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Cara's Commentary & Community Chat, Mon., Jan. 12, 2009

[7:15am ET] A better TARP? A CNNMoney article asks an important question, but the public is skeptical.

Treasury Secretary nominee Timothy Geithner is working on plans to revamp TARP to include programs to prevent foreclosures and help cash-strapped municipalities, small businesses and consumers, two transition aides told CNN.

Lawmakers on both sides of the aisle have expressed unhappiness with the way Treasury used the first $350 billion to capitalize banks. They object to how Treasury made investments with few strings attached and no process for tracking how the banks are using the money.

They also are unhappy that none of the $350 billion allocated so far has been used to prevent foreclosures. And while problems facing credit markets have eased since the passage of TARP, the program has hardly been a panacea.

Consequently, leading Democratic lawmakers told Treasury officials that Congress would only release the remaining $350 billion if Treasury guaranteed that some of the money would go toward helping those at risk of foreclosure and consumers in search of loans for cars and homes, among other things.

On Friday, House Financial Services Chairman Barney Frank, D-Mass., introduced a bill that would place several restrictions on how Treasury may use the remaining TARP funds.

Frank said in a statement that his legislation "will strengthen accountability, close loopholes, increase transparency and require Treasury to take significant steps on foreclosure mitigation."

For starters, Geithner played a leading role in the decision to recapitalize banks, and which banks would be recipients of the taxpayers’ largesse in the form of the first $350 billion.

“Helping those at risk of foreclosure and consumers in search of loans for cars and homes” seems to (i) help high-risk speculators who bought multiple homes for re-sale at a profit, and (ii) stop whatever demand for new and used vehicles exists today while buyers will simply wait to see the new deals they can expect in a month or two.

Finally, in terms of the words “strengthen accountability, close loopholes, increase transparency…”, where was Barney Frank and his House Financial Services committee when Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac failed to even produce an accounting statement, despite the legislation and the rules of the NYSE? Just more words from politicians.

Without people like Kentucky Sen. Jim Bunning and Texas Rep. Ron Paul leading these committees on banking and financial services, the public’s skepticism is justified.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7ULDnJBA1w

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JAzagrai-0M&feature=related

On another matter, Morgan Stanley is reported to be ready to pay Citigroup $3 billion for the right to control management of Citi's Smith Barney broker-dealer unit. They are not buying it, but only buying the right to exploit it. The terrific people at Smith Barney are merely chattels.

What is really galling is that Morgan Stanley itself needed to be bailed out with mega billions of US taxpayer money and that Tim Geithner played a major role in causing that company to drop its broker-dealer status and become a Fed regulated bank.


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SLW - Out at $6usd pre market

looking for re-entry. but feels good to book that gain, in approx 35 trading days 110% gain. I am sure some of you can do it quicker and better. One of my new yrs resolutions was to actually trade. trying my luck here.

pog

There goes the hs top in gold,it's almost like they painted this one special for o.e. 780 is the po

Cara 100 Ratings Changes

Good morning.

SLB - Price Target Lowered from $100 to $55 @ Argus

cameco

Globe and Mail short postions shows a 12 million increase in Cameco from the last report. Wonder if it was the large volume day (13.5m) on Toronto 12/23?

GG

cancel my open order to buy GG at 26.00
and also order to buy UCO

Re: SLW - Out at $6usd pre market

The 20ema is ~$5.70
The 20sma is ~$5.85

Looks like normal consolidation after it's huge move above $6...

UCO

Vinod,

You also cancelled the uco order or replaced the cancelled gg buy, with uco. i was actually looking at uco. my take was oil isnt going much lower. some refiners have already scaled back production no?

disclosure sitting on cash but looking at oils for near term trade.

Re: SLW - Out at $6usd pre market

you are absolutely correct. I saw a trading range of 5.50-6.50 usd near term, so i wanted to try my luck to sit out the potential move down to 5.50. and maybe get back in there. we shall see if i made my 1st mistake of 2009.

Reason was i saw some weakness in gold, silver, and general markets overight and premarket, so i thought there would be some pressure. then i saw a bid for enough shares sitting at $6 pre market so i took my chance.

TED

down -9.820 now

Re: UCO

Started buying UCO Friday... small position to start that I will add on weakness and near support levels.

I have learned to never start with a full position or even half, especially in this market... it seems tight stops are easily taken out.

I usually transition in and out of positions with an max absolute dollar amount (not percentage) to manage the risk involved and cut losses - otherwise I become prone to watching my positions like I bet on a horse race... which ends poorly.

Re: UCO

Right now I canceled both open order for GG and sco
I only hae SLWCA average cost 1.45 rest is in cash

Re: SLW - Out at $6usd pre market

I have a core SLW position I trade around. I will begin to add at the 20ema and the 20sma

uco and dxo

uco is 2x daily DJ Crude Oil Sub Index...so equities
dxo is 2x Deutsche Bank Liquid Commodities...so this is futures based
Is this correct??

Re: pog

Physical sales on the London markets always produce a price change in the very short term like we're seeing this morning. Take a look at the list of the usual suspects. Diffidence in the gold price on the Tokyo market merely means that the Yen is still holding its own as a currency, the Yen gold chart is the worst, comparatively speaking.

You have to wonder at what point foreign exchange markets will be tapping into grossly undervalued currencies yielding many 100's of points more than either the Yen or the Dollar.

Still at least a week or more before expecting a rally in gold prices. With oil price declines you'll see physical selling on the London market, because the British cultural notion that gold is a barbarous relic won't be reversed any time soon. A change in sentiment as regards oil may occur soon, because its low is technically in place, but can continue lower for a time much like any other market until a denoument occurs.

I would say dependance on brokerages that deal in options/futures contracts outside the COMEX will lead the way in gold prices, though people will eventually have to turn to primary sources for physical delivery.

NYUGrad - Remember that "Cash IS a position."

And it's always nice to have some left when opportunity comes knocking.

Re: pog

well said,

i suspect though that the usual forces are being blamed for the unexplained price movements in the POG.

talk of people accumulating gold bars and difficulty obtaining it havent really seen much higher gold prices as we sit at $830, w/ the USD moving higher again.

w/ crude oil tanking hard its difficult to envision a situation where gold would soar. it seems as though every time Obama talks of a rescue and aid plan the USD jumps higher. the opposite of what most people think should happen noting how many people state all these plans are inflationary.

the rest of the world is very unstable in more ways than one thus whatever made the USD jump higher and faster than most other assests continues to be at play. gold mining companies are still tied to the broader market and have not gained heavy on the lower oil prices which many suggested were holding them back.

markets look to be opening lower and we may see a retest of the SPY lows along w/ the commodity complex, as ive always said for the past few months this is a critical event for gold. if it crashes along w/ everything else we know things are still as bad as they say they are. if it can hold up while everything else is crashing then gold bugs will have the light at the end of the tunnell.

my money is on gold stocks falling hard w/ the market during any downturn and that no decoupling will take place just yet. for that to happen i sincerly believe we would need to see gold move well back above the $950 range in short order to cause a sling-shot rebound in prices.

good luck.

Major League Schmendrick

This guy makes a mockery of the time honored notion of "growing up and becoming president". He is a joke and therefore, so are we. He is, in short, a:

Major League Schmendrick.

hou.to

looks like my initial purchase last week is about to be taken out on the open, tight stop, looking to reload as the price is coming down nicely, talking heads on cnbc talking $30 oil, guess anything is possible but we will see.

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Cara 100 Update

ATVI - added to Top Picks list at Citigroup. $15 price target. Buy rating.

QCOM - estimates cut at Merrill/BofA to reflect tighter 3G chipset inventories. Company remains positioned well. Buy rating and $42 price target.

Re: oil, gold and silver prices this morning

as my daughter would say, "Whatever"...can anyone really game the day to day moves?

GG- adding at 25.85...

at 60% of allocation...

Agreed Doctor

Tend to agree with you Dr. However the volatility in the gold price does provide good trading opportunities in the more celebrated gold stocks. Great traders market.

5000 people drowned causing a political crisis in Washington

"I thought long and hard about Katrina..."

-Schmendrick.

Re: oil, gold and silver prices this morning

...can anyone really game the day to day moves?

Good question. On Friday I thought I had missed a good entry on DXO @ $2.90 as it seemed to be a key reversal day. Today it gaps down 6% and I can enter at $2.80. But I'm not.

Volatility is back in the ascendant and position trades more difficult to manage. IMHO.

shark- do you have a take on AA earnings

tonight?

RIMM

Have any of you noticed how RIMM has been going up even in a down market ?

Disclosure: I have 100 RIMM.

Sell or hold ? A million dollar q...

UYG

Is this ETF still universally reviled by the community? I don't think it will re-test the November lows ($3-handle). In the $4's it seems like a good buy and hold for a 3-6 month time frame. It's also paying a nice yield, although that's a fluid situation.

Thanks in advance for any input from the community.

Cara 100 Update

AmTech Research has Downgraded:

AMZN - to Sell. Price Target $35

CSCO - to Neutral

goofy market

I sold USO at opening. Thanks for the advice last night. I will rebuy oil later on.

I heard DRYS is paying dividends today, will that cause a nose dive later today or tomorrow??

Re: pog

We'll know soon enough whether the UK along with the Eurozone are contemplating lower interest rates to zero, which is probably in the cards. This would force vast quantities of money into the bunds and gilts and what have you. It would not come as a surprise if gold was coming out of the woodwork from central bank coffers to limit any upside in order that it gets carried off.

A rise in bond prices had the effect of limiting prices in gold, though a bonds sell-off will occur if the quantitative easing plan fails. If it can be done in Japan, they say, it can be imposed on the globe.

But I think its very true that investment demand for gold is very high if Sprott can buy 400oz. bars, take them to the mint and stamp out the coins for sale at a premium. This is backwardation made plain.

Re: shark- do you have a take on AA earnings

2nd,

My take on AA earnings is just the same stuff everyone knows. It looked great on the charts a couple of weeks back, then they announced massive jobs/production cuts, tonight they are announcing what will most likely be disappointing earnings. It's already re-crossed the buy prices on all my AA picks, my rules stating that a profitable position, held for days, that re-crosses is a sell. Very disappoining.

Re: pog

When do they announce the interest rate adjustment, its this week some time i believe.

Speaking of AMZN

Speaking of AMZN... Maybe this is a symptom of something else, maybe not.

An order I placed in November, intended for Xmas:

Order Date: Nov 19 2008
Order #: 702-33758xx-xxxxx
Items not yet shipped:
Delivery estimate: Dec 8 2008 - Dec 9 2008

No shipment, and I get no answer from them.

TCK

Back into TCK @ $5.30

Re: pog

Haven't been following the interest rate regimes and the announcements of changes, just follow the forex sites for the current rates. Keep a watch, though a politically unacceptable and faulty "solution" to deflation will now be imposed around the world. Quantitative easing DOES NOT stop deflation, but imposes massive currency risk. The way they pay for it, is multiples in higher prices calling it "price control." This will also mean wage controls or restrictions as well.

Fancy making the same as the Chinese?

Cold Weather ?

Some of the coldest weather of the season is coming into the midwest this week - this used to effect energy prices.

Re: shark- do you have a take on AA earnings

Was also hoping for better with this issue; still holding a small position (my time horizon is a little longer). Most guesses are flat to a loss, maybe -.20, but that would seem to be priced in. Resistance now seems to be at 12, with possible support at 9 or 10?

Why did they wait til Monday to sell it off though?

Re: goofy market

vanillabean - DRYS - The stock would fall on the ex-dividend day, as the day before is the owner record date. If you want to collect the dividend, you must own the stock on the record date. The ex-dividend date is the day the stock trades except dividend.

I hope you didn't loose on your USO, we could be close to a bottom on oil...

Re: Speaking of AMZN

fwiw, my wife places orders often, and has had no problems...

Watching SU

they own all the Sunoco gas stations. i like the long base it put in since october. had a bullish move from new yrs. Would like it more on pull back to its 50 day moving avg.

I filled up 93 octane at $1.85 usd. pretty crazy to me.

USO

Hi Chicken,

Yes, I broke even on the USO when I sold it this morning. I will rebuy it when it starts going back up.

(I held UCO just in case this is the oil bottom.

Everything is tanking (except palm), I am down 1000.00 right now for the day..

Re: TCK

I like that trade too. Wrote the Feb $5 puts (10 contracts = $710) this morning...

Re: goofy market

If one holds a stock at closing before the ex-div day but sells it after hours, do you still get the dividend?

Cara 100 Update (Final)

Seems that AmTech Research is bent on Downgrading the Cara 100 today. Add these to the list:

DELL - to Sell
GRMN - to Sell
NOK - to Sell

Also:

LLTC - Price Target Lowered from $24 to $19 @ Barclays

immediate top?

I studied charts this weekend as well as sentiment indicators and come to conclusion that 1/5/09 was perhaps a short term top and we will retest the Nov 08 lows, a la early 2003. Anyone cares to poke some holes in this hypothesis? I'm looking into selling any long positions (except for underwater energy and very green TBT on 5% stop loss autopilot) and reloading short 3x ETF.

BTW, by pure luck, I sold a big chunk gold miners on friday. Today my DZZ got sold at 27.6 premarket for a minimal gain. As usually, I should have held to it a bit longer.

Bentley Convertible

Sharkie, the new Bentley convertible has a 12cyl 600hp engine and will do over 200mph with the top up, about 195mph top down... costs just $121k!!! I'd rather have a new 32ft Sea Ray, or both.

Re: goofy market

"If one holds a stock at closing before the ex-div day but sells it after hours, do you still get the dividend?"

Yes I believe so, but I haven't tested this.

Re: Watching SU re Sunoco gas stn US vs CDN

NYUGrad,

Careful Sunoco US and Sunoco Canada are actually different things with the same name. I think in the old days of SUN OIL there may have been some connections but don't think they exist anymore.

http://www.sunoco.com/

Re: Watching SU re Sunoco gas stn US vs CDN

Yes.

SU is Suncor, the oil sands company, which also has the Sunoco stations in Canada.

SUN is the American refiner Sunoco that markets thru its Sunoco stations in the U.S.

Two separate companies.

Zacks Report on CVX

50 DMAs

All of the main indices are flirting with their 50 DMAs this morning.

Perhaps there will be a large break either way at some point today ? Maybe it is time to buy a put and call on S&P or R2K?

PALM

Palm is definitely Kick A., great pick vanillabean!!!

re china

china will go down along w/ teh rest of the world if economic problems persist.

i find it laughable that people still hold their decoupling theory on china and india somehow having enough development to carry them through relatively unscathed any weakness in north american markets.

the BSE in india has been hit particularily hard w/ one of their flagship companies having reported an enron-like scandal of fake profits.
theres no such thing as 1 cockroach.

i suspect china will suffer additional issues w/ any slowdown and increasing civil unrest taking place there now. i wouldnt touch their stock markets with a 10 foot pole.

i find it telling that many of the same people who entertained the decoupling theory failed to admit their error's from the 2008 crash and are still pushing these ideas of china and india being great place to invest amidst a massive american recession. its hogwash imho.

yuan appreciation and american slowing consumption represent a double knock-out for chineese manufacturing. japan or other large economies will not pick up for american slack, its just too huge.

unfortunately much of the belief in china is predicated on a somewhat racist notion that they are that much smarter than others and somehow immune to the bubble plauging the US, yet will readily ignore the reality that china is one of the larget holders of US debt. they more than most have vested their prosperity on american prosperity.

UCO

bought 1k@11.60

Re: pog

ECB rate announcement is supposed to be on thursday

Re: Watching SU re Sunoco gas stn US vs CDN

jeez. this is what happens when i am half watching while working the day job. no positions. all cash.

CMBX Spreads

They are now spiking upward:
http://www.markit.com/information/products/categor...

TED Spread is down nicely.

Interpretations? Anything not backed by the government is poorly. Commercial mortgage backed securities are not yet backed by the government. Anything else that is backed is doing well.

Stopped out of

MDR,SNDK (took a little hit, Todd),KWT,TBT.

SAY capitulated this AM (RSI 7 day <10). buy limit .93.

about 34% cash now.

Do your own homework.

UCO

Sold 1K @ tiny profit. Spot oil has been a falling knife all morning!

Re: CMBX Spreads

Re: TED. I noticed that TED was going down in early 2008 with the sliding markets, so it is not a good indicator of market turns, except when is spiking rapidly, correlating with bottoms.

automakers

Anyone planning to short US automakers between the auto show (now) and the bailout reevaluation (end of Q1 09 IIRC)?

TZA

Once again the leader

Re: TZA

Yap, I was planning to reload today at a better price, but may not be able to.

Re: re china #6272

Dr. Cosa, I agree on Chindia. Watched a recent show where the new city workers in China were boarding trains back to the farm areas they migrated from.

IO

3 day downtrend. buy stop 2.77/2.80.

Max pain 7.50 for jan

do ur own homework.

GE

Keeping this one up on the tracker and its seems to be a good replacement for the overbought Treasury notes as of late. Happy Trading

Madoff heads to court this am.

The investing public wants vigilante justice even though most were not directly affected by the Madoff ponzi scheme. Seems Madoff's victims were mainly the well to do predators of the working people. So, why is the general investing populace so concerned with landing a hard left jab cheap shot at the back of Bernie's head, or even a boot to the ribs while he is down on the ground? Listen to all the news channels and people are feed shovels full of crap about how terrible a person Madoff is. Why? The wall street thieves are feeding the news wires to take the focus off their greedy Ponzi schemes. Where did the 350 billion in TARP dollars go......WALL STREET! These HB&B wall streeters have no conscious when it comes to fleecing the retirement accounts of the working people that are gated by laws that prevent them from managing their own retirement accounts instead of leaving it to the so called money managers that know little or nothing about actually managing retirement money.
If the working people were allowed, by law, to pull all the retirement accounts out of the money managers slimy paws, you would see the same Madoff ponzi scheme, except the term would be the wall streeters ponzi scheme.
I have no doubt, with out all the teacher pension accounts, fireman and policeman retirement accounts, state/county highway employee pension accounts, and the millions of other pension accounts that are controlled by laws that keep them completely in the hands of the greedy rich wall street scum, wall street would be the same as Bernie Madoff.
What happened to the rogue trader schemes? the fraud has become so enormous that it can only be described by a Ponzi scheme in the HB&B controlled USSA.
Has deferred compensation been a wise choice for the working poor, knowing that laws prevent their dollars from being managed by themselves, the real owners of the money, instead of the wall street ponzi scheme that hasn't been revealed yet?
Ponzi schemes are only Ponzi schemes if people opted out, that's what happened to Madoff, laws have prevented the wall street Ponzi scheme from ever happening.
If Bernie goes to jail today, it will be mission accomplished by the propaganda machine of HB&B rich and greedy. Wall Street will blame his Ponzi scheme, and keep theirs going full steam ahead until laws are reversed and working people are allowed to manage their own deferred compensation.

vinod- even the remote possibility of +1000 has OEX calls

on my watchlist...(fwiw)...

Re: TZA

Jack Black, this is the 4th up day for TZA. I just don't have the courage to buy it here. But I am watching other things, like PMs: SLV & SLW, etc

Re: vinod- even the remote possibility of +1000 has OEX calls

2nd
Somehow I have feeling that we may go much lower in market/oil/gold
Doing nothing right now

Re: Madoff heads to court this am.

If this judge does not pull Bernie's bail, there will be rioting pensioners and old grande dames breaking windows up and down Madison Ave.

APWR

very good deal for them with GE...I think this validates that APWR is a major player in the wind business. I'm looking to buy some stock and calls today.

bernie

He gets to stay in house arrest.

NO JUSTICE! PATHETIC -

Re: bernie

NO JUSTICE! PATHETIC

Keep one thing in mind with your Madoff prejudgment call, laws are made to protect the rich and greedy and are difficult to reverse with out repercussions up the wealth ladder.
This is just one small example of why a two class society we live in benefits only the privileged class, not the victims of the privileged class.
Madoff has been charged, but not found guilty.

Its not rocket science to me anymore.

Bloomberg - "Money coming out of stocks and going into bonds"

Can someone please straighten me out on the mechanics of what they're talking about. How does money "come out" of the stock market? Doesn't money go in via IPOs and secondary offerings, and out via dividends and other returns of capital?

Please fix my brain on this... thanks

Re: bernie

What is not fair is that Bernie has the Money to Pay for Ira Sorkin as his lawyer. This is why he is off.

And, if I am angry, others will be as well. This mean less confidence in the stock market

RE: APWR

I just bought a bunch of $5 Feb Calls on APWR at $1.25. I also bought stock. I think this is a great long term winner and has a lot of short term momentum to it.

They have over $2/share in cash and are projected to earn $0.70/share this year and $1.20/share next year. The company is trading at a little over 5 times current year's earnings ex-cash and 3 times forward earnings. The GE joint venture puts the nail in the coffin for naysayers who doubted the legitimacy of this company. They will be bringing on a new CFO in the coming weeks, which only adds to the legitimacy.

Re: Madoff heads to court this am.

Madoff will remain free on bail.

Let's use tarp money to bail

Let's use tarp money to bail out the Madoff victims. As well as the victims of alien space-ray transmissions.

Re: Bloomberg - "Money coming out of stocks and going into ...

More sellers than buyers forces equity prices down, therefore money flows out of the market. The inverse is true also.

Re: Bloomberg - "Money coming out of stocks and going into ...

I understand that selling pressure moves the price down, but how does that result in a net outflow? I was an accounting major many years ago and I didn't learn much, but I did learn that there are always 2 entries for each transaction (in this case a buy and sell).

Chinese electric vehicle

Chinese company BYD already selling plug-in electric hybrid vehicle as of December 2008, “at least a year ahead of similar efforts in the U.S. and Japan.”

“Electric cars use only basic motors and gearboxes, and have relatively few parts” . . . “thus with electric vehicles, we’re all at the same starting line.”

Safety a concern, as some lithium batteries “have shown a tendency to overheat and sometimes catch fire.” Company Chairman Wang states “BYD’s batteries use a new technology that makes them safer than other lithium batteries.”

http://tinyurl.com/73z5jk

(WSJ online; may require subscription)

Trades Today

-Lifted TBT at 40.85, sold $41 calls at .78 (5 days to expiry)
-KBR at 15.90, get a lift here right now, SPY breaking above 1 hr ma's, will fade any rally with selling calls
-Bought and sold SDS 3 times
-I don't mind GE here and write the $16 Jan calls, and then write the Febs next Monday

Re: Chinese electric vehicle

Quite a vehicle Seamus. $22k is right around my price point, $40k isn't. So why are our estemed politicians bailing out the UAW? ...oh yeh, it would look bad to invest taxpaer money in a Chinese auto company, better to lose it in the US bailing out the UAW and their $40K Volt.

AA Jan Puts

Any one interested in selling Jan AA puts for .64 cents, if assigned cost of AA 9.36, if not assigned quick premiun reward.

EXAS

Check out EXAS.

FD - no exposure and this is not a recommendation

Re: EXAS

Friday's news release:
Sequenom Inc. (SQNM), which makes genetic analysis products for research
application, has made a bid to acquire Exact Sciences Corp. (EXAS) for $1.50 a share, valuing the maker of stool-based DNA screening technologies at $41 million. Shares of Sequenom slipped 1% to $22.80 in late trading, and Exact Sciences was halted

shark's victims of alien space-ray transmissions

Too lazy to wear an aluminum lining in their hats? No govt bailout for them.

Re: Bloomberg - "Money coming out of stocks and going into ...

I'm no accounting major, but here's how I see it:

seller#1 @ $35, if he bought @ $45 he takes $10 out of market, buys $35 USD
buyer #2 @ $35, sells $35 USD
seller#2 @ $25, takes another $10 out of market buys $25 USD " "
buyer #3 @ $25, sells $25 USD
seller#3 @ $15, takes another $10 " "
buyer #4 @ $15, sells $15 USD

Value isn't destroyed, it is transferred: Total $30 moves out of market to USD?

Long SLW

Long SLW

Support

Looks for now like 8500 is support for the DOW.<---So much for that comment!

Crude production lifting costs

Posted earlier today by rocinant:

Those numbers look more like what each country needs to be selling oil at for a balanced budget. See http://www.eia.doe.gov/neic/infosheets/crudeproduc... for some costs for production.

I had read somewhere recent Saudi costs of ~$2/bbl.

Re: Long SLW

Spot slvr is down -0.52 presently, this looks like a good trade. I'll be watching and perhaps following with a trade.

Re: uco and dxo

mikede: UCO invests in oil futures of approximately 3-month duration, while DXO invests into oil futures of approximately 1-year duration.

Re: Bloomberg - "Money coming out of stocks and going into ...

This is in response to original comment 6296.

The major funds and asset managers are always moving around allocations.
So while you are correct about a buyer of stocks and a seller of stocks cancelling each other out, it is the fund managers that take the proceeds from the sale of stocks and RE-INVEST in bonds, thereby increasing their allocations to bonds. Many individual stock investors do not do this on a daily basis, most just buy and sell stocks. Their asset allocation differential is stocks and cash (or margin).

But the fund managers, who are often tracked and interviewed by Bloomberg et al, were flowing funds from stocks to bonds today (changing asset mix in portfolio).

Hence the headlines during the day about money flowing from stocks to bonds.

Hard to make a buck today.....

......unless you are shorting and held through the weekend.

UCO

Out of all my UCO@12.05 at a slim profit and feel lucky to not have been cut by my knife juggling act today.

Golden Conundrum

Interesting to see gold down today by about $35 while the USD is only up about 0.24. I recall in the last couple of weeks that the USD was down a whopping 1.10 and gold only rose about $5. I guess gold is only priced in USD on the downside?

money in and out of market

Brown-cal is right...

you sell your stock for $35 someone buys it for $35. You now have $35 of cash in your cash account, they have $35 of stock.
Before you owned $35 of stock and they had the Cash.
If you sell later at $25 for loss, you lost $10 of value. Still, $25 of sideline cash comes into play for your $25 of stock. Sideline cash is unchanged (never changes) but value of stock is not (value of stock always changes unless it is for the same transaction cost).

fear or greed will determine what value of transaciton the person who bought your stock will have. fear moves market by creating a supply of sellers or a demand of buyers.

Money only enters the stock market through IPOs and secondaries/conversions. Not by daily trades. granted the actual value of the market changes value.

symantics... money on sidelines is not a bullish indicator.

PMs

Gls & Slvr spot continues to fall, DGP is now lower than it was on 12/12. Still watching, not buying.

SLW

I got shellacked in SLW on small size, I would be careful.

trades for today

My buy limit order for 100 shares of USO was triggered at $31. I have another buy limit order for 100 shares of USO at $29. If that one gets triggered as well, then I'll have a small (but reasonable) position in USO that I will hold long-term. I already have 500 shares of UCO, which I will trade on market fluctuations.

The buy limit order at $1.48 was triggered for 2000 shares of WGW, replacing the 2000 shares I sold on Friday at $1.65. My next buy limit order as at $1.25 for 3000 shares. Also, I have just placed a sell limit order at $1.68 for the 2000 shares I bought today.

A little while ago I bought 200 more shares of UYG at $4.76 -- I am slowly accumulating it for the long-term.

SLW 5.50 usd critical area of support

I normally would be holding still and wondering if i should sell at 5.50. making the sale at 6, expecting a fall to 5.50 paid off. now just watching overall mkts, slv, gld, gg, and volumes for sign to re-enter or wait.

let's see if 5.50 is defended.

Re: SLW

buy limit executed @ $5.53

Re: SLW

I did well with SLW last week. But this week I'm watching SLV and the oils. SLV is looking prettier by the minute. I'm almost ready to get hitched.

Gold crashes

Kaimu will one day trade his useless gold bullion for deep fried banana leaves and creamed poi and pineapple sandwiches.

Re: money in and out of market

So then why does a major financial news organization like Bloomberg report it as money coming out of x and going into y. And not just say "stocks moving down and treasuries moving up".

It is one thing for them to make ridiculous attempts to identify the catalysts for each move. But reporting the moves as money flows is factually incorrect.

Re: money in and out of market

oops (double post)

"Do not be fooled"

I think I just was, via my GG stop. Time will tell. Just heard Art Cashin talking about how traders think deflation is taking hold. This PMs vs Dollar thing is quite a battle.

Re: APWR

I have held APWR since early 2008. It took a drubbing last year, but I still think it has strong potential for a speculative stock. They developed a previous relationship with Fuhrlander when they initiated their windpower program and on Sunday, January 11, 2009 dedicated their new assembly plant for turbine production. Today's news about a pact with GE to build rotor assemblies is another crucial piece to their growth in Chinese windpower. They seemed to have an inside track with the Chinese government for continued orders, support, etc. but time will tell. JST (Jinpan International) is another impressive Chinese smallcap that seems to have great potential, though 2008 was a difficult year for that stock, too. I have held both for a year or more and hope the investment pays off down the road. For now, both seem very cheap considering their growth potential.

adding to UCO @ 11.80

at 40% of allocation....

Oil Trade

A question about oil play for you all,

So, there seems to be 3 oil funds, USO, UCO, and DXO.

By looking at 52 week high, DXO seems to offer the biggest room for an upside, which probably means high risk as well.

Any thoughts?

SLV

bought 1k@10.518

Re: Gold crashes

It pains me to think I almost sold a week ago @ $888. This Sunday's opening passed without delivering that occasional happy feeling. :)

Earnings season.....

Be careful kids, we are heading into earnings and it's hard to get a break when the numbers are likely to be very disappointing. They are already trying to soften the blow of what is to come in the financials. I think we may see opportunities to buy at November like prices.

Oil Co. Equities

Oil equities taking a hit today, bearish for oil or a head fake?

Pretty nasty day overall

worse than the overall indices reflect.

Re: Oil Trade

check out ERX 3X Energy Bull (Direxion)

Re: Oil Trade

I hope anyone holding ERX from last Tuesday has plenty of valium.

Re: Oil Trade

DXO - If the July 09 crude future reaches $20.5 this month the DB notes can be recalled at a price of $0. July 09 opened the month around $41, if my memory is correct, so the 50% note clause could trigger if this contract makes $20.5 and -> Shareholders loose immediately.... Not much chance???

david

thanks

DIG vs UCO

I will def do my own research but wanted to get other's takes. as both are betting on oil rising.

DIG seems more liquid. 13M shares today vs UCO's 4.6M

TNA

bought TNA @ $28.35

TBT

I hot stopped from TBT with a small profit. I knew the markets were turning but I hoped for up day to unwind some of my holding at a better profit. It feels like part 2 of deleveraging started.

S&P 500 Earnings

I think it is instructive to read the following articles on John Hussman's site before continuing the debate on this topic:

http://www.hussmanfunds.com/wmc/wmc081110.htm
http://www.hussmanfunds.com/rsi/badnewsbulls.htm

Here are some quotes from those articles:

“It will help to be careful about the analysis of valuations, because there are a lot of bad arguments being thrown around. Among the most misleading are calculations about potential risk and fair value based on current earnings, without normalizing them in some way. Some analysts are talking about how low earnings might go in a deep recession, and what P/E multiple might be applied to them at the trough, based on P/E multiples at other bear troughs. That sort of analysis strikes me as coarse and unhelpful, since the extent of the earnings contraction varies dramatically from one bear market to the next. There's no such object as a “P/E on trough earnings” – at least nothing well-behaved.”

“It's best to tune out any forecast for the performance of next year's stock market that is based on expectations for near-term earnings growth. There's almost no correlation between year-over-year earnings growth and stock market performance. But the habits of investors are hard to break, and the focus on quarterly earnings is unlikely to dim soon.”

The way I look at it is that stocks usually do not move when earnings come out as predicted. That is, if S&P 500 earnings DO come out at $42 in 2009, then this information by itself should not affect stocks. Why hasn't S&P 500 collapsed already, if the “official” prediction of its earnings for 2009 currently stands at $42, implying a current P/E ratio of about 20 (which is unusual for recessions)? Maybe that's because the investors feel that earnings in 2010 will be much higher than in 2009? There is currently a debate about the extent to which the monetary and fiscal stimulus will demonstrate itself in 2009. But most people agree that its impact in 2010 will be very noticeable. So investors are probably looking out beyond 2009 and hence are not selling down S&P 500.

A finishing quote from John Hussman: “Stock valuations should only be based on measures that are somehow representative of the long-term stream of cash flows that can be expected from that point onward. Trough earnings are not helpful in that regard.”

Re: TNA

nice timing CP. caught an updraft right after you posted that. I added to my TNA at 28.61. Due for a bounce. Wrote puts today on TCK, ERX, and SLW.

Re: Earnings season.....

C reports Thursday, chances are it will be their turn to dive on their fake rubber sword. HB&B has a keen sense of when and who is going to release their billion dollar losses.
Chances are the Madoff petri dish was licked clean by those HB&B CEO's, and it will be a long time before positive change takes place, and greedy CEO's start turning themselves into the nearest maximum security prison.
Paulson needs to lead the pack!

Re: TNA

Good idea to fade the market on such a panic move. Short term trade only though.
In retrospect, I left a lot of money on the table selling TZA on Friday. For some reason I thought the market would go up today.

The automakers are rallying strongly today (on the auto show?). Planning to short them soon.

Monsanto Gap Filled

Monsanto Gap Filling and on the 50 ema, long.

S&P 866

FWIW.....the 38.2% retrace of the move from 741.02 - 943.85 is 866.35.

50% and 61.8% retraces are at 842.44 and 818.50, respectively.

What a shellacking for commodities today. Beaten with the ugly stick.....

Re: S&P 500 Earnings

Thanks David, Great post!!!

Re: S&P 500 Earnings

Thanks David! Helpful post.

Profile of Madoff whistleblower Harry Markopolos

SLW - back in at $5.58 usd

hope it holds 5.50.

Re: SLW - back in at $5.58 usd

Good Luck NYU. I'm out a hea

Gold

I found what looks like an interesting post on controling gold prices. Any comments.

http://www.investorvillage.com/smbd.asp?mb=144&mn=...

Re: Gold crashes

Shark:

"Kaimu will one day trade his useless gold bullion for deep fried banana leaves and creamed poi and pineapple sandwiches."

HA!

Did I ever ever ever in any way say anything critical of you? In the unlikely event that is so, I take it all back a hundredfold.

AA halted.

Loss of $1.49 a share or just over a billion in Q4 - !!!

Re: S&P 500 Earnings

I wrote about this in part last night and I agree to a certain extent because when the write offs end, which i think will happen some time in the first half of 2010, earnings will bounce pretty well for the banks. The only issue is banks will have to significantly raise their capital levels, thus diluting future earnings going forward.

Short term I'm worried about BAC. I am worried they will be the next bailout; remember, they bought out MER and CFC, both of whom would now be bankrupt.

Re: SLW - back in at $5.58 usd

thx. the only reason i got back in was after watching the last hour, mostly last 15 min. i saw some defending. then i looked at gg, gld, slv. all down 5% ish. i just cant see gold, silver dropping 10% in 2 consecutive days. I also sold myself that i would be picking up 300 free shares from my position this morning, for doing zero work.

But me = novice.

Re: S&P 500 Earnings

I agree on BAC, stay far away. Let it implode or whatever it does. Not worth a trade, really. Too many other higher probability longs and shorts out there.

@NYUGrad

Buying at a support level is a very fine entry point strategy, good luck with it.

One could have made a killing just trading skf

Buy at $100-110 range, sell when rsi/stoch rolls over, buy at $100-110 range and repeat over and over.

http://tinyurl.com/7drrjb

pretty systematic.

Re: Gold

Eagleone.... thanks for the post. Very interesting!

TJ was right 207yrs ago.

Thomas Jefferson said in 1802:

"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies. If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their currency, first by inflation, then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around the banks will deprive the people of all property until their children wake-up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered."

Citi goes wobbly...

Citi exec gives a preview:

http://tinyurl.com/7nherg

Wanda Sykes on Leno

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MXznKV7rw7k&feature...

One womans take on the bailout, enjoy your evening.

Jefferson quotation

The quotation is false as the terms of inflation and deflation were not used in his time. But it sounds good, especially now.
http://quotationsbook.com/quote/44512/

Any takers on tomorrow?

I'm looking for a higher day to sell TNA (cost 28.8 today), reload TZA and DZZ, and short F and GM. IMHO, gold spot is in a topping mode, hopefully, short term only.

placing a buy order on UYG

Placing a buy limit order at $4.1 so as to increase the number of UYG shares I own by about 1/3. The prices are beginning to look more and more interesting. :) If that order gets executed, then I'll double down on my UYG shares at the Nov. 20 low of $3.75. I started scaling into UYG in very small share lots, so if both of the above limit orders get executed, then I'll still have less than 8% of my portfolio in UYG, which is just enough so as not to regret missing the quadrupling of UYG (from $3.75 to $15) by the end of 2009. :)

gold TA looking weak/ gone short

gone short gold today EOD

i dont like shorting gold but my convictions say that the downward pattern of gold has been fairly consistant the past 2 years, when we have these huge plunges down theres a period of consolidation followed by some sort of brief spike overnight then a hard fall the next session.

gold shares moved down hard along side gold.

nothing has changed since the fall of everything that wasnt a T-bill in 08.
imho, but again, i see absolutely nothing to suggest that there will be any sort of decoupling here in commodities or gold if the broad market falls.

yes gold may fall relatively less than the rest of the market, and im sure you could find a few blue chips stocks that fell relatively less than the S&P but that does not make them inherently better investments.

longer term yes to gold. of course.
short term no. a higher USD looks baked in at this point,
all the action is there to show whats happening.

for those still following the gold bugs advice about now being a great time to buy (now being when gold was $40 higher a few days ago) by all means, continue to peddle more stories of COMEX default, or rising demand for the metal or shortages of gold. none of it has done a thing to make the LONG side money because they have been proven to be total fallacy (or at the very least: plausable ideas way too early to be of any use)

a move back towards the mid 700's on any breach of the market lows is a conservative estimate. remember gold is still in its downtrend from its mid-08 highs. no break of the trend-line no dice.

nothing to suggest USD weakness at the moment either. the russian forex market is collapsing, the indian markets are hemmoraging and the EU is facing serious structural problems (spain's recent downgrade, the first of many EU member drubbings)

china is the only one... for now...

as always ill let you know when im back in.

Re: Earnings season.....

Few questions
There are talk of deflation is taking hold. If it is true, what will be duration of deflation and its effect on market/oil/gold?
Usually fourth quarter earnings are good, now it is going to be bad. So, first quarter 2009 earnings may come in worse than fourth quater of 2008. stock are price in these coming and expected earnings for next quarter also?

playing the upside

There are 3 basic strategies for betting on stocks rising:
- selling at-the-money puts,
- buying shares,
- buying call options
which I have ordered from the most conservative to the most aggressive. John Hussman mentioned several times that one's exposure to the stock market should vary in proportion to the expected long-term returns. As prices fall, one's exposure should be increased. I sold at-the-money ERX puts on Friday (a conservative strategy), since I suspected that ERX might have a further downside. I bought some UYG, WGW and USO today, since expected returns from the current price levels have noticeably increased. If stock prices decline further, I will keep buying shares instead of selling puts, since the expected return from selling puts (most likely due to options expiring) will be smaller than the expected return from buying shares. When I run out of my cash (I'll try to make it last until S&P 500 hits November 20 lows), I'll wait for a few days and will start buying call options on margin, which is the most risky strategy but the one that is most appropriate to a local bottom in stock prices.

Just sharing some thoughts...

Re: gold TA looking weak/ gone short

dr.cosa, what is your exit strategy from your gold short? Are you going to take a quick profit if gold falls tomorrow? Or will you hold your short until you see some technical strength in the gold price? If you do the latter, then you may be covering your shorts at local tops...

John Mauldin titled his 2009 forecast "Recession and deflation." He has been warning about deflation since mid-2008. He doesn't think $USD will fall in the near future, since there is no other currency right now that has a better short-term potential than $USD. Still, he is expecting gold to stay range-bound in 2009 and move strongly up in 2010 (as the impacts of the monetary and fiscal stimulus will become most apparent). I think his view is very reasonable, and I think there is a high chance of gold oscillating in the 700-900 range for 2009. However, if we think that gold will move up strongly in 2010, then instead of shorting gold at local tops and covering at local bottoms, the safer strategy is to buy at local bottoms and sell at local tops, while keeping some core position long-term. That's what I am doing with WGW using automatic limit orders -- scaling in on the way down, scaling out on the way up.

Re: "TJ was right 207 years ago"

QT- I've always thought that most of us, without the 20th/21st century distractions of [telephones, radios, televisions, computers, automobiles, cramped quarters, dense neighborhoods, commutes, compressed educations/schedules/careers, unending worries, and noise in general], would be able to take a thought or an idea, reflect on all of its ramifications, sketch them out on paper, write/rewrite our way to a complete grasp, and follow it through to some kind of gratifying end/ending...I don't know about you, but I just don't have the time...Jefferson, sitting in his study or strolling the grounds of Monticello, had that kind of time...

Re: playing the upside

David- I like the way you're applying your reading of Cara/Mauldin/Hussman/Graifer strategies to 'live' trading (and naturally putting your money on the line)...reminds me of the difference between reading about organic chemical extractions in a textbook, versus the satisfaction of watching yellow crystals form when one successfully isolates nicotine from tobacco leaves in the lab (no particular reason for coming up with that example)...no better way to learn or solidify your understanding of the principles in play...

Re: Earnings season.....

vinod- you were right again, both on market direction and the decision to stay (mostly) sidelined...i should start trading AFTER you make your calls in the morning...(not saying i'm upset about my recent performance...i've gone through many periods similar to the last 3 months, not just as a trader but in every aspect of life; just the way things are)...

Re: gold TA looking weak/ gone short

my plan?

if gold moves back above $860 im stopped out
if gold move below $810 i take partial profit, and again at $785, then i look at the TA from there.

the moves back above are key to watch during these downtrends, note how gold will probally move back up quickly to the $840-850 zone, stop, touch it again then plunge down hard to new lows. basing patterns after plunges generally turn out to be staging areas for further plunges.

as well ive been into gaps lately and i see a considerable gap on the GLD, GDX and ABX charts not much below where we are at now. i think those gaps exert considerable influence on the pivoting of gold's moves these days. the gaps want to be filled. if they get filled w/ long wicks on candle sticks, the i think we turn higher post-fill, but if we get a fill w/ a dark and dirty red candle closing on the low of the gap, we move down from there.

thats my plan and im sticking to it until i see some power in gold. as of now there is none. USD looks like it wants to move higher into the new presidental shift and then some.

Re: "TJ was right 207 years ago"

2nd - "Jefferson, sitting in his study or strolling the grounds of Monticello, had that kind of time..."

Jefferson was an incredible man who accomplished amazing feats numerous times. He was a very deep thinker and perhaps didn't have all the meaningless distractions we face, but I can't agree he simply sat in his study or strolled the grounds of Monticello... he was master of many, truly a unique man. ;)

Re: gold TA looking weak/ gone short

Thanks for sharing your thinking, Dr Cosa. Always enjoy your posts. As for your observation that ...

"china is the only one [currency]... for now... " etc...

I add the perhaps spurious comment that China holds mega US dollars in it's foreign reserves. China (among other countries) would be loath to see those dollars debased. Therefore, perhaps China might do whatever it can, which is considerable, to support the greenback, at least for the nonce.

WW III

As members of this blog probably know, Mark Faber (Mr GloomBoomDoom) has already declared that WWIII has begun in Afghanistan. Forget Iraq, he says, which is rather unimportant in geopolitical terms, whatever its reserves of oil.

But Afghanistan has borders on both China and Russia, as well as Pakistan - nuclear powers all - none of which relish the idea of the longtime presence of US troops in that woebegotten country.

I find this idea interesting to contemplate ... in Jeffersonian terms.

Re: "TJ was right 207 years ago"

CP- not taking away from Jefferson's accomplishments at all...maybe a better comparison would be isolation in a prison cell, or self-imposed isolation in a lighthouse/firewatch tower, all situations which have spawned writers...back in my college days, writing a paper was all but impossible in a dorm room/(shared) apartment-> i had to 'lock' myself in a deserted classroom or alcove with no distractions whatsoever...

BAC really got a major

BAC really got a major spanking today, Citibank is in doubt of their dividend and thinks they're going to be forced to raise capital.

This all seems like a terribly bad dream, a nightmare. Just think of how much money the market has sucked out of all the 401K retirement accounts... All because of the greed and ineptness of a bi-partisan Congress who were too interested in themselves and their own well-being to make and implement sound and common sense fiscal judgment!!!

Truly disgusting!

Re: gold TA looking weak/ gone short

Thanks for your explanation, dr.cosa. Going short gold with a tight stop and nearby profit targets might indeed be a good trade.

Re: "TJ was right 207 years ago"

2nd - I realize you weren't taking away from TJ, at least not on purpose... I'm pretty sure he could have blown both you and I away with both hands tied behind his back... on any subject of his day. I'm contemplating what he could've accomplished with all of our modern "distractions" at his disposal.... I have to assume he'd still blow us away....

Re: Earnings season..... and WW 3

Deflation - expect it to keep a solid grasp of the arena throughout 2009 and 2010. We hopefully should see it start to ease sometime between 2011-2012.

My reasoning is because the fed and the us gov can not inflate our currency from credit expansion. Sure heli ben can quant ease (which isn't doing a thing or hurting the dollar) or he can begin to monetize debt. All of the above will not give consumers confidence to go out and spend. 70% of our economy is consumer driven.

Housing prices are going cliff jumping and spending is now the new saving trend. This theme is a paradigm shift of social economics and people will live more frugally going forward. We have borrowed GDP from the future and now it is time to take our medicine. The bear market will live on for a couple more years.

WW 3 - Faber has a good point but the whole ideal of the war isn't in just Afgan it is in "Chaostan" - the war currently is fought on multiple fronts from mid/northern africa to eastern eu to middle east, stretching to parts of Asia. It most likely won't be one big war but many little wars, look for them to get more intense as the emerging markets debt bubble begins to blow and citizens/serfs look for answers from their government. See all the above plus Russia and China trying to maintain their citizens.

Re: Earnings season.....

2nd
You know that I do not have much experience I market. After taking heavy beating for buying in sept 2008
And from being up 70% to down 15% I now became little more careful. I know how worried I was when I was 100% in market and market going down each day.
But, unless I take the risk I am not going to make money in market. So, I am going with my hunch and feeling about market based on reading of general news about market. Following all post at this site will give me better return than following market guru’s article at major web site like MSNmoney/Bloomberg/cnbc etc
I do feel that we may test low of November and will go lower in oil and metal. There is no demand right now
Craig todays post says it all

Difficult Juncture

I'm finding this a difficult (challenging?) juncture in the markets. Ironically, it may be due to what I perceive as a short term period in which most market participants have a very clear understanding of the risks involved in most assets. For e.g., if that were true, prices (and market direction) would be very efficient and, hence, offer up few opportunities for excess reward.
To be specific, overhanging equities is "earnings angst" - the possibility (understanding?) that earnings are going to be pretty dismal, certainly in this Q1, and the potential impact that is going to have on revaluations in the short term, given low trading volumes, and the overriding knowledge that 1) equities have been hammered and 2) equities will not continue to be hammered indefinately.
Secondly, and not unrelated, debt has recovered substantially and yet still has the potential to offer some reward in certain ratings/class-ranges in the short-term, or just generally, in the intermediate term if markets tread sideways. Additionally, overriding all of this is the extreme movements that have taken place in relative currency moves - do they continue, or do they regress? Finally, I cannot decide on the intermediate effects to inflation of the extraordinary monetary policies that are being adopted worldwide (TIPS moving up, Gold moving down...??).
At this time I am having a much easier time making portfolio decisions which will come to fruition in the longer term (2-5 years) than the for periods <2 years. As such, I am hoping that most asset classes fall in the short term - even the ones I am overweight (because their reinvested distributions are lowering my average cost). I think the markets have tried to go up in the last month, or so, but the volume has not returned, and so we will have to reprice downwards a bit and try again. I don't think this is a bad thing and unlike Oct-Nov, volatility indices are showing that this is being done more rationally now. Bill's constant admonition for us to "wait for prices to come to you" is buzzing constantly in my mind as I eye 3-4 assets I want, but not quite at this price. Patience is really going to pay off here I venture.

CP, Thanks

Thanks for the headsup on your comments on BAC this weekend. Your comment caused me to sell my shares in the pre-market before going to work. I broke even on the sale but now I can see myself buying much lower soon. I assume after the quarterly report. I sold at 12.95.

Re: Difficult Juncture

Mac- "At this time I am having a much easier time making portfolio decisions which will come to fruition in the longer term (2-5 years) than the for periods <2 years."

vinod- "..unless I take the risk I am not going to make money in market. So, I am going with my hunch and feeling about market based on reading of general news about market."

I feel the same way. Not being someone who uses technical analysis, I can only hazard a guess that TA has not worked well recently, as almost every post on the subject has lacked the 'confidence' I saw last year. Most skills are learned slowly and deliberately, then applied to increasingly complicated (but still controlled) situations, and finally to real life. At some point, you no longer think (or at least, no longer need to think) about each step, and your reactions just 'happen' in fluid motions/thoughts-> it's then fair to say you've mastered a skill. From the perspective of an uninformed observer, it then appears you often act on a 'hunch,' but that wouldn't (necessarily) be the case. A surgeon with 30 years' experience making a diagnosis on a 'hunch' is more likely to be right than a first-year resident, more or less regardless of IQ. A (successful) trader with 30 years' experience trading on a hunch is likewise making a good bet. A successful gambler with 30 years' experience will also generally make good bets.

The market we're in right now just requires a lot of experience to trade. I don't have it, so I'm not doing well. Maybe that's all it is, trying to ski the black diamond trail I somehow ended up on without the necessary skills. So what do you do when you find yourself in over your head? You try to break it down into manageable stretches, slow down, and eventually make your way off the slope in one piece. Giving up and waiting for the rescue team is an option, but not one I like..and one which can leave you behind for good. I like David's approach, which means getting off one's ---, taking a few chances (albeit with a clear head), and building confidence/learning resourcefulness under duress.

Re: re china

Well Dr. Cosa,
If we believe in cycles, Ecclesiastes, Yin/Yang, it was not all that long ago that China was the largest economy in the world. As a rule, they focus extensively on education. I believe their ethnic grouping makes up the largest sub-population in the technical disciplines. That is, those disciplines that actually produce something. It is true they hold a large amount of US debt and therefore, some of their wealth is ephemeral at best. However, they do appear to be waxing while the US is waning. Perhaps there won't be a radical shift, but there seems to be no doubt the progression is towards a changing of the guard.

Re: Difficult Juncture

"Maybe that's all it is, trying to ski the black diamond trail I somehow ended up on without the necessary skills."

First I pay for my lift ticket in advance then head for that black diamond trail first thing after putting on my skis; just to look down and see what all the fuss is about. Yea, I'm a risk taker and I've got a few scars but never any broken bones... You have to choose the slope that best suits your needs, starting first with careful consideration of your responsibilities and moving on down the line in order to ascertain your particular level of risk and means of achieving your goals.

S&P Trend Line

If we were to draw a 30yr trend line on the S&P, it looks like it would intersect the 750 level, which is where we were back in Oct.

Re: re china

nemo - "Perhaps there won't be a radical shift, but there seems to be no doubt the progression is towards a changing of the guard."

Bingo, that must be the goal. It sure explains all the secrecy and underhandedness we're witnessing and why 10% of the people control 90% of the wealth.

Re: CP, Thanks

greg - BAC - I was just thinking out loud, but I'm glad you're happy about your decision. I didn't sell by the way but probably should have... the position was initial, so if it bottoms and BAC doesn't cut their divy I might add to it...

Or, better yet I should've taken profits a few sessions ago. We never bat 1000 on this field!

deferred compensation--deferred realization?

So how just how do Madoff and predator cronies escape some level of justice vigilante or otherwise? Bernie isn't leaving his 6 million dollar penthouse according to NPR. He's still handing out emeralds and Rolexes. They say he has no friends left (!) As I enter the data from my teachers and nurses IRA's and pensions into their loan applications I wonder if their money is actually there still.....

Technicals

I retired at 55yo 3 years ago and have spent a lot of time studying the technicals and have not felt comfortable with it until lately. I am a very simple guy, no puts/calls...just wanting a way to get in and get out, make some money with minimum exposure.

I have settled on a simple, but so far effective strategy using MACDh and RSI, adjusting values to fit my comfort level. I have had about 95% positive trade results so far and avoided many false trade traps.

My latest was DXD (500 shares) bought last Monday at $50.74 and sold today at $56.37...after commission made about $2,800 or 11%. This trade is typical and I track 23 various ETF's. Did similar with XLE last week of December.

I am no expert on technicals, but this little bit of it works for me.

MK

Re: Technicals

nice picture:)

Re: Technicals

Mrking, nice trade. I was wondering how you were able to find it?
stockcharts doesn't provide hourly scans or do you some other type of program?

Trade 'Em or Fade 'Em?

http://tinyurl.com/8z6kg4

A look at TD Range Projections (tm)

Trade 'Em or Fade 'Em?

http://tinyurl.com/8z6kg4

A look at TD Range Projections (tm)

GG and UCO

put order to buy UCO at 11.00 and GG at 23

Re: Technicals

Congrats on your system. I also started swing trades in ETFs several weeks ago after realizing that buy and hold is dead now. I was lucky to have mostly wining trades too, but sometimes after willing to seat on underwater positions when my entries were early (quite typical of my trades). Another difficulty is an exit strategy as I tend to leave a lot of money on the table exiting early. Any advice on exit strategy?

Volatility Points to S&P 500 Gains With Widest Gap Since 1987

Can someone tell me if this sounds plausible (too much jargon form me)?

"Jan. 13 (Bloomberg) -- Options traders are betting stock swings in the Standard & Poor’s 500 Index will decrease at the fastest rate since the aftermath of the market crash in 1987, a sign that equities may keep rallying.

The difference between the benchmark index’s historic volatility and a gauge of so-called implied volatility based on expected swings rose to the highest in 21 years, according to data compiled by Credit Suisse Group AG and Bloomberg. The gap widened as investors paid less to insure against price declines, sending the Chicago Board Options Exchange’s Three-Month Volatility Index lower.

Historical volatility must fall 25 percent to bring the measures into accord. The last time the difference was this wide, stocks climbed for two quarters, according to data compiled by Bloomberg. Declining volatility is usually bullish for equities because it shows growing investor confidence."

from: http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive...

Re: Volatility Points to S&P 500 Gains With Widest Gap Since ...

Here's what John Hussman has to say about durations:

http://tinyurl.com/8px92s

Re: Technicals

mrking - keep posting, sounds like you're system is working and that's hard to beat!!!

BAC

"Bank of America is scheduled to announce its earnings — or losses — hours before President-elect Barrack Obama takes office Jan. 20.

J.P. Morgan Chase (NYSE: JPM) is scheduled to release earnings the following day before the market opens. Citigroup (NYSE: C) reportedly expecting an operating loss of at least $10 billion, will announce earnings on Jan. 22.

Wells Fargo (NYSE: WFC) reports on Jan. 28."

http://stlouis.bizjournals.com/stlouis/stories/200...

Trade Gap

"Down considerably"

BAC - Funny Money?

"Obama to Limit Dividends From Banks Getting ‘Exceptional’ Aid
“Those receiving exceptional assistance will be subject to tough but sensible conditions that limit executive compensation until taxpayer money is paid back, ban dividend payments beyond de minimis amounts, and put limits on stock buybacks and the acquisition of already financially strong companies,” he wrote.

Obama wants more of the money funneled to community banks and small businesses, as well as steps to loosen credit for individuals and help for homeowners facing foreclosure, said Summers, picked by Obama to head the White House National Economic Council. He also wants greater oversight of the aid program and a public accounting of how the money is spent. "

Full Story:

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601070&si...

Aside: Will the girls' new pet be a Labradoodle or a Portugese water dog?

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