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Cara's Commentary & Community Chat, Wed., Apr. 1, 2009

[8:34am ET] Is the globalization protest not one of reacting to the growing political influence in the lives of the working people? Never in my lifetime have I seen money and politics so inextricably linked. Never in my lifetime have I seen a US President so unhesitatingly override the lawful rights of corporations and employees and attack the freedom of capital markets.

This President ought to speak more cautiously, knowing the workers and the owners of capital he is affecting are not all Americans, and that the majority of Americans are now so disenchanted with his performance. Charisma, intellect and oratory can take a person very far in life. But, at the end of the day, it is the people who will decide.


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ADP Job loss numbers higher than expected. 742k for march.

I am short financials this am.

*not meant for investment advice.

Re: ADP Job loss numbers higher than expected. 742k for march.

NYU,

Would you be short GE, with its longer lived situation in the Mart to Market most likely priced in...I could be wrong on this.

Re: ADP Job loss numbers higher than expected. 742k for march.

I really don't know too much about GE. sorry. but it looks to me that big money has been distributing the stock the past 40 days.

kaimu as bernanke in community pictures

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Re: ADP Job loss numbers higher than expected. 742k for march.

The ADP report is based on data from 400,000 businesses with about 24 million workers on payrolls.

That's a 3% loss of jobs in just one month. At this rate I don't see how unemployment doesn't reach the mid-teens before all is said and done.

Very depressing news.

spectator sport

Mark- That's what trading will be for me today. No edge- watching from the sidelines until one develops. Only positions right now are C, BAC, and SLW. Trying to build longer-term holdings in these. Targeting SPY 76.60 for re-entry into the buy-and-hold.

Re: ADP Job loss numbers higher than expected. 742k for march.

Thanks, I did notice it peaking with the rest of the market.

TBT

buy limit 43.25 pre open.

GE

Scottrade has a volume moving average study in their Elite charting. It makes a interesting picture of GE volume rising and usually staying above the moving average during the sell off to 3/4/09, and declining volume not rising above the average on this little rally.

Maybe we get another shot at <$5?

FAZ

sell stop 28.50. Close + 10 day ATR. Scale selling.

BE CAREFUL

Ended up with the virus and took most of 3 hours to get rid of it.
If your browser redirects to a link that looks like a video display of a google search, don't click the play arrow displayed in the middle of the screen.
Unhook your computer from the internet as soon as you can and pray your running more then 1 updated antivirus program. Malwarebytes and superantispyware doesn't catch it as of 5 AM this morning. Norton 360 and Defender seemed to work ok together.

Re: TBT

long at 43.25. Now 43.10

Re: TBT

bsi87- Are you expecting the sell-off to reverse, or for bonds to sell off along with the market?

FAZ

taking a little off at 22.26 that i bought at 22.20. whopping gain there!

Hand sitting, day 2

Interesting 2nd.....sidelines, hand sitting, the proprietary karmic indicator is edgy when we get sideways.

My approach is to let the big $$$ shoot this out and see what's left when the smoke clears. Maybe we get a better entry LT.

I'd like a test of 666 with some fear, but we may do the same thing in the roundabout, beat around the bush, least obvious method the market chooses.

Re: TBT

2nd
not seating out
will be in and out of FAZ

Re: Hand sitting, day 2

"My approach is to let the big $$$ shoot this out and see what's left when the smoke clears."

Craig- That's a good philosophy. I picture you in the easy chair yesterday sipping java while the rest of got tossed in the eddies. I was working too hard. You played it smart.

Re: Hand sitting, day 2

And then there's Vinod, back out in the water ;)

Re: TBT

I expect yields to increase.

Re: spectator sport

2nd- Nothing cooking on this side of the bay either. I've got SPY @ 74.00, but that's just splitting hairs.
Might make a small play if something looks way overdone.

Re: FAZ

Sold the rest at 22.39

Re: Hand sitting, day 2

in FAZ 21.90

SRS

SRS was hit hard yesterday, but real estate is in a long term down trend. I'll be in this AM and out before close.

Who went short GM this

Who went short GM this morning? It came as close to being a "no-brainer" trade that I've seen so far.

Cara 100 Update

AMZN - Target Raised at Collins Stewart to $85. Core business continues to grow very fast. Buy rating.

Re: FAZ

TOF- Darn near the high so far, nicely done.

All Direxion ETFs

Performance of all Direxion ETFs since inception:

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_iV5yDiKxCdk/SdNtz5NFpBI/...

A casino offers better chances for gambling. Perhaps it's better to beat them at their own game and not bet against the house. The vast majority of people lose money, lots of money, on them.

Re: BE CAREFUL

I am no expert but I am told by my guy not to run two anti-virus programs on the same machine. They recognize each other as malware. FWIW.

Re: Hand sitting, day 2

I got tossed on the eddies early, figured I wasn't in-sync, and acted on past experience, which used to be to buy too early on dips and get whacked.

Patience, what a concept!

long lvs and auy

long lvs and auy

Vendor financing as a sign of the ultimate top

Quasi posted yesterday:
"Sort of reminds me of back in the dot com bubble when I worked for Nortel. If customers couldn't afford to buy your new product, which you needed to sell, then invent vendor financing. No problem we'll loan the money to virtually bankrupt companies to buy our products, so we don't go bankrupt. Then the downward cycle started and we know how it ended."

It just occurred to me today that the same thing happened on the macroeconomic scale when Japan and China financed (and still does) consumption in the US over the last couple of decades. Now USA is bankrupt.

This is why this will end up much WORSE than the Great Depression. Down the road several years (or decades) later, the equities will be worth small fraction (10% or less?) in REAL (and not nominal) value. I say real, because I don't know it this will be deflationary or inflationary (or both) process.

G-20 protests...

Man, the Europeans sure know how to throw a party...er, protest.

gm

1,000 at $1.66

LVS and AUY

Out of both a a profit...looking to get back in but it really makes no sense to post trades anymore theyre so lightening fast in a lot of cases.

Re: spectator sport

I also planned SPY 75-76 levels to cover short and possibly reenter long, but not sure anymore, as there is a significant possibility (50% or more?) that SPX 750 may not be a support as it wasn't on the way down in February and neither resistance on the way up in March.

Vinod- Re FAZ

Just my impression, but there seems to be some (unexpectedly) strong buying in financials right now? Be careful.

Re: Vinod- Re FAZ

2nd
yes i got stop out again at 21.80
will wait now. doing o.k in SRS

Re: Vinod- Re FAZ

Shoot, it's already below where I sold it yesterday. GS, MS smartly higher.

Re: BE CAREFUL

The key is to use a GOOD anti virus. Avast guaranteed last night full protection against the 4/1 worm (home PCs) and my work PC have Norton (not my choice) and so far so good. Many off brand antivirus downloaded free are actually malware themselves.

fas/faz

both slightly up, very interesting

Re: BE CAREFUL

Avast rocks

Re: BE CAREFUL

I am no expert but I am told by my guy not to run two anti-virus programs on the same machine.

Yep, bad idea. Anti-virus programs are also big resource hogs, so also you double-down on your pain if you try to run more than one. Get ONE well-known program and keep it up-to-date.

Re: BE CAREFUL

"If your browser redirects to a link that looks like a video display of a google search, don't click the play arrow displayed in the middle of the screen."

I set Firefox not to allow redirect after our initial attack, it works well but Twiggs' site won't load for some reason...

long eslr

long eslr

oil divergence

Nice divergence between price of oil and oil companies. APA is +0.71, with oil down -$1.60.

FAS ball: Unexpected buying is the kind I trust most

It usually signals the beginning of significant counter-trend action. JMO. Be careful with FAZ.

Vinod- I would think about closing shorts/long ERX 23.20

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This AM's trades so far

Order Date Status Attempt Action
Buy 50 shares IBB at 65 Limit GTC 03/26/09 Filled

04/01/09 09:30 Filled 50 at 65

Buy 100 shares TBT at 43 Limit GTC 03/27/09 Filled

04/01/09 09:30 Filled 100 at 43

Sell 1,000 shares UXG at 2.25 Limit GTC 03/31/09 Open Cancel

Sell 200 shares TZA at 51 Stop Loss GTC 04/01/09 Verified Canceled

Sell 200 shares TZA at 54 Stop Loss Day 04/01/09 Filled

04/01/09 09:35 Filled 200 at 54.0099

Buy 150 shares FAZ at Market Day 04/01/09 Filled

04/01/09 10:03 Filled 150 at 20.825

C up 7.5%/BAC up 5%...not the time to be short, IMO

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time to catch the long wave

Just waiting for a better entry.

Re: Vinod- I would think about closing shorts/long ERX 23.20

2nd
i don't have ERX
also break even in SRS also
got to find something else?

Re: TBT

Short side of issue on auction day has been a consistent winner.

Virus/Bot protection

So far so good with McAfee and SpyBot search and Destroy.
Update regularly and scan at least once a week. Both run in the background scanning real time.

gold and auction day

Hmm perhaps that's why gold got hit this morning. Bid up $15 before the open, and slammed right after.

holding ERX/TNA/FAS/TYH

Sorry. Unable to post and stay upright on the waves at the same time.

Live Video of Protests at G20

Photos (converging on London's financial district)
http://tinyurl.com/dl3cc4

Live Video feed
http://tinyurl.com/dz6rgk

EDIT: it is turning violent. a group in the crowd just smashed through the RBC bank lobby window.

DUG

buy limit 25.50 which is yesterday's 3PM close + 5% of the 10 day ATR.

do your own homework.

Mark to Market

Is the current rally in the financials warranted? I mean, we don't really know what the changes to MTM will be and how they will impact these companies, do we? In fact, we don't even know if they will remove MTM...I believe they (FASB) said they will look into altering the rules...

SPY

TA guys- Could/what, would it take for SPY 80.00 to become support.

TD webroker and telephone order support down

"Due to high call volume we are unable to take you call at this time. Please try again within one hour." Repeat, rinse, ....@#$%^&*()
S

Re: Live Video of Protests at G20

Typo. RBS bank lobby. i think they are trying to break in to pitch tents and stay there.

Celg

Anybody trying to catch that knife?
I bought it indirectly today through IBB.

Re: TD webroker and telephone order support down

Ditto, I can't even get a quote.

Re: TD webroker and telephone order support down

No problems w/ Interactive Brokers.

finished with the morning swim ;)

Mark- You pose a good question. We may not get down to our targets on SPY.

GS

intraday head and shoulders? granted, i don't know much about TA.

Re: TD webroker and telephone order support down

This is now the 3rd "glitch" since Jan 1. Just phoned my personal banker. "Try the 800 number as they assume it's long distance and will try to answer it quicker"...."They usually get these things sorted out pretty fast". Right. 800 # same message. Great service when I'm trying to sell (at a profit even) as well as a couple of buys. Of course there's no recourse...
S

Re: Mark to Market

Buy the runor sell the news.

Re: SPY

50 DEMA is 79.47. BUT the 200 DEMA is overhead at 96.21 along with a descending trendline resistance. AND the descending trendline support is around 65 roughly.

The key is to go back one timeframe so if you trade in days (not daily), look at weeks to get a better sense.

Even tho' we've seen rallies, LT MA's and trendlines are still in downtrends. Hence my point, "Nuthin's changed."

Re: SPY

bsi87- OK, thanks.

Re: TD webroker and telephone order support down

I use IB and Questrade. With Questrade it was 45 minutes after market open when it finally started working so obviously there were major problems with Canadian brokers this morning.

Re: Mark to Market

From Bloomberg two days ago:

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Four days after U.S. lawmakers berated Financial Accounting Standards Board Chairman Robert Herz and threatened to take rulemaking out of his hands, FASB proposed an overhaul of fair-value accounting that may improve profits at banks such as Citigroup Inc. by more than 20 percent.

The changes proposed on March 16 to fair-value, also known as mark-to-market accounting, would allow companies to use “significant judgment” in valuing assets and reduce the amount of writedowns they must take on so-called impaired investments, including mortgage-backed securities. A final vote on the resolutions, which would apply to first-quarter financial statements, is scheduled for April 2.

By letting banks use internal models instead of market prices and allowing them to take into account the cash flow of securities, FASB’s change could boost bank industry earnings by 20 percent, Willens said. Companies weighed down by mortgage- backed securities, such as New York-based Citigroup, could cut their losses by 50 percent to 70 percent, said Richard Dietrich, an accounting professor at Ohio State University in Columbus.

While helping lenders report higher earnings, FASB’s changes may hurt Treasury Secretary Timothy Geithner’s plan to remove distressed assets from bank balance sheets, Dietrich said. Allowing companies to hold on to assets without writing them down could discourage them from selling the securities, which would work against Treasury’s objective to resuscitate markets, he said.

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XLF just can't break the wall at $9.15 in the last few days, it may today. But if it can't before the MTM announcement, there could be a selloff unless something better than expected happens. That scenario is unlikely imo.

NOT a trading advice.

Gut Instinct

Why is my gut instinct telling me to short/fade this rally when my intuition says to buy the dips?

If MTM is relaxed, then what happens to the PPIP? Won't banks be less willing to sell if they don't need to mark to market? Then banks wouldn't be willing to lend because their balance sheets are chock full of "assets".

On another note, check out the recent drops in the Baltic Dry Index:
http://bitcast-a.v1.sjc1.bitgravity.com/minyanvill...

Check your mail 2nd....

you have mail

Re: Gut Instinct

RE:>On another note, check out the recent drops in the Baltic Dry Index:

checked in on base metals. Aluminium has dropped in a similar manner. Copper's cresting, but has support under it for the moment.

Worsening slump in industrials?

Re: Gut Instinct

"Why is my gut instinct telling me to short/fade this rally when my intuition says to buy the dips?"

Try more fiber.

This is trading advice.

BDI - Maybe shipping companies are dropping their prices to get things moving?

Great Charts Photogray

Nice real time and easily discernible information.

Especially like the volume indicator. Very clear and easy to read.

edit: referring to bestfreecharts.com

FAZ - looking to load up

If it dips below 19.00

On-Star

Last night I took my Buick for a spin over to stock up on some supplies and while loading the trunk noticed a rear tire was flat. Back inside the car, I pressed the On-Star button and to my surprise, Joe Biden responded!

Re: Gut Instinct

"Why is my gut instinct telling me to short/fade this rally when my intuition says to buy the dips?"

tof- Interesting how you differentiate between gut instinct and intuition. I would go with your intuition. Why? Gut instincts are tinged with emotion. Intuition is informed with a higher level of thought.

Re: Check your mail 2nd....

responded with my own attachment

Lack of volume on this rally

I dont expect this to last too much longer.

just my opinion.

Re: SPY

bsi87,

excuse my lack of TA skill, but when what would an uptrend look like?

Real time charts at bestfreecharts.com

Repeat comment from late last night. I checked out www.bestfreecharts.com after Alphatrends mentioned them in a video about vwap indicator. I'm just a TA wannabe but I now have my holdings in a folder and am inputing a watchlist. From discussion here I know I need to see 15 minute and 5 minute charts with a little more ease than IB does it, no complaints about IB though. I love them and am sure I am only scratching the surface there also.
Re: Gut feeling, I was already short(with faz, now underwater) and still feel short is the place to be(just not financials) so I started a small position in SRS
fd, long GMO, WHY,HGU,KRI,LYM...yes overweight in several respects! LOL
peace from Whidbey

Thanks 2nd.

Thanks 2nd, that's what I thought. I still need a better entry!

spy

When you pull back in timeframe you see the trend. Try SPY for 6 mos or more, 12 mos will surely show it.
For that to change we need to break above the resistance laid down since October.

I think the daily says the same more or less.

Re: FAZ - looking to load up

Oh well, maybe next time. Not nimble enough to play this intraday with a full time job so I look for entry points I can withstand a little pain on.

Re: Gut Instinct

2nd - I think I'm going to go with my gut, which as you say is the same as my intuition. Relaxation of MTM is my reason for buying, but this will compete directly with the banks willingness to sell assets under PPIP.

There will be beneficiaries of the relaxation of MTM...i.e., those institutions that aren't banks (and therefore aren't impacted by PPIP). I think MBIA may fall into this category. But those institutions holding bad assets that need to sell will simply continue to hold on to them as a result of easier MTM rules. That means bad assets stay on the banks' books, which means less lending gets out into the economy, which means this rally may be topping out short term...

TNA- catching another wave @ 18.04

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CDE long breakout over a

CDE long breakout over a buck

We’re Not the Boss of A.I.G.-Icahn's take

Love him or hate him, he makes good points:
http://tinyurl.com/cbadpq

Re: TNA- catching another wave @ 18.04/wipe-out @ 17.95

back to the beach

YHOO

Very interesting option trade going on in YHOO today for May 16.00 Calls @.37.
Open interest is 1,028... but traded so far today is 4,303 at midday with yhoo trading near 12.90.
This tells me there are people with connections getting a jump start on some good news that only the well connected are privy too.
The only news I have seen today is the launch of Yahoo Mobile internet access for the ipod today along with Yahoo Messenger app for the iPhone. This news alone isn't what is driving the 16.00 call option trade today.
It's not rocket science. HA

Re: TNA- catching another wave @ 18.04/wipe-out @ 17.95

2nd
I want Buddha to smile toward me
Brought –OEWPL at 4.90 and looking good

Re: Gut Instinct

TOF,
The scenerio you put forth is logical, but when does the price of a stock follow logic. The relaxation of MTM could cause a huge rally in financials. It could cause a short term headfake and a sell the news type scenerio.It could be completely ignored.(allready in the stock) I really don't think any financials are being traded on fundementals right now. It is all sentiment.

I think hb&b are driving prices up on low vol and setting shorts

just opinion, looking at individual stock volumes today vs avg volumes.

Check out c, bac, gs, jpm, goog, ibm, amzn, gg, su. etc. you can go on and on.

CDE BAby

CDE BAby

Re: CDE BAby

shark_attack
Digging gold in a mine or what?

M2M

Buy the rumor sell the news? Has the news been released, or where are we in this cycle? Maybe TA is best angle from here as everything else seems convoluted... the stars are out of alignment. Climbing the wall of worry? Not according to some of my indicators (oil). SPY is in neutral.

Maybe this is all just noise waiting for negative feedback (G20). Those ADT job loss numbers being preliminary, I'll wait for official numbers...

Re: BE CAREFUL

Indeeed, we've used AVAST for over five years now with enormous success. The program plays well with every type of software we've added which is more than I can say for the costly Norton or McAfee products.

Re: I think hb&b are driving prices up on low vol/what if

they're driving prices up because they're buying?

NYUGrad- To be honest, I think the head fake, if there is one, is setting up a move in the opposite direction; ie, it sparks a huge rally in both financials and the broad market. That's what my instincts say.

Re: I think hb&b are driving prices up on low vol/what if

I would love a rally. i just dont see one yet. the lack of volume is telling me so.

Re: I think hb&b are driving prices up on low vol/what if

Fair enough. Sometimes the volume kicks in only when the rally is well on its way, in which case no one (unwilling to chase) is able to board.

Re: I think hb&b are driving prices up on low vol/what if

looks like we are in the bull mood for the rest of the week :)

AA to ZZ

AA to ZZ are up, What's not to like, why shouldn't we rally?

Re: AA to ZZ

Because everyone now thinks we will?

Re: I think hb&b are driving prices up on low vol/what if

yeh. i need to jump out of my positions and go the other way.

Re: AA to ZZ

Ha! Craig shoves a stick in our spokes, bringing us back to reality! :)

Re: AA to ZZ

Craig- The only people I know of with that outlook seem to have arrived at it within the last few posts. It's still early.

ERX

This is the kind of action I like: USO down 3.3%, ERX up 7.5%. As I said yesterday: "laggards one day, leaders the next day." ERX is not an absolute leader today but a leader relative to its fundamental -- oil price. Tomorrow, the oil price may very well rebound and push ERX even higher, even if the general market will be down.

MTM to goose bank prices

Obviously that would tank FAZ. but would it increase VIX which, if I understand (HaH, lol) FAZ would increase its daily range? Help me here

MTM Meeting tomorrow at 8am

For investors' sake, I really hope they don't change this. Allowing banks to mark these assets at whatever they believe they're worth only adds more opaqueness to the marketplace.

"General Motors (GM 1.83,

"General Motors (GM 1.83, -0.11) reported a 42.5% drop in March sales, which was better than the expected drop of 45.8%, CNBC reports. Earlier today, Ford (F 2.62, -0.38) reported March U.S. sales fell 40.9%, versus the expected decline of 45%."

40% down sales and market is up. Seems like we are ignoring the bad news. :)

FD: Long 55%, Cash 40%, 5% short on SPY puts.

Re: YHOO

bigwad1,

What do you use to monitor options trades?

VR

sorry guys!

Sorry guys, I didn't mean to harsh your gig.

We could rally to DJIA 7930 without too much resistance, but from there is a test. Time, in a trading sense, will tell.

Anyone else having a hard time with Scottrade charts? I had my SPY chart up ($SPY) and now it says it's a bad symbol.

Uh oh...maybe it's a sign?

Re: MTM Meeting tomorrow at 8am

If anyone wants to get in touch with FASB members to show your displeasure with the relaxation of mark to market rules, which will only add opacity to our markets, you can reach them here:

http://www.fasb.org/talk/emailadd.shtml

The more I think about this rule change, the more it bothers me. This is not what we need right now...changing accounting rules to help out the banks (which not only screwed the whole world up, but are already getting our money through taxpayer assisted bailouts) will only inspire less confidence from the rest of the world.

Re: sorry guys!

spy chart seems ok on scottrade.

FD: own Apr 90 puts on SPY.

Re: sorry guys!/change in the weather

Here you go, Craig. The last time I posted this one was 2007, when we were about to go down. This time, I think we're about to go higher.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G9bt3bmnsPY

Re: MTM Meeting tomorrow at 8am

"For investors' sake, I really hope they don't change this. Allowing banks to mark these assets at whatever they believe they're worth only adds more opaqueness to the marketplace."

The problem I see with M2M is it requires pricing anomalies be accounted, which contradicts 100:1 or 1000:1 leveraging, and even a reserve banking scheme in a short term frame. This doesn't seem quite kosher when most of these are much longer term than this recession, knocks the legs out from under the global economy, and so heavily discounts most life-long savings. For the sake of being technically correct? So what are these assets anyway, homes? Sure, we would rather live out our lives in tents or caves all of a sudden?

Land isn't an easy thing to come by, I've worked all my life earning these and I'm pretty sure my home will bring more in a few years than last year due to supply and demand fundamentals alone. The Earth still spins, right? They can play all the games they like, I know value when I see it.

Re: YHOO

I use etrade options chains.
You can see real time calls puts greeks straddles collars marriedputs strangles etc.
You will have to have an active account.

Re: YHOO

can you automatically screen for unusual activity?

C- adding @ 2.67

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Re: MTM Meeting tomorrow at 8am

Rather than change mark to market, why not create a liquid market for these assets? Do you really think a bank is going to value an asset at what the true value is? Why not establish a liquid exchange to trade CDS contracts and put in collateral requirements for anyone buying these assets?

MTM is not the problem. It is the regulatory framework that these markets trade in that is the problem.

making a foray into MBI @ 4.82

20% of allocation

BACK IN HAWAII AND SLR

ALOHA!!

Well, after some 18 hours from Nassau to Honolulu we are back in HAWAII ... At the infamous ILIKAI, from the Hawaii 5-0 days and Jack Lord! First time staying here and WOW ... what a deal for $138(Kamaaina rate)per night! Our room has both a bathtub and a shower, no bidet! HA!!

Thanks again Bill for the great time in Nassau! Freeport next year ...

SLR
While Chris(AussieOnTop)and I filled in for Tony Garson at CTAB2009 we introduced ASX listed resource stocks. My two "producer picks" were Straits Resources(SRL:ASX) and Silver Lake(SLR:ASX). Not more than a few days later SLR comes in with this yesterday, which moved their share price 12%+. One of my main concerns was their costs to produce, which according to this release has those costs dropping. Also of note are the grades these guys are mining and how that shapes up compared to other Aussies, all the while sitting on such high grades on properties with 3% drill holes over 100m, severely under-explored.

Link: http://www.asx.com.au/asxpdf/20090401/pdf/31gwj4dg...

Above link for Q1/2009 data ...

By the way ... Silver Lake has no silver. It is a pure gold play. In fact they just poured a one metric ton gold bar!

I was asked at CTAB2009 how I trade the ASX? On IB ...

Off to breakfast with my wonderful wife ... TA!

I believe Chris is on an Airbus somewhere near New Zealand right now! We said goodbye to Davidfairtex at the Miami airport where he is off to LAX and then on to Thailand. And NYUGrad and some of the gang at the Nassau airport yesterday! I think most of the rest, like Vad amd Pascal, will be flying out of Nassau today.

Great conference Bill ...

M2M

Perhaps another equally or more important concern would be that FASB is an independent private sector organization. So why should Congressional chairman Kanjorski have oversight when it's the job of the SEC to work with FASB in determining the rules? So some big investment banks start monkeying around levering up the planet with no regulation whatsoever while funneling cash into elected official's pockets and we trust any of this? I don't buy any of it, we don't know 1/10th of what's going on and M2M won't change anything one way or another because it's all under control of you know who. This is all a show for our "benefit".

These guys are all screwed up when it comes to mixing up a cocktail of unethically conflicted interests.... Just pitiful, I don't believe a word of this nonsense anymore.

Re: MTM Meeting tomorrow at 8am

"MTM is not the problem. It is the regulatory framework that these markets trade in that is the problem."

Oh, you just gave the executive summary all in one sentence! Then there's the question of why this, why now, and who's really behind it all? Who, what, when, why, where and how....

Obama approval

Does not actually appear that the majority of Americans are disenchanted with his performance - Wall Street is still seen as the villain, according to the recent Washington Post/ABC News Poll.

http://tinyurl.com/cqy8gv

Re: BACK IN HAWAII AND SLR

Enjoy your breakfast kaimu! That's a nice sized gold bar.

Re: M2M

Like you chickenpookie, I don't believe a word either. They are so conflicted so many ways they no longer have any clue of which way is up. Windbags trying to get some face time that's all.
S

Insiders Game

These starting/ending selloff's and day rallys have the feel of insiders or pools milking some profits before a significant move.

FAZ

In Faz this am 19.48 out a few moments ago @ 21.17.
Thanks to all here pointing out the MTM rule change vote.
As Mr. Cara says risk management...
whichever way the MTM vote goes tomorrow. I will be on the sidelines.
also TA advice here helps me to trade better.
Bear E

APOL $65 looks like squeeze into close very

possible, selling way overdone

Re: Obama approval

"Wall Street is still seen as the villain, according to the recent Washington Post/ABC News Poll."

Probably just because the public isn't fully educated on the erotic symbiotic relationship between HB&B and the beltway criminals.

GURU Meditation

I just got a guru meditation error from the site, isn't that an old Amiga term?

Re: YHOO

No, you just bring up the month or months of any particular option/options.
You can see any option information you are looking for, but no alerts that I know of.

Re: GURU Meditation

Maybe Casey sent you that! lol

Shorts being taken to the woodshed

FAZ,skf,even srs ouch

Re: Obama approval

"Does not actually appear that the majority of Americans are disenchanted with his performance - Wall Street is still seen as the villain, according to the recent Washington Post/ABC News Poll."

Not a bit surprised here.

Obama is a master at playing the media. In our paper this AM he is quoted as saying all nations need to do what the US is doing for this crisis to be solved quickly. If we don't act in unison it will get a lot worse.

He knows full well the Europeans have indicated they will not go along.

When they don't and it gets even worse — it will be because THEY didn't do what he advised.

The media will cover his butt for him by quoting him — often.

Most people don't know there is a difference between the US deficit and the US debt. He says he will halve the deficit by 2013 (into his second term) but anyone who knows the difference can imagine what the debt will look like.

Estimates see it quintupled in ten years under his record budget.

Back into the buy-and-hold/an informed gamble on higher prices

Mark- I have to go with my instincts here. If it's wrong, it's wrong. FIDSX/FSPTX/FSENX in equal allotments.

Re: M2M

Does anyone have any idea when any changes will be announced? Seems like this meeting could take a few days....
Keith

AIG Scam

I've been gone a few days so don't know if anyone posted this:

Big Banks' Recent Profitability Due To AIG Scam?
http://tinyurl.com/cfunfv

It makes for great reading (if it's accurate).

Campaign Contributors

Top Contributors
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FMR Corp $16,500
Federated Investors Inc $16,000
Ospraie Management $15,900
ACA International $15,000
Goldman Sachs $14,600
Liberty Mutual Insurance $14,500
Bear Stearns $14,050
Cohen & Co $14,000
LTS Corp $13,800
American International Group $13,000
ACE Ltd $12,500
Fidelity National Financial $12,500
GUS plc $12,500
Wells Fargo $12,300
Credit Union National Assn $11,650
American Council of Life Insurers $11,499
AFLAC Inc $11,000
JPMorgan Chase & Co $11,000
National Assn of Realtors $11,000

Re: Back into the buy-and-hold/an informed gamble on higher ...

2nd.
Right or wrong certainly admire the conviction and the quick trigger.
Good luck,
Bob

FAZ

Well, I wanted FAZ at 19 but pretty darned sure I don't want to hold it over night, no matter what the MTM mtg decides, there's just no telling how it'll shake out.

Obama media Master?

GRYM,
With all due respect, I wish to disagree with you about Obama being a master playing the Media. You see thru him. I do not believe him. The emperor has no clothes! I hold the term master to someone that has a lot of experience at something and does it with ease and fluidity. Alas today is April fools Day!
Bear E

Re: Back into the buy-and-hold/an informed gamble on higher ...

and I'm not as talented as 2nd, so maybe that's why I lack the conviction part? :-)

Re: Back into the buy-and-hold/an informed gamble on higher ...

2nd- That's all I have, and the ability to listen carefully. Thanks for the heads up. While you were doing the cha-cha with the 3Xers, I bought big blocks of XLI and XLB before I left. Played TNA at the close..In 17.69/out 18.42.
Got to run.

Re: M2M

"Does anyone have any idea when any changes will be announced? "

FASB was assigned the task of producing a proposal (my words) by 4/2. So let's see if they meet the expectations of congress or if they are cast aside in favor of a congressionally sanctioned CEO.

Re: Back into the buy-and-hold/an informed gamble on higher ...

Thanks, Bob.

Cornerstone- I wouldn't say that. You're not a gambler. I am ;)

Re: Back into the buy-and-hold/an informed gamble on higher ...

"You're not a gambler. I am ;)"

That's it, you're Kenny from now on! ;)

Re: BACK IN HAWAII AND SLR

kaimu,

Thank you so much for your contribution and your daily commitment. This community is quite fortunate to have you.

In a few days, after everyone is home safe and sound from The Bahamas, and I have recovered, I will prepare post-closing notes and attach them with photos and the results of our survey.

In planning this conference, I said to Jim Watt, the man who organized it, that people would come from all over the world and arrive with high expectations, but they must go home with those expectations exceeded and with memories of a lifetime. Judging from the emotions expressed at the Green Parrot on Monday evening, I can say this conference was a great success.

I just wish that parrot hadn't eaten my eyeglasses!

Nassau Conference

We indeed had a great conference in Nassau... And fun time too.
The organisation was perfect. It took one full year for Jim and Bill.
Thank you again!!!

I am happy that I met so many of you.
I am still at the Hilton hotel in Nassau. Will be leaving Nassau in a couple of hours. Will be heading to the airport soon.

Looking forward to the pictures.

Pascal (from Belgium)

More Info on MTM

I found out a little more info on the meeting taking place tomorrow to discuss mark to market accounting.

Primarily, they will be discussing the possibility of issuing two sets of income statements:

(1) a standard income statement that includes gains/losses based on assets valued according to an estimated recovery value, which can be derived by taking into account whether or not those assets have losses on them and how long they have been in a loss position (e.g., a mortgage that is not being paid off for x amount of months), as well as what type of recovery value can be estimated.

(2) a comprehensive income statement that incorporates true mark to market values and not mark to estimated recovery value. This will be no different than the current standards.

From a regulatory standpoint, the tangible common equity that regulators require banks to hold will be based on financial statements in (1) above should these proposals pass. Investors will still be able to see how crappy the assets are when they are marked to the market and compare those to the assessed values by the banks. They will be able to analyze the difference between the realistic income statement and the fantasy income statement.

Essentially regulators are relaxing their standards so they can keep banks in business longer because they dropped the ball on regulating them. They will use the standard financial statements (and not the comprehensive financial statement) when determining if banks meet their required reserve ratios/tangible comment equity requirements.

Lost in Lunacy

The agenda underlying the forces we see at play today in our lives and our markets continues to be the unification of all nation states under a centralized controlling entity tasked with oversight and control of the world economy and planetary resources. The method by which this agenda has been executed consists of absolute control of the nation-state banking systems with the underlying goal of dismantling nationalism where-ever it may be found so that the planet's populace may be systematically prepared... mentally, economically, and culturally, to receive the modified yoke of servitude to an all-powerful global entity. This agenda has been meticulously documented over the generations by a marginalized, denigrated, and yet highly motivated subset of researchers and journalists. The fringe conspiracy-proclamants can now, without regret and in full confidence of the accuracy and prescience of their works, say in a united voice "We told you so!"

While I have always maintained that globalization is not necessarily a bad idea, those currently pushing this agenda do not have anyone but themselves in mind in its pursuit. These same forces intend to take all positions of authority for themselves and crush any opposition to this authority under the auspices of what is in the best interests of those they proclaim to represent. Moreover,the next leg of their social agenda, according to these same tinfoil-hat-wearing nut-jobs who have so fervently and accurately documented the foundations of our current predicament, includes a major push for the depopulation of the planet. Let us all join in a silent prayer that this foolishness is exactly that.... foolishness... and that these things are never permitted to come to such an end.

The globalists are moving while the iron is hot, and their battle cry will be unification under the dubious claims of countermanding global terroism and global warming while beneficently saving the same world economies that they themselves so meticulously and premeditatively destroyed.... Will the idiocy never end?

In the meantime, do not allow yourselves to be deluded for one instance that such issues are not currently on the table behind the scenes. I am certain our president is very much aware of these things and I do believe he is working, in conjunction with many others around the planet, to head off such foolishness. Time will tell to what degree he will succeed.

Tune in for the next episode of.... "lost in lunacy....."

http://tinyurl.com/cq6cwm

Disclaimer... written with only a modicum of sarcasm...

Re: Nassau Conference

Pascal, I really enjoyed your presentation.

CBOT

CBOT traders indicted for fraud

April 1, 2009(Crain’s) — Two veteran Chicago Board of Trade floor traders were indicted for allegedly cheating customers out of $2 million.

http://www.chicagobusiness.com/cgi-bin/news.pl?id=...

G20 signs that say "Capitalism Has Failed"

I've seen many media websites show the picture of protestors in London behind a banner saying, "Capitalism Has Failed". I would like to know what this community thinks of this assertion.

I think we've had too much dishonest capitalism & dishonest government. In the U.S., we're no longer a nation of laws and blind justice. It's increasingly becoming a matter of who you are and who you know. That sounds too much like Russia or China to me. Enemies of the state - beware!

Re: Capitalism has failed

bluesky,
I think the banners should read "governments have failed thier countries"
Bear E

Re: Capitalism has failed

capitalism is not perfect but it is the most successful social and economic system that is know throughout history. It rewards the smartest and quickest and provides opportunities to work your way out of poverty. It is a brutal system for the weak however and they rely on charity. But even charity does not work if everyone is poor.

hahaha - Great South Park Episode

Re: Capitalism has failed

yes vinod, but wasn't all or most of the progress made in recent years only possible because if it was financed out of phony money, money that did not exist? Wasn't it all a giant Ponzi scheme?

If the price of the "success" will eventually be paid by our children and grandchildren, was this successful? I don't know the answer, but a lot of things were not real.

BTW, was GM at one point the biggest company on Earth? (!)

Re: hahaha - Great South Park Episode

"Your Margaritaville is worth $90 trillion"...that's hilarious, teamonfuego :)

Re: Capitalism has failed

Sio2, I think capitalism is better than the other evils, atleast it promotes individuals a candy to succeed, which in turn creates the thought process, effort etc etc for innovation & efficiency (do not mean financial innovation!!!). Who knows, maybe we are already drawing from our future generations in terms of life sustaining natural resources etc.

RE: Capitalism has failed

We haven't been capitalists for some time! Capitalists require capital.
Have you noticed we are borrowing at a record clip while printing at a record clip? No capitalism in sight! Ironically it's the communists that have capital, go figure. Yes, it's the Chinese who will have to teach us about capitalism.

We have a debtism. I would call it Debtocracy, but we don't have anything resembling a 'cracy', not even the demo model.

Re: hahaha - Great South Park Episode

"we can put that check in a money market mutual fund that will reinvest the earnings into foreign currency accounts with compounding interest and...its gone..."

Re: Capitalism has failed

M3 - a distant memory? I remember a Russian friend, who when presenting an argument would often preface his remark with " Simple example,........". The absence of M3 is a "simple example" of how HB&B worked it's powers upon the administration of U.S. government/finance to "disappear" this tool of measurement several months ago. Yes, American-style capitalism has failed and the leadership role and supremacy of the USA in global economics is finished.

Re: Obama media Master?

Bear E,

Well, I've watched him for years now. Voted for him once (actually voted against the other guy — I've done a lot of that) but never again.

He did manage to get elected, seems to still have the media on his side, so even if an increasing number come over to our way of seeing him, I expect he will manage to keep a significant poll number going for a while.

I have some hope he will not make it for a second term — the majority of Americans can't be fooled for that long. Tell me they can't!

Re: GURU Meditation

yep, the best computer ever made was the Amiga, and when you got an error , it would send you a guru meditation error.

Its amazing since you still find old amigas plugging away after 15 years in unexpected corners of the world

Futures

OK, time for me to look stupid....again. When looking at the futures on Blommberg, it shows DOW 7720 +2. DOW close was 7761. What gives? My CME quotes are not like this. TIA

Re: GURU Meditation

heh, I just use an old fashion zen stick

faster and more effective

m2m: Non-event?

http://tinyurl.com/c23529

From the perspective of market bulls, the best (positive) reaction would be the non-event. A sharp sell-off would, of course, be a bad thing. A sharp rally, on the other hand, would be sold immediately. A mild sell-off/rally would clear the anxiety surrounding the 'event,' and set up the potential for a delayed (and more sustainable) rally next week.

Re: BACK IN HAWAII AND SLR

Bill and all of the CTAB team - to say that I was tremendously impressed by your conference is merely understating the obvious. I knew that I was in for the experience of a lifetime when I departed 5 short days ago for Nassau but to actually meet and be educated by the world class global talent you secured for us was outstanding. I highly recommend that fellow Cara Community members make the next one a top priority. If you plan nothing else next year plan to attend; it is an event not to be missed. I cannot imagine how it could be any better than it was but if I know you Bill, you and your team will strive for MCI (my own acronym for measurable constant improvement). I am just reviewing my photos and my notes and want to express my sincere thanks once again to all of you - my expectations were greatly exceeded in every stretch of the imagination. Hopefully you got your specs replaced - I would be positively lost without mine!!

Re: Futures

Mark- You're probably looking at Jun09 futures?

7727 7782 7705 7754 +36
(ie, if 7754 is +36, then the previous close must have been 7718)

http://tinyurl.com/dz4jsf

Re: SPY

bsi87- Just got back, thanks for your take.

The Big Takeover

Here's a great article in Rolling Stone that does a pretty good job delineating how we got to where we are.

We just have to hope tons of 20 somethings read it.

There is some foul language but not too much.

http://tinyurl.com/d7hefo

Rob.

Re: The Big Takeover

Check out "The Dirty Dozen." Hilarious.

Re: Futures

Sorry Man, this is what I'm looking @... http://tinyurl.com/4r2mq . Shows DOW +34 and still below today's close.

Re: Futures

Mark- Yes, those are Jun09 futures, which previously closed at 7718. In your view (21:31) trading at 7764, up 46, right? Note that June futures prices are not calculated on the basis of today's close. For your purposes, all that matters is the color (green or red), and the percentage change- those two indicators are the best markers of sentiment at any point in time.

Re: m2m: Non-event?

There needs to be a way to regulate when banks decide to use faith-based asset valuation. This is going to be another way for banks to “cook” their books and mislead investors. What next? I remember President Bush use lot of Faith base stuff?

Re: m2m: Non-event?

vinod- LOL. Actually, all of life is based on faith. Faith that the sun comes up each morning, that your diaphrahm contracts on auto-pilot, that drivers obey traffic regulations, that the laws of physics continue to hold, and that your perceptions/judgments of people/places/self are accurate.

loannetter- Using IRA funds to buy rental properties?

http://tinyurl.com/cj9mkf

I didn't know that. I think that would be a terrific idea for investors who prefer buying real estate at 50% off their peak values to buying paper assets.

Re: m2m: Non-event?

2nd
I like it. We should use Faith base analysis beside fundamental and technical,
That will create lot of new job for Faith base analyst?

Sealy

Anyone catch this, ZZ up 81%. Must be mattresses are worth more with all that money hidden in them.

Re: m2m: Non-event?

We can be the first ones in line for the job. I think we're both well-qualified, as we make faith-based judgments about stock prices every day ;)

Re: Sealy/Nikkei Hang Seng

LOL. Well, I'm going to catch some ZZs. See you in the morning.

Nikkei's retaken 8600, and the Hang Seng 14000. Let's see if they hold this time.

Re: Futures

Thanks 2nd- I thought they were trading for tomorrow, like oil, gold, etc. electronically. Damn, at least I hope I gave everyone a good laugh. I'm surprised I have ever made any money.

Now, I've got this fresh pack of cards here....

Re: Futures

Now if we get a no vote then I think we tank. It is in my opinion that the markets have already factored in this change. Everyone on TV (CNBC) assumes it's going to happen so it's more or less priced in. I think it's going to be a buy the rumor sell the news. The votes scheduled before or right after the opening bell. M2M will ease pressure on the banks, but not cure their assets. And you will see a sell-off soon.

Cara Conference

Nassau Conference #1 what a Blast!!!! and what a paradise destination to integrate with so many special SPECIAL people. To everyone out there you gotta mark the date for next year and do it! This is such an exceptional powerhouse team effort happening and such a unique opportunity to learn, meet, and empower yourself with the unique talents of the Caraista community.

Bill and Jim and the Cara team thank you for a SUPER conference and showing heart and soul in an indifferent world, and to all the participants, thank you for sharing.

Re: Sealy

Yes, that's known as the AA to ZZ slope indicator, which was very steep today.

Here are some calculations:

14000-8500=5500 then 5500/10=550; 550*5=2750; 2750+5000=7750

Re: Futures

2nd, I usually look up CNN money. Is this correct?

http://money.cnn.com/data/afterhours/index.html

Re: Sealy

CP- All right, I'll bite. That is either 1) a joke or 2) another thing I have no idea about.

Re: Sealy

The A to z indicator a play on words and a play at BS wall street indicators. CP you should patent the indicator now! CPS AA TO ZZs

MTM

if I were the head of the FASB i would offer to relax mark to market in exchange for moving all off balance sheet items onto the balance sheet.

Re: MTM

TOF- Serious question...What difference would that make then if they do relax M2M?
Nice work today on FAZ. I'm a little worried about the futures action. Aren't we all expecting this? Seems very similar to last nights/this mornings action.

CTAB Conference

Thanks to Bill, Jim and the speakers for a great conference! Bill and Jim really know how to throw a party! My kids want to come to Junkanoo during the holidays. Looking forward to next year in Freeport. Bill, thank you for the dining recommendation at the Poopdeck - the kids loved it and the fresh blackened snapper was outstanding.
Best,
Bruno

Re: Sealy

"That is either 1) a joke or 2) another thing I have no idea about."

It's neither a joke or something I know something about, I'm just playing with some numbers. Sorry if it's confusing, it confuses me as well... If only I were autistic?

Re: The Big Takeover

Excellent article, and the Dirty Dozen list is great. The more I understand this toxic mess, the more it sickens me. I have always tried to make ethical decisions when trading, choosing not to buy into armament industries, big tobacco, etc. Added to my list now are the big US financials - I just couldn't bring myself to buy AIG, C, GS etc without feeling I've been slimed.

Re: MTM

Mark - I think relaxation of MTM is a significant thing. The problem stems more from the opaqueness of the underlying assets that these banks hold. When the package up hundreds of mortgages from multiple tranches, investors don't really know what is included in those securities of mortgages. So they are unwilling to bid a decent price for it.

However, after reading about FAS 157 further and reading how the current rules are applied, I don't think banks are nearly as impacted by this as many people are lead to believe. I listened to Robert Hertz's speech to Committee on Financial Services back in mid March and he clearly stated how assets with little or no liquidity for the most part are not being marked to market. Typically those assets are held to maturity and any such asset does not use fair value accounting (MTM). Rather they use an estimated value based on estimated recovery rates and cash flow.

FASB gave additional guidance on how to account for assets trading in illiquid markets and I looked at JPM's 12/31/08 financials to see what that impact was on them and here is what I found:

"Determining the fair value of an asset when the market for that asset is not active In October 2008, the FASB issued FSP FAS 157-3, which clarifies the application of SFAS 157 in a market that is not active and provides an example to illustrate key considerations in determining the fair value of a financial instrument when the market for that financial asset is not active. The FSP was effective upon issuance, including prior periods for which financial statements have not been issued. The application of this FSP did not have an impact on the Firm’s Consolidated Balance Sheets or results of operations. "

I also found this relating to their valuation of CDS's:
"For certain derivative products, such as credit default swaps referenced to mortgage-backed securities, the value is based on the underlying mortgage risk. As these instruments are not actively quoted, the estimate of fair value considers the valuation of the underlying collateral (mortgage loans). Inputs to the valuation will include available information on similar underlying loans or securities in the cash market. The prepayments and loss assumptions on the underlying loans or securities are estimated using a combination of historical data, prices on market transactions, and other prepayment and default scenarios and analysis. Relevant observable market indices such as the ABX or CMBX, are considered, as well as any relevant transaction activity. "

Here is another on their commercial RE:

"Commercial mortgage loans – Fair value of commercial mortgage loans is estimated by projecting the expected cash flows and discounting those cash flows at a rate reflective of current market liquidity. To estimate the projected cash flows, consideration is given to both borrower-specific and other market factors including, but not limited to: the borrower’s debt-to-service coverage ratio; the type of commercial property (e.g., retail, office, lodging, multi-family, etc.); an estimate of the current loan-to-value ratio; and market-derived expectations for property price appreciation or depreciation in the respective geographic location. "

Re: MTM

So as you can see, a lot of the assets considered illiquid on JPM's balance sheet are really not written down to fair value. I'm still trying to nail down actual dollar amounts.

Re: BACK IN HAWAII AND SLR

Hey Kaimu you mentioned at one point that you were going to post your "buying gold from different places cost matrix" on the blog. Did you do that already and I just missed it or is it coming soon? :)

It was really fun meeting you - and all the other friends I met there too. Very worthwhile conference, both from a skill improvement standpoint as well as socially also. I can feel my discipline improving already...

Futures Trading

It almost seems like futures trading was leading the market. As if some major institution was holding down futures long enough to take the entire market down.

Asia Bulls running hard now

Re: MTM

"I think relaxation of MTM is a significant thing."

Hell yea it's significant! These institutions will be in a position to return the TARP money almost immediately if it goes through. Consider how FASB just got run over by congress on this, they want it bad. There'll be some huge write-up's from this and a moon shot in financial sector along with everything else. I just can't believe they'd drag their feet this long and put everyone through all this garbage. No bank can admit more than legal leverage limits, everything else is done behind closed doors out of sight and out of mind now officially sanctioned by the SEC, FDIC, Treasury, Fed, Congress, Chinese, etc and backed with taxpayer money.

Derivatives Market Size

http://www.creditwritedowns.com/2009/04/us-banks-d...

Over $200 Trillion now...here are the top 4, which make up 95% of the total:

JPM - $87 Trillion
BAC - $38 Trillion
Citi - $32 Trillion
GS - $30 Trillion

Re: Derivatives Market Size

82% of the derivatives market is interest derivatives though, which I understand are "safe".

Re: Derivatives Market Size

Safe only if you take risk out of the equation, right? We've seen some pretty dramatic interest rate changes...

And "only" 18% is still $36 Trillion...

Re: Derivatives Market Size

It looks like $131 Trillion is related to swaps, which consist of some $70+ Trillion of Credit Default Swaps (from what I recall) and the rest consisting of Interest Rate Swaps and Currency Swaps.

Re: BACK IN HAWAII AND SLR

Thanks for those tips Kaimu, RE Aussie producers. I'm happy to see they've still got your approval. I've noted them for PM US dollar diversification.

Le.s

Re: Back into the buy-and-hold/an informed gamble on higher ...

thanks for the calls you're making 2nd. It's good to have someone out on a limb and willing to say so.

Perhaps your limb turns out to be a lot sturdier than we thought.

Tis what makes listening to this group so interesting.

But it does bring into question the future of PM's if your going for a rally in other equities. I'm also assuming you see another leg down. Is this the case, or have you seen the bottom of the market?

LE.s

Si02 - taking Direxion for a ride

Si02, I'd appreciate if you could share your findings on how to safely take Direxion for a ride.

I've removed the CTAB conversation from the Skype list. I find the skype conversation rather intrusive. Bells and whistles sounding, along with the little beancounter that jumps up and down in the corner of the screen when a conversation requires my attention.

I must be getting old.

I'll most certainly be swing trading until I've finished this uni ticket. I don't have time to watch mr. market minute by minute. One of the reasons I've taken interest in your straddles.

Les.

Re: BACK IN HAWAII AND SLR

ALOHA !!

Yes, I will post all PPT slide info from CTAB 2009 Conference here but I need to wait until I get back home and have a decent computer again. This DELL laptop has been a pain this whole trip! I will post it this weekend.

CS

ALOHA !!

Anyone here been to the website CRIMINAL STATE by Jeff Gates?

This guy is connecting dots to the failed USSR here in the USA ...

Link: http://criminalstate.com/

"As in Russia, debate is being framed around "sanctity of contract" to insulate from a deceived public a vast transfer of wealth into a few hands. Summers cited that sanctity to insist that A.I.G.’s financial products unit be allowed to keep their half-billion dollars in taxpayer-paid bonuses. Obama initially opposed the bonuses while an incensed House approved legislation imposing a 90% tax. Chicagoan Obama has since backed down. That tax could have set a precedent for a bilked public to recover other stolen wealth.

The real issues remain obscured in the outrage over executive pay while the entire economy is being “reset” in plain sight. The policy changes proposed by Summers & Co. will create a uniquely American-style oligarchy. As taxpayers are stuck with the mortgage, our creative financial sophisticates will get the house. Is this the future that Americans want?

Another intelligence “dot disconnect” may be in the works. While Secretary of Homeland Security Janet Napolitano cites our porous borders as the primary danger, intelligence agencies confirm that our weakened economy poses the top threat to national security.

How was U.S. security improved by enabling A.I.G. to make massive payments to foreign banks? How is our national interest served by taking us deeper into debt in order to bail out complicit bankers while creating a Russian-style oligarchy? If those simple questions were asked, the answers would lead us to those who orchestrated this greatest heist in history. And to those now enacting policies destined to make a bad situation worse.END"

What about his book ... "Guilt by Association: How Deception and Self-Deceit Took America to War"?

I just found this info but I will review it ...

Also today I was thinking about criminal entities and their relationship to GOLD. It is logical to think that if China and other states are concerned over the US Dollar then why wouldn't the GLOBAL MAFIA want to own GOLD?

I have a very good friend who works for the ACC(Australian Criminal Commission). The ACC investigates global criminal entities like drug cartels and MAFIA and how they move money around the World. As a "Senior Financial Investigator" who has been doing this for some 30 years, he would know. I have never delved into this aspect of the criminal underworld before, but I am sure it exists. Who knows how widespread it is?

During the CTAB 2009 Conference I asked half jokingly if any of the audience was from the US Federal Reserve Bank? US Treasury? IRS? CIA? It didn't occur to me to ask if anyone was from the MAFIA ... HA!! Definitely the MAFIA has been involved with the US stock market so why not other markets? I doubt the MAFIA wants to be stuck with tons of US Pesos either! Hummmmmm???

Re: Back into the buy-and-hold/an informed gamble on higher ...

Les- If life is not for the occasional trip out along the limbs then what's it for?

Is there another leg down? No doubt. But I'm inclined to agree with Kass in that we've likely seen the bottom. Taking the indexes back to an inflation-adjusted 1966- I think that's enough.

I'm open to reading the writing on the wall each day, and whether it points up or down, I just try to follow directions.

What's the significance of the occasional LE.s?

Re: BACK IN HAWAII AND SLR

Anyone who attended Bahamas will attest to the immensely positive vibe which radiated through each and everyone of us; from CTAB members to guests. Definitely a lifetime memory! Thanks to all for the experience!!!

As for markets:
Short-term rally in play, possible morning back-fill due to over-night rally, support at 800 (S&P) --> resistance at 830 (S&P) Break-out would target upper channel 855-875.

Sergio

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confirmation rally?

We may have one by the end of this week.

the mutual fund handicap

Mark- I was able to re-enter FSPTX/FIDSX/FSENX at 1.7%, 3.8%, and 7.9% discounts to where I exited last Thursday. So with equal allotments in all three, it averages out to timing a 4.5% 'gain' on the buy-and-hold half (could have made it a 9% 'gain' buying back in at Monday's close). However, these funds only trade EOD, and they slap a 0.75% trading fee for positions held less than 30 days.

So basically, you're trying to make money by predicting closing prices (if you sense a trend change early in the morning, you're out of luck), and even when you time things right, they try to make you second-guess your exit with the trading fee.

It's never a fair game.

Re: Back into the buy-and-hold/an informed gamble on higher ...

So what's pulling this rally along? If not the average punter, because what I hear from others here is a lack of volume, then HB&B is a)putting their money to work, b)bidding up prices as a bull trap or c)this is the average punter putting their money to work and not HB&B.

Le.s (a high speed typo)

Re: Back into the buy-and-hold/an informed gamble on higher ...

High-speed Les- Is it possible we're going higher due to the principle of maximum frustration? Almost everyone is expecting a retest of the low. Ergo, we don't get one. Instead, the market forces those waiting in line to board at 7200 to catch a speed boat and climb aboard at 8200 before the ship hits the open seas.

Re: Back into the buy-and-hold/an informed gamble on higher ...

then its quite psychological. Just thinking of Tom Keene who interviewed a pair of professors who wrote "animal spirits". Something to do with macro-economic psychology.

You've piqued my interest in the book.

All good fun and games.

LEs

edit: I'm a day or two away from having IB at my fingertips. Is there an intermediate stop for that speed boat before hitting open seas? :)

Re: Back into the buy-and-hold/an informed gamble on higher ...

Les- There are endless stops. This game never ends.

Re: CS

Kaimu, you've just inadvertently made me think of the Mexican and Latin American drug cartels. Were there any cliché spectacled Latin Americans in the audience?

I know its for members only, but Stratfor.com take the drug cartel seriously. I'm wondering if they would answer an email from you about how the mexicans are laundering their US dollars. Military hardware and SUV's are plain to see. But I wonder what sort of sophisticated vehicle they have for making US dollars disappear? I imagine they have a bean counter or two that would be concerned with US dollar depreciation...

I've heard a story of former enforcement officials who've banded together to legalise the drug trade:

http://www.leap.cc/cms/index.php

Here's another link in the

Here's another link in the control over people.

It's a Cato institute interactive raid map of police activity in past years.

Imagine how much more intensive their activity is to become as people suffer the effects of unemployment, dislocation and poverty.

http://www.cato.org/raidmap/

Twiggs quote

From this AM's Twiggs report: "It is impossible to introduce into society a greater change and a greater evil than this: the conversion of the law into an instrument of plunder."

~ Frederic Bastiat

The map shows five incidents

The map shows five incidents in my state and I went back to 1997 and could only find examples of two incidents...which were pretty lightweight by civil rights preservation standards. More attributable to idiot neighbors than bad cops. That's just my state though. If I have to go back over ten years then it isn't current enough to freak me out.

Cara 100 Ratings Changes

Good morning.

Downgrades:

AMZN - To Equal Weight @ Barclays
BDK - To Underperform @ Credit Suisse. Price Target Lowered from $32 to $27.

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DOW - Price Target Lowered from $24 to $12 @ Credit Suisse. Neutral Rating.

Re: G20 signs that say "Capitalism Has Failed"

Bill's Commentary today is very disturbing to me because he is right on the mark.

As is Bluesky…

"I think we've had too much dishonest capitalism & dishonest government. In the U.S., we're no longer a nation of laws and blind justice. It's increasingly becoming a matter of who you are and who you know. That sounds too much like Russia or China to me. Enemies of the state - beware!"
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First of all they make a distinction between an economic system and a government. Capitalism and democracy are not synonymous although they have been long associated in the US and in varying degrees in other western nations.

Capitalism in itself is neutral, but the current reallocation of assets — mostly from the U.S. middle class to the upper class (under pretense of raising the world's poorest class) is a perversion of it like we've never seen before.

I believe we are currently the victims of a takeover (still in process) by elitists who are skillfully using our government to gather excessive amounts of capital for their own purposes. Money and power have always been synonymous.

Using the same techniques as the greatest despots throughout history they are melding them with the latest technology to spread their influence globally.

This is not to say this is a global conspiracy (yet), but using the "Big Lie" technique (Hitler, Stalin, Mao were experts) and the instant communication available today, they can funnel the masses into a manageable unit.

When I say THE big lie, I mean actually using several. The best lies are those which contain a grain of truth.

Global warming — could be a short term condition, may be a massive shift, could be man made or due to some other natural reason.

Too big to fail… "Banks must be saved at all costs to prevent a systemic collapse." "Too complex to explain." Says who? Those who benefit by all out rescue.

Yes, we have a global economic crisis. Yes we have global pollution. Massive health and nutrition and terror issues. By creating fear, a sense of urgency and in some a sense of guilt — they are able to divert attention from what they are taking from those of us who have had a better living standard and pretend to be helping many others. In the process they will gain immense wealth and power.

Using the "crisis mentality" of the day, they are trampling the principles of our nation's Constitution. When Bush instituted open season on spying it was due to the crisis of 9/11. Obama is using the excuse of economic collapse to override the Constitutional protections to free enterprise and private property — robbing future generations to justify his own ends.

Unless we put a stop to this, I think it will end in one of two ways — neither is good.

1. A world oligarchy overseeing the rest of us.
2. A world war.

Yamana Gold: Scotia Capital Research

Yamana Gold Inc. (AUY-N US$9.57) Trevor Turnbull, MBA, MSc - 416-863-7427
Approaching Fair Value after Outpacing Peers Leily Omoumi, MBA - 416-945-4527
Event
■ We are downgrading Yamana to 2-Sector Perform based on share price appreciation and
returns that have surpassed the TSX Global Gold index since our October upgrade.
Implications
■ We have not changed our view or valuation of Yamana, but our implied return to our target
price is now only 4%.
■ Yamana is still characterized by well-financed production growth of over 30% this year. It
also benefits from total cash costs of less than $400 per gold equivalent ounce on a coproduct
basis.
■ We are maintaining our $10.00 target based on 2.0x our net asset value of $5.01 per share
and 12x our estimated 2010E CFPS of $0.77.
Recommendation
■ We believe more attractive entry points are likely in the coming months if the gold price
trends flat to down as we are forecasting

Disclosure: No position

keep a lid on the rally

I really believe they need to keep it down, sell off even, if we are to (ultimately) go higher from here. Ideal scenario is hitting resistance at 8000 and pulling back.

Re: the mutual fund handicap

2nd- For shorter term holdings ( less than 30 days ), why not use similar ETF's. I assume you think the fee is justified by the funds manager.
Still haven't heard from X+3B, which is unusual.
Oils action today is a type of confirmation for me.

David- ERX, ERX, ERX....sending you REM messages.

Re: the mutual fund handicap

Mark- There are no ETF options in the retirement accounts I invest in at work (although my wife and I do have those options in our self-directed IRAs). I'm actually quite fortunate to have pretty much the full array of Fidelity funds to choose from, which includes their 'Select' sector funds.

FRE/FNM/ABK/MBI

Because of the fact FRE/FNM are in conservatorship, I think the risk/reward ratio could be too steep. Prefer ABK/MBI with a bias towards MBI.

I am suspicious

The market feels complacent.

Another thing. What makes stocks go up? More buying than selling, right? WRONG!

This canard is the biggest steaming pile of nonsense going. The only thing that makes stocks go up is a change in mass perception of them.
THEN buying strength becomes the immediate catalyst for the rise, but remember this dynamic FOLLOWS the perceptual change.

(of course, for every share bought another is sold. If you question why anyone would sell a good stock too cheaply, well, just review the history of your own trades:)

Re: the mutual fund handicap

2nd- That is lucky. At my previous employer, I only had 4 "life style" funds to choose from.
Pre-market; Looks like I might have missed this one for now. Unless this is the biggest world wide "... sell the news."

If I'm on the side, I might look at a short FAZ play if the open spike is too high.

Good Luck, Man.

Cara 100 Update

ADBE - estimates, target increased at UBS to $25. Estimates also raised, based on signs of stability in the product channel. Buy rating.

Re: I am suspicious

"The only thing that makes stocks go up is a change in mass perception of them."

shark- I think you're on to something ;) That's why sentiment indicators lead technical indicators, IMO.

FASB Meeting

Is anyone else listening to the FASB meeting? From the sounds of it, it seems like the changes are minor if anything at all. They are saying that the current model that is in place will not really change, its more that they need to clarify their rules. For example, a bank is currently allowed to use something other than fair value on an asset that is intended to be held to maturity. So if they can make an argument for intent to hold to maturity then they don't have to mark to market. They intend to provide further clarification on how to determine if an asset is going to be held to market.

They are wondering though, that if a change to the credit profile of the asset occurs, then shouldn't there be some sort of impairment to the value of that asset...and if so, they are talking about how to advise banks to assess this impairment event.

Financials off to the races

BAC C GS AIG USB WFC MBI PFG JPM FITB
Insane? ! .

Re: Financials off to the races

"BAC C GS AIG USB WFC MBI PFG JPM FITB
Insane? ! ."

The market has been insane for many months now... IMO.

BAC- paring back @ 7.85

19% gain in 2 days. Still bullish.

Re: BAC- paring back @ 7.85

BAC could fall off the radar if the merrill lynch 3.6 billion performance bonuses are brought to light. Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich are demanding answers from the us treasury and fed on Who was on first, and What was on second.
Strong sell BAC, the next bonus scandal.
Paulson needs a prison cell next to Madoff!

GS, FAZ etc

In a couple of weeks, when it will be time to short, we could buy tons of FAZ at a cheap price & also some puts on GS.... GS, the way its going up, will have a mighty fall as well.

Mark to Fantasy

Well the FASB bent under pressure and changed the rules to allow banks to use "significant" judgment in valuing assets where markets are inactive

http://tinyurl.com/d4ca6k

"William Isaac, chairman of the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. from 1981 to 1985, has called fair value “extremely and needlessly destructive” and “a major cause” of the credit crisis. Robert Rubin, the former Citigroup Inc. senior counselor and Treasury secretary, said Jan. 27 the rule has done “a great deal of damage.”

We may have a knee-jerk rally over this but when the euphoria is over we'll go down hard as this may be the final blow to confidence in our system. The reality is that these banks are already holding these assets at an average of 95% of the original price. That's the extent of the write-downs many have taken so far. I think the reality of the losses so far are in the 10-15% range. Those losses aren't coming back no matter what these banks pretend they're worth. And when commercial loans start defaulting those losses will expand to 20-25%. The reason the market is inactive for these securities is because noone wants them at the prices the banks are willing to sell them, even though people who would buy them know their approximate value.

Rob.

MBI @ 5.06

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Thurs CC is up

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