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Cara's Commentary & Community Chat, Wed., May 27, 2009

[7:27am ET] One of the reasons that people are so anxious today is that Interventionists from Washington and Wall Street have seized the opportunity caused by their own actions of the past several years to establish a new paradigm for America. Society in America is being changed without the people’s consent, and without even their knowledge.

Frankly the people need to be more demanding. They need to know, for instance, why the Interventionists and not the courts are managing the GM and Chrysler bankruptcies, and why their elected representatives were kept in the dark over the trillions of dollars in public debt and financial guarantees taken on to benefit certain private companies, and on and on.

The point I want to make is that America today is under the control of a very small network of people and the public is not even aware who many of them are. Is this the independent America perceived by the Founding Fathers of the nation? I think not.

We need an independent and objective forum to focus the people on these issues. Before it is too late.

Somebody today asked me if there is any hope for the American public or will those in control just get increasingly powerful. My answer is that people who take personal matters into their own hands can control their outcome. And if enough of them work together to share insights and experiences with respect to risk-reward, society will benefit greatly.

Perhaps, in time, America might even return to its roots.

Have a good day.


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Cara 100 Ratings Changes

Good morning.

New:

ATVI - Brean Murray Initiates Coverage with a Buy. Price Target = $15
BBBY - Oppenheimer Initiates Coverage with an Outperform. Price Target = $42
BBY - Oppenheimer Initiates Coverage with a Perform. Price Target = $40
ERTS - Brean Murray Initiates Coverage with a Hold.
INTC - Roth Capital Initiates Coverage with a Hold. Price Target = $15

Price Target Raised:

RIMM - from $75 to $90 @ AmTech Research. Buy

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Other Stocks of Possible Interest:

HMY - Downgraded to Neutral @ UBS

Interventionist v. America

There is another freedom fighter now trying to get into the Senate. Rand Paul or Ron Paul's son is going for the Kentucky senate seat opening up.

Also, the people are slowly being educated...YAL or young Americans for Liberty and other grass roots organizations, and I hope your prediction of the great fall of HB&B comes true...I hope they (American Citizens) realize how important this is!

Lots of hope for sure!

RE: Inflation / Deflation comments from WIR

Soulek, good post and summary of the issue that you posted yesterday.
I agree that Feds successfully ignited the inflation and there is no coming back.

Faber is very vocal about in his newest interview:
http://www.bloomberg.com/avp/avp.htm?N=adviser&T=F...

However, there is one thing, Feds have no control were the hot money goes to. If the funny money all go to commodities and especially oil (which is happening already), that will cut the branch on which the world economy resides and will create a big dose of deflation again, just like it happened in 2008.

Either way, USA is doomed, unless something happens that changes everything, ie. global war in which US prevails (like WW2) or a new discovery that puts US again on the technological top (like PC or internet).

Maybe it's the weather

but today feels like it could turn bearish.

Hey...Anybody got any good trading ideas?

Cara 100 Update

COST - Price Target Raised from $49 to $56 @ Jefferies & Co. Buy

Re: Maybe it's the weather

hi shark,

I'm thinking more miners. northgate minerals? NXG

CDE

Something funny going on with CDE...premarket +$12.00 ???

Re: Maybe it's the weather

NXG is overbought with RSI 75. IMHO you might be chasing it here. Just my 2C's.

DYOD

Re: CDE

COEUR DALENE, Idaho--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Coeur d’Alene Mines Corporation (NYSE:CDE - News) (TSX:CDM - News) (ASX:CXC - News) announced today that its previously disclosed 1-for-10 reverse stock split was completed effective as of 6:01 p.m., Eastern time, on May 26, 2009

Re: Maybe it's the weather

french,

thanks, will hold.

Back in the TZA trade

Let's see if yesterday's rally is for real and has legs or was just a pause before more selling. Tight stop in case it's the former.

Update: Well, that didn't take long. I was wrong and should have waited through first hour of trading to get a better feel for market pulse.

Re: Maybe it's the weather

Speaking of miners: Is anyone planning on attending the presentation sessions for Goldcorp and Agnico?

Speaking of weather: -19 with the wind and light flurries this morning.

Cara 100 Update (Final)

DOW - numbers raised at Barclays through 2010. Company is aggressively cutting costs, including synergies from the Rohm & Haas deal. Equal-weight rating and new $18 price target.

UTX - target raised at UBS to $58. Company faces easier year/year comparisons in the second half of the year, when restructuring efforts will kick in. Buy rating.

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More on INTC:

Rated new Hold at Roth Capital. $15 price target. Company will likely see pricing pressures, as customers are shifting toward lower priced PC's

homebuilders

Some pretty crazy price movements in the home builders this morning. Lennar first up 5%, now flat, within 30 minutes, on big volume.

Could it really be so simple

Could it really be this simple?

Dear Mr. Darling,
Please find below my suggestion for fixing Britain 's economy. Instead of giving billions of pounds to banks that will squander the money on lavish parties and unearned bonuses, use the following plan.
You could call it the Patriotic Retirement Plan:
There are about 20 million people over 50 in the work force. – Pay them £1 million apiece severance for early retirement with the following stipulations:
1) They MUST retire. Twenty million job openings - Unemployment fixed.
2) They MUST buy a new British CAR. Twenty million cars ordered - Auto Industry fixed.
3) They MUST either buy a house or pay off their mortgage – Housing Crisis fixed.
4) They must send there kids to school / collage /university - Crime rate fixed.
5) Buy £50 of alcohol / tobacco a week there's your money back in duty / tax etc.
It can't get any easier than that!
P.S. If more money is needed, have all members of parliament pay back there falsely claimed expenses and second home allowances
Thanks

Bill's comments of late have

Bill's comments of late have been very interesting, and readers need to pay particular attention to the news we're currently been fed, and how the market reacts. It does appear fishy.

In Wednesday's daily report, Bill said:

"The speed with which the S&P futures rallied, and the sectors targeted for purchase, really makes one wonder if some large institutions knew the contents of the Consumer Confidence report, and had lined up the scripts to send to the mass media outlets they control."

I read a LOT of commentary over the long holiday weekend on the economy and the markets, and the general consensus was overall quite bearish. One comment that caught my eye on Monday in a different forum was "everyone sounds bearish, so the market will probably rally on Tuesday."

Don't think that those in control don't peruse the various forums and discourse to gauge the sentiment of the populace. It seems well within the realm of possibility to me that the news articles on shopping malls being either very slow or being closed, are published with intent to sway opinion.

With all the advantages that the internet brings to individual investors (instantaneous access to news, prices, etc), those in control can just as easily use it against us.

All this said, it would not surprise me to see the market burst out of the small congestion range of the last 2 1/2 weeks, and then fall back. See the action in very early January of this year for a similar setup where the market broke out of a 3 week consolidation and subsequently failed.

We need to be careful how we interpret what we read, what we see on TV, and balance it with common sense and solid logic. This forum that Bill Cara has formed and nurtured is an excellent starting point. Thanks again, Bill.

take care all/ToddinFL

When will this horrible recession be over?

What the pop economists like "Smart Money" magazine and "official" experts are saying.

I am posting this MSNBC article because the reaction from readers seems hopeful that the BSers are losing ground. Could indicate a first step toward electing more like the Pauls and forcing reality on Congress.

"When will this horrible recession be over? According to one surprising source, it's over right now.

The source is Robert J. Gordon, an acclaimed macroeconomist and professor at Northwestern University. It's surprising to learn he thinks the recession is over, because he is one of seven members of the elite Business Cycle Dating Committee of the National Bureau of Economic Analysis. These are the people who decide officially, for the record books, when recessions begin and end -- usually many months after the fact, when the decision is really obvious. I'm unaware of any previous case in which a member of this committee has stepped forward and declared the end of a recession in real time."

http://tiny.cc/Plqn5

Replies from readers unimpressed.

C @ 3.75

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for the record... i had a dream

no joke, here is the exact dream i had last night that i woke up in a panic from before i realized i was dreaming...

i dreamt i awoke around 7 am, went to make my morning coffee and checked my computer to open up the Kitco page to check the gold price action overnight.

i remember hitting the "refresh" button and the screen jumped, the POG was reading $1107.

i almost fell off the chair and was trying to pull up the bloomberg headlines to find out what must have happened overnight, or that mabey it was a mistake...

i was so agitated i woke up and went to check kitco just in case....

a dream or a premonition?

Sentiment

I was cruising through the CNBS's, Bloomberg's, etc. last night and caught Cramer saying we should now be buying the dips.

That usually means 666 is just around the corner.

Booyah.

Re: for the record... i had a dream

What did you have for dinner?

Re: for the record... i had a dream

Dr. "C",

Check your oral temperature, it may be Gold Fever! ;-)

Bill, thanks again for your latest comments and analysis....today was a light bulb "click on" type of day.......I hope your site is growing in popularity and that your business model catches on all over the globe......what's that older expression...."power to the people".....

Re: Sentiment

does Cramer have a conscience?

Re: for the record... i had a dream

Dream/premoniton doesn't matter, $1107 sounds good to me!

Re: for the record... i had a dream

It is good to have a dream but it is problem when one start sleepwalking toward Kaimu's gold stack?

Re: Bill's comments of late have

Another commentator who seems to have integrity is the bond wrap guy at "Seeking Alpha.com"...last name Jansen....his wrap up yesterday was interesting regarding the sale of treasuries....it dove tails with Bill's comments today....it was entitled...."Something's A Foot" IMSO (S for small)

OCLS

Just in case anyone picked up some OCLS on my comments a while back...Time for me to say good-bye to this local Co. Received FDA approval for it's wound care line today. Off @ 2.44 (+138%).

gold volume

Pretty brisk gold volume this morning. Attempts to give gold a beat down were met with big buying pressure.

Heh at least that's how I see it anyway. :)

80k futures contracts traded today and so far we're only an hour into the trading day. Sometimes that's the entire daily volume!

Wow, and there it just took off - gold +2.

Re: Sentiment

what's up with appl and how about RSI values????

i am confuused....

I added to JNJ this morning since it was the only one down. Should this be the time to sell KGC and GG if the RSI values are so high??

vb

Re: homebuilders

Yes, I noticed BDK had some crazy moves also.

FD: long

Re: Sentiment

rumored to come with a lower priced iphone

http://www.thestreet.com/_yahoo/story/10505857/1/t...

Re: Sentiment

GG took out resistance and KGC is at resistance, if your are long and want to protect gains why not set stops, mental or hard, and let the market take you out. Maybe others here could give options ideas such as selling calls if you think that momentum is waning.

gold bombing attempt

They tried to bomb gold up again. Drove it down $2, and buyers treated it like a half off sale at their favorite retailer. All that's left of the attempt is a long lower candlestick shadow and a big volume line. Silver as well.

I gotta say, this price action is unusual, and very impressive. It makes me think that Dr. Cosa's dream may eventually come true!

Dr. Cosa: I have a dream! Gold at 1107! :)

Re: When will this horrible recession be over?

One has to remember that the 2000 recession was officially over by the end of 2001 yet the stocks sinked till late 2002 (reference: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_2000s_recession).

Same with the leading economic indicator. It is rising now giving a huge boost to this rally, yet everyone forgets that the leading indicator went up a lot between 2001-2002 followed by another bust.

Bill hit the nail with the sentiment being a lagging indicator. Actually, it correlates fairly well with equity and is useless, except for a contrarian trade.

Banksters vs. Kids

Just something to think about...

The Los Angeles Times summarized the direction of those difficult choices in a story headlined “Poor would be hard hit by proposed California budget cuts,” which stated that Schwarzenegger “is considering a plan to slash California’s safety net for the poor by eliminating the state’s main welfare program, health insurance for low-income families and cash grants to college students.”

Bail out the banks, but not the 500,000 poor families with children served by the CalWorks program, which will be dismantled, or the 928,000 children covered by the Healthy Families program, slated for oblivion.

At a time when the feds are spending with such abandon in an effort to stimulate the economy why is it tolerable to leave states in a position where they are forced to fire teachers? As the Los Angeles Times reported: “Schwarzenegger has proposed slashing state spending on education by $3 billion to help close the budget gap, and the state would pay dearly for canceling classes, firing instructors, cutting class days and shortening the school year, experts said.” How can there be federal funds readily available for banker bonuses but not to keep teachers in the classroom with their students? It must have been the kids who caused the meltdown.

http://tinyurl.com/olmwlc

treasury auction today?

Ok, so we have a 10 year auction today, and a 30 year auction tomorrow.
Perhaps this is why the volume in gold yesterday as well as today?
People trying to get into their positions prior to a possible treasury auction failure?

Perhaps that's why all the dips are getting bought, but we're not seeing a massive
spike up. And that's why the S&P is trading in such an incredibly tight range
right now.

Auction results (according to a previous auction results PDF) are at 13:00 ET.
Should be interesting. Maybe sell half the position right before the news,
keeping the other half "just in case" there's a breakout?

FD: back in gold again, due to Dr. Cosa's Dream.
(just kidding about the dream part)

Re: Banksters vs. Kids

Guess they don't need to be educated. There won't be diddly squat jobs for them anyway. See how the state (children) and feds (your soldiers) throw away their most precious resources - human beings.

Still, plenty of privately educated kids to inherit the thrones of finance and political power.

The US ain't finished yet.

Re: Cara 100 Update (Final)

DOW - Thanks for the upgrade info, I've also heard thr Rohm & Haas family are selling their shares, and that may be why the price has been falling the past few days.

I see the Barclays upgrade as possibly an attempt at getting the family a better price for their shares, but once they've completed their sale the next leg up can begin.

Re: treasury auction today?

Hey Dave- "People trying to get into their positions prior to a possible treasury auction failure?" That's my guess. So... pressing the bet on TBT (adding @ 55.15).

Also took OCLS profits and added to UNG @ 13.52. Kinda like using this "house money" thing.

Re: treasury auction today?

davefairtex - "Ok, so we have a 10 year auction today, and a 30 year auction tomorrow."

My understanding was today's auction was for 5yr notes and tomorrows was 7yr notes. Never the less, it's safe to say today's auction activity, if disappointing, is likely to have a negative effect on equities prices. There are a great many who view yesterday's successful auction as contrary to the remainder of the week, as the remaining auctions focus on longer term treasuries.

Additionally, I heard the FED will be purchasing 2012 through 2018 issues today.

We'll just have to wait for the results.

Re: Savings

Mackinaw,

I posted this in reply to your query yesterday, reposting in case you didn't see it:

Some quick digging found this site with a bunch of stats for last 5 years:

http://www.euromonitor.com/factfile.aspx?country=US

numbers in millions
annual disposable income 2008: 10,279,820.75
gdp 2008: 14,493,188.56

Which works out to the oft quoted 70% consumption making up GDP, assuming 0% savings which was pretty much the cast.

so 1% of disposable income = 102,798 million, or 0.7% of GDP

They say savings rate is now at something like 4% vs 0% a few years ago, so technically this would subtract 2.8% from GDP (if disposable income stayed the same).

monthly disposable income per capita figures:

http://www.bea.gov/briefrm/percapin.htm

Not sure how disposable income has been rising the last few months given the multi-million dollar layoffs. Maybe just cause fuel has gotten cheaper? Can't see that sustaining. And if it doesn't, there will be combination of declining disposable income AND increased savings, thus an even bigger bite out of GDP...

Re: Maybe it's the weather

Rugger, your post makes me feel better about living in Edmonton :) Our snow finally stopped a week and a half ago...

wow UNG

So what happened to UNG at 10:20 (approx) eastern? It was going down hard, and then abruptly reversed course, all the moves taking place on above average volume for the day. BTW nice buy-in point, Mark, house money or no house money!

The market is behaving very strangely today. Things are afoot.

gold here...

gold bouncing up against overhead resistance.

weve been here before, but its tricky to really say which direction is next.
typically this was the prelude to a plunge down after the drift upwards against overhead resistance. but w/ volume what it is and w/ all the bond auction talk i cant say.

i trashed my shorts yesterday and will wait and see, i dont want to get burned again, even if it is with a small portion of my account.

i think too many people are anticipating a bad bond auction, the contrarian in me is thinking it might be that bad, but spun well enough into a "not as bad as everyone thought, so that means its bullish good news" type scenario.

i wouldnt bet on a bond failure, but i would bet that Central Banks will make sure to step in and support any potential gaps in demand because no central bank wants a crisis at this point.

found a domesticated ferret outside our house

gotta take it to a specialist association to look after it.

Bloody thing keeps biting me.

night all.

ps. see its another same old same old. U can't touch this...

rinse and repeat.

Re: treasury auction today?

CP - My understanding was today's auction was for 5yr notes and tomorrows was 7yr notes.

Yes you have the straight scoop on that, I misread the calendar. :) 5 year notes today, 7 year notes tomorrow.

http://www.treas.gov/offices/domestic-finance/debt...

Wow, gold and silver are just going nuts. Silver +0.36 today and gold +6.

Re: for the record... i had a dream

dr.cosa - Perhaps you need to take some time off. But don't go without first taking a substantial position in PM's. I also have dreams while sleeping but very rarely remember anything about them. Maybe I sleep better that way...

Re: found a domesticated ferret outside our house

Biting ferret - Have rabies been eradicated in Switzerland? Never allow an unfamiliar animal the opportunity to bite.

"there was an agenda by someone somewhere"

http://www.minyanville.com/articles/AAPL-rimm-UDN-...

"The market: There's a strong tendency for the market to rally on the Friday ahead of long weekends. The failure of the market to hold up on Friday scoring the second consecutive weekly close at/near the low of the weekly range had many players, myself included, leaning long. I personally had some longs and shorts, as reflected by my swing positions, but the initial down open and immediate reversal triggered some new shorts which I was then stopped out of. Although the strength was attributed to the nice consumer confidence numbers, the market had already reversed from the get go, with the turbo chargers being turned on following the release of the consumer confidence report.

Call me a cynic, but it looks to me like there was an agenda by someone somewhere. If it looks, feels, and smells like a trap, it usually is. And Turnaround Tuesday had the fingerprints of a panty raid by Hoofy early on.

The moral of the story: We’ve all seen this film before, and when you walk into the new week and get hit in the back of the head with a 2X4, the best course of action is to duck and bang some offers yourself."

Silver

Just checked the Kitco ticker and was a bit surprised to see silver bumping up against the $15 mark!

FTWR

CP- Still holding FTWR? This might be a good profit point. If credit tightens again that will cost them.

what time is the treasury auction?

thanks

CREE

Nice follow through today after yesterdays big move. FD-long

Watching Timmy on bubblevision

I have the sound muted but I think he is yelling---LASSIE, COME HOME.

Re: FTWR

Mark - Absolutely I've still got FTWR! This is an infrastructure play from my perspective, the Obama stimulus hasn't been rolled out yet has it?

I'm coming closeer to a double bagger on this and wishing I'd've bought more even though the position is my second largest. Will probably feel the same way about CHK and DOW going into the future...

Re: treasury auction today?

hey mark,

great score on the OCLS! Kudos my friend! :))

Bair Says Banks Can’t Buy Own Assets in PPIP Auction

May 27 (Bloomberg) -- Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. Chairman Sheila Bair said banks involved in the U.S. Public- Private Investment Program won’t be permitted to buy their own impaired assets as a way to cleanse their balance sheets.

“There should be no confusion: Banks will not be able to bid on their own assets,” Bair said today at a Washington news briefing to discuss first-quarter U.S. bank earnings. There is “no structure” for such purchases, she said.

The FDIC is helping the Treasury Department set up and run the PPIP, which will use $75 billion to $100 billion of Troubled Asset Relief Program funds to entice private investors to buy as much as $1 trillion in distressed mortgage-backed securities and other assets.
http://bit.ly/1lDSnO

Re: Sentiment

Perhaps he and his fellow dips will buy.

GOING SHORT

I purchased a second AAPL put...QAA SC at 2.00 this day.

I could be early, but I will see.

Re: Maybe it's the weather

Rugger: "Speaking of miners: Is anyone planning on attending the presentation sessions for Goldcorp and Agnico?"

There will be two or three at least. Pls send me your best questions and I'll pass them along. Thx.

Re: Bair Says Banks Can’t Buy Own Assets in PPIP Auction

Someone should explain to Bair that where there's a will, there's a way. Bair is either naive, or she's aiding and abetting the plan. HB&B will find a way to buy their own "toxic" assets while offing the losses onto someone else if that's their goal. That's the purpose of this entire exercise involving the global economic meltdown.

Re: Sentiment

666 sounds like a nice dip to buy, thanks for the target!

selling gold today

Well they've been selling gold ever since noon, and boy this thing will simply explode at the slightest touch. The 5 minute RSI is 6.5!

These auction days are exciting! :)

Heads up on Vical presentation ( vicl )....Phase 3

San Diego, American Society of Gene Therapy - May 27 -30... Vical will present Phase III clinical trial info. on Allovectine-7(r) for Metastatic melanoma ( along with h1n1 info )...

SRS out at 21.14

I'll take the teenie I guess. Probably should double up here, but trying to cut down some risk.

Re: for the record... I had a dream

I tend to give these sorts of dreams a lot of creedence.

BTW this morning I wrote:

Submitted by shark_attack (877 comments) on Wed, 05/27/2009 - 09:12 #29533

"Maybe it's the weather but today feels like it could turn bearish."

That was a good premonition too eh?

Re: selling gold today

not surprising, i think too much bearishness was baked in the cake for bond sales that people had dire visions of that didnt come true, so gold is backing off the panic hype.

that being said, weve got longer dated treasuries thursday, the levels of Central Bank buying will be a critical indicator as people seem to believe as long as non-US central banks are buying thats "foreign purchases" when in reality its other CB's just cannibalizing eachother's bonds.

Bond market punishes companies after auto rift: report

Tue May 26, 2009 4:56pm EDT

"By Dena Aubin

NEW YORK (Reuters) - Scores of companies are being punished in the bond market as the Obama administration's policies on General Motors and Chrysler LLC create new risks for creditors, a veteran bond strategist says.

As GM teeters toward a bankruptcy filing and Chrysler attempts to restructure in bankruptcy court, the Obama administration is offering most of the recovery value of those companies to "a favored political class, in this case the United Auto Workers, leaving creditors with very slender debt recoveries," Christopher Garman, founder of Garman Research in Orinda, California, said in a report released late on Friday."

http://www.reuters.com/article/americasDealsNews/i...

Do whatever it takes to reward those who created the problems while punishing the savers, investors, and risk takers.

Re: selling gold today

"people had dire visions"

Agree. It's like the media overreacting to information or what may happen.

I've opined about this before, but I suspect a gradual erosion in longer term Treasury sales . . . . eventually it will increase more noticeably (as the snowball rolls down the hill), but it takes awhile to reach there . . . not a NY minute like most traders are focusing on.

Re: for the record... I had a dream

you got ***** five star for that

sudden reversal in markets

What happened? I was worried my stops would bet hit on my short positions when suddenly the markets tanked hard.

To me it looks just like the action in the first week in June 2008. Third and final push up against the resistance followed by a sharp sell off with a new lower low.

will Fed pull back on money printing?

I posted that on another blog but got no feedback.
What if the current bond sale fiasco and erosion of confidence in USA will force the Fed to withdraw some money (mini deflation) to bump $ and bonds up to bring rates lower and shake out inflation speculators? After all, banks sold their shares and small investors will be left to hold the bags.
I believe they pulled the trick a year ago (and perhaps early summer 2007) and may do it now.

Afternoon Sentiment - Hurry up and Wait!!

It appears today's treasury auction was better than anticipated, and perhaps sentiment has changed in the face of tomorrow's auction but I have to believe tomorrow's auction, while being longer term notes, now has a much better chance of following the trend. Perhaps something else is afoot...

on interventions

countertrend tuesday

Barry Ritholz had an article a few weeks back about "countertrend tuesdays". You shorts, stay frosty! Anything could happen tomorrow.

For me, I'm playing short billy ball. When I get 4% - 6% move in my short, I close it out, and wait for another opportunity. When I get greedy and look for more, I almost always get caught in a reversal, and I have to wait it out.

One pattern I have noticed is a reverse-U shaped daily chart. Great example: JWN today. They tank the stock on the open (probably popping the stocks of anyone who is long, but I dunno, since I'm not long), and then drive it up to 3-4% gain, enough to surpass the high of yesterday (popping the stops of anyone who went short the previous day), and then it either goes horizontal or drops down to close basically where it opened.

They do this not daily, but every 3-4 days.

i have seen this more times than I can count. After the first time, I started to put my stops much further up, and I've become much pickier on my entry points. I haven't been stopped out since - but my risk is certainly higher.

EDIT: actually, I use two different stops. The first is the "entry point stop" which is quite tight, for picking the top of the U. The second is the interday stop, which I set after market close, to avoid HB&B's stop hunting games. I often get stopped out before I get a good entry point, but I don't lose very much. I have not yet been stopped out on my inter-day stops.

Short billy ball. It's the only way I've found to play the game with HB&B while short.

FD: short retailers, REITs, and the XLF.

Re: will Fed pull back on money printing?

Jack Black - I'm not quite following your logic but, if you mean the FED might stop the practice of buying treasuries and crowding the market, then we will see if the market is willing to absorb massive governmental debt without intervention. Increased taxation is just another mechanism for inflation.

Personally, I believe the FED is using strong arm tactics to encourage central banks to purchase treasuries. Perhaps one of these tactics is the threat of QE, for which they have demonstrated willingness.

Re: on interventions

There was another compelling evidence on that posted on Traderfeed:
http://traderfeed.blogspot.com/2009/05/is-suppleme...

His is not into conspiracy theories but concluded:
"Given the concentration of this program activity in the last hour, a skeptic might be led to conclude that this trading is more designed to aid the liquidity of participating trading firms than the liquidity of the marketplace. There is nothing wrong with this--unless the activity is funded in part or whole by a stock exchange working in conjunction with financial institutions backstopped by the government, creating a less than level playing field for independent traders and investors."

bear trap?

Not sure I would let that spike down pull me into the short ultras. But it's a start.

Asked for names

Earlier I received this mail:

Bill, you stated the following in your commetary today:

"Frankly the people need to be more demanding. They need to know, for instance, why the Interventionists and not the courts are managing the GM and Chrysler bankruptcies, and why their elected representatives were kept in the dark over the trillions of dollars in public debt and financial guarantees taken on to benefit certain private companies, and on and on.

The point I want to make is that America today is under the control of a very small network of people and the public is not even aware who many of them are. Is this the independent America perceived by the Founding Fathers of the nation? I think not."

I would appreciate it if you could, to the best of your ability, share the names of the people that comprise the "small network" for I agree with you that the United States is being taken down the wrong road and I am willing to contact Congressional individuals and others to help shine some sunlight on this problem. I would be interested in seeing who you think makes up this "small network" for I see the main players being (Obama, Geithner, Bernanke, Paulson,Volcker, Romer, Dimon, Lewis, Pandit, Soros etc). However, I am interested in your listing to see how it compares and what I am missing. Also, I would appreciate your extrapolation on what you see the overall plan is that this "small network" wishes to accomplish.

Thank you in advance for you response.

/(Anon)

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Anon,

The people you list are the faces, but the keys are people like Henry Kissinger, and groups like the Bilderbergs, Council On Foreign Relations, the Trilateral Commission, the Rand Corporation, the Business Roundtable, the PPT, etc. These groups are organized, have goals and objectives, and have financial resources. They pay the lobbyists who help get elected many of those in Congress you'd like to contact. So they win. They win the large govt contracts, they work closely with the CIA, the Treasury and the Fed, and they organize and promote capital market activity that is in their financial interest. They also control the media so very little is written for public consumption about these power groups, but they exist nonetheless and they get richer and more powerful as time moves on.

These groups also do good. Many of their activities create jobs, create wealth. Philanthropy is big with many of them. I don’t think we should make such a big deal about their individual groups or how they operate except where they effectively unduly influence government. I think the biggest concern the public has, or at least ought to, is the edge these factions have, and when things go against them they lobby for new rules, which the public can't do -- effectively anyway. We need a level playing field. Once we have that, it’s up to us to organize the way they do. Most of it is legal and ethical.

The public can also reject a lot of the nonsense and deception these groups foster. We can do that by pointing it out, working together and trading against them. We can demand a strong, independent SEC, and reject these so-called public-private partnerships like the Fed, Fannie and Freddie, and so forth. It would help, of course, if we had an independent and objective mass media, but given time, bloggers will become the primary source of that information.

When I first started blogging I said blogging was the perfect model for working toward social equity. It’s a flat network model (i.e., many to many schema) versus the hierarchical organization model (i.e., the one to many schema) that has been taught for years at business schools.

At the end of the day, I see the public winning this struggle. Our great reward will be freedom.

PPIP

It seems to me that all the big U.S. Banks have to do is arrange among themselves to buy each others toxic assets.

Regards

Don't know if it moves, but Obama was at Nellis Air Base

speaking on solar... Sunpower ( spwra ) is the system in use there, and panels were displayed behind him..........

re: SPWRA.... 20 croses 50 3 weeks ago, bouncing off 20,

rsi has room for mojo... very ' emotional ' stock.. volume has been sharp on advancing candles...

ADVANTA MODEL

ALOHA !!

One of my suppliers is being forced to quit using ADVANTA credit card. He is one of the guys who makes money off credit cards by paying off his balance every month and getting rebates. He tells me he makes $1500USD per year off ADVANTA rebates. Now he is looking at CAPITAL ONE as his next choice for rebates. But how long can the rebate model last in this enviroment?

ADVANTA has informed him that they are currently running a 20%+ default rate and to make up for that they have raised interest rates to 36% for those who still carry balances. EARTH TO ADVANTA CEO!

May 31, 2009 will be the last day he can have charges applied to his ADVANTA card. On June 1, 2009 ADVANTA will no longer use a credit card model, but a debt collection model. Not sure how long a credit card company can exist on just DEBT COLLECTION when default rates are rising above 20%.

What sort of short action is on ADVANTA and other credit card companies that have these rebate models, like CAPITAL ONE? By the way I get COMEON OFFERS from CAPITAL ONE for my business almost every day. It is ridiculous that
this has been going on for years now ... What a waste of trees! In fact that is the main reason I would never consider CAPITAL ONE, they are way too agressive and wasteful. Their marketing dept seems clueless when it comes to "mailers"!

ADVANTA its time for TARP WARP ...

FAZ & SRS

Glad I went with my gut and got in on these early today...but where is everyone headed this week? My mind is all over the place and I just can't pick a trade other than sticking with the Ultra Shorts... any ideas? oh...and UNG...been slowly picking up more today, were due for a pop.

Re: FAZ & SRS

ditto...sold SRS early, but have a stop set on FAZ @5.27, profit is locked hoping it runs to close.

edit: enough is enough took FAZ off @ 5.40

edit 2: trying some SCO @ 21.10 for swing trade.....doji reversal trade hopefully

confusion

kind of looks like a big train wreck to me. bac, rf up, all other banks down... BBBY upgraded and closing -.45.

geezeers

what's next

The Long end

Oh I see (a bit late), the long end went crashing again today. Oops, is that a freight train barreling down the track???

Re: ADVANTA MODEL

When I get offers in the mail, I always try to return the self addressed envelope empty. It's my small way of saying No Thanks!

Re: confusion

I dunno vanillabean, bac wasn't exactly a screamer today as far as I can tell... Perhaps they will be when their portfolio of mortgages reverses polarity due to a depreciated currency?

Aside from perhaps 5yr notes, I'm experiencing difficulty identifying anything of consequence that increased in "value" today...

Re: ADVANTA MODEL

"I always try to return the self addressed envelope empty." That should help the USPS keep postage rates down, how about inserting a check written in a negative amount as well?

Trade Of A Generation

I recall several months ago, Bill had mentioned a play in the bond markets involving a "trade of a generation". With much dislocation now occurring in the bond markets, coupled with strength in precious metals, perhaps we are at the initial phase of Bill's earlier but very noteworthy call?

Re: FTWR

Mark - Good work on those trades today, there must be something other than compounds that promote risky sexual behavior in your homemade concoction. ;)

Re: Trade Of A Generation

Fireworks, do you have that link? Thx

Re: Trade Of A Generation

Shiva - The term "TOG" refers to two concepts in my mind, the second of which has been a major topic of discussion here. The Trade Of a Generation involves selling treasuries and buying gold, and my perception is this aspect of trading is already in progress and gathering momentum.

The second definition of this Three Letter Acronym (TLA) is a loving reference to "The Old Guy". Thirdly, and according to wikipedia, TOG is a measure of thermal resistance commonly used in the textile industry.

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hey check out
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Interesting link>>> http://www.iamned.com

Lots of intriguing finance articles. Great website. I seriously suggest you bookmark it.

each of the last five economic recoveries. ETF vehicles include DSV, VBR, PWY, IWN, RZV, JKL

and UVT.

Re: Cool site

No thanks!

Re: Cool site

Wish we had a botnet to take him offline. I wonder how much it would cost. :)

Re: Asked for names

ummmm.... you sound a lot like me Bill.....hehe.... I wont hold that against you.

Kaimu's IRS revenue -34% in April 09 vs April 08

USA Today reports:

Federal tax revenue plunged $138 billion, or 34%, in April vs. a year ago — the biggest April drop since 1981, a study released Tuesday by the American Institute for Economic Research says.

http://www.usatoday.com/money/perfi/taxes/2009-05-...

And we still think GDP is only down 6% annualized, and we still think unemployment is only 8.9%?

Wait, don't tell me. Tax receipts are a lagging indicator. We should be looking forward six months. Maybe we'll all buy cars then! Consumer sentiment surveys are what matters! It's time for another rally!

Now I gotta say it: it all works until it doesn't! HA!

Re: Trade Of A Generation

CP, just wanted to re-read that blog. I think the treasury game is not over yet. There might be a run back to treasuries if another shoe falls somewhere (unless its the USD/US govt default). These are troubling times....

IT ALL WORKS UNTIL IT DOESN'T!!! Ha!

Golly, wonder if they can make up those lost revenues by increasing volume?

Re: Trade Of A Generation

Shiva - We were discussing the subject in depth last year this time as TBT was in rally mode, you might look there. As I recall, we discussed the subject almost daily. There must be a thousand links listed when I google "Bill Cara TOG".

Here is a link that might be a starting place, the concept is simple yet brilliant, not magical.

http://seekingalpha.com/article/107421-reflation-i...

CP

thx, i remember reading it all last year. Now time to go back and do some more analysis. This is all rinse and repeat happening in the market, so there could be some nuggets of information from the older posts still very useful.

Re: CP

分かりました! ;)

Quantitative Easing and Bond Market Dislocations

A few posts here and elsewhere ( http://rurl.org/1l8p and http://rurl.org/1l8q ) talk of the dislocation in the bond markets and quantitative easing. I don't understand either of these two terms. People seem to imply that these are major events. I'd be very grateful if people could post some useful pointers that can help me understand these. Thanks !

TOG

We're well past the initial phases of the TOG, which is shorting long bonds, notably the ten year. The low for TBT was $35.51 and we've worked up to 57.54 - 57.65 as of this moment aftermarket. The Fed will have to intervene or try to to keep interest rates low enough to not stifle housing, but that's the catch 22 of our times isn't it? I see much more printing and treasuries in our future. This is the part of the tour where they tell you to NOT LOOK DOWN....

Re: Quantitative Easing and Bond Market Dislocations

IMHO, this is a good read on the issue:
http://pensionpulse.blogspot.com/2009/05/liquidity...

Re: Quantitative Easing and Bond Market Dislocations

JTP - Assuming you've already digested the definition of QE offered on wikipedia:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantitative_easing

I have my favorite mechanisms for explaining in graphical representation:

http://www.joelcaplan.com/dontgiveup.jpg

Or in the words of a once "fair and wise guy":

"The significant problems we face cannot be solved at the same level of thinking we were at when we created them." --Albert Einstein

Re: TOG

TOG is coming and he is waiting.

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FED sacrifices equities for Treasuries?

Good evening all,

Cynical thought of the day. The Fed needs assistance at Treasury auctions and creates a disturbance in equity bull market to drive investors to "safety".

Re: TOG

I tried to raise this topic to no response a 2 or few weeks ago. Said something like...bonds are near 30 yr highs, a fall through the 2nd blue channel from the top would likely be bearish. A bounce at 110 seems likely. I dunno it just looks so sensible to me when you factor in the f.a.
But what will the driver be I think was the question at the time and still is. Likely more than apparent when it comes to be.

ps; does the double bottom at 104.81 and subsequent fib extention off that level suggest a top at 142.66? Jmho it does.

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Re: FED sacrifices equities for Treasuries?

"The Fed needs assistance at Treasury auctions and creates a disturbance in equity bull market to drive investors to "safety"."

The effort seems to have backfired, I'm having difficulty identifying the safe place you're referencing.

Humpty-Dumpty syndrome. So much for creative financing, I hear the piper and the helicopter rotors a coming up from behind the hill.

Re: TOG

vinod - I just fell out of my chair laughing!

Re: TOG

good laugh... people have been asking the bull for repeat performance tho, so hes staying on the stage longer :)

Re: TOG

Chickenpookie
did you notice this
Yesterday CNBC had a BREAKING NEWS: MARKET SURGES alert for 4 hours straight, for some odd reason the MARKET PLUNGES alert is nowhere to be found today

Re: TOG

vinod - TV here is off but no surprise there, the pookie is hitting the fan again, I'm an unhappy chicken. ;(

Re: TOG

i had the same thought, looking at all the bond charts, they all look still bullish. What does the bond yield are factoring in (inflation? Risk? Competitive returns of stock or corporate bonds?). Overall the financial scenario has worsened and the LT bond yields are less than what they were 2 years ago. Confuses the heck out of me, this bond subject....

Re: TOG

tbar - Good work, I hope your persistence is paying off! ;)

Nuclear War ??

Bill:

What do you think this will do to the markets?

http://tinyurl.com/yuc4st

Re: Nuclear War ??

how believable is this source? I wouldnt think they would jump to this option before exhausting all other including blockade

Interesting....

California, the only proposition that passed was the one preventing the legislature from getting pay increases if there is a budget deficit.
Some odd observations that I had this morning (I'm in Boston, we have a budget issue of our own, so I was comparing it to the problems in California):
California budget deficit, 21 billion. Massachusetts

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Re: TOG

They seem roughly in line with yields falling off their highs a while back. Now they are rising again, $USD falling again, but this time no running to treasuries on down days as in times gone by. Now it's to hard assets like gold, silver, oil and corporate bonds with higher yields. The idea is low(est) risk return and with the $USD in mid-swan dive and our prospects falling as fast as our deficits are skyrocketing, treasuries apparently don't look like good, low risk investments these days. More like wooden nickels. So demand for Treasuries falls, prices fall, yields to entice purchases go up. TLT goes down, TBT goes up.

The 20 Best-Performing Stocks of the Last Decade

"From Business Week:

Southwestern Energy (SWN)...................3,662%
Celgene (CELG).........................................2,607%
XTO Energy (XTO).....................................2,088%
Stericycle (SRCL)......................................1,503%
Gilead Sciences (GILD).............................1,491%
Denbury Resources (DNR)........................1,271%
FLIR Systems (FLIR).................................1,190%
Ventas (VTR)..............................................1,127%
Range Resources (RRC)............................1,124%
Lab Corp of America (LH).........................1,107%
Quest Diagnostics (DGX).............................835%
Chesapeake Energy (CHK)..........................813%
C.H. Robinson (CHRW).................................692%
Varian Medical Systems (VAR)....................677%
Occidental Petroleum (OXY).......................634%
EOG Resources (EOG).................................599%
Express Scripts (ESRX)................................595%
EQT Corp (EQT)...........................................540%
Apache Corp (APA)......................................486%
CONSOL Energy (CNX)...............................486%

(Note: BW restricted the list to S&P 500 members with betas less than 1.)

Posted by Eddy at 8:22 AM | Permalink"

Lots of natural gas stocks there and some biotechs/medical.

about da market

Mostly I play the indexes and oex puts and calls - partly on technicals, partly on my mood - not very scientific I admit but, each to his own.

As I have noted before, the dow was range bound between 7,800 and 8,100 from April 2 to April 28 - a little less than four weeks. And then it was/is range bound between 8,200 and 8,500, from May 4 to May 27 -- again a bit less than four weeks.

Szoo... what next? I dunno. But I think true bears were selling calls like bandits on the Tuesday runup. I considered it myself, but I am far too cautious (trsl: chicken).

I am a cautious man but I have made up my mind: if the DOW drops below 8,200 tomorrow or Friday... I will be buying puts or selling calls (probably selling) - Looking for the big board to retest the March lows.

Comments welcome.

Re: FTWR

CP/VB- Thanks for the props...But of course OCLS ended the day +266%. No complaints, my plan was to sell on the news and I stuck with the plan. I was able to trade it a few times latter for a few shekels before I had to leave.

Now the hard part for TBT. How long before the FED comes out, AGAIN, and issues a statement they will purchase more treasuries. Frankly, I don't think it will be too long.

CP- No magic in the moonshine. The trick is to get the counter party to partake.

UNG- No new news here for me, other than the clock is ticking louder and louder. Now at 70% and thinking of increasing positions size to 125%. Volume sure looks like accumulation to me.

Dave, your the volume Guru. What's your take?

Re: Nuclear War ??

I'd guess the (quite colorful) answer is here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hal_Turner

Re: Nuclear War ?? - not so fast !

Under the anti-proliferation treaty, nuclear powers have a legal obligation to reduce numbers of warheads, which is in return for non-nuclear states staying that way. Of course, the nuclear states have largely ignored their obligation.

A US first strike against North Korea would, IMHO, not be rational. It would send the world the message that "might makes right" and that international law doesn't matter. Why the global sheriff would undermine the law (as Bush did) escapes me.

A first strike against North Korea would likely increase the resolve of all non-nuclear states to go nuclear ASAP.

BTW, who is the "Turner Radio Network"? Do they deserve to be taken seriously? highlighted in this blog?

Credit Cards

Craig- Remember our little discussion on CC's? Well, how's this for a sharp stick in the eye...

My business card is through Advanta. 50K line, paid in full every month, they have NEVER reported my excellent history to the Credit Bureaus (thank you very much) is going belly up. And get this, I've got 4 days before they pull the plug.
What do you think the odds are of getting a replacement line for that amount today?

Re: Nuclear War ??

I'm not too concerned about this yet, although I do know a few south Koreans who probably are.

This article closely mirrors how I understand the subject:

http://tinyurl.com/q99tyq

I don't think it wise to consult Hal Turner for anything, let alone an investment strategy.

Re: Nuclear War ??

And poster is only 3 hours old.
As this site become more popular, we going to see lot more people to come in here and divert our attention to their agenda.

Re: Cool site

BILL!!! THIS IS A SPAMMER!!! SECOND DAY IN A ROW THE SAME ENTRY HAS BEEN POSTED. BAN THE IP ADDRESS....

Ah...please :)

Re: Nuclear War ??

Thank you Vad and Jock,

I never heard of Mr. Turner before but now I know. If he's too hot for Sean Hannity, that says it all.

Re: Interesting....

SAME GUY!! GIVE HIM THE PRIEUR TREATMENT

Re: Interesting....

I second the motion. His first posts or two were confusing. Now its annoying. I did not bite on any of them. Prieur was also tedious and I read his noise for awhile but am glad he is out of here.

Re: Nuclear War ??

well I will have a Ice Tea with that Nuclear War

Seesh...

Is it any wonder I threw my tv and news watching out the door... Lets get serious and have a few ice teas at the beach...

Its life... live it

not fear it or worry over what wont happen...

Re: TOG

To continue the thought....

Interest rates are low, bonds should be go higher but not. No buyers for various reasons, so yield is climbing up.

Where is the money going?
a) not going to bonds
b) not to stocks
c) parked in sidelines?
d) repayment of existing debts & contraction of credit lines, thereby whole pie is shrinking (corporates, hedge funds etc)
e) Also chindia & others turning inwards investing in infrastructure etc to ward off recession there.

more like d) & e) to me

I remember seeing in some movies how they hawked the war bonds in 40s, maybe it will be that kind of a time....

Re: Nuclear War ??

im sick and tired of the non-stop nuclear war propaganda coming from american media, theyve returned to 1950's style bomb-shelter in your backyard-style fear mongering.

Iran is not going to bomb the US, they have no plans to do so, the rhetoric coming from the media is always in response to the same question trick that everyone eats up:

"if you were attacked or were certain of an attack would you strike back",

as a politician you must proclaim to defend your nation and answer yes to a possible attack, but you also must answer yes to the possibility of an impending attack. so the media simply takes it out of context and makes the headline "iran threatens to us nukes against isreal!!" or "iran wont remove nuclear option in a possible attack", even though the article will say near the bottom that it was in response to the question of being attacked, the damage is done. add to that terrorism and bomb experts being asked pointed questions on the news networks like "so if iran was to use the bomb, what possible targets would they hit? new york? chicago? anytown usa??", or the classic "so we know iran is a nuclear armed nation, not afraid to use it as their recent comments indicate, what does this mean for american policy in the region?".

ugh, i dont understand how people dont totally laugh at such attempts to distract us. yes north korea may have set off a nuclear bomb. india did it not too long ago either, and so did pakistan in testing, but people are only worried about the taliban getting their hands on the bombs. as if they would have to take over a nation w/ one of the worlds largest standing armies as opposed to buying WMD's on the black market which have been proven to be floating around. the taliban has no viable chance at taking pakistans arsenal anymore than al-queda did when they attacked the pentagon, the nerve center of the american military. so all the talk about "the taliban are 50 miles from the capital" are hogwash designed to make you think a threat exists that doesnt, at least not at the moment.

none of these states that so many americans think are the "enemy" actually are. most iranians just want a normal life like everyone else, the rhetoric is just the media taking the piss out of everyone as they run around panicking about bombs taht arent going off.

malaria kills more people than bombs and war every year, why no panic for this very treatable and preventable disease for pete's sake!!!?!

lets drop all this pointless nuclear talk driving prices, gold went down after an alleged bomb blast, so lets stop attributing every gold price rise to global instability day to day. its not consistent. golds moving at its own pace.

Re: TOG

Hi Shiva,

I hear differently about D in regards to the hedge funds. Money coming back in. And like a puppy that has strayed away from home, it might just go back to what it knows best...commodities. No other way to explain the price of crude.

"Plan to Buy Banks' Bad Loans Founders"

What a midnight treat for me to read :)
*Make sure to google the headline and click on 1st link for entire article.

http://tinyurl.com/oknf2w

WASHINGTON -- A government program designed to rid banks of bad loans, part of a broader effort once viewed as central to tackling the financial crisis, is stalling and may soon be put on hold, according to people familiar with the matter.

The Legacy Loans Program, being crafted by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp., is part of the $1 trillion Public Private Investment Program the Obama administration announced in March as a way to encourage banks to sell securities and loans weighing on their balance sheets to willing investors.

But prospective buyers and sellers have expressed reluctance to the FDIC ...

Man Creating GOD - "Single-Regulator Plan for Banks Now Close"

All resume applications welcome :)

http://tinyurl.com/q65s5e

Re: ADVANTA MODEL

"When I get offers in the mail, I always try to return the self addressed envelope empty. It's my small way of saying No Thanks!"

I do the same thing (with most junk mail, when I have the energy to do more than rip it up and drop it in the trash can), except I stuff the envelope full of whatever crap they sent me, plus any trash lying around.

Juvenile perhaps, but it makes me feel better...

KC

Re: TOG

Mark,
Yes I should restate d). What I meant there is no bond buying/stock buying/carry trades. Only attractive area is commodity plays & parked cash goes there.

What I learned from 2000 tech bubble is hot money just moves from one asset class to pump up another asset class. Just like it was not tech again, its not going to be real estate but something else. What something else is the million $ question (assuming reflation policy works).

North Korea, Iran, & GM = Market Fulcrums

You have a lunatic (Kim J Il) who has a big gun, who hates S. Korea and U.S.A, withdraws itself from the 1953 armistice. Don't be suprised if our military assets are already there, in addition to the ones stationed in S Korea prior, and ready to move 1st. Nothing like a war to bring together (distract) a financially instable America.

My gut is the situation with North Korea wont just pass like gas. It will need to come out and reach a decisive conclusion. My opinion is that the U.N should ask China to help reach a peaceful resolutionwith N. Korea; China supplies 90 percent of North Korea’s oil demand, 80 percent of consumer goods and 45 percent of its food.

"Alert level raised on North Korea"
http://tinyurl.com/ohb3bz

Worst is yet to come?

Someone should write a song for their children to sing: Gloriously: NY
bankers pass their debt onto the common and slink away from defense of
capitalism, during crisis periods, when capitalism might need a
defender. NY banks then want to privatize their profits. Privatize their gains during the

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good years. Have one bad year in the cycling of
capitalism and there is Paulson as their front man, to unload their
debt onto others.

Re: TOG

Shiva,
Bingo!! It's all about sector rotation. Hedge funds are "scalping" now like some of us. Look at the action in OCLS today. Average volume 30,000 shares. Today, 16.3M. Come on. Don't underestimate the energy play though. This is the real deal LT. We (USA) had a small window to make a difference, and of course, we did nothing. Obama refuses to acknowledge the only possible bridge fuel we have is NG because he dosen't want to offend the left. Sorry, I have to stop. No need to get upset on a good day for me.

2009 outlook

I was googling for deflation/inflation & found this website. Found their short comments & outlook very interesting

http://www.ciovaccocapital.com/sys-tmpl/2009invest...

http://www.ciovaccocapital.com/sys-tmpl/ccmshortta...

Re: Worst is yet to come?

What's with all the span recently?? I've been here a year and remember maybe 5 total.

Re: TOG

i am thinking gold/silver, energy & few high fliers like AAPL. Should start narrowing my focus to these.

Re: TOG

Shiva, If you can get it, CHK looks like a great entry point at 20.00.

Re: TOG

Mark,
Technicals look good. Check out the Jan10, Jan11 option volumes on CHK, something is cooking

Re: Worst is yet to come?

As Vinod said earlier, the price of success. I have for the first time elected to ignore user. How aptly named is that?...user
peace from North Puget Sound

Re: TOG

Shiva, Just did , thanks. I'm working on my options trading and have just been approved by Schwab for advanced options. I think traders are building up their war chests here. And of course I have been doing the same. Still only 1/3 on PXP, HK, CHK, DVN, XTO, APA. 70% UNG, but like I said earlier, I might bump that up to 125%. Even If I increase my e/p guys to 2/3 and UNG to 100%, I'll still be 45% cash.

Just for the record. I own some stocks that I just hold on to. CE, CREE, V, RIMM, HEK (adding still/ was VERY surprised to see this one in the WSJ "adding on weakness" yesterday), SQM, NKE, CLB, BMRN, RGOB, FTWR, ADXM.

Good luck.

So the market dropped did it?

profit taking, or to quote our "beloved leader" (no, not Kym - Obama!), is it change that we can believe in?

Again, media conflating cpi and asset deflation

FRANKFURT -- Germany became the latest euro-zone country to post an annual decline in its inflation rate Wednesday, foreshadowing an expected record low for the euro-zone measure later this week.

German consumer prices fell 0.1% in May from the year before, according to a preliminary government estimate. In April, the annual inflation rate rose by 0.8%. The fall in the measure, which is used to compare price trends across the 27-nation European Union, was sharper than many economists expected...

Economists, however, increasingly have warned that the bloc's deep recession means the threat of deflation -- a prolonged period of falling prices -- is rising.

Great! I'll have my Mercedes yet. My neuroscientist neighbour wants a Porsche. We're willing to suspend our green ideology for a few years for the sake of a good ride ;) It's a buyer's market - cash is king!

Pirates, democracy & invisible "hook" of free market capitalism

Interesting book written by economist who has interest in pirates.

you can tie in the democratic and functioning economic system created by pirates without aid (or more rightly put - interference) of government with the URL I posted the other day about Adam Smith's moral philosophy and the free market. The author of this book on pirates elaborates on how Smith's self-interest works to the advantage of pirates as a community - and he does go into some detail in the interview on the mechanics of a pirate ship's political functioning. Worth a listen

http://www.abc.net.au/rn/latenightlive/stories/200...

I'm coming round to Kaimu's understanding of big, centralised government as a hindrance to the orderly economic (and for that matter, social) functioning of society.

UNG price movement

I still say it looks like accumulation. If you ignore the odd intraday V-shaped patterns, you see small price movement and large volumes. The volume stick 3 days ago was only slightly higher (35M instead of 30M) but the price range was about $1. Today, price range was $0.40, and instead of being a long black candle it's one of those spinning tops - almost a doji.

And don't forget, the RSI is at 31.60.

I'm thinking UNG itself may be a safer buy than the gas E&P companies. They're bid up pretty high. I was trading CHK back when it was 14-20. I'm definitely more comfortable buying when I see that low RSI. I worry here that any market tumble can send those guys off a cliff. I'm waiting for a pullback before I get back into energy.

If I look at the CHK chart in May, I see one of those declining triangles - lower highs, with the lows at 20. It seems to be loosely following the S&P right now. Almost a tombstone doji on the 19th at a failed test of the high of 24, with declining volume since it made its high on March 11th. I have to say, I don't get that warm fuzzy feeling here for CHK.

Re: Pirates, democracy & invisible "hook" of free market ...

ALOHA !!

Les ... So, if you are coming around to that aspect of government then you will surely be onboard with my philosophy of FIAT ... Without a fiat monetary system this kind of government and US FED intervention and control could never have been sustained.

There are 52 weeks in a year and the average work hours of 40 per week, so that totals to annual work hours of 2080. The average American spends 54% of his income on taxation of some sort(income, payroll, excise, sales, property, etc)so that is a total of 1,123 hours we spend working for various government. Thats 28 weeks in governmental servitude!

Then on the other side of that equation you have Obama and the US CONgress spending near $33BIL per day($7.8tril/239days). So far for FY 2009(eight months)this spending has indebted every man, woman and child in the USA with nearly $25,490USD. This also is a tax, a hidden tax, on our future quality of life.

This brings one to the only possible conclusion, which is what Ludwig Von Mises said decades ago ... "Government is essentially the negation of liberty." Of course it is ... How much "liberty" can you have when you spend 28 weeks in servitude while the US government piles $25,490USD of DEBT on top of you at the same time?

What must it cost to intervene in domestic and international markets 25/8?

This is not liberty and little time is left after government servitude to pursue any happiness!

ELIMINATE THE US FED ...
ELIMINATE US INCOME TAXES ...

Re: North Korea, Iran, & GM = Market Fulcrums

Well, certainly if North Korea drops the armistice, that's not a good sign.

But seriously, we aren't going to hit them with anything. A conventional attack could be misinterpreted as a nuclear attack by a confused chain of command and bring about a nuclear response. How can you tell if those cruise missiles executing a "conventional attack" are carrying conventional warheads or nuclear ones? And a nuclear attack on North Korea, well, that's just not going to happen. Nor should it.

We will rely on our standard policy of assured destruction if North Korea does anything nuclear. It would be a terrible tragedy, but one in which North Korea would suffer vastly disproportionately to us. They know this, we know this, etc. Common sense will prevail. We've been out of the cold war business for so long, the press just gets breathless when this sort of thing occurs.

As for ground forces in place: the "8th army" in Korea consists of exactly one infantry division - the 2nd ID. The division's three battalions of armor along with the choppers and air defense are in place in Korea (maybe 200 tanks?), with the rest of the division (Stryker infantry brigades) at Fort Lewis, Washington. It's not a very big force in position. I'd guess in a shooting war, the BCT would hold in place while the rest of the division was flown in from the US. It doesn't sound like a force to go on the offensive with.

I'm also going to suggest that the US taking an offensive action starting a major shooting war in asia, with the bulk of our forces deployed into Afghanistan and Iraq, is also not going to happen. We just don't have the troops for it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2nd_Infantry_Division_(United_States)

I'm guessing N Korea feels they have leverage with us distracted by our market, Afghanistan, and Iraq.

Re: North Korea, Iran, & GM = Market Fulcrums

Funny, I look at Korea's action in an economic sense now, less the military strategy. Bill has forced me to see things differently.

Korea's actions are certainly one way to deflate attempted market based recoveries at the moment.

Looking at Yahoo finance's main page, and those bozos at Fox questioning "how to handle Korea's nukes?" (what, 1, 2, maybe 5 warheads?) and I'm left wondering, who is playing who is playing who?

Keeping global economies in turmoil will certainly help little Kym's drug smuggling, money laundering, counterfeiting and other efforts.

Re: North Korea, Iran, & GM = Market Fulcrums

I think Fox is just trying to sell airtime, and to bash Obama where they think he's weak - national defense, that traditional "conservative" strong point. Ratings always increase during an "emergency."

After thinking about it, I think China likes having North Korea around. That way, Japan, and the US divides focus and is distracted from China itself. I'm guessing the nukes make them uncomfortable, however they'll continue to feed this dog, as long as he keeps barking at Japan, South Korea, and the US.

Also, a divided Korea is much better for China than a unified Korea. Imagine a Korean unification, like when Germany reunited? Initially quite costly for South Korea, but in the long term, it would be quite powerful. So China feeds the dog just enough to keep him alive and barking, but not enough for him to get strong and powerful.

And for North Korea, if they stop barking, why on earth would China keep supporting them? They too have to remain relevant. And with all the fuss going on economically these days, they have to bark really REALLY loudly to be heard. So its nukes and an armistice issue.

And of course the US wouldn't mind a national security distraction right around now. That way PPIP and the GM bailout and the rest of the bailouts could be a "national security" priority. Elizabeth Warren would die of old age before she got another document from Treasury in that case.

Boy, everybody wins!

Well not us, and certainly not the people of North Korea, but - you know what I mean.

Parker Brothers Next?

http://ronsen.blogspot.com/2009/05/where-to-draw-l...

New currency coming?
Distribution (higher volume, lower price) under the radar.
Relative strength (20 and 5 day)
6 by 60 charts

"They're selling make believe and we don't buy that here." - John Rich

silver spot is making a break for its previous high

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Re: North Korea, Iran, & GM = Market Fulcrums

There's no mutual assured destruction policy with n. Korea, these guys can barely splash a missile past Japan, much less hit it. All this missile/nuke rhetoric is Kim's way of getting attention, lest everyone in the world ignore his crappy regime (as it should). If there is a threat from n. Korea, its a ground attack/chemical weapons attack against Seoul, not nuclear technology from the early 1950s.

Re: silver spot is making a break for its previous high

I fully believe, absolutely, that silver at 14 bucks will soon seem like a bargain.

treasury selloff; credit cards; NKorea/Asia;

Yesterday, after the 1pm 7yr auction there was a selloff of long-term treasuries. The 10 year went up 25bp. From the news I reviewed, it says in the 7 year auction $7B was USFed and there was a note that said $5b may have been foreign central bank buying (sorry I don't have that more detailed or reliable). The Fed's ability to shift long-term rate (and mortgages) with funny money may be hitting a wall. (a checkpoint on this will be the next 10 and 30 year auctions on 6/10 and 6/11 respectively)

Checking into that I learned a new term "mortgage convexity" which has to do with mortgage debt holders hedging with long term treasuries. The gist that I got (and I could be wrong) was that the size of the mortgage debt market and the hedging needs (against default, refinances, early payment) makes it a significant factor in long-term Treasury pricing and that that was part of the move after 1pm. Still digesting that.

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Credit Cards/Advanta

I read a good article that talked about how credit cards actually provide two types of credit: transactional and revolving. They make their money on the revolving credit (the idiots who carry balances and pay lots of fees). The likely impact of the credit card bill recently passed will be to make transactional credit more expensive. Personally, all my credit cards are a) no annual fee b) cash back. I expect cash back programs to be cut back severely if not terminated outright. Also raises and in some cases returns of annual fees. I expect to close some infrequently used cards when they send notice of an annual fee.

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North Korea

As was noted on the thread, North Korea is a Chinese cat's paw. However, I think that may backfire big time. I don't mean the apocalyptic scenarios. Japan has already set post-WWII precedent by sending JDF to the Iraqi theatre. Under active consideration now is legalizing weapons exports. The area I saw under consideration was robotics and drones. The huge swing under consideration is for Japan to go nuclear. That is the backfire I'm talking about for China. China wants to be the regional superpower, but NK missiles overflying Japan may extinguish the post-WWII pacifism and lead to Japan militarizing.

Re: silver spot is making a break for its previous high

May 26 (Bloomberg) -- Hedge funds are making the biggest bet in nine months that commodity prices will rise as the global economy rebounds from its steepest slump since World War II.
The Reuters/Jefferies CRB index of 19 raw materials rose 6.3 percent this year, after a 36 percent decline in 2008.

Oil is being driven by hedge funds and maybe Goldman at the moment. Nothing to do with demand or the dollar.

Credit Cards, N. Korea

Mark: I've received two 0 % offers in the last couple days from our debtors at BAC and C. BAC offers me two cards, one with cash back and the other lower rates.

Nukes:
N. Korea, Iran, and who ever else trying to get a nuke know one thing and learn; monkey see, monkey do, from US.

What reason does everyone have to let us get away with all the bullying we do, the currency manipulation (while we accuse China, Japan and Europe) and all the other blackmail?

They want what we have because nukes are more than defense, they are economic weapons of blackmail.

We can no longer ask Saddam, but the leaders of Pakistan and Afghanistan got a snoot full of our sabre rattling after 9/11. After that everyone wants a nuke...er....ACE up their sleeve.

Re: North Korea, Iran, & GM = Market Fulcrums

NYUGrad,

"Nothing like a war to bring together (distract) a financially instable America."

Yes, and I have thought for some time this may be the "solution" likely to be coming. Before WWI it was thought there wold be no war in Europe due to the economic interdependency (see: "The Proud Tower" by Barbara Tuchman). WWII eventually occupied 16 million US citizens, and my dad went from just getting by to a 60 hour work week — solving the unemployment issue of a decade.

Whether Dr Cosa is correct regarding the nuke scares is, in a sense irrelevant. Forty years in advertising convinced me that people react to their perceptions whether real or not.

I see little difference in war or economics where masses of people are concerned. We just had a 40% run-up in the equities market and a huge jump in consumer confidence primarily based on talk and perceived "light at the end of the tunnel" and "things are stabilizing" talk. Very little has been real change — just "Change we can BELIEVE in."

Cara 100 Ratings Changes

Good morning.

GGB - Downgraded to Hold @ Citigroup

New Coverage:

ADBE - Janney Montgomery Scott Initiates Coverage with a Neutral. Price Target = $19

CVX - Collins Stewart Initiates Coverage with a Hold

ERTS - ThinkEquity Initiates Coverage with an Accumulate

PBR - Collins Stewart Initiates Coverage with a Hold

SLB - HSBC Initiates Coverage with a Neutral. Price Target = $62

XOM - Collins Stewart Initiates Coverage with a Hold

Re: Pirates, democracy & invisible "hook" of free market ...

Les, although somewhat off subject, your post reminded me of how Julius Caesar handled pirates. http://tinyurl.com/p3thfr

BTW, did you get the "Parliament of Whores" book? I have had it a long time and your mention of it caused me to start reading it again. Some of the comments are too funny.

Re: North Korea, Iran, & GM = Market Fulcrums

Dave,

I hope we don't, but I remember when Truman announced the "Police Action" in Korea in 1950. We didn't have the troops then either. Most we in Japan Occupation Forces which were late WWII draftees and a few Regulars, had practically no combat experience and were short on weapons and ammo.

Rumsfeld had us invade Iraq with one-quarter the number of troops CENTCOM's ten years of "with-if" planning called for.

(A side comment: Today it is nearly impossible to buy ammo commercially. Where is it going? Remington says they are still producing and working extra shifts.)

another treasury auction

So another treasury auction brings excitement again. Silver has gone through $15, gold is moving up from asia weakness, will today be the day everything falls apart? Gold spikes through 1000, and ... nah, it's not gonna happen.

Unless Dr. Cosa has a second, confirming dream of gold 1107? :)

SanDisk upgrades SNDK

UPDATE 1-RESEARCH ALERT-Goldman Sachs ups SanDisk to buy

Re: Worst is yet to come?

Photogray, I don't think the ignore button will be of much help here as he is creating a new user alias every few days. I also see he is now using a redirect site to hide the URL of that particular site he is trying to send us all to.

Demand for big-ticket manufactured goods soaring!

Here we go again....

Martin Crutsinger, AP Economics Writer
On Thursday May 28, 2009, 8:35 am EDT

Buzz up! Print WASHINGTON (AP) -- The government says demand for big-ticket manufactured goods soared by the largest amount in 16 months in April, the second increase in the past three months.

Read More:
http://tinyurl.com/p69mmx

Re: North Korea, Iran, & GM = Market Fulcrums

Grym - I remember when Truman announced the "Police Action" in Korea in 1950.

Ok buddy, yeah you in that Surplus Russian T-34. Pull it over, and I mean now!

My forces analysis of the 8th Army was simply in response to a post that suggested we might have the combat power on the ground there to bring the trouble to the enemy, Iraq-style, today. We don't. And it would take a decent amount of time to transport all the heavy equipment necessary to form a Big American Army in Korea.

Maybe we have pre-positioned equipment for a division or two apart from the 2 ID. Anyone know?

Interesting about the ammo. After all guns don't kill people - ammo does, right? :)

Re: North Korea, Iran, & GM = Market Fulcrums

Marine forces Okinawa.

Recall US agreeing to withdraw some or all forces to Guam.

http://www.usfj.mil/Links/pacific_bases.html

Austria Taxes Silver Only

Further confirmation of very tight global silver supplies...

Its best cash cow these days appears to be the Austrian Mint who is truly experiencing golden times due to its booming sales of its bullion coins in both silver and gold. All this, while the monetary metal silver is slapped with a 20% value added tax in Austria that defies any logic other than to shy away investors from buying the poor man's gold as an investment.

http://tinyurl.com/on5dkv

Re: Demand for big-ticket manufactured goods soaring!

VB,

"More than 90 percent of economists surveyed by the National Association for Business Economics are predicting that the current recession, now the longest since World War II, will end either in the third quarter or by the fourth quarter of this year."

Unfortunately, this is as much as most people take the time to notice.

(Note: A long standing figure is that 10 times as many people read headlines as read body copy.)

"The strength for durable goods orders in April came in a number of areas. Transportation orders rose by 5.4 percent as orders for motor vehicles and parts jumped by 2.7 percent, the biggest one-month gain since July 2007."

With no mention of actual vehicle count — For some dealers this may have been single digit sales. Dealers here who have been dropped by Chrysler and GM had to accept delivery and sell at up to 25% losses.

The old joke is, "Sure, we're losing a lot on each individual sale, but we'll make it up on volume."

Like you say, "Buzz up!"

Re: North Korea, Iran, & GM = Market Fulcrums

"Ok buddy, yeah you in that Surplus Russian T-34. Pull it over, and I mean now!"

LOL! Thanks, I needed that."

I think the most likely action will be a really nasty letter, but things seem so crazy...

loaded up on UXG @ 2.10

daytrading be damned. If gold spikes at 980 plus today, I'll sell it and replace it with calls.

Re: Demand for big-ticket manufactured goods soaring!

grym,

Yeah, they keep spiking that coolaid precisely at 30 min before the opening bell every day. (right about the time I am thinking to go short).

Netherlands to close prisons for lack of criminals

Cara 100 Update (Final)

JCP - Upgraded from Underperform to Buy at Merrill Lynch/Bank of America. Estimates appear conservative, and the company is executing ahead of plan. $35 price target.

SNDK - Upgraded at Goldman Sachs to Buy from Neutral based on renegotiation of royalty agreement with Samsung. Expect positive revaluation of intellectual property, along with improving NAND fundamentals. Price target raised to $22 from $16.

Re: Netherlands to close prisons for lack of criminals

happy weed for everyone. And they don't get arrested for it.

CTAB trader’s conference call notes

"Or replace stock with calls"
Is there a discipline involved here? For instance the daily rsi is well above 70 yet the monthly is
still well under 70..is this the scenario to book profits and buy calls? Or is it a just more of a current view of the market feeling?
Great work I love hearing the thought process at play.
Thanks

Ten oclock Tumble

Americans fell behind on their mortgages and banks seized homes at a record pace in the fourth quarter as unemployment rose to a 15-year high and real estate values tumbled.

Mortgage delinquencies increased to a seasonally adjusted 7.88 percent of all loans, the highest in records going back to 1972, the Mortgage Bankers Association said today. Loans in foreclosure rose to 3.30 percent, also an all-time high.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&si...

EEV/FAZ- The 2 percent Solution

Two trades, risking only 2% of the portfolio, netted twice what I will make at the day job today, in less than 45 minutes.

EEV- in 21.62, out 22.32
FAZ- in 5.25, out 5.44

Keeping it simple.

Re: EEV/FAZ- The 2 percent Solution

Nice, man. I took the Starship OCLS for 2 more rides today. Shifted all profits to UNG @ 13.56.

UNG has gone bananas!

vertical like a rocket!

GM

On the ticker 5 min. ago: Source claims US Tsy to extend 50Bn and to back Sale of GM Toxic assets...how do you read this "leak"...will it help GM evade BK, stock is at 1.34 now

Re: UNG has gone bananas!

just a little runup into a number that was disappointing...nothing to get xcited @

EDIT FEATURE: (Don't listen to this man...he's got his head up his ...
Wrong more often than right, this "stopped clock" is good for nothing more than winning money from in golf:)

Re: UNG has gone bananas!

http://www.eia.doe.gov/oil_gas/natural_gas/ngs/ngs...

Must have come close to expectations.

$BDI

has been going up in May but not much of action in DRYS etc

Re: Starship OCLS

Warp speed.

been getting long yamana

been getting long yamana

Gold Breaks $960

The gold $960 level has been heavily defended in NY during the past several sessions. Only minutes ago this resistance zone has been pierced. We shall see how this plays out today and where the defenders make their next stand.

decent GLD volume

And gold up +10!

Trailing Stop Loss

Bill mentioned a trailing stop loss to let some of these babies run. Every time I use one I either apply it at the wrong time or set it too tight and get stopped out quick.

Anyone have some pointers or tips?

TIA

KER-CHING!!!

I will NEVER work another day in my life in any other business than this one.

And what a great feeling that is:)

EDIT: Of course, I was totally wrong on the UNG thing but then again I didn't lay any sheckles on the line either. Sorry though for those who may have missed out.

Re: UNG has gone bananas!

Total UNG trade now +2%.

AUY/KGC

Oh how I miss your company...

UNG/HNU.to- Off @ 14.25/$USD 5.65>> Back to 100% cash

Puts me pretty close to break even on the NGas trade I started last Thursday. Next time. Back to 100% cash.

Mad Rush

Back into the longer end of treasuries today, the FED must've twisted some more central bankers arms.

Re: UNG has gone bananas!

Mark- Congratulations- Payoff is always sweet.

Re: AUY/KGC

yep, now we have to wait for a pullback.

Re: UNG/HNU.to- Off @ 14.25/$USD 5.65>> Back to 100% cash

you just missed it 2nd!

edit: ah nooooo I was so close

Re: been getting long yamana

How longs long, shark couple hours,days ,weeks,months.Am rueing selling all my PMs now.

Re: UNG/HNU.to- Off @ 14.25/$USD 5.65>> Back to 100% cash

Alright, permission granted to run it to the moon.
In at 13.60 out at 14.47.

See? 14.88.....maybe a pullback to retrace half the move?

UNG- blow off top

Wow...

Re: UNG- blow off top

That's a forty cent upper shadow on that candle. And the show isn't over yet.
I'm thinking there were some people short who got their stops hit just a little bit.
Or something. Sheesh. Let's hear another chorus of "demand is low,
and the storage units are filling up" please from HB&B. :)

Re: decent GLD volume

Yes Dave it is and i am wondering just how high it will spike, have played this last move with HGU, one of those double funds on the tsx, first time i tried them out and am seriously considering selling here soon, dont want to get greedy and any profit is a good profit. Tomorrow is the last day of the month, funds would like to stay somewhat in the black and i believe that come Monday we could see the reversal that Bill has been talking about.

UNG

The funny thing is the driller/trusts weighted to NG like PGH/PDS getting goosed by the NG #'s and the $USD reversal

Re: UNG

Pressing the bet @ 14.46

Re: UNG- blow off top

watching huge volume spikes before in options activity - mostly written options. On 13 put and 15 call.

Re: Trailing Stop Loss

Re: been getting long yamana

Since calling Vad on the phone and asking him stuff about a year ago, I never hold positions overnight anymore.

Knowing that, I bought this morning when the price movement became clear to me (on a daytrading basis) in the 10.90's.

Of course, I've known that this baby would be good for months now. Where was I the day it went to 3.30-something? Sleeping probably.

Also a fund manager/friend was loading his boat at 7 based on my pestering....Does this earn me a xmas present this year? I'm hoping so...

Gold, Silver, Yamana, Silver Wheaton

WOW!!!! Has sanity gone out the window? Why is the SPX still rallying when we are long overdue for at least a near term correction as low as 835.
And look at gold and silver. Gold is near its resistance of 967, currently at 964 and silver has broken out over 15 with an expected near term top of 16. Consolidation can be expected because I think it is unlikely for a moonshot over the symbolic 1000 gold.
In the mean time I am making tons of money with AUY and SLW, primarily trading multiple times (I am a day trader for sure!!). now that AUY is $11.13 and SLW 9.90, I will not be a hero but simply raise my stop losses to guarantee gains. Retracements intraday (recycles) always happen! Good luck!

Re: decent GLD volume

I just let go my gold at 964. Happy to make 13 points in 4 hours. As long as you can deal with the scalper's regret if it goes moonshot today, just think about the risk you're avoiding by letting it go now!

These days, I'm feeling more comfortable watching price movement, dipping into gold as I see it doing something I recognize, and then bailing out once it reaches resistance. Gold, as Bill points out, is awfully extended, and for me right now, holding paper gold for long is a scary thing. Every day I expect to see it tank by $20 or $30 in one of those "Fed Specials" we had almost daily about a month back.

Re: UNG- blow off top

so where is it going dave?

another spike, or will it find support? I'm holding $15 covered calls on UNG. Wondering if I can be deft enough to sell above my present holding price - 14.76 and keep the covered calls as an early christmas present since opex is another 4 weeks away

XHB

Put on XHB or homebuilders is XXJ SK and is up approx. 55% at 1123 or 11:23 AM

Thanks all for the early morning action around the craps table

Vegas? This is better than Vegas.

Waiting for David to wake up and smell the bacon.

Re: decent GLD volume

Well said Dave. I dont have a problem with the should have would haves though, its just an oppurtunity cost, this is probably the first thing that i learned about trading, there is always another trade just around the corner.

Took profits on SLW and AUY

Stops hit at $11.19 for AUY and $9.96 for SLW. They can run higher but I'll wait for re-entry. Good luck to everyone still holding.

No Daily Chat today

Sorry, I have been busy on other stuff. But I am happy to see the precious metals run-up. Long-term I am very bullish, but at this point I must be careful to protect the gains.

Re: Took profits on SLW and AUY

Me too...took profits on 5-26-09 at AUY $10.64 & SLW $9.3217

I did keep small core positions in SLW,AUY,AEM,GG,KGC

Re: loaded up on UXG @ 2.10/sold 2.21

used silver as my decision maker today, since Twigg's was bullish on it. Thought it would drag gold along. I see consolidation.

Nat Gas Update

Us nat gas injection was 106 Bcf versus expectation of 111Bcf.
Total gas in storage is now 2213Bcf vs. 5yr average of 1820Bcf.

Re: Took profits on SLW and AUY

Hope so... maybe I can still get a shot at AUY, expected a pull back early May, alas it left without me.
FAS ran away from me this morning when I took my eye off it for a minute and now a tropical storm (Ana ) is expected to form off the N.C. coast tonight as a further distraction.

Today's Closing

Will likely close up, but not above open IMO.

OGXI

Near breakout levels today.

Re: UNG- blow off top

Les - I'm holding $15 covered calls on UNG

The candles I see are a "bullish morning star" (more or less) which is a high reliability reversal pattern.

http://www.candlesticker.com/Cs59.asp

If the price action today holds, if this isn't a day trade, just hang on for the ride. Trend reversals are the thing we wait for. I was momentarily tempted to sell that blow off top, but then I remembered just in time I wasn't doing this for a day trade. :)

If you have UNG long, and you're short the calls against it, just let everything stay where it is and pretend you don't have the calls or UNG anymore. Once UNG goes above 15, its as if you've sold that UNG off, although you still are taking risk if it drops below 15. If you hold them to expiration, you'll get the full value from your written options premium.

Or did you buy UNG calls? If you are long UNG calls, well then you're a happy man! If you're in this for longer than a day, hang on for the ride. The candlesticks say, trend change, with a volume confirmation, and last time UNG was in its trend it lasted for - a couple of weeks? And now we've done a double bottom here. Might go for a while. Figuring out when to sell is always a challenge. Watch volume and price action for your clues.

And if the market tanks UNG might follow it. That's my only concern on this trade. "Subject to the performance of the economy."

UNG sold at the loss of a happy meal

UNG $15 calls are now naked, but would rather deal with them than be lumped with UNG for next six months. UNG will have to hit $15.80 before I get laid up with underlying.

I'll take my chances.

Re: UNG- blow off top

Thanks Dave but made the call. I want UNG but have an email from fellow trader here outlining options plan based on bearish outlook these next few months. I'm hoping for reentry into UNG with house money and much cheaper than what it is now.

Prefer to be cash for short term trades. As you suggested, market's gotta take the body blow sooner or later. I'll wait for UNG to come to me.

BAC preferreds?

BACpE.N up 45% today while the common is doing.....?

Re: UNG- blow off top

Hey I totally understand I was close to selling my UNG long also. Longer term means more risk, and plenty is the money I've lost while "holding on for the longer run."

Re: Today's Closing

Hi CP,

Just a word on yield. I was set to go with FXA due to the yield as shown at Yahoo of 5.48, but found it is really only 1.87.

Wonder where they get their number?

I saw it on the internet, so it must be...

Re: Gold, Silver, Yamana, Silver Wheaton

Well, there's always the expression that the markets can stay irrational longer than you can stay solvent ;-) Something that I learnt very painfully and am recovering from that in this trader's market, where return to fundamentals is taking too long for me to profit from. Glad to note that you are managing risk and losses in a more mature way!

TOG

here you go, its already above 100%

http://seekingalpha.com/article/107274-finally-see...

Re: Today's Closing

CP - not sure in what context you meant this. In my looking glass (look at attached pic) there’s an inverse head and shoulder (almost) at around 12 year market bottom levels for the DJIA. It takes a lot of courage to start buying at the low of 6440 and now they have pushed it to around 8300. Also note that since 06 May, when it broke out from the neck, it hasn’t fallen below the neckline. If I am reading the charts correctly we could see 9k+ on DOW. From monthly charts, 50% retracement from the previous significant top should take Dow 9150 levels. Any TA specialists care to validate?

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Re: Today's Closing

Good day Grym - I've been watching FXA out of the corner of my eye, havn't done much/any DD as of yet, just the prelim. Yhoo glance... You didn't say where your data came from but I'd definitely examine the horse's mouth first, might have a broken jaw or need float work. www.currencyshares.com

Looking at the yahoo payout event, it seems you're correct. Assuming the info is correct, the annual distribution is a tad under 1.9% while the reported payout is 5.48%. I wonder how many see the number and believe. Hopefully they do DD first, HA!

2.38% as of today according to the currencyshares web site...

Re: decent GLD volume

Have done same with HGU.to, all out at this point. HGU can provide good returns when you are fairly confident of gold / gold miners' short term trend, but can fall sharply to the downside when trend reverses.

Notice how today's high on HGU so far has come to within 1 cent shy of the previous high of $13.86 set about 10 days ago, before falling back. Am heeding Bill's advice of possible short-term hit to PMs as oversold $USD is defended. If it plays out, I would not expect HGU.to to fall too far, possibly finding support @ $13 based on P&F: http://stockcharts.com/charts/gallery.html?hgu.to.

If / when HUG bounces off $13, I will seek to re-enter on MACD upwards cross. Right now, MACD looking toppish.

** All prices in $CDN

Re: Today's Closing

JTP - I'm not going to argue with your assessment, it seems to contain a reasonably high degree of validity. I'm not convinced today's closing will punch through to 9k+, however. I did my preliminary selling last week just to raise cash in case mean ol' slinky step decline returns. I'm still heavy on the long side, just a tad thinner.

BTW - My preference is observance of the S&P, don't trust that dow 30 basket to the manipulators quite as much.

Good work IMO!

hnu.to What a relief!

Was busy during excitement but sold my lower cost buys at $C $6.50, $6.65, and $6.75, all at a profit. Still holding units bought higher.

Re: UNG- blow off top

RE:>Hey I totally understand I was close to selling my UNG long also. Longer term means more risk

I see the long term promise of UNG but with a small account I need to be wiser than buying so much of any one equity.

I wanted to play a short-term bounce as initial reason to trade. I see that I bought way too early. Took the opportunity to get out and keep powder dry. Still waiting for a decent reversal in S&P.

Re: decent GLD volume

Frenchy, I prefer to use the technicals of the individual companies that comprise the HGU, they can be found at Horizons on the net, rather than those of the fund itself cause i find that due to decay it is difficult to get a good read, they all seem to move pretty much in tandem.

Re: Today's Closing

If you read the footnote for the yield of FXA on the Yahoo page, you will see that the 5.48% is based on the closing price for March 31. Way misleading.

Re: been getting long yamana

Thanks for your explanation Shark about your time frame for being long, I am waiting for a better entry point to get a truelly long position on AUY and others,I am being disciplined and waiting for the price to come to me again, which it will at some point.Being disciplined and sticking to my plan for trading is the hardest part,resisting chasing prices of stocks and commodities but I will wait as my account is,nt really setup for day trading .I have printed out and pinned to the wall next to my monitor this phrase below , I am sure many have seen it before ,but it is so true,I will not be HB&Bs fool.

"What beat me was not having brains enough to stick to my own game — that is, to play the market only when I was satisfied that precedents favoured my play. There is the plain fool, who does the wrong thing at all times everywhere, but there is also the Wall Street fool, who thinks he must trade all the time."

~ Jesse Livermore

high speed low drag S&P

Boy that was a high volume, high speed move in SPY. Did someone around here push "buy"?

Let me look at the headlines to see if I can find out why:
* General Motors Said to File for Bankruptcy Protection June 1 After Losses
* Mortgage Delinquencies, Foreclosures Rise to Records in U.S. Amid Job Cuts
* U.S. Durable-Goods Orders Hovered Near Lowest Level in 13 Years in April
* Visteon, Metaldyne File for Bankruptcy as Automakers Cut Orders for Parts

No, those are all bad news. Wait let me look at a different news service.

1:03:29 PM * US sells 26 bln in 7-year notes at high yield of 3.30 percent.

Hooray! A normal auction!! It's time for a rally! Almost as exciting
as a consumer survey indicating people might buy something in 6 months!

UNG/Producers -TA Comparison

Upon examination of the various charts and comparing the product charts against the producer charts, it appears to me that producer valuations are more predictable than the product. I've noticed the same is true for GLD vs. GDX as well. Just my observations, anyone is welcome to blow holes in this theory. ;)

FXA

Speaking of FXA once more, I've also had my eye on DBV. For the record.

Gold and Gas

A nice day for trading. Took a quick profit on the HNU.TO train, then just sold the YRI I've been accumulating for a while. A respectable 3% and 12%.
Looking for a long term position on YRI when it retreats.

Re: high speed low drag S&P

"1:03:29 PM * US sells 26 bln in 7-year notes at high yield of 3.30 percent."

I'm pretty sure the primary focus is on the monetary crisis(trade imbalance normalization) at hand, the housing.auto.mfg.bomb stuff are second, third, fourth...n order harmonics.

http://www.entrepreneur.com/tradejournals/article/...

$USD

Using UUP as a dollar proxy, it appears we are actually in the 4th day of a very gradually sloping uptrend for the $USD. It looks to be retracing a huge dollar plunge and subsequent chart gap that occured last Thursday. I am keeping my eyes peeled as to how the $USD acts as this gap is closed. If we see it close the gap and run higher, I think it could act as the pin-prick that pops this rally and sends us below that S&P 875 inflection point.

Consequently, should the $USD retrace the gap and then reverse and begin to weaken, the rally should continue and perhaps retest the recent S&P 920-30ish area (I find this scenario less likely but am not ruling anything out in these markets!). Feels to me like we are just in the exhaustion stages of the short squeeze where those who were early to short the market are getting chewed up and spit out on fast hard up moves that quickly teeter out.

USD>AUD>ASX UPDATE

ALOHA!!

I do not post any trades much, simply because I am not doing any trades so why post? Since JAN 2009 I have bought nothing but PPs. I have not even bought gold or silver(last big buy was at $904USD in 2008). From Oct 2008 to now I have only done twelve(12) open market trades and all were on the ASX. Keepin' it simple ... not one of those dodgy sexy beasty types! Oh, behave-e-e ...

Latest update on CTAB Conference 2009 ASX stock pixs I presented on regarding the topic "ASX INVESTING". These two companies are my core ASX holdings.

Since first mentioned at Cara blog ...
SRL = 230%+
SLR = 390%+

Since CTAB Conference 2009(March 2009) ...
SRL = 140%+
SLR = 190%+

Here are the mechanics of my trades ...

SRL = 60,000 shares @ $0.70AUD (closed on 5/27 $1.71AUD)
SLR = 200,000 shares @ $0.17AUD (closed on 5/27 $0.60AUD)

This was a total of 6trades(5 ASX and 1 FX) ...

The SRL payout for the PTT 60% JV on SBI was set at $0.50AUD per share in SRL news release. I calculated it at $0.40AUD per share. I have yet to see a dividend, but I hope I am wrong and it is paid at the $0.50AUD!

All totalled a paper gain of close to $195,000AUD(stock,FX and PTT)or $152,000USD, in seven months on 6 trades. This happened when gold was flatlining, base metals were skewered, the DOW and NASDAQ tanked, the USDX was in rally mode and all the fiat chasers were running for cover into US DEBT!

I worked the monetary arbitraqge trend of USD>AUD>ASX. I waited and bought these companies close to their all time lows. I bought what I considered solid companies based on management and projects, two producers, both exposed to gold. SLR is a 100% gold producer. SRL is a coal, gold and copper producer.

We flew Qantas(plus Indian Pacific) to Perth, Western Australia in Jan/Feb 2008 where I met with the company execs. I began my research then as I was getting tired of the TSX mentality and wanted to take advantage of any USDX rally. I think I was the only American flying out of Honolulu, Hawaii on that day in Jan 2008 with the idea to meet Perth, WA mining execs and buy the ASX so I can get out of the USD. I only met one American on the Indian Pacific train from Sydney to Perth and he was a Army infantry Srgt. based in Iraq. No, we did not talk ASX! Once I got to Perth I met no Americans at all for the rest of the trip.

I have not sold any of my shares in SRL or SLR yet ... Knowing the management, I expect their company fundamentals to improve from here, so that is why I am not selling.

Re: $USD

Interesting chart. UUP had another one of these bottom-looking events May 11th. That didn't go so well. However weekly RSI shows 30.66 along with daily RSI at 32.4 and rising. It sure could be as you say. I think I'll watch this one too. :)

UUP: comprised entirely of USDX futures contracts, which are designed to replicate the performance of being long the US Dollar against the following currencies: Euro, Japanese Yen, British Pound, Canadian Dollar, Swedish Krona and Swiss Franc.

Re: EEV/FAZ- The 2 percent Solution/ Double-dip?

Mark- Thinking about it. But it's not Baskin- Robbins...so will likely await (a) the close, or (b) tomorrow for a better read.

mish reports: mortgage market locked up yesterday

Actually, he's just forwarding a message from one of my favorite guys, Mr. Mortgage (Mark Hansen). No consumer surveys get him excited, only real data:

"With respect to yesterday’s episode in the mortgage market -- yes, it is as bad as you can imagine. Yesterday, the mortgage market was so volatile that banks and mortgage bankers across the nation issued multiple midday price changes for the worse, leading many to ultimately shut down the ability to lock loans around 1pm PST.

Lenders that maintained the ability to lock loans had rates UP as much as 75bps in a single day.

A good friend in the center of all of the mortgage capital markets turmoil said to me yesterday “feels like they [the Fed] have lost the battle...pretty obvious from the start but kind of scary to live through it ... today felt like LTCM with respect to liquidity”.

http://globaleconomicanalysis.blogspot.com/2009/05...

According to Mish: the 5.5% rate is pretty much for the "perfect borrower" with a FICO score of 740 or higher and a 20% down payment. Jumbos are hovering near 8% with 1.5% points.

Loannetter - can you confirm?

Re: USD>AUD>ASX UPDATE

kaimu - Those are some very nice trade results, I do enjoy such posts. Congratulations!

Re: mish reports: mortgage market locked up yesterday

True, This was a result of extreme weakness in the long end of the treasury market.

FXA, FAX

Gyrm--"I was set to go with FXA due to the yield . . . "

I didn't buy it for the yield when I picked it up back aways. Considered the monthly cash distribution a bonus.

If you're looking for something with yield in other than $USD, you might want to try FAX which is a closed end fund. Haven't checked the NAV but a quick glance shows presently near 70 daily rsi7. It is an Asian-Pacific income fund mostly from Australia, New Zealand. Decent monthly yield.

No present position. DOYDD

TLT a buy??

Looking at this strictly from TA of candlesticks & volume, I see the first two of a three-candle pattern called a "bullish unique three river bottom" from price action in TLT.

http://www.candlesticker.com/Cs57.asp

Massive volume would serve to confirm the bottom, much as it did in UNG earlier this week.

Perhaps this would be an entry point for aggressive traders today?

Or at the very least, think about letting go of your TBT. :)

FD: no position

sold some PNP.TO

A sell limit order was hit this morning at US$2.14 for the shares of PNP.TO I purchased at US$1.14 in September 2008 (the cash I received today for selling these shares was 1% of my portfolio). Sometimes my trades have a LONG holding period. :) I still have about 5% of my portfolio in PNP.TO at the average cost basis of around US$2.80. This was the case when averaging down did work out for, but only because PNP.TO is a fund and does not have a single company risk. For most of my other Canadian juniors averaging down did not work out yet, as they are all still significantly below my initial purchase price. In the future I will try to make sure that I average down only in large cap companies (which reflect performance of a whole sector) or in sector ETFs, which eventually always rebound, unlike small risky companies.

Major Greenshoots in Gold Stocks

Now I know what Bernanke was speaking of...

http://tinyurl.com/l2e6jm

Re: mish reports: mortgage market locked up yesterday

I believe this is a significant event and more repercussions will follow. One can see the significance of that on the $TNX chart, as the RSI(21) crossed 70%. Last time it happened was 2 years ago in summer 2007. Incidentally, both TED and LIBOR started rising with their RSI(21) bouncing back from 10!
I don't see how Fed is going to fight that rise in rates short of temporary tightening and producing a mini deflation.

Re: Thanks all for the early morning action around the craps ...

"Waiting for David to wake up and smell the bacon."

:)

My joy over this rally has been muted, as I have almost completely hedged myself with the FCX short and with SKF a couple of weeks ago. My portfolio grew maybe only a few percent over the past couple of weeks (despite my long positions making large advances).

I am going to Moscow tomorrow with my family to see our parents, and will then present a paper at a conference in Dublin, coming back on June 22. Until then, I probably won't have the time to read carefully through this blog and post many comments. I hope the market pleases our community in the next few weeks! :)

Re: No Daily Chat today

Bill,

Thanks again for your perspective on POG and miner prices in current markets. I'm no T/A or chartist but Kitco is telling me that 30 and 1 year POG is up 7.35% and 6.57% respectively. Meanwhile the 30 day and 1 year percentage increases are +26% and +5% for Goldcorp. Simple logic suggests that the 30 day run-up in GG may have more to do with the 30 day run up in the $CDN than anything else. Being what you have described as a swing trader my gg ( G, actually ) was just sold. Now if Palladium would just get some of the respect it is due.....

Re: TLT a buy??

Not from my perspective, TOG is still in play. I could be wrong, but I'm staying away from falling knives until a trend develops.

Re: TLT a buy??

I hear you CP. I thought the TA was saying something, but I couldn't bring myself to execute. Maybe wait for the reversal to make itself felt - that third candle tomorrow. Maybe even a fourth. :)

Re: Moscow/Dublin

"I am going to Moscow tomorrow with my family to see our parents, and will then present a paper at a conference in Dublin, coming back on June 22."

David- Both of which are highly important parts of (your) life, much more so than trading. Enjoy your trip!

slowly recovering...

from my disastrous performance since opening an IB account.

Bill's TOG is god's gift to fools like me.

See UNG is on the up - for how long? suspect answer lies with market as Dave remarked.

night all.

Re: TLT a buy??

CP,

I guess that is why there is a market. From my perspective TOG is a wonderful, exciting concept. On the other hand, TOM ( Trade of the Month ) is reality for me. I only hope to do more winners where it is possible to have a return of a little under 20% in about a month on a quality company I can afford to hold onto for the longer term if the trade goes against me. I still have "dead money" stocks that are in the "non-performing" category but the overall net return on my portfolio is still far in excess of indexes, most managed-money taking measured risk, etc. I'm still using trading profits to pay down mortgage debt and am on track with my personal goal time horizon. To the hard core traders out there it may not make a lot of sense to use capital returning over 15% to pay down debt costing over 5% but there you have it - the overriding need to be debt-free and answerable to nobody but the guy in the mirror. It works for me.

Re: been getting long yamana

Yeah it would have been a good idea buying and holding much lower in hindsight but I sleep a WHOLE LOT better being flat each night.

Re: TLT a buy??

"To the hard core traders out there it may not make a lot of sense to use capital returning over 15% to pay down debt costing over 5% but there you have it - the overriding need to be debt-free and answerable to nobody but the guy in the mirror."

I am one of the "little people", rather than a hard core trader, but it sure makes sense to me. The peace of mind with being debt free is worth more that a somewhat higher rate of return.

I traded for the TOG, because I don't have the talent to trade as often as some. At one time, I had lost 2/3 of the amount in my trading account at January 2008. While not happy over that, I lost no sleep, because I had no debts. Today, for the first time in more than a year, I am back to my Jan 2008 amount and slightly above. I was able to hang in there, because I really believed the PMs would return and I was not under intense pressure to recover the amount.

Re: Today's Closing

Illini, CP,

FXA: Yes, I noticed that after going to both Big Charts (1.87)and Currency.com (2.38)

The footnote is way too small for these old eyes. I will be careful using yahoo from now on. Better still - search for footnotes at each.

Re: FXA, FAX

Thanks, Seamus, I'll check it out.

Re: TLT a buy??

It's all in a day's work, I have no debt and plan to keep it that way. If you can trade the market on a daily basis and make money doing it, then your timing is probably better than mine. I don't think I could make that work to my advantage, my time horizon is on the order of a week, minimum and months on the average. We'll see how it works out, I caught all of the upside this year because against my better judgment I caught too much of the downside scaling in last year.

I'm improving my skills, but there's one heck of a lot of competition from traders much better and more experienced. I make no mistake about it, no delusions of grandeur.

Re: Today's Closing

Grym, You know what Albert Einstein said, and it's quite true. I'll just add that research is the DD we all must perform as part of the decision making process.

Let us know what you decide, might tag along for the ride.

gold

so gold closed down today but goldminers are up. Is it to do with silver being up?

Re: TLT a buy??

TerryC - To the hard core traders out there it may not make a lot of sense to use capital returning over 15% to pay down debt costing over 5% but there you have it - the overriding need to be debt-free and answerable to nobody but the guy in the mirror.

Terry, I'm a trader, and I'm also debt free. I totally understand what you mean. Something in me has always hated debt. If you can use your trading profits to pay down your debt, I say that's awesome.

Re: TLT a buy??

CP - "my time horizon is on the order of a week, minimum and months on the average." --- "I'm improving my skills, but there's one heck of a lot of competition from traders much better and more experienced. I make no mistake about it, no delusions of grandeur."

That pretty sums up my feeling. I would like to make money, preferably even lots of money, but if I don't, it won't keep the fish from biting. lol

Re: gold

Shiva - "gold closed down today but goldminers are up."

I seem to remember spot gold a bit lower this time yesterday, by about $10 or so...

Re: gold

my bad. $GOLD is not updated yet in stock charts. It did go up today.

VNDA

Vinod,

Good job on the VNDA trade this morning.

A Matter of Financial Security

I just found this:
By Ian Mathias

05/28/09 Baltimore, Maryland The government has released Treasury documents surrounding Oct. 13, 2008 — the day the U.S. government launched TARP. After a long battle between Judicial Watch and the Obama administration, the government has finally coughed up some details of the infamous meeting between the Treasury and the heads of the U.S.’ biggest and most troubled banks. Oh, my… take a seat for this.

First and most interestingly, the documents show that Former Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson gave the nine bailed-out banks NO CHOICE but to accept the government’s cash-for-equity deal. “Your firms need to agree,” his talking points read. “If a capital infusion is not appealing, you should be aware that your regulator will require it in any circumstance.”

What’s more, there’s all kinds of ridiculous Gestapo-style secrecy surrounding the meeting. Treasury officials asked for Secret Service assistance to keep the press in the dark. The White House launched a PR campaign to crush public fears of bank nationalization. And the coup de grace: In all the released documents, all remarks by current Treasury Secretary Tim Geithner are either censored or missing. After all, they have to protect their golden boy.

“How is it,” asks our executive publisher, Addison Wiggin, unable to resist, “that the Treasury secretary, chairman of the Fed and their minions have risen to the level of national security that the military has traditionally claimed?”

http://tinyurl.com/kpxp68

wallstreet...

do realize that there are

Re: wallstreet...

Another day, another new alias and another redirect link to that same website. SPAMMER !!!

My kind of OT

"At one time, I had lost 2/3 of the amount in my trading account at January 2008. While not happy over that, I lost no sleep, because I had no debts. Today, for the first time in more than a year, I am back to my Jan 2008 amount and slightly above. I was able to hang in there, because I really believed the PMs would return and I was not under intense pressure to recover the amount."

OT- Now that's inspiring! I'm going to down a cold one in honor of your perseverance- congratulations.

Re: My kind of OT

2nd
Forcing trades is not usually a good recipe for success and, I am still looking convincing break out or break down within this range
Brought EEV at 21.40 and SRS at 20.70 near closed. What shark is talking is about my trade of VNDA at reality trader. I wants to keep that one separate from here but don’t have control over shark. And information there is public information.

Re: A Matter of Financial Security

johnuk - "the documents show that Former Treasury Secretary Hank Paulson gave the nine bailed-out banks NO CHOICE but to accept the government’s cash-for-equity deal."

This has been the word on the streets and in the news for weeks, if not months now. HB&B has managed to perpetrate the largest scam in history, if these banks didn't want or need the bailout funds then why are they now having difficulty repaying these apparently interest-free loans? Massive losses from the housing debacle scam (+ who knows what else) they lobbied through congress have been offed onto the public debt until they can scrounge enough to "repay". I'm reasonably certain there won't be much if any of the normal tax receipts paid in to the treasury during this period.

I'm prepared for a mean period of currency devaluation with perfect knowledge the opposite could occur if the recovery effort "fails".

All this leveraged phony money was used to buy extravagant items and support a lifestyle beyond the magnitude of actual value creation.

Re: My kind of OT

Vinod- True. I just finished scrolling through the trading log there- sounds like a good place to learn your chops. I've been taking Vad's advice about taking a piece of the 'middle' of each move. I've been trading just 1-2% of the portfolio in short time increments, and making money consistently. Rather than (trying to) rake in 5 figures on a trade, I'm taking in 3 figures several times a day, and over the course of a week it adds up. Also cutting losses immediately should the move prove to be misread. Guess I'll keep doing this until a clearer trend emerges.

Peter Zezel

http://www.tmlfans.ca/leafs-news/1800-peter-zezel-...

I never knew Peter Zezel, but I know several people who did. They all said the same thing that to know him was to experience the best that life offers. He gave all he could to others. I'm commenting only because it is constant on my mind how much we owe to others less fortunate. At some point we'll be gone, and hopefully the next wave will do an even better job in our struggle for social equity.

Tonight -- as I do every night and day in a similar form -- I received the following letter from one of you:

"Thank you Bill for what you do. You have made a difference for me in investing. Last year I was able to take three months off in the summer from my job ‘without’ pay. And this year I will be leaving my employer at the end of June. Lot's of free time for the next two years ( a sabbatical) to study the markets, and maybe not return to work forever."

No matter how much you think you know about me, you cannot begin to understand how much letters like this mean to me. Thank you is all I can say. Life's not perfect; but, I do what I can because this blog is important. I thank the contributors so much for helping. Thank you.

This is about our struggle for freedom.

Re: wallstreet...

Quasi, the spamming starting a day or two ago. always a valid e-mail address that people can set up for a one-time spam. We may have to change the program here to stop mail to approve the first two or three comments.

Re: wallstreet...

"We may have to change the program here to stop mail to approve the first two or three comments."

It's always my goal to share knowledge through discussion and example, for knowledge and ability to apply working knowledge empowers those who will ultimately win the war for social equity. I don't concern myself with the possibility of empowering someone who may not contribute to the cause, my belief is they are a minority.

Re: EEV/FAZ- The 2 percent Solution/ Double-dip?

2nd- Guessing you stood pat. If forced to choose, I'd be more comfortable long than short right now. Other than UNG and a little adding to TBT a few days ago, just scalping right now. Re- UNG; look at the markets reaction to a little "crack" in the dam. I erred on my return in the previous post. Cost Basis now 14.20. (Remember, I still had 1/3 of the original trade @ 13.38). Also have about 1/3 house money in.

Looking For a Bottom… and

Looking For a Bottom…
and Considering the Recovery
http://tinyurl.com/n5le6f

Re: $USD

BillySundance,

Find your analysis quite valid, especially the 'pin-prick that pops this rally'. Sure enough $USD closed slightly higher today for the 3rd day in a row, as MACD makes a slow turn upwards towards a bullish crossing. It is clearly being defended at the 80 cent level.

Confirming analysis is here, from http://www.dailyfx.com/:
http://www.dailyfx.com/story/bio1/US_Dollar__Japan...

A revision to the GDP numbers tomorrow could spark a rush out of equities back to safe-haven $USD. It is frightening that they can play with these numbers to sway the markets on cue.

Excerpt below:

'Looking ahead to Friday, the second round of US Q1 GDP estimates are due to hit the wires, and the results could be market-moving. The preliminary reading is forecasted to be revised up to -5.5 percent from -6.1 percent, which also marks an improvement when compared to the Q4 2008 result of -6.3 percent. There is some evidence that revisions will be to the downside, though. First, the US trade deficit widened for the first time in eight months during March by 5.5 percent to $27.6 billion. A breakdown of the report showed that exports slumped 2.4 percent to a more than two-year low of $123.62 billion while imports fell 1.0 percent to $151.196 billion. According to Bloomberg News, the Commerce Department used a much larger increase in exports when calculating Q1 GDP, suggesting that initial estimates of a 6.1 percent annual contraction may have been optimistic. Also, personal consumption is forecasted to be adjusted to 2.0 percent from 2.2 percent after March advance retail sales were revised down to -1.3 percent from -1.1 percent.

Overall, risk appetite has been on edge, and when looking to daily charts of the major US equity indices, it looks like there is some bearish potential as both the DJIA and SPX have established a set of lower highs, while clear support looms below at 8,250 and 880, respectively. Indeed, a break below those noted support levels would signal further losses, and may also suggest that safe-havens like the US dollar and Japanese yen are in for gains.'

A taxing question

A question for those familiar with the US tax code, or even may have been in a similar situation.
I sold the "Rights" issued on my PDS - didn't want to increase my position. So is this treated as ordinary income, a change in my PDS basis or ???

TIA
Chris

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