volume: 5,226,386
Avg Vol: 13,033,000
gs
Volume: 3,728,493
Avg Vol: 19,375,000
jpm
Volume: 11,774,438
Avg Vol: 86,200,000
bac
Volume: 89,523,343
Avg Vol: 557,398,000
wfc
Volume: 22,194,986
Avg Vol: 163,556,000
Magna Buys GM Europe
Wow.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/business/8074218.stm
Re: LINE
sounds like a comment on my investment in GE /unwillingness of booking my lost...
GM
So, does GM go to ZERO today? That's going to be a bit of a drag on the market, isn't it?
Re: OCLS @ 4.16/adding @ 3.77
Mark- I'm just one of those guys who use common sense when it comes to avoiding bugs- shoes off before entering the house, hand-washing before eating. It took H1N1 for the general public to start coughing into elbows, turning on public faucets using paper towels, etc. World population is taking off, and bugs love it.
Magna
Sorry to be just lurking.
The Magna deal is the biggest thing on the Canadian scene. but the stock is at
$35.45, off .71 (CDN)
May be very much underpriced.
MG.A TSX
Allen
Re: OCLS @ 4.16/adding @ 3.77
that would make you a rarity. I had those habits ingrained as a cook (and my parents) but so much I see in public is just plain disgusting. Some real complacency or lack of education.
covered my UNG calls after Dave reminded me what a knucklehead I was. Don't know if I'm getting a good deal (does one get a good deal when covering a short?). Looks like a reverse occurring now in UNG.
5 GLD 100 calls bought at opening paying off so far.
Morning Folks!
No trades today (yet).
Despite the great move in PM's, people are hesitant to both buy and sell at these levels.
Waiting for a crash to go long (or an abiding upmove in gold futures). Oh wait...Obama is talking...Maybe this will do it:)
Never short a dull market- rally into the close?
I have no chips riding on market direction right now, but if I had to guess, it ramps up into the close.
Re: Seek truth in volume
NYUGrad,
Over what period of time are those avg.vol. #s from?
Thanks,
G
Re: OCLS @ 4.16/adding @ 3.77
What bugs really love is humans and their antibacterial everything. They evolve resistance and we need to discover or up the dose of the stuff we're using. With MRSA we either use old but nasty antibiotics or we use newer nasty antibiotics. The constant use in crowded commercial animal husbandry is the chief concern, followed by incomplete dosing of humans.
Simple handwashing with regular old soap will do almost everything we want and will slow the development of resistance to antibiotics/bacterials, etc.
Dr. Cosa
Dreams can come true, they can happen to you, when your GOLD at heart.....
Re: OCLS @ 4.16/adding @ 3.77
2nd- I've followed this baby for 2 years. Last night I looked back through my file and figured the "sweet spot" was about $4.00. We'll see.
Good luck all. Got to run.
Royal Bank of Canada
NYSE:RY TSE:RY
Pretty volatile today as the announced numbers are digested.
PDS
I'm exercising my options on PDS and taking an additional 500 shares if they're available. If the deal closes today it's a double.
I would gladly buy it for $3.00, the option price.
Re: Seek truth in volume
i am just taking it from google finance. didnt have time to narrow the time frames.
Analyst Report on PG (Cara 100)
http://tinyurl.com/m5ctc4
Media....
I have noticed an abundance of media blips in the last week or two of market pundits, fund managers, etc on television plugging stocks they are bullish on. Many pundits are predicting we eclipse 1050-1100 on S&P this year. I don't think these predictions are out of the realm of possibilities of course, but I am kind of appauled by the lack of caution with which these predictions are being presented.
Fund managers that wouldn't dare show their faces on television let alone recommend a stock during the last year are now on tv plugging very risky stocks as if another phase of panic is completely impossible. Just a reminder to us all that pundits are all selling something, so take it all with a grain of salt.
Intraday technicals- SLW and AUY
The 10.40 area SLW and 11.57 area AUY look like optimum re-entry points for recycle. Projections of 10.80 and 11.90 for SLW and AUY respectively could be used as end of day closing estimates. Whether or not this occurs is anyone's guess but I'll stick my neck out!
Big Picture
I am now learning about TA.
I was looking at GICS sectors and Cara 100's
I noticed that very few stocks were, performance wise, above their prices three months ago:
GICS
10 XOM
15 KGC,ABX,GG,POT
20 TGP
25 NONE
30 DEO
35 JNJ,AET
40 HBC
45 LLTC
50 CHL
55 NONE
These stocks are based on 3 month performance. I know bill watches DEO, although I am not clear as to why. AET has a strong financial component. I really don't know why GICS sectors 25 and 55 would be so weak together.
Maybe some other member with mad TA skills can shed some light or at least provide some empirical insight.
Gold: is this The Big One?
UK newsletter perspective:
http://tinyurl.com/lmpc7t
Coxe on Bonds
Don did his call yesterday. Could be titled: "Everything you ever wanted to know about bonds".
http://events.startcast.com/events6/122/C0018/Defa...
CTIC
SHARK
Submitted by vinod (775 comments) on Tue, 05/26/2009 - 13:57 #29433 (in reply to #29432)
shark_attack
here is few that can fly,keep eye on it. HEB/CTIC
look like it is moving today
Re: Coxe on Bonds
Can some say (in one sentence) what is the gist of this audio?
I'm at work and can't listen to this.
As some may have noticed, I'm watching the bond fiasco very closely as it could be a major event of this summer.
Re: Gold: is this The Big One?
Makes total sense. I will be likely easing on miners today.
I just checked the GDX charts and it looks similar to mid Sept 07 with RSI(7) spiking over 80 but more room to go. This is why I will leave 50% core intact.
HNU.to- opened a position @ $USD 6.36
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Re: GM
Since the DOW is a price weighted index it will have minimal effect on the overall market.
Incremental erosion
A little more of that incremental erosion:
Daily Pfennig: "This morning, there's news from the South Korean Pension Fund that is shaking the foundations of the Treasury market... The Fund has announced that they will reduce the amount of its exposure to U.S. Treasuries, and diversify into other assets... This fund is about $200 Billion in size... So, not the likes of China and Japan, but still... Just another outlet for Treasuries to be apparently closed..."
SEA
Pook, you there? What do you think of SEA? I don't feel like weeding my way through all these shippers.
UNG- adding at 14.71
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Re: HNU.to- opened a position @ $USD 6.36/ adding @ $6.11
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cyber security - bio terror stocks - best ones
anyone have any ideas on these?
Re: cyber security - bio terror stocks - best ones
VDSI is a darling of Tom Gardner.
Been disappointing expectations - you can see how far its fallen in the last year.
Would have to check what he thinks of it now.
Re: cyber security - bio terror stocks - best ones
ASEI
Record foreclosures - S&P to rally for sure
WASHINGTON — A record 12 percent of all U.S. mortgages were at least one payment behind or in the foreclosure process during the first three months of this year, a report said Thursday.
In a reminder that the nation's economic problems aren't going away anytime soon, the report also found that the foreclosure rate on prime fixed-rate loans to financially healthy borrowers has doubled in the past 12 months. For the first time since the explosion in subprime lending to borrowers with weaker credit began early in this decade, in fact, the largest percentage of new foreclosures in January, February and March were on prime fixed-rate loans.
In its National Delinquency Survey, the Mortgage Bankers Association, an industry trade group, reported that one in four new foreclosure proceedings in the first quarter were on prime mortgages, up from one in five during the last three months of 2008.
Re: cyber security - bio terror stocks - best ones
thanks craig and les.
by the way, I believe there is a serious threat - and a serious area that should not be taken lightly.
Mortgage disquiet
Hard to explain to buyers why their short sale offer is still sitting on the seller's debt mitigation contractor's pile for 30 days+ with no response while their target 'preapproved' rate just leapt out of reach. Buyers can't be choosers in this market. Pays to keep your powder (and your realtor) dry!
Re: cyber security - bio terror stocks - best ones
Not taken lightly in this house.
Norton 2009.
PC banking is done with a combo USB hardware & software system
Just bought an ASUS router with integrated firewall and other privacy goodies packed into it.
And NO ONE touches my computer.
bio: dunno about that one. Our building is equipped with a bunker and nuclear/chemical filtered ventilation system.
Re: Record foreclosures - S&P to rally for sure
Les, NPR radio has some good online interviews with the players in this drama. Imagine the shock of HB&B that their AAA Borrowers were 'misrepresented' or worse yet had their perfect FICOs plummet after their CC's and lines were cut off by we know who...a vicious cycle of cause and effect.
30 year rates
I know there was a lot of talk about how 30 year rates jumped 30% in one day on Wednesday, but if you look now they are back down to where they were before Wednesday. Maybe people were overreacting? Plus, a 30 year rate of 5.3% is a far cry from being high, isn't it?...
Re: SEA
Mackinaw - A rising tide lifts all boats! NMM has a good balance sheet and I believe the dividend is secure.
Still got that FRO? They beat the street but the harbors are barely deep enough to eek profits. If things turn around, the largest tanker company in existence might produce a lot of upside... divy seems safe?
Crude Oil Prices
The thought just crossed my mind that the US military is a large consumer of hydrocarbons, weren't they supposed to be switching over to clean coal use in the near future?
TBT
Got stopped out of small position in TBT. Will be looking, wait on sidelines for reentry
TLT
Pulled back for a pause.
Re: 30 year rates
A 30 yr mortgage at 5.3% is a remarkable deal, especially if you believe in the FED/Treasury/Administration's ability to jumpstart inflation. These are some of the best 30yr mortgage rates I've ever witnessed in the US, if they're successful these rates will only be available for a year at most.
Re: 30 year rates
check this, : http://www.canadamortgage.com/RatesShow/ShowRates.cfm
gold, price movement, distribution
Bill observed the other day about gold:
"Extended advances rarely end on an opening gap down; more often than not, advances end after a gap higher, reversing to close lower on volume."
If you had a lot of GLD you had accumulated down at 890, and you needed to sell it off, you'd first have to raise the price, and then you'd have to get a lot of buyers interested with a bunch of news stories, and drops in the buck, and then - raise the price again, and when the volume came into the market, then that would be your chance to distribute. So you'd offer all the GLD people wanted at your price - say around 975 - and the price would basically be flat all day long.
I'm not being a gold bear here, I haven't seen a reversal pattern (although GLD's looking like it is about to print a falling star today, which isn't so positive), but I have seen a whole lot of volume and a pretty flat price movement all day long.
If it closes on volume, that would pretty much be Bill's "extended advance ending" he talked about the other day.
I'm just saying. :)
pump-fest on CNBC, we now
pump-fest on CNBC, we now have Goldman Sachs this morning telling the sheeple specifically to: "sell Petrobras October $34 put options for $1.95 because a U.S. economic recovery and lower petrochemical supplies will limit declines in the price of oil." What Goldman does not mention is that they were one of the "large speculators" that increased their net long positions in commodities 300% since they got their TARP money. This is just BRILLIANT - take OUR money and invest it in commodities, then pull out all the stops to run oil up 88% where these leveraged investment can pay off 10:1 and then give us our money back early at virtually no cost while keeping the 900% gains for themselves - BRILLIANT
from ZH
Re: gold, price movement, distribution
i agree with this assesment.
as of 1:45 i am about %60 in gold, the rest in cash just in case a pull back occurs to reload.
i think things wont work as smoothly as some are predicting. as usual im thinking a sudden move in either direction is possible. but if $1000 is breached with volume and actually stays there unlike that 2 touches, im thinking we will see my dream of $1100+ quick before a nasty downturn ensues.
at every step i remind myself of golds action the past 4 or 5 years has been making things as tricky as possible to time for those expecting pullbacks after a parabolic move.
good luck.
No trades today
I've become MUCH more discriminating about the trades I will take. Good thing too, my win/loss percentage has shifted dramatically and the money's not getting wasted on commissions and small losses. It makes all the difference.
Bill, have an awesomely nice weekend.
Re: TLT
Oh my gosh I did not see TLT today until just now!
We saw TLT print a "bullish dragonfly doji reversal" yesterday (medium reliability) with extremely heavy volume, and today we see TLT confirming that with a long white candle.
http://www.candlesticker.com/Cs19.asp
The only issue I see is, the confirmation candle today doesn't have as big a volume as I would hope for in this situation, so I'd be a little worried if I were going to go long big time with TLT.
Re: 30 year rates
allengg - Not sure what your point is, are Canada's mortgages limited to 10 yrs? I would much prefer a 30yr fixed, but I suppose nobody stays in the same home that long anymore? Maybe loannetter can point us to some average duration stats...
profit taking
Looking for input/strategies to take profits.
Am long various pm's. 40% on very small position of AUY.
30% of 1/2 position SLW, 16-20% in WGW,WHY
Afraid to sell and miss more profits. i am seriously underwater on this trading acct
EJ china stock
possible breakout soon from recent weeks highs.
Re: 30 year rates
No, rates in Canada do go to 30 years, not popular for some reason. Question should be; why are rates better in the U.S. ?
Answer, greedy , profitable CDN banks.
looking at the volumes outside of precious metals
Once May performance is printed after today's close, with the lack of buyers eveident in the markets, my guess is sellers will gain back control monday.
But hey, the mantra of the summer has been "its really not as bad as we thought"
Re: TLT
Minor bounce. Nobody wants treasuries to fall off a cliff, absolute panic would ensue and the market would crash again. $US is weak today, maybe we'll witness a dampened "magical" oscillatory downward cycle (USD->TBT->USD->TBT)?
Re: profit taking
Photogray
If you are tenuous about holding your PM's after this run-up, you might consider selling some out-of-the-money or at-the-money covered calls against your position. That will provide you income (premiums collected) should the position turn against you but will cap your gains above the strike+premium you sell at.
I only suggest this on liquid stocks of course like AUY and SLW where you should have tight bid/ask spreads on options. Not a suggested idea for less liquid stocks as they are much more difficult to enter/exit if there is an options market at all. This strategy will also decrease overall portfolio volatility.
Re: TLT
CP - Minor bounce.
It kinda feels that way, sure. But if I just look at price and volume action on TLT, it looks like a serious bottom. No other rally has that kind of concentrated volume in it for a while.
I guess my handicap is, I don't know bonds at all. Is TLT ETF just the tail, and the big dog wagging the tail is the actual treasury market itself?
If we had a sense that the underlying market had real volume for the bounce, we could be sure it wasn't just a manipulated thing. I'm just not that up on bonds, though, so I don't really have a clue.
Classic 1958 GM commercial
Before i was born.
http://tinyurl.com/nam6j4
I sincerely hope the new company can kick butt.
Did they stop trading!
I took a two hour nap from 11:00 to One. When I got back to my screen I hit refresh 3 or 4 times because literally nothing had moved.
Re: 30 year rates
"Question should be; why are rates better in the U.S. ?
Answer, greedy , profitable CDN banks."
Could be, need to compare their spread. US banks only seem interested in a couple of things lately: Quick evictions and stiff qualifications. Maybe they're working their way down the tree instead of just starting at the bottom.
rimm
I got burned by owning rimm $75 calls. If you haven't noticed take a look at what rimm has done the last 2 days. Do you think that this was programmed trading designed to burn those on the short side and also lure in new money as it skyrocketed only to sell it off?
30 year rates
sorry c-p your choice of analogous phrases
USD vs S&P 500
So perhaps others have observed this today (I'm a little late getting trading), but the USD is DOWN 1.4% - a huge, monster gap down, and the S&P is having trouble staying above water.
What gives? Placing the US on the discount rack isn't enough to get anyone into US equities any longer? Or are they all fleeing for oil and PM?
Oops, and there it went negative.
Gold/Silver Ratio
I noticed today that at approximately 62.5 (976/15.63) we have reached levels not visited since about 9/4/08 when the ratio began to breakdown and subsequently gapped up from about 62 to 65 in one day and ran up close to 85 by 10/10/2008.
I think it will be worthwhile to keep a close eye on how this relationship acts as this "gap" in the ratio is closed. I think this ratio can provide some very useful clues in determining the larger economic picture as many of the peaks of this ratio above 80 fell on very important market turns.
10/10/2008 84.92 Initial Peak
11/20/2008 82.90 First Retest
12/23/2008 81.33 Second Retest
2/23/2009 68.15 Subsequent Low
4/21/2009 73.26 Retrace High
5/29/2009 62.5 Subsequent Low Intraday (appx)
Re: TLT
davefairtex - I get the sense TLT/TBT/IEF/JPY/GLD/$US are among the most difficult TA challenges. Perhaps it's just as wise to consider surrounding indicators such as benchmark components of the broader indicies in the assessment?
The FED is running a delicate balancing act.
Re: sorry c-p" quick n stiff '
A large percentage of applications are turned away, and mortgage delinquent homeowners are quickly evicted. Inventory is piling up, further exacerbating the problems, housing has yet to bottom. The equities market is leading economic recovery in every aspect I can imagine, as expected.
Re: TLT
I agree. Not only TLT bounced from the RSI(7) of 20, but $TED and $LIBOR bounced back from RSI(7) of 0!!! The bond hiccup is a major event. The bond market is the biggest and most important market of all. While Fed can bully equity markets, they stand no chance on bond market.
I'm not buying TLT though, rather selling stocks.
Miners loosing their steam today, I sold 50% of my 403b. Equities trying to find their direction today, could sell off at the close (just a guess).
I may want to sell the other 50% soon. The Rydex PM holdings crossed 300 levels. Last time we had that was the gold peak in 2006.
Re: sorry c-p" quick n stiff '
Re: "The equities market is leading economic recovery in every aspect I can imagine, as expected."
Very true, but prone to false positive recovery of hope disconnected from realities. I subscribe to Grantham's VL recovery model and believe we are slowly approaching the mid to upper part of V (but not without some whipsaw ahead, we need to complete the inverted H&S, right?).
FDIC restricts interest rates at weak banks
WASHINGTON, May 29 (Reuters) - U.S. banks that are struggling to stay afloat will not be allowed to aggressively ratchet up interest rates to attract customer money, a top bank regulator said on Friday.
The Federal Deposit Insurance Corp voted to bar a bank with insured deposits from paying interest rates that "significantly exceed" prevailing market rates if the bank is deemed not well capitalized. The new rule better defines what constitutes normal market rates, the FDIC said.
The agency also finalized a rule that expands the FDIC's debt-guarantee program to include mandatory convertible debt. The FDIC passed an interim rule in February to expand the program, which is designed to boost confidence in banks.
http://bit.ly/2AkMPo
Re: rimm
newbee - I got burned by owning rimm $75 calls.
So I'm guessing you bought the breakout. Vad in his trading class says that there are 3 basic things that happen on breakouts - in this case when RIMM went above resistance at "around" 78.
1) the stock shoots up and keeps on going for a time. Yay, this is fun!
2) the stock shoots up, then drops back down, tests support, and then goes back up again.
3) the stock moves up, drops back down, and fails support, going below the breakout point. Boo.
#2 is the same as #1, except there is a "shakeout phase" where weak hands (that's you and me) get convinced to sell, and then immediately after that, the stock rockets back up as if to taunt us.
To avoid being shaken out, place a stop below the breakout level - for RIMM somewhere below 77.50.
Also, on the breakout, look at the volume. Lame volume (in this case, RIMM volume wasn't all that fantastic) may mean the breakout won't be so good either. Compare the RIMM breakout at 77.50 with the GDX breakout on May 20. Nice volume on the GDX breakout confirms it's probably the real thing.
In answer to your question "are these guys being deliberately evil" - yes. Yes, they are. They are the enemy, and they want your money. And there are all kinds of sneaky things they will do your emotions to get it from you.
hnu.to
Got off some more at $7.10 Cdn today, looks good in retrospect. Gradually reducing exposure, mentally booking profits David style on my lower cost entries. Must calculate remaining cost basis. Initial buy greater than $8. Lowest cost $5.90,. With patience, maybe overall profit when all said and done.
Re: rimm
thanks
who us Vad?
Re: Record foreclosures - S&P to rally for sure
Les,
You lost me there. Why would the S&P rally on record foreclosures of prime loans?
Re: TLT
Dave, good call! I believe we got the confirmation. I suspect the fed is buying. I have no TLT/TBT positions at present.
Re: TLT
davefairtex - On second thought, you may be correct about TLT. It does look surprisingly healthy today. Do two consecutive trading days qualify as a trend?
SLV
Stock is up .53 or 3.5% on double the volume, something is happening in silver. Ratio with gold?
GMO
Check out GMO...I feel like a dumbass, just been watching it.
Re: rimm
FYI Rimm low yesterday $77.52 today $77.54
Can't really tell if its bouncing off that.
It's meandering around $78 now.
Thanks again
who us Vad?
Vadiym Grafir, commentor here and Bill Cara stature imho, google him or search Cara posts
peace
Re: Record foreclosures - S&P to rally for sure
I believe Les was using Wall street think where the markets move in opposite direction of logic.
Bob
Re: TLT
I think we've had the reversal, according to that candlesticker site - which I got from you, btw. TLT will print a maribozu which is an extremely strong bullish signal. Closing at the high, and all. Coming after the dragonfly doji, that comfirms a reversal pattern with a pretty high degree of certainty.
not a fan
Since I'm short, I'm not so much a fan of these program buys going into the close.
Your Tax Dollars At Work, I suppose.
ok. I guess no one is investigating that close?
unreal.
Re: ok. I guess no one is investigating that close?
my thoughts..yeah, that was natural! lol
Re: TLT
"I think we've had the reversal, according to that candlesticker site"
Yes, I know about the confirmation, and a double take indicates TLT does track reasonably well. my bad. The FED must be buying, or some speculative front running is going on. I lean towards FED purchasing because the dollar is getting hammered.
FD: Long gold and various equities
Re: ok. I guess no one is investigating that close?
Who watches the watchers?
7 points in 5 minutes. Nice volume on SPY too.
Cnbc likes the close. Triple digit gain!
People need something good to read on a Sunday.
$VIX
Quite a slam down at the close. Now resting peacefully @$29.00 -2.79 (-8.81%). I would call that a large drop! I can only surmise that a whole lot of options traders believe the worst is really behind us. However, I still have those 1929-1933 chart visions dancing in head.
Re: Cnbc likes the close. Triple digit gain!
CNBC may like the close, but manipulation gives me a sick, queasy feeling in my gut.
GM Subcompact Cars
Duh, now why didn't they do that 10+ years ago. Put a v6 in it and make a high MPG rocketship. It's pushing all that weight around that makes a big SUV such a hog, while any IC engine converts 85% of the energy into heat.
Where is the money coming from ?
I'm baffled by today's close. Treasuries, equities and PM's all closed higher. Where is the money coming from ? My understanding is there's a battle at the COMEX between the shorts at HB&B and some very big buyer soaking up all supply. At the same time, if money is flowing into treasuries AND equities, I can only conclude they are sacrificing the $USD.
Hope Bill can shed some light in the WIR.
GMO
I remember this one now Shark. Yet it seems to have lost its trading track record, but I remember it booming from $1.25 to $5.00 4-5 yrs ago on the TSX. It's aussie moly deposit. right? Sprott was all over it.
Gold
Wow, that's two weeks in a row of fantastic losses in the $US. Whomever's buying treasuries is a glutten for punishment! It must be for the good of the people....
Re: Cnbc likes the close. Triple digit gain!
Same here!
However there might be a small silver lining for bears:
"The last time we saw this kind of four-week cluster was during the end of December 2006 through the first week of January 2007 (it's not surprising that many of these occurrences happen around holidays when volatility is dampened).
Using the S&P 500 since the late 1920's, we usually saw a quick move to the downside out of these consolidations - the next week was positive only 32% of the time. But after that, the returns turn considerably more positive."
http://sentimentrader.blogspot.com/
Bob Hope and James Cagney
http://www.youtube.com:80/watch?v=JOoNOs8Ql28
Not many have seen this duo perform this routine, entertainment like this i fear is long gone.
http://www.commodityonline.com/news/IMF-gold-sale-...
Came across this article which now is saying that any sale will not impact the POG, yet only a couple of weeks ago similar articles were painting the opposite picture, just as gold was getting hammered. Sold my remaining HGU this morning and went for a nice bike ride as the weather cleared up wonderfully in the Niagara Peninsula after two days rain, was hoping to find a final push up in the price of the miners so as to start a short position but it didnt materialize and i didnt get the right vibes. With the USD zeroing in on 79 cents one has to wonder just when the dollar will be defended. Mackinaw made a comment this morning about quarter s end after June and my first thought was no way that the markets and PM s could sidetrack for that long but on second thought look how long the markets kept going up in 06-08, i was thinking that they would keep it up till after the mid term elections but it just kept going up, if the republicans had actually thought that they could have won the election or corrected the economy they may have just kept going until after the presidential elections, bottom line is that there is no quick fix so let the dems take the heat and try again next time. Perhaps we do get to $17 in silver as Bill has pointed out there is little resistance in getting there and maybe gold does hit $1000, im just getting the feeling that there are more contract s to sell and it may take some more time.
While out today i stopped at union hall and ran into some of the younger guys that are laid off and from their reports there is just no work out there, young strong men not even being able to find landscaping work. Whether it be the stock market, labour market or the market for my bike, its just damn tough out there, i would love to get a nice touring bike and cant get any serious buyers for mine.
Re: Where is the money coming from ?
Collusion. The smart money. The big money. HBB. The Fed. Treasury.The status quo. Have been manipulating this market since Paulson. Maybe they are all PATRIOTS saving America or possibly saving the oligarchy. This is not change I can believe in. Just wish I would get the: "we are going long and large at 3:45." Memo.
Re: ok. I guess no one is investigating that close?
we went up to 100+ on the dow the last 10 min of the session.
EDIT: I wonder if i should adopt a new strat. Sleep until noon everyday. eat lunch, go work out at 1:30. come back by 3:30, log onto my trading account. at 3:45 and just buy SPY at the market, then sell at 3:59.
GTU
GTU, does it track bullion price? Since I mentioned that it was sold off on its share offering on 5/6 lets see how it performed since against Gold Futures vs CEF vs GTU.
The results are:
GTU CEF Gold Futures
5/6/2009 37.20 11.41 912.70
5/29/2009 39.77 12.65 980.30
% of change 6.90 10.86 7.40
*37.20 was my entry point
So, the numbers say, GTU does track bullion if that is what your are after. The only provision is that both GTU and CEF will generally bomb on share offerings. The key is not to panic if you believe that gold is in a bull trend and look at it as an opportunity.
More on the close today
I typically dont link out to other bloggers but I have seen his link/name here before. and I also read ZeroHedge everyday and the information is high quality. So here is his take on today's close and the robot trading wars.
Just search Zerohedge.
"As for today's market close, with a literally parabolic jump in the last minute of trading, if anyone still thinks this market trades based on anything resembling normal behavior (unless someone had a very Jerome Kerviel-esque fat delta hedging finger), I have some BBB+ rated CMBS to sell to you at par. One culprit could be hiding in the huge drop of agency trading, which this week dropped to a several month low of 1.875 billion shares."
"Going back to today's ridiculous close, the chart below shows it all: the complete tape painting volume spike at the very end of the day speaks for itself. And as computers now simply issue forced stock recall orders to each other, painting the tape wet with manipulative intent and volume spikes into the last 20 minutes of trading every day, their human creators are left on the sidelines, trying to outshout each other as to the reason for why the market keeps rising while the economy keeps tumbling."
"Is there ever going to be any transparency in this market again?"
Re: who us Vad?
Thanks again. I learned a painful and expensive lesson the last 2 days and your pointing out that I should have looked at the chart (I did at one point) and set a limit order to buy back the calls close to that point is a valuable one.
As far as looking up Vad's posts, isn't there a way to search for all of someone's post's.
I tried searching for Vad and only got posts by other's that mentioned his name.
I tried searching for Vadiiym Grafir and got nothing.
It seems I saw a post telling how to pull up all the posts by an individual (I think it was function + something (F4 maybe). Anyway, if you know how to do this please let me know.
Once again, thanks for your help.
Re: who us Vad?
Find one post from Vad, click on his username, and there is a link to see all their comments...
Bilderberg deciding on deflationary or inflationary depression
This is a highly controversial stuff but Estulin had a good track record in predicting major economy moves based on the leaks from this meeting.
from http://issueswire.com/releases/Bilderberg_Group_Me...
"According to Estulin's reading of the report, it looks as if there are serious disagreements within the group. The hardliners are for dramatic decline and a severe, short-term depression, but there are those who think that things have gone too far and that the fallout from the global economic cataclysm cannot be accurately calculated if Henry Kissinger's model is chosen. Among them is Richard Holbrooke. What is unknown at this point: if Holbrooke's point of view is, in fact, Obama's.
Estulin says that the consensus dealt a blow to those in the group who were hoping for economic revival, agreeing that the recession will be deeper, and the road to recovery longer and harder, than the happy talk coming from world leaders. The terms used were ''relatively slow and protracted.'' Estulin says pay attention to the press dailies: you will see quite a bit of these two terms in the weeks and months to come.
Estulin notes that some of those who attended the annual conference will give another, more moderate view, stating that ''the economy requires a period of healing and that it will take time.'' While this helps create a dialectic in the press from two Bilderberg camps, both will pay heed to the idea of ''great uncertainty over the outlook.'' According to Estulin, over the next several months the Bilderbergers will purposely refuse to commit to any specifics, simply pointing out "that there exist big risks to a recovery still reeling from financial turmoil, making it very difficult to assess developments."
Estulin reports that some leading European bankers faced with the specter of their own financial mortality are extremely concerned, calling this high wire act "unsustainable," and saying that US budget and trade deficits could result in the demise of the dollar. Recent fears about their own survival have not been quelled because, as one Bilderberg attendee pointed out, "the banks themselves don't know the answer to when (the bottom will be hit)." According to the group's report, however, all agreed that the level of capital needed for the American banks may be considerably higher than the US government suggested through their recent stress tests.
Estulin says that someone from the IMF pointed out that its own study on historical recessions suggests that the US is only a third of the way through this current one; therefore economies expecting to recover with resurgence in demand from the US will have a long wait. As another individual pointed out, "Equity losses in 2008 were worse than those of 1929." This individual then added, "The next phase of the economic decline will also be worse than the '30s, mostly because the US economy carries about $20 trillion of excess debt. Until that debt is eliminated, the idea of a healthy boom is a mirage."
Estulin reports that according to a World Bank representative at the meeting, government officials around the world have proposed more than sixty new trade restrictions since the beginning of the financial crisis, which some attendees found distressing, as governments, in a downward spiraling economy embrace protectionist policies to try and protect employment and generate internal economic activity."
ah yes here's the payoff from that close we just saw
U.S. Stocks Rally, Capping Three-Month S&P 500 Gain on Economic Optimism
May 29 (Bloomberg) -- U.S. stocks rallied, capping the first three-month gain for the Standard & Poor’s 500 Index since its record in 2007, as commodity, transportation and financial shares jumped on speculation the global economy is recovering.
The Standard & Poor’s 500 Index added 1.4 percent to 919.14 at 4:05 p.m. in New York, with almost all of the advance coming after 3:30 p.m. as investors snapped up shares in the final minutes of May’s 5.2 percent gain. The Dow Jones Industrial Average rose 96.53 points, or 1.2 percent, to 8,500.33. Three stocks climbed for each falling on the New York Stock Exchange.
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Sigh. "Snapped up shares.' Who writes this stuff? I'll give them an article:
US Stocks were bought heavily at end of day for no particular reason other than what looks like blatant market manipulation in an attempt to paint a happy end to an otherwise lackluster trading session. The dollar was crushed losing from 1-2% of its value in one day against the major currencies of the world, continuing a trend over the past month which has caused the price of everything we import including oil to rise...
Re: GMO
Next week (presuming this thing continues to trade like a stock, not like real estate) I will be all over the drops like hair on a gorilla.
Re: ah yes here's the payoff from that close we just saw
Lmao,
Dave I think there is a journalism career in your future.Not. We can't handle the truth.
Bob
Re: who us Vad?
Vad's sight. http://www.realitytrader.com/
Re: TLT
CP, on daily charts it looks like swing low is completed. On weekly charts, we have to see how next week closes (if it closes above 97.5,i would call it a trend change)
Re: GMO
"Next week (presuming this thing continues to trade like a stock, not like real estate) I will be all over the drops like hair on a gorilla."
Lookin' in the mirror again shark :)
Sorry....
Re: More on the close today
I went to the website. Thanks for the info. It's pretty sickening what is going on.
200 MILLION TEMPS
ALOHA !!
WOW ... 200 million temps! Imagine that dilema here in America?
As one of the Chinese ecomists points out in this video CHINA has a quarter of the Worlds population to kep fed and happy. As I have pointed out in the past many times Chinese have family and a farm to go back to when they lose their city jobs ... Americans do not! Americans used to ... during the Great Depression! Perhaps CHINA would just be another USA JR if the government had to pay Social Security, Med, unemployments and food stamps. Maybe that is a big reason CHINA can post such impressive growth numbers since GDP is not diverted to government welfare PROMISES.
So the US government taxes the hell out of us then takes that tax money and hands it out as "ant-riot" bribes to SS, MED, FDIC. Sedating the masses! VALIUM COMOTOSES as the Romans called it! HA!!
The CHINESE do not have that handicap to impede competition and quality of life. America has become the "LAND OF INFINITE DEBT"!
Nice to see an open and frank discussion amoung a number of Chinese economists all in the same room! HA!! Its NOT the SITUATION ROOM we are used to! There is no WOLF!
Here is a link to the article and the video, with text transcripts as well.
From McKinsey & Co ...
IS CHINA RECESSION PROOF?
May 2009
Link: http://www.mckinseyquarterly.com/China/Is_China_re...
Intraday technicals-SLW and AUY
An exciting day. Both SLW and AUY never came close to my ending projections but the entry points were fine. You could have still made money. A significant contraction occured starting at 2:15 and tried to spread its wings going into the close. I held on to full positions at the end of the day.
After hours, the metals are going higher even though they are attempting some profit taking on the stocks without any significant inroads. It looks like Monday could be a blockbuster! Hold on tight!
Re: Gold
The good news is that you can prop this market up forever. SPX going to be 2000 by year end. And $10 for Loaf of bread,$20 for gallon of gas. Base on that market is way under value. Our economic expansion is being fueled by debt leverage & asset inflation not by innovation & production.
I think ther was a raging bull market in Zimbabwe's stocks too.
ritholtz on "Consumer Confidence" exposed
History teaches us that Confidence does not forecast future economic activity; rather, it is closely correlated to recent stock market gains or losses. Markets go up, and people feel better; markets go down and people feel worse.
One of the ironic things about the data is how conclusive it is that sentiment is a contrarian indicator. Mark Hulbert looked at consumer confidence data (via the Conference Board’s index) to its beginning — 1977. He then looked at how markets did over the ensuing periods. His conclusion?
“The biggest monthly jumps in the consumer confidence index were, on average, followed by sub-par returns. Conversely, big drops in the index were typically followed by above-average returns...."
http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/05/confidence-game/
Re: More on the close today
I guess if HB&B + Fed + Tres keep markets flat for a few more weeks by devaluing $, MA50 could cross MA200 and then there would be a major explosion in buying and probably a great shorting opportunity. Food for thought.
Re: 200 MILLION TEMPS
More views on China and commodities here:
http://tinyurl.com/n37nsw
"City focus: Can China keep miners smiling"
'The big fear of the Chinese government is unemployment, which leads to social unrest, so they are buying metals just to maintain employment,' he said. Accordingly, the state has been maintaining an artificial floor under prices by buying metals on the market.
That clearly cannot go on forever. At some point soon we will need to see a sustained rebound in industrial demand, both in China and elsewhere around the world, if metal valuations are to be sustained. Some analysts believe we will come to a crunch point soon - perhaps as early as this summer.
'There is a risk things have got ahead of themselves, and that may manifest itself in the third quarter of the year,' said commodities strategist David Barclay of Standard Chartered.
Re: ritholtz on "Consumer Confidence" exposed
I said the same thing couple of days ago.
Market IS the ultimate confidence indicator, as people are voting with their money.
Re: 200 MILLION TEMPS
ALOHA !!
Thanks johnuk ... So the western analysts at Barclays are selling the idea that the out of work miners will riot if they lose their jobs. The Chinese economists seems to say they will go back to their country farms and live until they can get city jobs again. This plays into my personal experience with Mexican workers in the USA. Many I hired would just go back to families and farms in Mexico if things got too tough in the USA for them. The Chinese economists say the problem workers in CHINA are the educated student types who lose their jobs and can communicate with each other via internet or phone while the migrant workers who work the factories and mines scatter to different parts of the country.
I think another factor Barclays leaves out is perhaps CHINA needs to do something with its excess US Dollar reserves so instead CHINA buys industrial consumables and global mining companies. It must be obvious to CHINA that the US government can talk STRONG DOLLAR all they want but their actions speak more to the truth of debasing the currency. What else is there in America for the Chinese to buy? They tried a few years ago to buy UNOCAL but the US CONgress said NO ... I am sure we would be happy to sell them FNM and FRE but why would CHINA want them? The Asians have been burned badly on "US Bank jobs"! AIG? GMAC? GE CAPITAL? Those are gems that only US TAXPAYERS are forced to buy! Why do you think S&P has two ratings for each country?
Interesting that most all of the Chinese economists are saying CHINA will be back to "normal" growth(normal for CHINA is GDP of 9-10%) by the end of 2009 and the Barclays say they won't. That's always the issue with so many analysts around with agendas of their own to sell.
What's the truth? Maybe somewhere half way! What ever the future holds I prefer being a creditor than debtor when it comes to growth and GDP!
CARRY ON BRAVELY!
jalapeno
Just another lunch break at the White House: President Obama today zipped down to the Five Guys burger joint near Nationals Park -- just him, a couple aides, a motorcade's worth of security, the traveling press pool, Brian Williams, and the NBC camera crew that just happened to be trailing him today for a "day-in-the-life" documentary about POTUS.
The president, in shirtsleeves, shelled out at least $80 in cash, according to press-pool observers, to get sandwiches for his entourage and the crew -- including a burger with ketchup and fries for Williams, a cheeseburger with jalapeno, lettuce, mustard and tomato for himself. Chit-chatted with fellow customers, got a group photo with the restaurant staff, took his order out in two large paper bags to go. It's his second burger lunch in recent weeks -- Obama and Joe Biden ventured to Ray's Hell Burger in Arlington. Michelle Obama also visited another Five Guys in D.C. earlier this year.
Re: Gold
vinod - Daaaa da daaa dant; The story you are about to witness is true, the names have been changed to protect the innocent. The results of "The case of the stealth wealth" in just a moment:
Re: jalapeno
I thought Michelle's vegetable garden ground-breaking at the White House set a better tone for O's term. I guess, like Kaimu has just pointed out, they realized that Americans don't own any land for vegetable gardens, so I guess cheap burgers are the next best thing. The stupifying effects of obesity and poor nutrition might also make it easier to stomach what's in store for the US in the next few years.
http://www.financialpost.com/executive/story.html?...
Re: ah yes here's the payoff from that close we just saw
davefairtex - If the price of everything is rising, then doesn't it follow that the market has good reason to rise as well?
I don't much like the idea of holding a bag.
TBT/TLT...not so fast...
Put up a daily 6mos chart of either. You need six mos because they've been trending sideways for a while, but the trend that remains in place starts in the last days of December 08. TLT tops before and TBT bottoms before, but the moving averages cross over about Dec. 28, confirming the trend change. Then they move around the 50 period and cross UP (down for TLT)in April. A correction we had today(so far) does not a trend change make.
Another reason to use the 6 mos chart is to see the overhead resistance for TBT (support for TLT) that has to be worked through in time over on the left. That's what TBT hit today. Note it only corrected to first support around 52.60. Not that we don't pay attention to such things, but to get a bite out of the middle with lower risk means we have to wait to see verification.
Comptroller of the Currency
I never heard of John Dugan until H. Paulson said on C-Span before Congress that he had full faith in him. That ended the questioning from a R-Ohio Rep who was very upset that Dugan/Treasury had forced National City Bank into a takeover By Pinnacle. That was at the height of last falls "troubles".
Now,Washington Post has a critical report on this guy, per a Ritholtz link:
• The Big Banks’ Best Friend in Washington (Washington Post)
www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009...
I don't know why Geitner/Obama don't get rid of Dugan.
Re: Bob Hope and James Cagney
tgifbipo,
If you like Bob Hope and James Cagney then you might like Gene Kelly and Van Johnson from Brigadoon.
The best part starts about 3 minutes into the piece.
Brigadoon
Go home with bonnie Jean
Video 5.08 minutes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJPmW2LYhDo
sorry, repeat deleted
see below
Re: 30 year rates
CP, My Canadian investors are seriously jealous of our 30 year terms! In protection mode, some of the local Credit Unions are only offering 5 year fixed terms amortized for 20 years.
While it's true that on average people tend to stay in their homes 5-7 years in our mobile culture; this statistic does not account for how many people may actually keep their home as an investment...enjoying that nice long low rate!
In answer to davefairtex's quote of 8% Jumbos last night, I raised my head to look across the board after lock desks closed (what a week) and while all our lenders were lowering rates twice during the day, my better Jumbo lender was offering $600K (our area is not benefiting from raised conventional limits like Seattle) at 5.5% with no points. Hard to argue these rates are still TOC for first time buyers and repeat performers alike!
The main 'hits' to price are for FICO scores <720 and LTV's >75%.
Re: TBT/TLT...not so fast...
Craig - I think we were discussing a short term trade of possibly less than one week. At least I hope we were.... A reversal over two day's time is perhaps a reason to establish a hedge but I'm reasonably certain the FED has yet to complete the task of QE, which should increase the velocity of money as opposed to the current practice of hoarding. All of this at the expense of normalization.
Re: 30 year rates
Loannetter thanks for the info. Please tell me to bug off if you wish, but how is business? Is anyone refinancing. Is Obama's new home buyer bonus helping? Any action in Jumbo's? I believe you said early this year that your area was not hit hard by falling values in homes.
Bob
CRE
Starbucks Corp. ... is pushing some U.S. landlords for as much as a 25 percent reduction in lease rates, taking advantage of a declining real estate market to save on rent.
Rite Aid is also asking for rent reductions. Rite Aid apparently held a conference call with 60 Rite Aid landlords and asked for a 25% rent reduction - or they would close the stores
HotelNewsNow.com: US results for 17-23 May 2009 In year-over-year measurements, the industry’s occupancy fell 11.1 percent to end the week at 59.4 percent. Average daily rate dropped 9.3 percent to finish the week at US$98.31. Revenue per available room for the week decreased 19.4 percent to finish at US$58.39
I think CRE is headed for a better than 50% fall
Aero & defense
if a war really break out in the north east asia, can i expect aero and defense industry to rally?
i know that US's defense budget is as big as the sum of the rest of the world. But with Washington cutting it's defense budget, what will happen to BA LMT NOC? are they allowed to work with other countries eg: China, India, Brazil etc?
what do you think?
Re: cyber security - bio terror stocks - best ones
SAIC
Re: Aero & defense
Hi GC and Oldgoat,
Here is an article I just read.
World of opportunity spied in cyber securities
Scroll down to the **
http://tinyurl.com/nv92or
As companies jostle for exposure to customers and niche technology, the M&A market has heated up.
According to data providers Dealogic, in 2005 defence companies bought about 29 IT software and services companies in deals worth $3.1bn. In 2008 they bought 32 companies for $7.2bn.
In the UK, Cobham, the aerospace and defence group, has conducted forays in the area. In 2008 it bought Sparta for $416m, which gave it a US presence in information management for the intelligence services.
But the company is also doing more to pack security measures and functions into its other products, be they communications or battlefield systems, says Jeremy Wensinger, president of Cobham’s defence systems unit.
“Whether it is ones and zeros to protect platforms on the battlefield or ones and zeroes to protect the electricity grid, cyber security is a requirement,” he says.
But taking on US incumbents will be challenging. Lockheed Martin has a solid lead in the sector as a major provider of IT to the federal government. Its offerings run from high-end systems for US intelligence agencies, to software for the payment of social security benefits.
***
Boeing and Northrop Grumman have both said that they will look at acquisitions in the space while Raytheon and General Dynamics have recently set up cyber-focused units.
***
Defence companies will also butt up against commercial suppliers, as they tackle security issues for civilian federal agencies. And experts worry their military experience may not read across to commercial situations as well as expected.
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How about Symantec ? anyone have a nomination for the cyber czar?
Re: Aero & defense
maybe we should expect something product featuring in movies like starwars, startrek, terminators etc...
also does CSCO has any contract with the governments?
Re: TBT/TLT...not so fast...
CP - I think we were discussing a short term trade of possibly less than one week...
In some sense I'm trying to keep disciplined using TA and look at volume and candlestick patterns, even when all my fundamental feelings about the underlying are telling me something different. Honestly, I wouldn't buy a treasury for all the tea in ... hehe that would be China I guess.
If I were one of those aggressive and nimble traders I'd have bought the reversal when it showed up yesterday, but really I'm just looking for a re-entry point for my TBT that I cashed out of early a few days back.
Looking at the daily chart of TLT I saw a massive 1M share spike at 1pm yesterday that marked the low point and actually the moment of reversal. Perhaps that's when the Fed PPT employee responsible for the bond market came back from lunch and saw the horror. "Quick, spend 100M and get that frown turned upside down!"
I'm gonna guess it was as CP said before - serious intervention.
Re: ah yes here's the payoff from that close we just saw
CP - If the price of everything is rising, then doesn't it follow that the market has good reason to rise as well?
Commodity price inflation due to the drop in the dollar does not bless all stocks equally. It helps some companies, while it hurts others.
In this period of reduced consumption (due to rising unemployment, and increased savings), the manufacturers don't have a whole lot of pricing power, so now they get squeezed by their input costs rising, and reluctant consumers cutting back purchases. That's most definitely NOT a positive for them.
Resource companies are of course happy campers.
Its probable that selected export industries benefit from a weaker dollar, like Boeing maybe, in competition with Airbus, but for companies that produce things for domestic consumption get hosed.
Re: Record foreclosures - S&P to rally for sure
RE:>You lost me there. Why would the S&P rally on record foreclosures of prime loans?
Because, the S&P will - and did - rally spectacularly on particularly bad news!
The logic is simple. One needs to be a contrary contrarian in this market!
Thinking that HB&B will play this to at least Q2 earnings, as others have suggested. Remember all the fudging and beancounter tricks that the banks have up their sleeves for next quarter earnings.
Exploding Debt Threatens America
From the FT:
Standard and Poor’s decision to downgrade its outlook for British sovereign debt from “stable” to “negative” should be a wake-up call for the US Congress and administration. Let us hope they wake up.
Under President Barack Obama’s budget plan, the federal debt is exploding. To be precise, it is rising – and will continue to rise – much faster than gross domestic product, a measure of America’s ability to service it. The federal debt was equivalent to 41 per cent of GDP at the end of 2008; the Congressional Budget Office projects it will increase to 82 per cent of GDP in 10 years. With no change in policy, it could hit 100 per cent of GDP in just another five years.
“A government debt burden of that [100 per cent] level, if sustained, would in Standard & Poor’s view be incompatible with a triple A rating,” as the risk rating agency stated last week.
I believe the risk posed by this debt is systemic and could do more damage to the economy than the recent financial crisis. To understand the size of the risk, take a look at the numbers that Standard and Poor’s considers. The deficit in 2019 is expected by the CBO to be $1,200bn (€859bn, £754bn). Income tax revenues are expected to be about $2,000bn that year, so a permanent 60 per cent across-the-board tax increase would be required to balance the budget. Clearly this will not and should not happen. So how else can debt service payments be brought down as a share of GDP?
Inflation will do it. But how much? To bring the debt-to-GDP ratio down to the same level as at the end of 2008 would take a doubling of prices. That 100 per cent increase would make nominal GDP twice as high and thus cut the debt-to-GDP ratio in half, back to 41 from 82 per cent. A 100 per cent increase in the price level means about 10 per cent inflation for 10 years. But it would not be that smooth – probably more like the great inflation of the late 1960s and 1970s with boom followed by bust and recession every three or four years, and a successively higher inflation rate after each recession.
The fact that the Federal Reserve is now buying longer-term Treasuries in an effort to keep Treasury yields low adds credibility to this scary story, because it suggests that the debt will be monetised. That the Fed may have a difficult task reducing its own ballooning balance sheet to prevent inflation increases the risks considerably. And 100 per cent inflation would, of course, mean a 100 per cent depreciation of the dollar. Americans would have to pay $2.80 for a euro; the Japanese could buy a dollar for Y50; and gold would be $2,000 per ounce. This is not a forecast, because policy can change; rather it is an indication of how much systemic risk the government is now creating.
Richard Russell's comments from May 29
May 29, 2009 -- Economists' sentiment -- Ninety percent of economists expect the recession to end this year, according to a National Association for Business Economics poll. But 74% thought the recession will end during the first quarter of 2010.
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What are the two most difficult things to do in this business? Here they are: (1) Buy early in a primary bull market and then ride the bull market all the way to near its completion. (2) Sell out on a Dow Theory bear signal, and then stay out of the bear market until it's nearly completed.
Why are those two actions so difficult? They're difficult because a bull market tries in every way to frighten you out of its clutches. And a bear market tries in every way to draw you back into its grip. In both situations, both the bull and the bear markets make full use of secondary reactions.
The reaction (correction) against the prevailing primary trend is the curse of the investor. One of the most difficult tasks in investing is to identify the start of a downside correction in a bull market or an upside correction in a bear market.
As I write, many of the smartest and most experienced veterans in this business disagree as to whether we are now dealing with a rally in an ongoing bear market or a new bull market that started from the March 9 low.
I've taken the stand that what we're experiencing is a bear market rally. I've discussed my reasons for this designation ever since March 9. The current advance started without the usual signs of accumulation. The advance began without the usual great values that are characteristic of a classic bear market bottom (i.e., price/earnings in the 5 to 8 area and dividend yields around 5-6%).
Lowry's valuable statistics have been available for over 70 years. Normally, as a bear market nears its final low, Lowry's Selling Pressure Index sinks dramatically, thereby providing evidence that the supply of stocks for sale is sinking. The Selling Pressure Index continues to decline after the bottom has passed. This is NOT what has happened before or since the March 9 lows.
On the low of March 9 Lowry's Selling Pressure Index stood at 884. At yesterday's close the Selling Pressure Index stood 868, only 14 points lower than it was on March 9. Meanwhile, on March 9 Lowry's Buying Power Index stood at 120. At yesterday's close, Buying Power was at 156, which was a gain of 36 points from the March 9 low.
So since March 9 Buying Power advanced at twice the pointage as Selling Pressure declined. What is obvious is that the advance was powered mainly by buying, not by an easing of selling. This is NOT typical of new bull markets of the past, when Buying Power rising pointage tended to match Selling Power loss of pointage. What's happening now is that any easing of Buying Power leaves the market virtually unchanged. To move the stock market higher in a healthy way, Buying Power must rise while Selling Pressure must decline. As things stand, there's still too much Selling Pressure (supply) built into this market.
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Gold -- Gold is now trading decisively above its resistance level of 960. The upside target now is the high around 1003. Again I want to remind subscribers that we don't trade in-and-out during a primary bull market. We stay with the rising trend and buy more during the sporadic corrections.
Many gold fans sold out months ago when gold broke below the 960 resistance level. Now with gold well above 960, these sellers are out of gold and don't know what to do. Lesson -- you don't try to out-trade and out-smart a bull market. You ride on the back of the bull and add more on corrections.
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Bonds -- The bond market dwarfs the stock market, which is only one of the reasons why the bond market is so important. From an investment standpoint, stocks are always competing with bonds. In a corporation, bonds (since they represent debt) have a priority over stocks (stocks are equity) on liquidation. Bonds are considered generally safer than stocks since most bonds have a maturity date. When you buy a bond, at some future date you are supposed to get your money back, usually at par which is 100. When you buy a stock, there's no guarantee that at any date you'll get your money back.
Bond yields are always in competition with stock yields. Bond yields are typically fixed and are to be paid regularly while stock dividends (yields) may vary or they may be raised or they may even be omitted at the option of the company. Bonds are sensitive to many factors -- bond yields set the general level of interest rates, depending on the maturity of the bond.
Recently, the Treasury notes (they are the bellwethers of the bond market) have acted poorly. The longer the maturity of a bond, the greater the risk, since, for instance, on a 30-year maturity bond you are tying up your money for three decades, and who knows what will happen (particularly to the dollar or inflation) in 30 years.
The bond has been collapsing over recent days -- yesterday the 30 year T-bond lost almost three points (almost 30 dollars per thousand). As the bond sank, its yield rose. Since bond yields compete with stock yields, this put pressure on the stock market. It also put pressure on all US creditors who own T-bonds. The US today depends on selling its bonds, many to foreign creditors. For instance, China owns $750 billion in US bonds, and China is not happy about what's happening to the US bond market -- and it is saying so.
If the bonds remains weak, how will the US sell additional bonds? The US will have to raise rates in order to render the bonds more attractive. Rising rates in a time of recession is the last thing the government and the Fed want. Therefore, the action of the bond market is now critical. It is one of my BIG THREE -- bonds, the dollar, and gold. Bonds have been supported by the Fed's buying. Dollar was very weak today, breaking to a new low for the move. Gold surged over 17 dollars, well above the 960 resistance level.
Check out the daily chart of the 30-year T-bond. Note the coming "death cross" (red arrow) as the 50-day moving average is about to sink below the red 200-day MA. MACD at the bottom of the chart is in its negative mode.
(Bloomberg) -- Yields on Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac mortgage bonds rose for a fourth day, after exceeding for the first time yesterday their levels before the Federal Reserve announced it would expand purchases to drive down interest rates on loans.
Yields on Washington-based Fannie Mae’s current-coupon 30-year fixed-rate mortgage bonds climbed to 4.55 percent as of 3:15 p.m. in New York, the highest since Dec. 5 and up from 3.94 percent on May 20, data compiled by Bloomberg show.
Rising mortgage-bond yields, driven higher in part by climbing Treasury rates, means the Fed now “faces a challenge to its ability to sustain low mortgage rates,” according to Jeffrey Rosenberg at Bank of America Corp. The Fed, seeking to use lower home-loan rates to stem the housing slump and bolster consumers, said March 18 it would increase its planned purchases of so-called agency mortgage bonds by $750 billion, to as much as $1.25 trillion, and start buying government notes.
Treasuries fell for a fifth day amid concern record supply will overwhelm investor demand as the economy begins to show signs of stability. The U.S. will likely sell $3.25 trillion of Treasuries in the fiscal year ending Sept. 30 to fund bank bailouts, stimulus spending and a record budget deficit, according to primary dealer Goldman Sachs Group Inc.
Ten-year notes have lost 10.3% this year, according to Merrill Lynch & Co. indexes, while 30-year bonds have lost 27.5%. Two-year notes have gained 0.2%.
Russell Comment -- The Fed's efforts to halt the bear market and halt the decline in asset values are in the process of busting the nation. Can you believe -- an insane $3.25 trillion of Treasury bonds to sell? How can the dollar hold up? Will all those bonds be sold, or will the auction fall flat?
Stock market notes -- The stock market acts like a living, thinking organism. If Industrials rally to a new high above their May 8 peak of 8574.65, it looks as though the Transports won't confirm -- bearish. If both Averages sink from here, they'll be in a trading range. But if both Averages decline too far, they'll be violating their March 9 lows. It "feels" as though the market doesn't want to get into trouble by way of a new unconfirmed Dow high -- or by way of new lows below their March 9 lows in both Averages. The solution -- a "safe" trading range where nothing is accomplished. Why do I get the feeling that there's a lot of manipulation going on here?
The VIX was down 1.32 to 30.35.
Late Notes -- Today was the second plus 8 in a row for my PTI. That would suggest a possible new Dow high next week and the question is will it be confirmed by the Transports?
Today's feature was another rise in gold. But this time the rise was 17 points and I have to wonder whether gold is ready to go parabolic. Gold has been in its corrective mode for many months and thus a lot of energy has been stored up in the yellow metal.
This is the end of the month -- will it be "sell in May and go away," or "June is busting out all over?"
I sense excitement coming up.
See you in June,
Russell
Re: Exploding Debt Threatens America
Les,
My Treasuries mutual fund was a wild ride this week (I had sold only about half.), but ended virtually unchanged. I think monetization is the plan, but still doubt their ability to achieve the goals.
I found the plan to give more power to the Fed most disturbing this week.
Committee Urges Stronger US Fed, Fewer Regulatory Agencies
http://tiny.cc/xqlof
My post yesterday:
Yes, and the whole country's as well. Just wait and see what "they" can do when the whole market is centralized under the Fed. It brings to mind the centralized power in 1932 Germany when Hindenburg died and all control passed to one person — Adolf Hitler.
This AM a friend sent me an article by David Kaiser, professor in the Strategy and Policy Department of the United States Naval War College, who previously taught history at Carnegie Mellon, Williams College and Harvard University.
"We learned just days ago that the Federal Reserve, which has little or no real oversight by anyone, has "loaned" two trillion dollars (that is $2,000,000,000,000) over the past few months, but will not tell us to whom or why or disclose the terms. That is our money. Yours and mine. And that is three times the $700 billion we all argued about so strenuously just this past September. Who has this money? Why do they have it? Why are the terms unavailable to us? Who asked for it? Who authorized it? I thought this was a government of "we the people", who loaned our powers to our elected leaders. Apparently not."
He goes on to make a similar comparison to Germany in the 1930s...
"How did he [Hitler] get people on his side? He did it by promising jobs to the jobless, money to the money-less, and rewards for the military-industrial complex. He did it by indoctrinating the children, advocating gun control, health care for all, better wages, better jobs, and promising to re-instill pride once again in the country, across Europe, and across the world. He did it with a compliant media did you know that? And he did this all in the name of justice and ... change. And the people surely got what they voted for."
Re: Exploding Debt Threatens America
Grym - ""We learned just days ago that the Federal Reserve, which has little or no real oversight by anyone, has "loaned" two trillion dollars (that is $2,000,000,000,000) over the past few months, but will not tell us to whom or why or disclose the terms. That is our money. Yours and mine. And that is three times the $700 billion we all argued about so strenuously just this past September. Who has this money? Why do they have it? Why are the terms unavailable to us? Who asked for it? Who authorized it? I thought this was a government of "we the people", who loaned our powers to our elected leaders. Apparently not.""
There's one important aspect left out of the discussion here. If the FED loaned out $2 trillion over the past few months, from where did they obtain this money?
Re: ah yes here's the payoff from that close we just saw
davefairtex - "Commodity price inflation due to the drop in the dollar does not bless all stocks equally. It helps some companies, while it hurts others."
True, and a rising tide lifts all boats (except those with holes in their hulls). This is in many ways similar to the deflation/inflation argument as is all a part of the juggling act being orchestrated by the FED/Treasury/Central Banks.
I'm anticipating a version of Mr. Toad's wild ride.
Meanwhile - Good trade on the TBT, I suppose the re-entry should work in quite the same manner and the gaps up/down could catch us off guard on the big moves.
Re: Exploding Debt Threatens America
If the FED loaned out $2 trillion over the past few months, from where did they obtain this money?
From a little mouse perhaps?
Re: 30 year rates
Bobbyo, thanks for asking! Actually we are busier than we have been for months... not all productive. Seems this market has brought out a lot of unsophisticated buyers who are operating under naiive impressions based on their friends experiences in '05-'06 I.e. easy money. The more seasoned buyers are shocked to see how much higher they must jump for financing but are eagerly snapping up the mounting shortsales. Value erosion is still single digits ( 7-8%) locally but foreclosures are putting pressure on sales. Homebuilding has ground to a halt. Some of the big developers are in bankruptcy proceedings with higher priced inventory that is killing certain pricepoints >$400K. So jumbos are not huge right now but great refi option. Refinancing is fairly booming helped by the stimulus program and low rates. In general the action seems very dependent on rates staying low to keep payments down. We are doing a ton of FHA due to lower down payment factor (3.5% mimimum). Housing costs here are pretty high in comparison to the average wage earner's income, so USDA is a great 100% program for modest income buyers. I see far more stressed out Investors who are laboring under low rents...many of these are headed for short sale or modification. The Reverse Mortgage (FHA insured) is pretty hot right now for folks over 62 who saw their IRAs or businesses fail. I am also witnessing an uptick in SBA interest due to local banks pulling back on credit lines, etc. Private lenders are more plentiful ..I suspect many are ex wallstreeters! The sun is shining and we are for the time being --making hay!
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