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Cara's Commentary & Community Chat, Thursday, Oct. 1, 2009

[7:54am ET] US foreign policy for Iran, Iraq and Afghanistan is front and center in the media today for some reason. I am sure the politics of money is very much involved, somehow, but I am not being distracted from my normal business of watching prices.

Yesterday’s market prices seemed to be out of whack as from 10:00am through 12:30pm ET the US Dollar came under pressure and precious metals and oil prices lifted sharply. But, strangely, only the Canadian Dollar was reacting, and equity prices of the industry groups related to oil and precious metals were unremarkable.

Something is going on here, but I cannot quite put my finger on it. I believe, though, we’ll all find out in time what is driving the body politic. We usually do.

Have a good day.


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Cara 100 Ratings Changes

Good morning. Lots of analyst activity this morning but not much affecting the Cara 100 :

CHRW - Deutsche Securities Initiates Coverage with a Hold. PT = $62

Money Supply

From http://www.federalreserve.gov/releases/h6/current/

Percent change at seasonally adjusted annual rates M1 M2
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3 Months from May 2009 TO Aug. 2009 13.2 -2.3
6 Months from Feb. 2009 TO Aug. 2009 11.6 0.8
12 Months from Aug. 2008 TO Aug. 2009 18.5 7.8

I do not see how this can be good for the stock market.
Comments?

Tracking All Currency ETFs

Speaking of the USD and the wild currencies markets, I have set up a site that tracks all currency ETFs on the U.S. market, with daily and YTD performance of each at http://nexalogic.com/currency.html

BZF, Brazilian Real is still the winner +30% YTD.
DRR and EUO, Leveraged short Euro are the biggest losers.

Jobless claims rebound in latest week

First-time claims for state unemployment benefits rose for the first time in four weeks, the Labor Department reported Thursday. The number of initial claims in the week ending Sept. 26 rose 17,000 to 551,000. It's the highest level since before the Labor Day holiday. The consensus forecast of Wall Street economists was for claims to fall inch up to 531,000. Claims in the previous week were revised to a decrease of 16000 to 534,000 compared with the initial estimate of a decrease of 21,000 to 530,000. The four-week average of initial claims fell 6,250 to 548,000. This is the lowest level since Jan. 24. Meanwhile, the number of Americans receiving state jobless benefits fell 70,000 to 6.09 million in the week ending Sept. 19. This is the lowest level since the week ended April 4. The four-week moving average of continuing claims fell 39,250 to 6.15 million, the lowest level since April 18

http://bit.ly/AEFf0

We setting up for a disasterous black swan?

Bill said: "At this point, we are confused whether the market wants to go up or down. We are seeing a lot more global politics than usual, and this is worrisome."

I'm guessing Bill that if you're not familiar with what's happening then this *could* be bad news for the markets. I'm not trying to make the reality, but simply be psychologically prepared for the worst.

Vad - a question pertaining to ECN's

ECN's are remarked upon in your books and some software I'm looking at. Do you have an article pertaining to this subject please? TIA

Re: Jobless claims rebound in latest week

On Monday, the catch phrase on CNBC was "jobless recovery". I expect to hear more of this nonsense today.

Regards,
BH

Re: Jobless claims rebound in latest week

Which headline will win?

"U.S. Initial Jobless Claims Increased 17,000 to 551,000 "
vs
"U.S. Consumer Spending Jumps by the Most Since 2001"

We all know the headlines are written to fit the market action, but it will be interesting which of these two will be pitched harder today.

Re: Vad - a question pertaining to ECN's

Les... there is nothing of utter importance to it. View them as mini-exchanges within the exchange, Since their books are being combined so market comprises them all, as long as your routing hits them all searching for the best price, what else do you care :)

If one is into microscalping for pennies (which I am not), there are some details one needs to know... for any really meaningful way to trade, first paragraph is all you need.

NDX

Part of my post from another site. Thought some here might find it interesting at least.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~
....."What is more concerning, is the progress of the Rising Bearish Wedge pattern in the NASDAQ 100. The bottom boundary stopped the decline Wednesday, so now this pattern has five touch points on the upper boundary and four touch points on the bottom boundary. That is an impressive number of trend turns off these converging trend lines, and adds power to the pattern, more reliability. What is left for this pattern to complete is one more sharp rally leg, perhaps to the 1,800 level +/-. Then, a catastrophic decline should start, wave 3 down in the NDX, and wave (C ) down in the blue chip indices. The downside target of this pattern is its starting point, which in this case is 1,050, about 40 percent below Wednesday's close. Prices could fall even lower, below the starting point of this pattern. What is happening here is that buying is being met with stronger and stronger selling as prices edge higher. Once prices fall below the bottom boundary, a trend reversal is suggested. We are about to start the month of October, which has often seen major tops and the start of major plunges. Maybe again." [Dr McHugh] .....

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Another experienced trader's commentary on present trend line

Thoughts that are similar to Bills:

http://www.alphatrends.net/2009/10/sp-500-morning-...

Re: NDX

Looking similar to the rising bearish wedge in the Europe ETF IEV Bev. China FXI has a little more wiggle room. Let's see if it successfully bounces of present support.

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Apex Near Completion on the XLK, XLP, and XLY

Charts from JL:

http://ibankcoin.com/chart_addict/2009/10/01/apex-...

He's looking for resolution on those three ETF's in the near future.

Re: Jobless claims rebound in latest week

Don't hold your breath hunter.
Just like everything that is fed/government/gs related, the next report will have this weeks numbers revised and smoothed out for the rear view mirror lookers.

PSSSST!.......It pays to be a insider crook in these unregulated ponzi markets!

Chart Pattern Trader

NYGrad,
Where do you find the daily charts for this blog that you displayed yesterday? Do you have a link?

SILVER

As Bill said, this morning, Silver had a good day yesterday, but will it follow through? Here's a weekly chart (I hope I can get it uploaded)for Silver that shows an uptrending channel with higher hi's and lo's and a bounce off support. RSI has dropped out of distribution and might bounce back upward but the week is not over yet.

I have some SLV which I will continue to hold, but then I am no longer a day trader - too old and slow.

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Re: Chart Pattern Trader

Greg,

http://tinyurl.com/2os8rk

if you ever lose the link, just go to my blog and its there on the right under "My Favorites". http://stopinvesting.blogspot.com

TD Bank Digital lock down - No money in, no money out!

Their servers are all messed up. so for the past 48 hours my checking account balance amount has not moved up or down. Whether i deposit money or take money out, the balance is stuck from 2 days ago. Big issue for MANY customers who are trying to pay bills.

I was just told by the teller that this is a nationwide issue. That is a lot of money not accounted for. Talk about fiat money!

Important US econ data coming out at 10am ET

• ISM Manufacturing (Sep)

• Construction Spending (Aug)

• Pending Home Sales (Aug)

Re: TD Bank Digital lock down - No money in, no money out!

Hola NYU TD works fine online. from Mazatlan MX 1 min ago

Re: TD Bank Digital lock down - No money in, no money out!

Maybe in MX. But this is a nationwide issue as of the past 48 hours.

FDIC

http://tinyurl.com/yawnxjb

The financial press seems to be beating a dead horse over FDIC's lack of liquidity. With a $500Billion line of credit at Treasury all this false worry about the FDIC's solvency is ludicrous. It makes no difference if the FDIC takes money from Treasury or from insured banks in the form of prepaid premiums since bank funds can be replaced with TARP funds. The FDIC is using US government money under either alternative.

In my view it has a different significant. Its October. Its an early news item among several future news items that will be used to take the market down sufficiently so that a large number of Bill's good quality stocks will enter the accumulation zone by the middle of this month.

SSG/FXP off the table

About a 3% return on capital invested.

Re: TD Bank Digital lock down - No money in, no money out!

Where is it coming from? I see about 8 transactions in diff accounts of mine as of yesterday

Re: TD Bank Digital lock down - No money in, no money out!

Fox news picked this story up.
http://tinyurl.com/yba2jps

Re: TD Bank Digital lock down - No money in, no money out!

Hi Vadym,

I was told only in U.S nationwide. :P

You were spared I guess. Unless you have found a way to take advantage and "borrow" from everyone's accts the past 48 hours.

ISM Manufacturing Index Well Below Expectations in September.

I guess that is the driving force and trumping everything else.

look out below

FYI

One of the indicators I been keeping a close watch on.

http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=LQD&p=D&yr=0&mn=8...

A thank you to all the sheeple that voted for the great Obama

Obama......quote, I will put 1 million, I mean 2 million, possibly 5 million, or 10 million , or 15 million people back to work, unquote.
Just vote for me, not my opponent, I'm the only one that can create jobs!

I'm thinking 50 million jobs will be needed before the rich and connected get done pillaging the working peoples pockets.

Crime is going up, prisons are full to just over capacity, and no jobs are being created other then more and more government jobs.

Sooner or later, the repercussions of spending and spending and spending to keep these crooked bankers afloat is going to implode. Who knows where that will leave the masses, but I haven't seen any change what so ever since all the sheeple voted for Obama and his Chicago thugs.

Oh, yes, Bernanke was calming the unemployed on national tv a month ago saying the recovery is under way, we have seen the bottom.
Independent thinking would be my best advise.

Re: A thank you to all the sheeple that voted for the great ...

i don't even know how to respond to this post...

Re: ISM Manufacturing Index Well Below Expectations in ...

A 52.6 vs. 53.5 isn't exactly well below. Plus, it still indicates expansion. I would not be shorting on this information.

Still on sidelines and enjoying vaca!

a new 10 year Bull Market

Did this guy ever look at any stock history charts or data?

http://finance.yahoo.com/tech-ticker/article/34688...

there is a case to be made for 5 year cycles maybe (3.7 bull & 1.7 bear) in secular bull markets.........but if we started a secular bear market in 2000 it will last last 10-20years & have a zero rate of return (factor in inflation & it is ugly)

the facts are available to anyone who cares to look:

http://www.crestmontresearch.com/pdfs/Stock%20Secu...

Cara 100 Update

BA - Downgraded to Hold @ McAdams Wright Ragen

KO - PT Raised from $54 to $65 @ Barclays. Overweight

too-big to fail? Just break them up and kill off the parts!

So Bernanke is touting his too-big to fail talk again. My question is, if it's too-big to fail, why not just break the banks up and let the parts that's failing to fail? I'm sure this is obvious. Why haven't I seen Bernanke asked about this? Perhaps I'm overlooking something about this?

Re: A thank you to all the sheeple that voted for the great ...

I apologize. Edited my response This thread is not worth continuing

Re: Chart Pattern Trader

Thanks for the link. I am interested in the intermediate term time frame vs day trading. Although I have been watching his daily video review for the last several days it is nice to review the charts separately. You might want to read the daily posts of "swinger" at http://obamagirl7.blogspot.com. This guy was originally from xtrends but was banned for his bullish view on the market at a time when Atilla was shorting into the SPX move up. Swinger is amazing very similar to an old poster here named "tradesman" with /ES high and low targets, what he calls "spotter signals" for the long/intermediate/short term trader. He called the recent top on 1076 and the recent low of 1036 several days in advance of those moves. He uses a black box program that mimics the program trading of institutional investors. He is old and very wise imo. It is funny though that he only posts on this obscure blog followed by maybe 10 posters.

SPX 1040

Wasn't that one of Bill's targets? Heading there fast.

Buy the dip mentality has flipped

Major change.

Re: A thank you to all the sheeple that voted for the great ...

Uh, bigwad, are we still stuck in the us vs. them, Dem vs. Repub debate here? It seems clear to me we had two choices: the banker's candidate, and the other banker's candidate. The dirty trick here was, Obama pretended to NOT be a banker's candidate. This has happened before. For instance, Johnson was the Peace Candidate back in 1964 when he was running against Goldwater. 3 months after he was elected he started Operation Rolling Thunder.

Suggesting the blame lies with "the sheeple" who tried to vote in change is not accurate. Clearly people wanted change. They ordered change. Unfortunately, it just wasn't on the menu. Just like peace wasn't on the menu in 1964.

Re: A thank you to all the sheeple that voted for the great ...

Agreed. I am nearly always voting against the candidate I see as worse.

What we need is a major change to be able to do away with "professional" politicians. With a few exceptions, an extended period in an elected office turns those with good intentions into those who simply want to keep their cushy living style and status.

A truly useful rule might be, for example, all legislation must apply to the congress to the same degree as to the average citizen.

Case in point: Any government health care program would first be tested on congress for a length of time equal to two terms of office. Eventually we would have a good plan for all.

Re: SPX 1040

Close enough. I believe it was actually a 1038 close.

Re: A thank you to all the sheeple that voted for the great ...

just my opinion, but i think you miss the point. obama, like him or not, is not the controlling interest in this situation, he is more of a figurehead. the bottom line, as it has been since the dawn of the nation, is monetary imperialism vs sound money. the puppet at the top only matters insofar as they pursue policies that impact this fundamental division. while it in no way absolves him, there is little evidence to expect that any other candidate similarly promoted would have produced significantly better results. until a sufficient number of the populace is able to break from the delusional indoctrination that promotes a worldview akin to shouting over whether the Broncos are superior to the Raiders, it will be exceedingly difficult to break the hold that the forces of evil have over the country.

the current crisis, demonstrated to have been engineered over the preceding decades by the numerous posts here and other sources, presents the opportunity for those forces to solidify their hold by using the people's weakness over that intervening period against them. in other words, due to the fact that, in the aggregate, Americans have allowed themselves to be stretched to a breaking point financially, the threat of financial ruin and destitution produces a fear all the more real. to the extent that we can, within the constraints of each of our situations, we may position ourselves, NOT TO PROFIT from our own destruction, but to resist it with everything we have, since not doing so results in us having nothing anyway.

[only intended to be directed at bigwad1 at the very beginning]

Re: SPX 1040

From what I can tell, it's all about dollar strength today.

So something that occurs to me: Eyeing the last few corrections we've had on this northbound SPX train, I see they've all come at around RSI 30. For me the real test will be, what happens this time at RSI 30? We might get another down day, and then we will see what transpires.

Re: Buy the dip mentality has flipped

I agree, although again, I would be cautious going short because of the ISM report which still suggests expansion. Although if I weren't on vacation the ADHD in me probably would have made me go short MTW or some other high beta company....

Re: Buy the dip mentality has flipped

TOF,

Cashed out of MCGC today (3.43->4.27) - of course now it will trade sideways and then go to $9... Thanks again for the trading idea. I'm scouring the charts for a play to contribute (long or short), but don't seem to have the knack that many others here do. Mostly in cash, with positions in PLM and USA.V. Waiting for a low(er) risk opportunity... Hope you are enjoying your time off.

Regards,
KC

Re: A thank you to all the sheeple that voted for the great ...

"Crime is going up, prisons are full to just over capacity, and no jobs are being created other then more and more government jobs."

Crime is going up, you say? And the president caused it, in nine months. What is the authority for that conclusion? While we might be able to lay some blame to this president for the current state of our economy, can we say that he is also responsible for a general increase in crime? If crime has in fact increased. I think this could be a good lesson for posters. Make your point, but don't add to it with unsupportable statements and conclusions.

EPA Silences Climate Skeptic

http://online.wsj.com/article_email/SB124657655235...

Around this time, Mr. Carlin and a colleague presented a 98-page analysis arguing the agency should take another look, as the science behind man-made global warming is inconclusive at best. The analysis noted that global temperatures were on a downward trend. It pointed out problems with climate models. It highlighted new research that contradicts apocalyptic scenarios. "We believe our concerns and reservations are sufficiently important to warrant a serious review of the science by EPA," the report read.

The response to Mr. Carlin was an email from his boss, Al McGartland, forbidding him from "any direct communication" with anyone outside of his office with regard to his analysis. When Mr. Carlin tried again to disseminate his analysis, Mr. McGartland decreed: "The administrator and the administration have decided to move forward on endangerment, and your comments do not help the legal or policy case for this decision. . . . I can only see one impact of your comments given where we are in the process, and that would be a very negative impact on our office."

is it really that difficult to compare the temperature readings from the Moon with those from Earth, thereby differentiating solar temperature fluctuations from man-made temperature change? apparently...

nothing to see here

Re: A thank you to all the sheeple that voted for the great ...

Let's get back to the market, please. Things are happening. Lots to discuss.

ETFC

bought some at $1.67

Re: Buy the dip mentality has flipped

Good job KC - I sold out too early on MCGC as a result of going on vacation...speaking of which, i'm heading out. Take care.

back in BEE @ 2.38

Will hold half of this fairly small position in the hopes that someday better days are coming... (Everything else is positioned for a disaster...)

Something is going on here

...but I cannot quite put my finger on it."

Inside sources are indicating that the federal reserve/ central banking system's days are numbered. While none of us here would find that to be any great insight, what is interesting is that with increasing vigor, these sources are indicating that an actual date and agenda have been put in place to facilitate this transition. As a result, the elites are jockeying for pole position while trying like heck not to spook the "sheeple."

For what it is worth, I've followed this game for over 2 decades... looking under stones and around corners. I have applied the same rigor to these investigations that I apply in my research. Over the years, I have learned a few things, including which sources have been consistently reliable. Those very reliable sources are now putting the word out to those listening...a transition is actively in the works. At first this topic was a trickle that I watched for a couple of months, but now the flow of information from these sources is increasing and the message remains the same; warning for a bumpy and confusing transition (no surprises there) followed by an emotional release as the people of the world realize that life, and business, go on. Assets of value are not going to suddenly become value-less without the Federal Reserve elitists controlling the markets. How is such a coup supposed to look anyway? Apparently, a lot of hard work and effort(both from within the US and internationally, particularly from Japan) has been going on behind the scenes toward ridding the markets of these parasites and much of that work has been focused on dealing with the potential and temporary fallout... ie, removing the parasite without killing the host.

For those beating the "End the Fed" drum, be careful what you wish for... an end may actually be closer than we all might think.

As an aside: this may also be one of the reasons for the relentless swine flu propaganda ploy... For what it is worth, I wouldnt touch that vaccination with a 10 foot pole, nor would I advise any of my family or friends to do so either.... and I am a doctor and a scientist in the human biological sciences. They are using the same propaganda machinery to promote the swine swill as has been used relentlessly to control and direct the fallout of the banking swindle. I will be in the streets protesting or in a detention center should they mandate that I receive it. There is something very fishy around this whole situation. Things just are NOT adding up and I am not comfortable with either the overt or covert implications.

As Bill says:
".....we’ll all find out in time what is driving the body politic. We usually do."

Im crawling back under my rock now... happy trading.

Not so hot, so far... US

Not so hot, so far...

US dollar stronger
breadth poor
consolidation at support preceded a breakdown
Last Friday's low (Gann 3 day) taken out
Lower lows 30 mins
"Taylor Trading" buy day not happening
First day of the month usually far stronger

good trading and great risk management to all

educational use only, never intended as investment advice...

Re: EPA Silences Climate Skeptic

I see, the person's boss at the EPA silenced one of his scientists. Do you happen to recall what occurred over the last 8 years when consensus scientific findings on the effects of carbon pollution were ordered changed by the White House. Consensus findings, not the findings of a single scientist at the agency. And it wasn't the person's boss that silenced him, it was someone outside, someone exerting political pressure- the White House. Do you see a difference between a situation where a person's boss 'silences' him, and where an outside person does it? According to the EPA chief under Nixon (I forget his name at the moment), interference by the Bush White House into science at the EPA was unprecedented. Christy Whitman walked off the job as administrator. Did you write about any of this when it happened, when it worked the other way, when consensus scientific findings were being changed by non scientists?

Bill is right, getting too far from the markets so I am wrong here too, I already posted. Will try to keep it in mind going forward.

PMs

Gold and Silver are holding strong and looks like gold may have made a head fake move by dipping below the $1,000 barrier, perhaps a logical place to trigger stops on mining equities.

I'm fairly impressed with silver in particular as I would expect it to take a large hit on a day like today when the $USD is up and speculative stocks are selling off. Of course, it could still be "last off the dance floor syndrome" but apparently the dance ain't over yet, at least for the moment...

Re: PMs

I'm impressed too. LIHR and GORO are actually showing a tiny "green" shoot right now.

LIHR is now down, probably heard me mention it.

Peter Schiff brings up a good point in this video

http://tinyurl.com/ya5atct

Much like healthcare companies spend millions buying research data, seeking data that will prove their products are better for marketing claims and approvals, why is the outside committee commissioned to find the causes of the financial collapse, not asking for the help of people such as Bill Cara, Peter Schiff, and anyone else who predicted something was wrong with the system with data points to speak of?

Prob because the outcome of those discussions is not the outcome already decided for us all.

I can only hope more leaders like Ron Paul, Peter Schiff, Marcy Kaptur, rise up in the country. We all can affect change in our own small ways. I urge everyone to raise the volume.

Re: Something is going on here

MtnGnTx- Don't crawl under your rock just yet...;)

Thanks for your observations, now as always. Your post raises some questions/observations:
1. What are the primary sources for your information? Is there a URL we can look at? You said it was "inside information" and perhaps because of that confidential so I will understand if you are unable to provide the primary source(s).
2. I think it naive to think that when the Fed is disbanded we will remove the "parasite". No disrespect intended at all...just my opinion. While the 'Fed parasite' may be removed (if it ever is), there will be other more invasive, more destructive, less visible parasites emerge. To follow your analogy, there may be more of a new, more deadly species of parasite appear rather than just a small genetic mutation.
3. Re flu 'pandemic'- My wife, a very accomplished Health Services Research Scientist (MD, SM), agrees whole heartedly with you. She is appalled at what is happening, the rate of speed decisions like this are being made and the "evidence" given for these decisions. Makes me wonder what drug company is paying what lobbyist(s) and politician how much.

Sorry to be so cynical but I'd rather be inquiring well beyond and much deeper than what the 'sheeple's' info is. After all, isn't that part of Bill's message? Delve deeper; think for yourself; try to get a larger view and attempt as far as possible to see the linkages? Thanks Bill. (And correct me if I'm off base here.)
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sold short more FCX

I have increased my FCX short by the dollar amount equivalent to 3% of my portfolio at $66.24. The jump in the copper price on Monday turned out to be yet another lower high, and SPY has just made a 3rd lower low. The chances are heavily stacked against FCX in such an environment.

We are near the lower descending trend lines

If prices hold we may see another gasp to retest the upper trend line. But my gut says more selling before weekend.

I am still holding my QID position from $22.92. I am waiting for each retest higher to add onto my position.

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How about'em analysts?

I just must post this:

Thursday, October 01, 2009 12:46:20 PM
Chelsea Therapeutics CHTP

Ladenburg Thalmann Raised CHTP to Buy from Neutral
- Note: Ladenburg Thalmann Cut CHTP to Neutral from Buy on 9/25.

No comment. None needed.

Volume is light. This isnt panic/capitulation yet

That was one of the main reasons i am guessing a retest of the upper trend lines.

Cara 100 Update (Final)

ATVI - cut from Conviction Buy List at Goldman. Valuation call, as other related stock have better upside potential. Buy rating and $16 price target.

BBBY - numbers boosted at FBR. Shares of BBBY now seen reaching $39.50. Estimates also increased, to reflect higher expected comp sales. Market Perform rating.

BMY - target boosted at Goldman. Shares of BMY now seen reaching $24. MJN continues to rise in value, which has not been reflected in Bristol shares. Neutral rating.

DIS - target boosted at Morgan Stanley to $35. Company is positioned well to develop 15%-20% earnings growth into a cyclical recovery. Overweight rating.

SBUX - estimates, target boosted at Goldman. SBUX estimates were raised through 2011. Via instant coffee should add to earnings. Neutral rating and new $23 price target.

WAG - price target lifted at Merrill/BofA to $42 from $38 as better economic profits are ahead. Reiterate Buy rating. 2010 and 2011 EPS estimates set at $2.30 and $2.65, respectively.

WHR - target boosted at Citigroup to $70. Company will benefit from a more stable macro environment. Hold rating.

Inflation ?... deflation ?.. I believe Stagflation will play out

over the next year or two... That is when I will be mostly in PM's....

Re: Something is going on here

MtnGntx

I agree - there is something significant unfolding behind the scenes. It has hardly made national headlines, but the Bloomberg vs Federal Reserve case is incredibly significant as it directly challenge the Federal Reserve's sacred argument that their ability to operate udner a veil of secrecy is necessary.
The argument no longer holds water as the Federal Reserve allowed the system to reach the brink of total disaster - they were allowed to operate in secrecy and failed miserably! The people are asking, why should we continue to support such an arrangement?

Its happening, slowly but surely, that the sovereignty of the Federal Reserve system under fire - not just by academics and finance professionals, but Joe Sixpack and Hockey Mom. People are waking up and realizing how in the dark they have been about how the money works - and they don't seem to like the answers they are being spoonfed.

Re: Something is going on here

MtnGntx,

I think I have it now. The selling today and the unease of yesterday has nothing to do with the economic data. I think it's all about CIT.

CIT GROUP INC (DEL)(NYSE: CIT)
Real-Time: 1.01 -0.20 (-16.53%) 1:13pm ET

Which lender is prepared to lend to America's small and mid-sized business corps? How big can unemployment get if credit is not available? How much will Congress, Treasury and the Fed have to dip into a very weak USD to paper over this one?

Big problems ahead, I think. I smelled something yesterday.

Re: Volume is light. This isnt panic/capitulation yet

NYUGrad,

Watch the volume between now and the close.

Watch the $USD.

Traders wait for moments like this. It could get ugly.

Tip for getting rid of stuff or getting stuff for free!

In hard times people are looking for ways to stretch their dollar. When i moved two yrs ago i had to find a way to donate furniture and other "stuff" but the local salvation army couldn't pick up some of the larger items. So i found http://www.freecycle.org.

In my local area they are creating a free-market (flea-market) where people with stuff they want to get rid off park their trucks, and people who need stuff go browse. You want it? you take it.

My older ikea leather sofa ended up with a freshman in college after 9 yrs of use, and he can now save that money for books and food.

its a good cause and way to help those in need. and a great way for people who have tight wallets to also find treasures.

Not to beat a dead horse, but job creation estimates to

produce an ( the ) average 3 - 4 % unemployment rate during the next 3 years is 24 million ( new jobs )... ouch.

Re: Something is going on here

And how does someone like jim cramer, who went on national tv and told everyone to buy buy bye the day before the 40% haircut, not go to jail?

Re: Something is going on here

NYUGrad,

Jail? They'll send him back to clown school.

Re: Something is going on here

To teach?

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I may be wrong but I thought we were here for stock market and trading, not for politics or polemics.

Re: Something is going on here

NYU... I gave up arguing that years ago... That is why I subscribe to his site, just to keep up with what direction he is leaning... always keep your opponents in sight....

Re: A thank you to all the sheeple that voted for the great ...

This all gets back to my "Cow" theory of politics. The pasture is filled with a variety of vegetation, ranging from extreme left wing to extreme right wing vegetation. The cow (the political machine) comes along and eats the vegetation. By the time it comes out the other end, it has all been processed to look about the same.

In every country there is a political system that processes the candidate producing only those candidates that fit the requirements of the system. No surprise.

TBT capitulation day?

Well today certainly seems to be a high volume, big move day for TBT. Is this capitulation? We're approaching a big resistance zone for TLT at 100. This takes us back to Feb/March of this year with bond prices.

I wrote some more puts - deep in the money, far out in the calendar.

Re: A thank you to all the sheeple that voted for the great ...

I'm sure they're ready to making POL101 courses out of that kernel of truth Nemo :)

Damn Bill, I thought this game of chicken with CIT was going to be won with another bailout. The S&P Titanic is unsinkable, isn't it?

No Cash for Clunkers means -45% sales for GM

The Cash for Clunkers program really worked didn't it? Now what happens to sales for the rest of the year. Sept sales for GM down -45%. What's next for Oct-Dec?

Re: No Cash for Clunkers means -45% sales for GM

I'd also be curious how many of those clash for clunker purchases are repo'd in a few months. majority of these customers went from zero per month to $500 per month payments.

Re: Something is going on here

"I think I have it now. The selling today and the unease of yesterday has nothing to do with the economic data. I think it's all about CIT."

Bill, looks like your view just got confirmed... this headline sent financials down just now:

1:53:06 PM
CIT Reportedly planning to file DIP loan of $5-7B if needs to file for pre bankruptcy - unconfirmed report
- notes has not yet finalized any debtor in possession loan; but will do so if filing for bankruptcy

S&P 500

Here's another view on the S&P 500, FWIW.

http://chart.ly/26ph5q

DOLLAR

Can the Dollar move higher? I don't know, but I am watching UUP for a possible upmove confirmation indicator for the Dollar and a contrary indicator for PM.

Attached chart show a lot of resistance but if the Dollar is meant to go up, then watch for a gap up and over resistance at open tomorrow. Just my way of looking at things - do your own analysis.

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Re: Something is going on here

ALOHA!!

BillySundance posted - "Its happening, slowly but surely, that the sovereignty of the Federal Reserve system under fire - not just by academics and finance professionals, but Joe Sixpack and Hockey Mom."

Well when RON PAUL'S book END THE FED is at #2 on Amazon and he is getting a leg up from the likes of Jon Stewart and Bill Mayer it is a sign these is some grassroots movement against the US FED being allowed to conduct "business-as-usual" secret monetary policy. By the way, the FOMC meeting minutes where the dialogue between members is recorded like a movie script is allowed for public viewing six years later. You can now go to the US FED website and read the exact goings on at FOMC meetings held in 2003. So they are not exactly totally secret! HA!!

I find it astounding that people actually fear that America would become some Godless, medieval serfdom living in pitch black death throes without the US FED running our money system. From day one in America, the Home of The Free and the Brave, we were never intended to have a central bank. Being dependent on a central bank is an idea that foreign bankers brought to our shores. Its the bankers who want central banks and for good reason. DUH!!! The US CONGRESS broke up the OIL MONOPOLY. How is a MONEY MONOPOLY any different? Isn't a MONOPOLY a MONOPOLY? Both the OIL MONOPOLY and the current MONEY MONOPOLY were both "private" entities controlled by very wealthy families. Why should public funds continue supporting yet another private MONOPOLY? Especially one that has failed so miserably to preserve the purchasing power and the integrity of our money system and markets. Look where we are. Originally back in 1913 the US FED promised they would prevent this. America did not dive into chaos and death spirals after the OIL MONOPOLY was broken ...

Hummmmm ...

TD Bank is slowly coming back

Thanks for returning my money Vadym.

Pretty scary world where a technology glitch can prevent banking nationwide and it actually got tested this week.

Re: No Cash for Clunkers means -45% sales for GM

Sep 08 to Sep 09 is -45%, Aug 09 to Sep 09 is "only" -36.5%

Re: S&P 500

Thanks Todd, I was noting that SPY 60 min was reluctant to follow through below the 200 dma. I'm guessing that the line has been drawn by the bulls, but as Bill said - "watch this space". A recovery above the 200dma on the 60 min should put the daily back above the long term trend. It's a nail biter.

Sorry Kaimu, I checked your claims and could only find Sarah Palin and her "Going Rogue" in the top spot. Perhaps that is, in some sort of sense, a "hockey mum's" notion of speaking out...

edit: Attention is drawn to the slightly positive MACDh divergence and oversold Stochastics indication in the 60 min chart. A rebound *could* be in the making.

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Re: EPA

fjd10595,

what you are referring to was not my reason for posting as (bush = bad) means exactly nothing except that (bush = bad). in retrospect, it would have been better to not use the WSJ headline as the subject of the post. my thoughts are at the bottom of my post in the usual, lowercase text.

the bottom line being: there is nothing more GREEN than CARBON. any doubt can quickly be resolved by a simple discussion with a 5th grade science teacher:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Photosynthesis

LBJ DID IT

ALOHA !!

Davidfairtex-Wow ... you're mention of "Rolling Thunder" and LBJ in 1964 was prophetic for me as I plan to use a satellite map of Cambodia and Laos to show how much land mass was bombed during the Vietnam War. For a long time Nixon was blamed for the "Secret War" but it was actually LBJ who did it. Check this out ...

From my weekly "REVENUE BREAKDOWN" article:
"All told, the US dropped 2,756,941 tons of bombs on Cambodia (slightly smaller than Oklahoma). This is the same amount dropped by the US and Great Britain in the European theatre during all of World War II. Bombing of that magnitude changes a country's history."

We literally bombed SouthEast Asia into the hands of the Communists ... How has there been any CHANGE in US Foreign Policy since then? What was "SHOCK AND AWE" other than more mass bombing on behalf of Democracy?

Many of you here may be saying ... "So? Whats that got to do with anything today?" Or perhaps you may ask, "How does that tie into me making a profit day trading in 2009?"

THINK ABOUT IT ...

Re: No Cash for Clunkers means -45% sales for GM

MTLQQ = proof of concept

Re: No Cash for Clunkers means -45% sales for GM

Just a personal anecdote to add.

For at least 3-4 months prior to the start of the Clunker program, I was thinking of trading in my old 1989 (still running good) Ford pickup truck for a new truck (brand undecided)so I was routinely checking out prices on various web sites. Suddenly (relatively), before the Clunker program started, even though vehicle sales had been reportedly horrible, truck prices that I was researching JUMPED up about $4000 bucks!

Now, subsequent to the Clunker program, when I check the same web sites for current prices, I often see something like "MSRP is $50,000 but our price to you is only $46,000.

Hmmmmm. Surely, those wiley car dealers didn't raise their prices by the amount of the Clunker program in order to collect that stimulus amount instead of the customer?

If they did, then perhaps the Clunker stimulus was always meant to be just a gift to the car dealers?

Re: S&P 500

Les,

Everyone sees the uptrend line drawn from the March lows being breached. But some while back Vad mentioned to someone else (can't recall who) about how you can draw multiple lines on the $SPX chart and show how the uptrend line has been broken several times. Yet the market has consolidated and heads even higher.

The key levels for me, as I mentioned in that chart I posted, are 975 and then down at the 200 DMA (900). If those levels get taken out (especially the 200 DMA) then a person would have to believe that the uptrend was over.

Rising markets often shake out the weak holders along the way.

took some SRS off the table

Seeing that the upwards momentum in SRS seems to be waning for today (and keeping in mind that a downtrend is generally a zig-zag, with a minor rebound being likely after today's sell-off), I decided to take some SRS off the table at $10.19, which I had purchased on Monday and Tuesday at the average cost of $9.37. The trade size was small as usual, resulting only in a 0.12% gain to my portfolio. It is better to learn how to trade with small position sizes, as it allowed me to be "wrong" in my expectation of the market going down since May and still be alive today. :)

Hedge Funds Try to Ward Off New Regulations

http://tinyurl.com/yave7kd

“As we (Hedge funds) have made clear, we were not the contributors to these financial problems and, where hedge funds have met their demise, nobody got any taxpayer money to help bail them out,” Richard H. Baker, the association’s chief executive, told The Times.

GS for real downgrading employment or a bear trap?

Ahead of September's Non-Farm Payrolls report, Goldman Sachs (GS) is ominously lowing their numbers.

Via ZeroHedge:

Downgrading Our Sept Payroll Forecast

BOTTOM LINE: We are changing our forecast for the September change in nonfarm payrolls to -
250,000 from -200,000. We continue to think that the unemployment rate will be reported at 9.8%.

http://www.businessinsider.com/goldman-downgrades-...

Re: FYI

Bev, why do you prefer LQD over HYG? The latter has a much better correlation with SPY. I am just wondering...

Flu Confusion

This is off topic but I'm sure a concern for most Carraistas

Canada has terminated the regular annual flu vaccine program as a study revealed those taking the vaccine
were 2 times more likely to then contract the H1N1 flu. Now only those who are over 65 may get the regular annual flu vaccine shot.

They are also saying secondary bacterial infections developing in conjunction with H1N1 may be linked to those who die. They are recommending a pneumonia vaccine shot to those most vulnerable.

From the Victoria Sun

VICTORIA — British Columbia is suspending its annual seasonal flu shot program amidst emerging concerns the vaccination could make people more susceptible to catching H1N1.

The suspension — which limits the seasonal flu vaccination mostly to the elderly — puts B.C. in line with many other Canadian provinces, but means most people will not have access to any type of influenza vaccination until at least mid-November.

The decision was announced Monday morning by provincial health officer Dr. Perry Kendall, who characterized this year’s flu season as an “emerging and complex scenario.”

“Obviously this is a complex decision,” Kendall said, adding it was “not one that is being taken lightly.”

Kendall said the decision rested in part on a new Canadian study — which has not yet been peer reviewed or published —that found those who receive the seasonal flu vaccine become two times more likely to get H1N1.

Re: Buy the dip mentality has flipped

"I agree, although again, I would be cautious going short because of the ISM report which still suggests expansion."

teamonfuego, David Rosenberg likes to point out that S&P topped out in January 2002 right when the ISM index broke from below 50 to above 50 and registered a good reading of around 56, I think. The ISM also began contracting after that reading and dipped below 50 again in the later parts of 2002, since unemployment kept going up and the initial government stimulus in 2001 has waned. We are facing something VERY similar now.

Re: A thank you to all the sheeple that voted for the great ...

There is definitely more crime in my neighborhood, not directly Obama's fault, but indirectly due to continued job losses.

Bailouts have continued under his watch, so have bonuses. People are more inclined to ignore laws when they see the high end doing so, IMO.

I know my feelings about honesty relating to income taxes are cooled by the behavior of the Treasury Secretary. I could use a few "honest mistakes" in my favor.

Could we have Black Friday instead of Black Monday?

I thought new October money would be added to the market at the start of this month. Apparently, it has been added to cash and not invested. And it looks like the shorts are going to profit in October rather than the longs.
I got into the shorts late yesterday by buying SH at $56.47, the S&P short ETF. So far, so good.

Market Heat Map - Carpets

http://stockcharts.com/charts/carpet.html

You can change "Price performance" to RSI.

Also of note, you can change the time frame from 2 days, up to 31. Check out thw 10-12 day picture. Lots of red going on.

Re: Flu Confusion, + Unemployment

Strep carriers are one of the groups susceptible. A great percentage of the population carries it without symptoms, easily tested. BTW, why don't they have people tested for H1N1 anyway, a good chunk already had it and did not realize it.

ZH is reporting that GS says unemployment rate tomorrow will be 9.8%. Do you think?

Re: Buy the dip mentality has flipped

Maybe so, but ST feels very oversold. VIX spiked up to the envelope. Got TNA at 41.60 with a tight stop. ST trade only.

Re: FYI

David
I like LQD over HYG because LQD has 2.67 x as many shares and to me their top holdings are better than HYG. Plus the trend line on LQD is so much better. I am waiting for LQD to break through it then things will definitely spiral downwards.

Re: Market Heat Map - Carpets

NYUGrad
How about this for some HEAT?

http://finviz.com/map.ashx?t=sec

and there is this for the BIG picture

http://finviz.com/map.ashx?t=geo

covered the FCX short

The copper price stopped falling today and is at the level that can potentially make a double bottom with last week's lows. So I have just covered at $65.64 the short that I opened earlier today at $66.24. Just practicing jumping in and out intra-day. If a downtrend has indeed been established, then by using large position sizes for the closely observed intra-day entries on the short side, I should come out with some decent gains.

Re: Volume is light. This isnt panic/capitulation yet

Re: Buy the dip mentality has flipped

I also compare now to 2002-2003 a lot. While the stocks and commodities action mimics 2003 very well, dollar was dropping since 2001 before markets got the clue in 2003. I'm uncomfortable with the current rapid response of stocks to the dropping dollar. Too short for the export to benefit from. Thus, double drop seem plausible now.

G20's departing Communique

http://tinyurl.com/y8pcvjw

This is long.

It promises reform of virtually everything that is bad - e.g., bank non-regulation and under capitalization, derivatives non-regulation. It promises economic and environmental cooperation, coordination, restraint of protectionism and much more IMF involvement of the emerging market countries.

There's a lot more.

They agreed to meet next in Canada in June 2010.

In my view, it appears to have been prepared before the meeting and does not reflect any points of contention that emerged in the meeting.

Re: Something is going on here

You really want a laugh? You had to see the interview with Dick Bove this morning. I think I laughed the hardest when Steve Liesman referred to him as one of the best banking analysts. I am seriously think these people can't remember yesterday with some of their comments. Everytime I see Dick Bove, I remember him "pounding the table" on Citi at $25. BTW I have not sold any of my puts yet.

Giving more drugs to the addict is not the answer

I think that we have so many serious long term issues to deal with concerning the huge govt deficits and currency debasement that is occurring. I just saw a really good article at http://seekingalpha.com/article/164322-expect-gold-to-reach-3-000 that discussed this problem of continuing to try to cure a patient with the drugs that made him/her sick to begin with. The story goes on to talk about the potential investment implications for fiat currencies as a result of all the money printing by central banks around the world. I personally believe that the power of central bankers to print money has gotten completely out of control, and that we will go back to a gold standard or another form of hard currency once there is enough social unrest to force our politicians to make the tough choices for the long term health of our country.

going down at the close??

Now this is something novel - going down into the close. We should remember it's the day after EOQ - and the beginning of September we also saw a big down day too.

some straightening out of facts and figures re unemployed Fri.

Perhaps the news headlines are conflating two numbers in that GS has said "we expect overall unemployment to be 9.8%." This is already consensus according to Econoday:

http://fidweek.econoday.com/byshoweventfull.asp?fi...

GS is differing in that it is calling a much higher M/M number than what consensus is for tomorrow's report. And with all due respect for investors in GS, I trust their intentions about as much as a snake's. I see an oversold market at the same time as GS is coming out with more doom and gloom.

If this 60 min channel is to hold, and I see nothing to change that at the moment, then I see "surprise" numbers giving us a lift. I'll be in front of the screen at 08:30 ready to play this whatever way it turns out. My trust of GS and the oversold nature of the 60/15/5 suggests to me a rebound in the morning. Night all.

Re: FDIC

lessmore, I gather a lot of folks consider the shell game of washing funds from the TARP through facade banks back to FDIC is a pretty big deal. Admission of the insolvency of many banks is just the tip of this iceberg.

Perhaps the question is: where is the money? I mean really. If these banks don't have it and they are borrowing from the Fed to cover their tails so they can pay their insurance to FDIC (in case they don't have money) then guess what...they probably don't!

Re: Buy the dip mentality has flipped

Stopped out from TNA before the closing.
I still think there could be a couple of days worth of rebound.

Re: Peter Schiff brings up a good point in this video

My Senator sent a memo asking everyone to support Chris Dodd against Peter Schiff, touting his work on the Finance Committee! I wrote her back a very stern email sugggesting Mr. Dodd was NOT supporting transparency and fairness in the financial industry and we could do better. Her memo was sent to citizens in other states attempting to raise funds for Dodd. Incredible. While I KNOW this is about party lines and majorities in essence, it's amazing to think that congress and citizens are so blinded to what is going on behind the scenes. Thanks to Bill and all here who help shine a light.

Oversold, overbought or overwrought

Every market that I checked went down today. Not a catastrophe, but scary.
Everyone that comments regularly and with common sense felt that a downturn was possible.
Bill C put it nicely : "something smells fishy".

Now, thanks to fellow posters, I feel justified in reaping my little profits.

My thoughts; this is not the "last dance'. Gold should rise, for a few weeks, it is the currency of choice. Here in Mexico there are some opportunities to buy, silver is always available, at a premium.

What will tomorrow bring ? My guess, more red numbers.

Re: Something is going on here

MtnGntx,

What is fishy about the swine flu PR is how the statistics are skewed and folks who don't do their own research just swollow the sugar coated news they 'need flu shots' (much less the new H1N1 shots) or they will die a horrible plague like death. Obviously big pharma is major bucks on their hastily minted vaccines.

Question: What do you say to your own clients who ask if they 'should' take these flu shots? I am concerned about immune suppressed relations in particular, elderly living at home but exposed to the 'medical' profession on a regular basis. Thanks for crawling out from under your rock to answer.

Newbie here - Has wave B or 3 topped?

Depending on your data service, various Elliott waves are in play. I have the McHugh service, who calls for one more run-up into a blow-off top.

I had Precther's EW service until recently, and they claim wave B has topped. ie retest of the March lows. Thinking of adding back the Tim Wood data service, as Precther has posted the ideal services are EW and Cycles.

Can any of you recommend better then these?
I pay for services that deliver value and these do. I scoff at $5000 miracle makers. Mu budget allows 1 to 2K for services max.

McHugh has been a double edged sword. Now that I think I finally understand him, things are better.
I need McH though, as a better than 50% prob!

My background is, I'm a laid off techie that has been consulting and used trading as fill in work.
Employment is bleak, and I'm trading to survive the next several years before start-ups be come more popular.

The employment base of the US has been gutted, over the last decade. I'm trying to bootstrap some ventures here to save our prosperity.

My hope is our plan is stronger than the apparrent
power grab to reduce us to serfdom! There is an effort (and I'm not in the Illuminati camp) to "terraform" the WW economy.
Something bad is affoot!

My interest here is to trade into the wave IV decline, and survive it.

I hope you all realize that this wave IV decline
is one or two levels higher than the 1929 decline.

I hope to learn something here, as I've tried to trade full time and found it more difficult than I thought.

GB

Newbie here - Has wave B or 3 topped?

Depending on your data service, various Elliott waves are in play. I have the McHugh service, who calls for one more run-up into a blow-off top.

I had Precther's EW service until recently, and they claim wave B has topped. ie retest of the March lows. Thinking of adding back the Tim Wood data service, as Precther has posted the ideal services are EW and Cycles.

Can any of you recommend better then these?
I pay for services that deliver value and these do. I scoff at $5000 miracle makers. Mu budget allows 1 to 2K for services max.

McHugh has been a double edged sword. Now that I think I finally understand him, things are better.
I need McH though, as a better than 50% prob!

My background is, I'm a laid off techie that has been consulting and used trading as fill in work.
Employment is bleak, and I'm trading to survive the next several years before start-ups be come more popular.

The employment base of the US has been gutted, over the last decade. I'm trying to bootstrap some ventures here to save our prosperity.

My hope is our plan is stronger than the apparrent
power grab to reduce us to serfdom! There is an effort (and I'm not in the Illuminati camp) to "terraform" the WW economy.
Something bad is affoot!

My interest here is to trade into the wave IV decline, and survive it.

I hope you all realize that this wave IV decline
is one or two levels higher than the 1929 decline.

I hope to learn something here, as I've tried to trade full time and found it more difficult than I thought.

GB

Re: Peter Schiff brings up a good point in this video

loanletter,

I urge you to enlighten 10 people and ask them for committment to enlighten 10 more. eventually this ripple will fade, but the more people we can wake up the better.

If my NYU education is worth anything, I recall a non financial course where i read Plato's "The Republic" he talks about a group of people (us) stuck in a cave. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegory_of_the_cave. Amazon: http://tinyurl.com/yd2eekx

Basically the allegory of the cave is all of us stuck in a cave, knowing only what we know, which isn't a lot. But as we realize there is a reality that we have never known, and people start to come out of the cave into the light, we then must serve the duty of bringing others out of the cave. Very much like the movie The Matrix.

Bill and this blog was a paramount influence for me to come out of the cave. we can each pull some of our friends and family out with us into the light.

A Democracy filled with people who don't even realize they are slaves, is just a tyranny!

Lower Trend lines broken on the closed prices

...from the same charts i posted earlier. SPY 60 min didn't break yet but how far behind could it be?

http://tinyurl.com/ybhfzu4
http://tinyurl.com/yc6tytz
http://tinyurl.com/ya2uby9
http://tinyurl.com/ydafaye
http://tinyurl.com/ydj2q3w

Re: Peter Schiff brings up a good point in this video

NYUGrad

"Bill and this blog was a paramount influence for me to come out of the cave. we can each pull some of our friends and family out with us into the light."

I agree on the first part, but whenever I've tried the second part, everyone (and I do mean everyone) looks at me in silence and then asks "how can you possibly be that cynical?" OR "have you been drinking?"....seriously.

Our paychecks didn't show up on payday at work today.

Did anyone else out there have this happen today? Our HR dept said it was due to a FedEx routing error. (I remember the TD Ameritrade cash problem someone mentioned earlier today).

Full Disclosure: I don't work at CIT

BofA CEO: $53 million retirement score

http://bit.ly/4EVLZx

Wow. Is anyone here a executive recruiter? I need to get a cushy CEO job. This is ridiculous.

Next stop on this train, 50 day moving averages

Next logical support area is the 50 day moving avgs. I suspect IF we go there, we pause and crack through, or pause, fake out and bounce up.

Since i didnt have an opp to build onto my QID, I will wait for QQQQ and SPY to test of the 50 day and watch if the markets can show some life. If I see a weak rally (low vol and no leaders) then I will build my short positions then.

Still holding my QID.

If we gap up and close up tomorrow on heavy volume, I will book gains and try again.

My S&P Daily chart

I am expecting more selling, but here is the cautious case of a snap back recovery tomorrow or Monday.

http://i33.tinypic.com/728410.jpg

Re: FDIC

loannetter,
The big deal is the trillions of dollars that have been looted from the US Government directly and indirectly via Treasury and Federal Reserve loans, grants and guarantees. A few billion dollars for the FDIC is, by comparison, small potatoes.

As for a governmental admission that a great many banks are insolvent, does it really matter? Does anyone believe most banks are solvent when the FDIC continually increases the number of banks expected to fail and Treasury had to conduct a specious stress test to create the illusion of banks' solvency.

"Perhaps the question is: where is the money? I mean really."
Yes. That is a very good question and government will never allow an audit to provide a true answer.

Re: My S&P Daily chart

The closing TRIN was 3.73 which supports your snap back theory.

Re: Lower Trend lines broken on the closed prices

NYUGrad

All these links come up bad for me.

Re: Lower Trend lines broken on the closed prices

Give me 1 hr. I forgot stockcharts doesn't like direct links.

Re: Jobless claims rebound in latest week

"jobless recovery"

Term is really not new. I heard the same thing after 9/11, sometime in 2002 or early 2003. A lot of the well paying jobs were lost as companies moved overseas for manufacturing.

I recall white collar job holders during this time who were laid off from jobs paying $80-100k. They could be seen hanging around in Starbucks with lattes and their laptops. No, they weren't going to take a $50-60k position; it was beneath them. Some capitulated after realizing the world had changed. Others ended up with $40k jobs. Some sold real estate where they did make some money until 2008 arrived.

And here we are again! The world has changed.

Airlines Crushed Today

Continuing to follow the airlines from a distance - been out of positions for awhile. UAUA announced a large capital raising and got knocked for 20%. Remainder of the sector got hit for 5-10% losses. Ultimately I think this was the culmination of a large push of upgrades given recently by JPMorgan and UBS that conveniently occured just prior to large capital raisings for some of the largest airlines like LCC, AMR, and UAUA to name a few. So the analysts gave the final exhuberant pump into the period of distribution. In the medium term I see the capital raisings as creating a buffer on both sides of the spectrum - reducing likelihood of bankruptcy - but also diluting potential future profits and thus limiting upside.

I'll be keeping a closer eye on this sector now that valuations are beginning to come down. UAUA at $7.30 is looking somewhat enticing - from a technical analysis perspective I am looking for a test of the $6.40-60 range where the "golden cross" recently occured (50 DMA moving above 200 DMA). I think that area may set up a nice long entry.

Re: Lower Trend lines broken on the closed prices

NYUGrad, I think its just a problem as you hot linked directly to the chart, you can only do that on the IHUB website, (which has a legacy agreement with Stockcharts), otherwise you have to link to the charting page, as follows; (converted your URL's to the charting page).

http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=SPY&p=15&yr=0&mn=...
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=$SPX&p=D&yr=0&mn=0&dy=25&i=p08783149820&a=177828460&r=949
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=QQQQ&p=60&yr=0&mn...
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=SPY&p=60&yr=0&mn=...
http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=QQQQ&p=15&yr=0&mn...

Quasi

Re: Lower Trend lines broken on the closed prices

thx

Re: Lower Trend lines broken on the closed prices

NYUGrad, quick, you caught me before I could edit my error, (can't edit after someone replies to your post).

The second link contained a $ sign, thus the software here doesn't like it and different coding is required, as follows.

http://stockcharts.com/h-sc/ui?s=$SPX&p=D&yr=0&mn=0&dy=25&i=p08783149820&a=177828460&r=949

"cap & trade"

The House Bill is called "American Clean Energy and Security Act." The Senate Bill bears the name "Clean Energy Jobs and American Power Act." House Speaker Nancy Pelosi in her own special way said the bill was about "jobs, jobs, jobs, and jobs." Chairman Edward Markey, House Energy and Environment Subcommittee not to be outdone said the bill will "create jobs by the millions, save money by the billions, and unleash energy investment by the trillions."

But a fair reading the the bills do not support all these claims. The bills will raise energy prices. That could save consumers some money by forcing them to use less energy. The bills impose strict new efficiency standards on automobiles and appliances, which will save the consumer money only if the manufacturers do not pass the increased costs of such standards to the consumer. But its more likely they will.

So, if cars, homes, goods, and energy are more expensive and consumers buy less, does anyone think industry will not layoff a bunch of employees. They will.

Optimistically, the bills' sponsors would claim that the bills' "green jobs" will offset the loss of other jobs.

But this is just hype and they know it. There is a section setting up a petition process for displaced workers in energy-producing, energy dependent, energy intensive and consumer goods manufacturing industries, or those industries related to energy, or energy-intensive industries. Such displaced workers can petition for job re-training, and cash benefits to assist in obtaining other jobs. Congress is preparing for job losses that are so significant that a retraining and special cash assistance program has to be established.

Preview to Chart Pattern Trader video for later tonight

http://bit.ly/Wu4pH

If you go to his public charts after dinner time ET, he will already have updated his notes, trendlines and scribbles.

I'll post once the video is up, or you can refer to my blog later tonight. or go direct to his blog.

Warning about the "Green shoots" of green technology

Montreal, September 15, 2009 • No 270

Harry Valentine is a
free-marketeer living in Eastern Ontario.

THE EMPEROR'S DERRIÈRE
ECONOMIC RECOVERY OR SIGNS OF AN EMERGING MALINVESTMENT BOOM?

by Harry Valentine

Over the past few weeks, various news stories have suggested that the economy may be recovering. Some so-called experts have even suggested a "jobless economic recovery." Amidst mounting job losses in the manufacturing sector and in several service sectors, there have been reports of increased activity in the Canadian housing market. There are also allegedly some signs of possible economic recovery emerging from the United States and claims from elected officials that the "economy has bottomed out," despite mounting job losses.

Over the past 12 months, the US Federal Reserve has increased the amount of printed money by over 70% and dropped interest rates nearly to 0%. Canada has done likewise and dropped interest rates to record lows. While politicians complain about banks not lending out enough money, both the governments of the United States and of Canada have initiated various economic stimulus packages that include public works projects and green energy projects. Much of the money that has been allocated to the renewable/green energy sector is regarded as seed money that will grow new business opportunities.

Ontario's Power Glut

Toward the end of July, Ontario provided an example of the downside of government investment in new energy projects. Prior to the mortgage meltdown of late 2008, the government of Ontario had for several years indicated a projected shortfall in electrical generation capacity. The industrial heartland of Ontario (and of Canada) had seen numerous cutbacks and layoffs during that period and authorities seemed willing to build new nuclear power stations to meet the projected power demand.

Then in July 2009, the government received bid prices for new nuclear reactors, and these were far in excess of what officials expected. It had no sooner cancelled plans to build new reactors than the power operator announced that the province had excess generating capacity. Factory closures across Ontario had reduced the demand for electrical power dramatically, a situation that is now expected to remain unchanged for the next 5 years. Tax revenue that had been allocated to develop new renewable energy technology for use in Ontario may now achieve little.

Ontario may not be the only jurisdiction in North America to make the transition from a projected shortage of electrical power to an excess of generating capacity, courtesy of factory closures and a drastic drop in demand for electrical power. But in several cases, companies will use state stimulus funds as seed money to develop new electrical generation technology from clean and renewable resources, a policy supported by no less eminent an official than the new American president.

"There is likely to be a boom in the development of a variety of renewable energy power generation technologies. But once they are developed, not all energy conversion technologies are going to be cost-competitive in a free market against traditional technologies."

Green Boom Would Likely Bust

There is a very high propensity for state funding of the renewable energy technology sector to follow the path of the high-tech sector of a decade ago. During the 1990s, a large number of companies in the high-tech sector gained easy access to government funding and special low-interest loans. The easy money first gave rise to a high-tech boom that was followed by the high-tech malinvestment boom, culminating in the dot-com bust and high-tech meltdown just after 2000. The US Federal Reserve tried to re-ignite the high-tech boom by making special funds available, but to no avail.

There is a high propensity over the short term for state-provided stimulus funding to create the illusion of economic recovery as various public works projects and some green energy projects get underway. Public works projects such as road repairs and infrastructure upgrades are essentially short-term projects. The manufacturing sector is ultimately the cornerstone of wealth creation, provided they produce useable products for which there will be a long-term and growing market.

Earlier forecasts had indicated a growing market for electric power in Ontario, prior to the extreme contraction of that province's manufacturing sector that consumes a large proportion of their electric power. There are forecasts of growing demand for electric power coming from across North America. Much stimulus funding has become available to fund the development of a variety of clean, renewable energy technologies. However, the accuracy of some of these forecasts are questionable given the recent precedent set by Ontario.

While a few renewable energy technologies can compete cost-wise with fossil-fuel power technologies in an unfettered free market, most cannot. State stimulus funding is available to almost anyone with a renewable energy technology concept or idea. There is likely to be a boom in the development of a variety of renewable energy power generation technologies. But once they are developed, not all energy conversion technologies are going to be cost-competitive in a free market against traditional technologies. Ontario had earlier proposed to offer 80 cents per kilowatt-hour to purchase electric power from solar-electric farms.

Several other jurisdictions are considering similar programs that essentially subsidize the operation of costly technologies. Such programs would likely encourage companies to use easily available state stimulus funding to develop a variety of power generation technologies that produce electricity from clean renewable energy at very high costs. Not all of these companies or their technologies will be viable or competitive as they enter a subsidized, state-regulated market. Just as the high-tech bust followed the high-tech malinvestment boom, a green energy technology bust will likely follow a green energy technology malinvestment boom.

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Re: Airlines Crushed Today

An announcement was jsut released on the pricing of the UAUA offering:

"The company announced that it has agreed to sell 19 million shares of its common stock at a public offering price of $7.24 per share. The company has also granted the underwriters an over-allotment option with respect to an additional 2.85 million shares of its common stock on the same terms and conditions to cover over-allotments, if any.

The company also announced the pricing of $300 million aggregate principal amount of convertible senior notes due 2029. The company has granted the underwriters an over-allotment option with respect to an additional $45 million aggregate principal amount of convertible senior notes on the same terms and conditions to cover over-allotments, if any. The convertible senior notes will pay interest semi-annually at an annual rate of 6.0%.

...

J.P. Morgan Securities Inc., Morgan Stanley & Co. Incorporated and Goldman, Sachs & Co. acted as joint book-running managers of both offerings."

So JPMorgan's analyst upgraded UAUA on September 10th, from Underweight to Overweight, which caused shares to jump above $7 and run above $9. Three weeks later JPMorgan completes a $400m financing for UAUA. Must just be a coincidence...there is a Chinese Wall policy of course. Unbelievable.

Re: Lower Trend lines broken on the closed prices

NYUGrad, yes its a trendline story, short / med / long term.. And all those terms have become a little shorter these days. Here's one of my medium term chart lists, of indexes and at this point they are still in an uptrend on the daily / weekly swing trade time frame. Its part of the problem here as most daily posts are by minute by minute day traders. When many of us look at the weeklies and use the dailies only for entry exit points, (60 or 10 min charts, for us, are only entertainment when we have a weekday off work).

Not sure if you all can see this one, as its on one of my fav lists at Stockcharts
http://stockcharts.com/def/servlet/Favorites.CServlet?obj=2368072,61&cmd=show[]extra[uu[305,A]dallyaci[pb20!b80][dd][ilb7]]&disp=F

If not attached is screen shot of the above.

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Is our economy really like an engine?

I know this has been talked about before, but this simplifies it, no?

Montreal, August 15, 2009 • No 269

Harry Valentine is a
free-marketeer living in Eastern Ontario.

THE EMPEROR'S DERRIÈRE
THE VAPOUR-LOCKED AND FLOODED ENGINE:
AN ANALOGY OF ECONOMIC DOWNTURN

by Harry Valentine

Most people who have long-term knowledge of automobile engines have at some time encountered the phenomenon of the flooded engine. Usually, a cold engine becomes flooded after too much fuel enters the combustion chambers. Warm engines can also become flooded when excess fuel enters the combustion chambers, and the engine can stall. A hot engine can also become vapour-locked when excess fuel in the system vaporizes.

Combustion usually occurs within a narrow range of the ratio between fuel and air that starts the engine. While automotive companies have been developing engines that can operate on very small amounts of fuel and large amounts of air, flooding the engine with excess fuel usually causes problems. An engine that burns excess fuel could produce less power and run at lower efficiency.

The Vapour-locked Economy

The analogy of the flooded and vapour-locked automotive engine may be applied to the current economic situation. When too much monetary fuel is pumped into an economic engine, it can generate less real output while producing excess heat. The former chairman of the US Federal Reserve literally flooded the economy's engine with excess monetary fuel when he lowered interest rates to unprecedented levels that were far below natural free-market levels.

Initially, the increase of monetary fuel brought about a perceived increase in economic performance in the high-tech sector during the 1990's. But the increase in easily available monetary fuel promoted reckless economic driving by new entrepreneurs eager to explore the new economic landscape. The additional fuel was used at lower efficiency in the economy and caused a boom of malinvestment in the high-tech sector.

The high-tech sector overheated due to the inefficiency of massive malinvestment, just as an automotive engine can overheat due to inefficient use of excess fuel. The result was the dot-com bust and high-tech meltdown of 2000. The Federal Reserve and related financial institutions immediately attempted to restart the overheated and vapour-locked information sector of the economy by pumping in even more monetary fuel. The overheated high-tech sector responded no differently than an overheated and vapour-locked automotive engine when a so-called expert tries to restart the stalled engine by pumping in excess fuel. The so-called expert in this case who flooded the stalled and overheated engine of the high-tech sector was former Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan.

Overheated Housing

Efforts by officials at the US Federal Reserve and other quasi-government agencies had little effect on restarting the high-tech boom. Market forces prevailed and forced the overheated North American high-tech sector to cool down. At the time, however, there was growing political support in Washington to encourage more Americans to become homeowners. Until then, the home building industry had weathered its ups and downs while undergoing moderate growth. State-sponsored programs aimed at increasing home ownership literally increased the volume of monetary fuel that was being pumped into the engine of the home building industry.

"The economic engine of the home building industry accelerated to spectacular and unprecedented levels of performance while the Federal Reserve disregarded warnings that the housing sector could overheat and become vapour-locked."

The economic engine of the home building industry began to accelerate as the new monetary fuel entered the system. Various government agencies, along with banks that were being regulated by the Federal Reserve, initiated programs that made it easier for more people to acquire mortgages and become homeowners, irrespective of their previous long-term credit records. The economic engine of the home building industry accelerated to spectacular and unprecedented levels of performance while the Federal Reserve disregarded warnings that the housing sector could overheat and become vapour-locked.

Even prior to the mortgage meltdown, the engine of the housing sector began to overheat and show signs of distress. That engine eventually did overheat and become vapour-locked on October 14, 2008. Some parts of that engine, including financial institutions such as Bear Stearns, literally seized up. One problem with the Federal Reserve is that when they pump out excess monetary fuel in order to stimulate growth in any one sector of the economy, the only control they really have is the fuel throttle. They have no gauges to provide them with accurate information about the conditions of the engine cooling system or the lubrication system.

More of the Same

The US Federal Reserve and many other central banks around the world are now once again endeavouring to rebuild stalled economies by pumping more monetary fuel into an overheated engine that has stalled and become vapour-locked. The stalled economic engine may occasionally splutter during the restart exercise. Politicians and their advisors may misread these signals and proclaim that the economy is showing signs of recovery. But by pumping newly-printed monetary fuel into an overheated and vapour-locked economic engine, central bankers are just flooding that engine in their efforts to get it restarted. All that such action will ultimately achieve is to prolong the economic downturn, as is happening throughout most of the world.

The United States experienced a severe economic downturn in 1920, but Presidents Wilson and Harding did what any sensible car owner would do when faced with an overheated and stalled engine. They cut government spending and allowed the overheated and vapour-locked economic engine to cool down on its own. By the end of 1921, economic recovery was well underway in the United States. In fact, few citizens at the time were even aware that they had lived through a very severe, but very short, economic downturn. Too bad this wisdom has been so thoroughly forgotten today.

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Fiat is history maybe...has the G20 shaped US money printing or.

...will Big Ben still print, print, print?

Montreal, June 15, 2009 • No 268

Harry Valentine is a
free-marketeer living in Eastern Ontario.

THE EMPEROR'S DERRIÈRE
REAL SIGNALS OR THE ILLUSION
OF ECONOMIC RECOVERY?

by Harry Valentine

The 'libertarian' economist who presently serves as Canada's Prime Minister delivered an economic report on June 11th in which he suggested that the Canadian economy was beginning to show signs of a turn-around. He then mentioned a range of very spectacular public works projects that could only be achieved through a federal deficit and that were intended to stimulate real economic recovery. However, the accuracy of such a prediction is highly questionable, if only for the simple reason that for up to a decade during the 1990s, Japan provided the precedent for publicly-funded efforts to stimulate a stagnant economy. Japan's economy underwent a series of little booms, but none of them re-ignited the stellar economic performance of the 1980s. Like Canada, Japan was heavily dependent on the American market to buy its products.

While Canada's spectacular public works program may in fact stimulate economic activity over the short term, the results over the long term are uncertain. While government economists remain convinced that the short-term economic stimulation would inevitably lead to prosperity and economic stability over the long term, there is no proof of this. The Canadian economy is heavily dependent on American markets. Canadian protectionism, courtesy of the provincial governments, has brought on a retaliatory response in the form of a 'buy-USA' policy whenever American public funds are concerned.

Foreign Currency Alarm

The American Federal Reserve has literally been printing new paper currency 'like a drunken sailor' and such action has raised alarm bells on foreign currency markets. China holds almost US$2 trillion in US currency and nearly US$800 billion in various US treasury bills and US bonds. China, Russia and a few other Asian nations have begun to voice concern over ultra-low American interest rates and the rate of expansion of US paper currency. Such expansion (or inflation of the amount of currency) is causing the US dollar to decline in value against several other foreign currencies.

The Bank of Canada has attempted to reduce the value of the Canadian dollar against the American dollar by lowering interest rates to 0.25%, but to limited avail. At present, the American dollar is still the world's reserve currency. However, there have been rumblings from Asia to replace the American dollar with some other form of currency. So far, the American Fed seems willing to push currency markets to the limit by continuing to use the printing presses to inflate the supply of American paper currency.

"The American Federal Reserve has literally been printing new paper currency 'like a drunken sailor' and such action has raised alarm bells on foreign currency markets."

The prevailing attitude among top officials at the Fed seems to be that world currency markets are not ready to begin to dump the US dollar. Prior to the invasion of Iraq, Saddam Hussein refused to accept American currency as payment for Iraqi oil but accepted Euros. Such action is believed by some to have contributed to the American decision to invade Iraq, given that no chemical stockpiles or weapons of mass destruction have thus far been discovered in that country. There is, however, the remote risk of some money markets dumping the American dollar and causing it to decline drastically in value against many other currencies, perhaps even against the Canadian dollar.

Recovery or Mirage?

What, then, can we make of the Rt. Hon former libertarian's proclamation of economic recovery in view of Canada's dependency on the US market and the decline of the US dollar against other currencies, including the Canadian dollar? It may only be valid over the short term in a stagnant economy. We will agree with him that there may in fact be a small economic bubble or 'micro-boom' that is giving off signals that mimic those of economic recovery.

The American economy is literally a mess and would need to rapidly create many high-paying jobs in order to generate customers who will buy new cars from a Fiat-Chrysler consortium and from the New General Motors (aka, Government Motors). The Government stimulus packages in the US and Canada may in fact create many new high-paying jobs, over the short term. Many of these wage earners may actually buy new cars from the new GM and Fiat-Chrysler over that short term. But deficit-ridden stimulus packages provide no guarantee whatsoever for economic recovery over the long term.

While the American Fed steadfastly refuses to shut off the printing presses and raise interest rates, world currency markets may compel it to do exactly that should those currency markets begin to dump the American dollar. Shutting off the printing presses and raising interest rates will definitely precipitate a major economic upheaval across the USA and Canada. It will also provide an opportunity to liquidate the massive malinvestment in the American (and Canadian) economy, eventually allowing markets to generate genuine signals instead of the misleading and distorted signals generated by ultra-low interest rates.

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THE LAST DAY

ALOHA !!

Today is October 1st the official first day of FY 2010, however today is the last "reporting day" for FY 2009, as for today the US TREASURY DAILY STATEMENT is for September 30th.

WOW ...

So much DEBT was generated at the US PONZI, I mean the US TREASURY, that it gives "SHOCK AND AWE" a new meaning! The MOUSE MONEY is in hyper-drive!

For starters, between "marketable" DEBT and "non-marketable DEBT the total DEBT increased $342.4BIL USD on Wednesday. We had $114BIL USD come through in the form of US Treasury Notes and we had $227.6BIL USD coming from Government Account Series and another $670MIL USD in "Other Debt" line items.

The gross US PUBLIC DEBT grew by $134BIL USD to $11.91TRIL USD. Remember the US PUBLIC "subject" to limits, known as the DEBT CEILING is at $12.1TRIL USD. The total US PUBLIC DEBT subject to limits(not the gross)as of Wednesday sits at $11.85TRIL USD. I do not know where Obama or Geithner are but they need to come back to Earth and kick the US Congress into high gear, because they are up against the $12.1TRIL USD DEBT CEILING right now!

Combined direct government spending(outlays) and US Treasury issues stand at $13.5TRIL USD. Direct outlays accounted for $4.6TRIL USD worth. So the US Treasury has achieved near 100% parity with US GDP in terms of combined outlays and debt. Where's the growth rate for all the DEBT? What have our elected leaders achieved with all this unlimited spending? Where are the jobs? Where are the free markets? Where are the troops? Where is crime? Where is poverty? WHERE IS "CHANGE"?

As it is they can blame Bush for part of this DEBT since Obama did not take office until Jan 20th, yet he sat in the US Congress for ten years pressing the SPEND button every day. As of today, October 1st, though whatever DEBT gets issued over the next three fiscal years(FY) is all on the Obama/Geithner watch.

Be Prepared to hear the same old rhetoric we have heard since the 1940 about the DEBT CEILING ... In 1940 the very first DEBT CEILING was set at $43.2BIL USD and since then it has been raised except right after WW2 and the Korean War it went down when we got back onto the gold standard, but after the Vietnam War was declared over in 1975 it did not come down it skyrocketed ever since going up over $100BIL in 1976 to $622BIL. Then in 1982 the Statutory Debt Limit went over $1TRIL USD for the first time. It double going over $2TRIL USD by 1986. By 1990 it was raised to over $3TRIL. By 1993, three years later, it was raised over $4TRIL. Three more years later in 1996 it was raised over $5TRIL USD. In 2002 it went over $6TRIL and by 2008 it was over $9TRIL. Now it is at $12.1TRIL, so how high will the US Congress raise it next?

Do you get my point? Why bother having a DEBT CEILING? WHAT CEILING? Its embarrassing ... This is yet another reason I say that our monetary system is based on the "human condition". There are no brakes on how BIG the US government can get. We have had 96 years of the US FED and 70 years of DEBT CEILINGS. This fiat money experiment has been an absolute failure ...

Let's see how FY 2010 opens tomorrow ...

Dead cat bounce? Or bear trap redux? (Catalyst jobs report?)

David- Obviously, I disembarked way too early. All that practice over the summer cutting losses quickly/banking (short) gains quickly naturally had me doing the same this morning.

Shorting, as they say, is not easy. And when it goes your way, you're never holding enough.

On the other hand, I side-stepped major losses through the summer using the very strategy that capped my gains today.

In any case, what matters is the next play.

(a) It's possible we just continue down. After all, we went up non-stop. And it always goes down faster than it goes up (short squeezes notwithstanding). This would also be the favored scenario if the trend has in fact reversed, as it would disallow easy boarding.

(b) We may bounce, and then continue down. This would be the best scenario for nascent bears. Solid entry points.

(c) Just another bear trap. What if today's sell-off launches the move to 10000? That's probably the scenario that caused me to exit shorts this morning.

Any opinions? (I don't think hashing out different scenarios runs counter to 'opinionless trading.' It's more like being prepared for likely patterns and mentally rehearsing your approaches to them.)

The jobs report, of course, could catalyze a move in either direction. As well as a move in one direction followed by one or more counter-moves.

SLR UPDATE

ALOHA !!

The Trading Halt has ended. As I type this the share price is still holding at $0.88AUD, while the ASX is down some 100 points.

There isn't much gist to the funding news release ... ITS THE EXPLORATION STUPID! Some $18mil AUD worth in an all share deal, no debt, no forward sales, no banks. Some 23.2mil shares at $0.79 ...

I believe total cash will jump to near $40mil on this funding, with no debt or hedge and high grade ore production and blue sky exploration targets ahead. I see the dilution as worthwhile as I believe the share price acceleration will pay off for shareholders. We'll see, but so far so good on that score!

In essence they want to accelerate the exploration and prove up 5mil plus Au ozs within two years. None of the funding is to push production. In the release they specifically point out "every dollar is going into exploration"(see page 11)! Getting that specific ... Hummmm???

As I read it the Mt. Monger exploration program has a 2mil-4.5mil Au oz potential while the Murchison exploration program has a 3mil Au oz growth potential at higher grades. Now the SLR share price will hang on drill results since it seems production will not accelerate. The company will remain profitable and gold production will proceed on schedule but exploration will now ramp up. Only 3% of historical holes drilled on these two programs have been over 100meters in depth, so that's not very deep at all. The latest drill results proved the potential at depth so management is moving on it.

Here are the details ...
SLR LINK: http://www.asx.com.au/asxpdf/20091002/pdf/31l3l07k...

I am disappointed they are not going to move production but SLR has had critics talk down their mine life potential in the past. This new focus should address those concerns and end them.

FD: YES

Re: SLR UPDATE

Kaimu,

Got into SLR at $0.88, heck I already made money, lol.

Another item of note to all. Check DVN after-hours, I think something good is happening.

FD: OWN DVN AND SLR

Buying physical gold...

To all the gold buyers out there, I am looking to purchase 150 oz of gold in December, is it realistic to expect deliver of such an amount?

Also, planning on buying about $10k in junk silver, if it goes to hell in a handbasket.

Thanks,

EZ

Delete..

Sorry for the double post

Chart Pattern Trader - oct 1 vid up

Re: Newbie here - Has wave B or 3 topped?

CB said: "I hope to learn something here, as I've tried to trade full time and found it more difficult than I thought."

Welcome to the club! It is difficult but I love games and a challenge. Trading is a great combination of both.

"I pay for services that deliver value and these do. I scoff at $5000 miracle makers. Mu budget allows 1 to 2K for services max."

I was paying The Motley Fool but now between the various posts here, blog links elsewhere and my accumulating experience I pay only Stockcharts now. There's enough information out there for free.

"My interest here is to trade into the wave IV decline, and survive it."

Why only survive it? I wanna short it all the way back to 666 or even better. Plenty of time for that, so I'm not going to try to guess the top. Have fun.

Re: SLR UPDATE

What sort of time frame does a company like SLR release drilling results Kaimu? I'm still waiting for a shakedown in gold (and if really lucky, a shakedown in the dollar carry trade), so if drilling results aren't released in the next couple of weeks I'd be happy to see more change per share from the $1 dollar price SLR was brushing up against recently. Are they going to spit out drilling results ASAP or is there a window of opportunity as I've just "hoped" for?

A Priori versus Empirical Reasoning and Practical Decision-Makin

For thought and discussion. This article you can tie into NYUGrad's post on shadows in the cave. I have my doubts about applying the ontology of traditional science like Physics (example: an atom is precisely this or that) to a social science like Economics (which involves human beings who do not necessarily share the same outlook in anything) but that I'll leave to my own future studies.

It just occurred to me that Vad and Bill are teaching us in the discipline of trading the same principle that Plato wanted to teach people in the discipline of philosophy. The legendary trader Jesse Livingstone in "Reminiscence of a Stock Operator" can help everyone abandon their "a priori" beliefs and ego as much as any course of philosophy. Even if one is not interested in being a daytrader, the belief system that comes with being a trader can be absorbed by everyone here and applied to all aspects of trading and their lives in general. JMO and FWIW. cheers.

From Jesse's:

"In times of change learners inherit the earth; while the learned find themselves beautifully equipped to deal with a world that no longer exists."

Eric Hoffer

A Priori:
from Latin, literally "from the former." Reasoning that starts from accepted first principles or facts requiring no proof or foundation, being a self-evident assumption to the true believer

Empirical:
a. Relying on or derived from observation or experiment: empirical results that supported the hypothesis. b. Verifiable or provable by means of observation or experiment: empirical laws. 2. Guided by practical experience and not theory,

A Priori reasoning is often associated with religion and other belief systems, because it is 'top down' reasoning from a given, accepted fact that is judged to be self-evident and sufficient in itself. So for example, if one believes in an all-powerful and loving God, one can start making logical deductions from that first principle.

Empirical reasoning is often associated with the 'scientific method.' This is reasoning from the "bottom up" based on data, evidence and replicable experimentation and demonstrable relationships. Empirical reasoning can only take one so far, and generally follows the pattern of hypothesis - proof - re-examination - new hypothesis based on new data or insights.

In Economics, it never ceases to amaze how quickly people gravitate towards a priori reasoning once they have become wedded to a belief in an idea, a trading system, a school of thought, or a cult of personality..."

http://jessescrossroadscafe.blogspot.com/

Re: ONEX To Offer Retailers Junk Bond Fund

If this doesn't take the cynical breath out of you, I don't know what will:

http://www.financialpost.com/news-sectors/story.ht...

Still, it could make an excellent bear market rally trade for future bear market rallies.

Re: Newbie here - Has wave B or 3 topped?

'Why only survive it? I wanna short it all the way back to 666 or even better.'

Les, what's your preferred way of going short on the S&P? SPY Puts ? Shorting the SPY? Or via the (double) inverse ETFs?

Re: Newbie here - Has wave B or 3 topped?

haha whatchya asking me for? I'm learning that myself.

But seriously, leverage with options is an option - pun intended - I'll leave for later.

I am enjoying practicing intraday/short term trades. I will be shortly equipped for daytrading which I prefer simply because I am so damned busy. When the kids need help with homework (trading begins for me at 1530 local time) or I've gotta do dinner (I'm the cook) I just wanna close the trade, drop the risk, and walk away.

Have a look at the latest vid from the Chart Pattern Trader (CPT):

http://thechartpatterntrader.blogspot.com/

I used the 3X SPY bear (SPXU) closing time Tuesday to catch the ride down the channel Wednesday at opening, selling on the snapback. I have very limited daytrading rights with present account, so I risk holding overnight. Didn't buy in again because I was away from the screen yesterday. The CPT has been short since Tuesday, and he added Wednesday on the retest of the upper boundary. Ask him what he's shorting with. He has a 6-8 week time frame for this bearish trend, so I doubt he's long SPXU. Anyone else shorting the market with any particular tools?

I'm happy to use the CPT's idea of the 60 min chart (his preferred chart time frame I think) being my guide on the way down and using appropriate tools within that framework. On the way up I didn't have a clue what I was doing, so the 60 min chart will be my clue on the way down.

FD: long UPRO on anticipated channel bounce. This could change at any moment today.

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Re: SLR UPDATE

ALOHA !!

LES-As far as I know there is no set date for drill results except that I know the management plans to do a monthly announcement at the minimum. I am not sure what their lab status is for assays in terms of turnaround time.

I am interested to know who these "institutional investors" are that are participating in this funding. I already know Sprott Assets is on board as a major shareholder. I am not sure if these "investors" are newcomers or not, but any substantial shareholders will have to report either a ASX Form 603 or 604 just like Sprott did a few months ago.

Re: SLR UPDATE

Thanks Kaimu, could you keep us updated on that please. Of the probabilities that face this market going forward, it looks like a good bet that the US dollar goes to hell in a handbasket, gradually or otherwise, gold is going to come through a winner and as you've previously mentioned, currencies backed by real commodities will be worth more in the future. SLR appears to be a damn good choice in these outcomes.

Re: SLR UPDATE

Les (& Kaimu)- If your going to do some due diligence on Oz gold miners make sure you do some on Andean (AND) and Centamin (CNT). I believe both are dual listed on another exchanges too.

They will both be monsters by all accounts. At the right price they are seriously good investments. Just a heads up.

I don't own at the moment, having sold out of both in the last month, but I will definately be re investing heavily after any correction.

Don't take my word for it, but I thought if your going to do some DD you'd be mad not to include them in your research. After the big boys Newcrest (NCM) and Lihir (LGL) these will most likely be two of the next 3 or 4 that the Australian insto's pile into if and when gold breaks out upwards.

Cheers
Ad

Re: SLR UPDATE

Thanks Ad, but I am one of those tipster's who doesn't want to do the work - I just want the tip :)

But seriously, I trust Kaimu and Bill to corner the best and safest junior miners, knowing their collective aversion to economic and business fraud. Non US denominated mining equities get top billing.

BIS GOLD

ALOHA!!

A BIS DIS ...

Once the IMF GOLD is sold, if it is ... I was thinking who else has a lot of gold sitting around collecting dust? I decided to check out the BIS and so I went to their Balance Sheet for March 2009(latest)and they record $25BIL SDR worth of "gold deposits" as ASSETS, then they list $23BIL SDR of "gold and gold sales" as LIABILITIES, so in actuality then the BIS has $2BIL of gold deposits as ASSETS, yet if these are "gold deposits" then obviously this BIS gold does not belong to the BIS, but some other central bank or banks have the gold "on deposit". Unless the BIS is talking about an actual gold deposit, some open pit there in downtown Zurich ... HA!! Well, the US Gold Reserves list "deep storage" ... HA!! Now how "deep" is "deep"? It depends on your definition of the word "deep" is ... It depends on what your definition of the word "is" ... is ... Is deep ... Is deep or is deep is?

Okay, so I went to the NOTES to view more detail and I may as well have put on a blindfold and played "pin-the-tail-on-the-derivative" for all the clarity you get from the BIS notes. I thought to myself, 'what else can you expect from a bank that claims to be the "central bank for all central banks"?' At least the US Treasury will state what the value of the US gold reserves are listed at $42.22USD per ounce, but on the BIS the Note 11/12 just talks about spot prices, not even a date or a $$$ amount, and conversions between a USD and a SDR. Then those notes refer you to Note 17 and all Note 17 does is repeat what Notes 11 and 12 said ... round and round and round. If none of this was a PONZI then those BIS notes would actual disclose some useful and accurate accounting information instead of a quick game of "guess the numbers"! Fill in the blanks!

BIS-Bank for International Settlements, based in Basel, Switzerland. What has happened to the Swiss banks? Is there an honest bank left anywhere in this Fiat World? I used to have such high regard for banks when I was a kid growing up ... You guys remember what it was like to go into a bank when you were a kid and open up your first bank account? With all the high ceilings and marble floors and mahogany deep rich woods and golden trim on the huge vault door, it was like going into a Church or some sacred temple. Man, all that BS is right out the window for me now! Jefferson had it right ... "Den of Vipers and Thieves ..." Little did I know or my parents know for that matter. We were all brainwashed! Sometimes I think Americans suffer from Stockholm Syndrome when it comes to our relationship with the US FED and its member banks. How much of our wealth will we allow them to steal before we JUST SAY NO? So far its been a lot and I don't see an end in sight.

Good night ... Mahalo ...

Re: Lower Trend lines broken on the closed prices

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Re: SLR UPDATE

I hear ya Les. Look at it this way then. Along with SLR they are two of the very few that reached all time highs (above 07 peaks) in the last spurt.

I'm not ramping them mate, just saying if your looking for quality Oz goldies, these two cut the mustard big time.

All the best
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Re: SLR UPDATE

ALOHA !!

Oopps ...

Les posted - "But seriously, I trust Kaimu and Bill to corner the best and safest junior miners ..."

Les, there is no such thing as a "best and safest" junior! Besides Bill has never endorsed or approved of SLR and I doubt he owns any shares or puts any of the CTA clients into SLR.

DYODD ... as they say!

Okay ... now GOOD NIGHT & Mahalo ...

The Best & Safest Junior Au Exploration / Miner

Hi All: I love it - a bit of an oxymoron, but here goes. Greystar, Evolving, Centamin, Minefinders, Nova and Northern Dynasty. Nothing safe in these but they do have some reserve ounces, money and good people to spend it wisely. Happy Trading

CIT says bondholders to take a haircut-no FED bailout this time

"Under the offer, which seeks to end months of uncertainty about CIT's future, holders of the lender's shorter-dated bonds will get more new debt than owners of bonds that mature later, people familiar with the matter said.

The aim is to get bondholders holding about $31 billion in debt to slash this by at least $5.7 billion, said CIT in a statement late Thursday night. In addition, if not enough creditors holding bonds maturing from 2009 to 2012 sign on, the debt restructuring will also fall apart.

If the debt exchange offer fails, CIT said it will seek bankruptcy protection to reorganize under a prepackaged plan that would offer creditors less than what the company is now offering.

The plan can't be changed or amended, said a person familiar with the matter. The plan has been approved by CIT's board members, the company said.

The company already has commitments from holders of about $10 billion of its debt, though it isn't clear how much savings those holders would be willing to offer. Still, having that many creditors on board already pressures CIT's other bondholders to participate in the debt exchange."

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125444327517858013...

Will this have debtholders in general running for the exit en masse? Deep pocketed Hedge Funds to clean up?

Re: SLR UPDATE

Yeh Yeh you know what I mean. I've learnt from you two - and Luggie and a couple of others as well - to understand the difference between a salesman and a miner.

Fed's weighting as a creditor in free market under scrutiny

The Fed bailed Lehman Bros. just before bankruptcy and got paid back in full. I guess that's possible when you are (above) the law. Speaks oodles about the place of government and so-called government entities in the free market place.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125443891097957691...

Re: A Priori versus Empirical Reasoning and Practical ...

Les,

Excellent summary.

One of the most important things I took from Taleb's Black Swan book was how quickly we are inclined to establish a "storyline" — grasp those bits of news which support it and ignore or minimize any which contradict.

This is something I did spring 2008 much to my regret and must constantly guard against.

I had been heavily into and out of SKF. My retirement account was full commission, but I had been making huge gains and decided I "knew" the pattern and quit setting stops. My 25% net worth gains dropped to 15% loss in about two weeks when the ban on shorting selected banks was imposed.

Some concentrated trading took me back to even by year end, but I constantly need to remind myself to avoid expecting to be able to fly on auto pilot EVER!

I see trying to match present day too closely to any historical pattern as playing Russian roulette. There are always more variables than we comprehend.

As Mark Twian said, "It ain't what you don't know that gets you, it's what you know that just ain't true."

This will hang over my computer from now on along with...

"No one in this world, so far as I know, has ever lost money underestimating the intelligence of the great masses of plain people." H.L. Menchen

Avoid the herd.

Unemployment numbers even worse than GS estimates

http://fidweek.econoday.com/byshoweventfull.asp?fi...

GS was telling a grain of truth... Why?

Hey guys and gals. Friday comments are up

This thread is so yesterday :)

Re: SLR UPDATE - safest juniors ...

I agree, Les, you can't count on anyone to keep you "safe" with juniors. I think MOST fraud reveals itself through the track record of the board and management, but NOT ALL. If you do DD, you'll catch that part.

BUT, I think the bigger risks are simply the risks involved in growing a junior:country risk, exploration risk, development risk, etc. And NOBODY can know the outcome in those areas in advance. You pays your money and you takes your chance ...

I read the other day from a sage: "the odds of moving from a geological anomaly to a profitable mine are 3,000 to 1". Most juniors start with land where they have identified geological anomalies.

Rick Rule has said that of 10 mines, only 1 is long-term profitable.

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