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Cara's Commentary & Community Chat, Wednesday, Jun 10, 2009

[6:24am ET] The US Treasury Department will be receiving repayment of about $68 billion in bail-out money. Whether or not an associated $5 billion in warrants will be collected is another issue. Humungous Bank & Broker (HB&B) is now saying they didn’t need these funds in the first place and the government made them take it.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124455528999797923.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

The mind boggles at the lack of ethics that exists on Wall Street and in Washington.

The TARP has been a real eye-opener for Americans. I believe that many Americans are now thinking to themselves 'what's good for the goose is good for the gander' which will be bad for the banks. I feel HB&B will take many years to recover from their loss of reputation and business that will come from this.

Have a great day.


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Gap and Run or Pop and Drop?

Re: Gap and Run or Pop and Drop?

Thanks, Ron. That pretty much sums it up. Sitting on the sidelines was good advice.

Patience in the market resembles discretion on the street. Rules in a knife fight=knife rules, so stay out if you're not committed. Improvising with a broken glass bottle has become impossible with the advent of the return deposit- good luck finding one amidst the aluminum and plastic.

Sidelines

Sitting on the sidelines sounds good. I might get out of a few trades today and take the rest of the week off until Tuesday of next week. Bill said it is good to take a break and recharge the batteries. I don't know how much rest I will get, but I am heading to Bonnaroo tomorrow for 4 days of music for a change of pace.

The Cara Bahamas 2010 Conference at Grand Bahama also looks like a great change of pace for me early next year.

Holding only SPY right now, will sell it pre-market shortly to go 100% cash.

Don't I wish...

Bill,

While your following comment is certainly fitting for those who come here daily, I'm afraid this is not so with the vast majority.

"The TARP has been a real eye-opener for Americans."

As I wrote in response to the George Carlin transcript of "The Club" — we are far too involved with daily problems and trivia to effect any real revolt or change to this well planned and executed controlling force.

As for the conclusion —

"I feel HB&B will take many years to recover from their loss of reputation and business that will come from this."

— they will have their (our) money to keep them warm. And then pull the next scam. Memories are short in America.

Wooow

"I believe that many Americans are now thinking to themselves 'what's good for the goose is good for the gander' which will be bad for the banks."

Interesting you say this.... This video supports that statement.

http://tinyurl.com/nhccyy [Warning has foul language]

Made by one upset American about the state of the US economy. At least watch the last 60 seconds of this video. He receives a Discover Card in the mail. He buys $700 worth of food and the rest of it he buys gold [from bulliontrust.com]. Then he tells you what he plans to say to them when they call him about repayment. What brings this video home is I also know people who are running up their credit cards with no plans of paying it back.

"Our Lucaya" ...very nice... I better hit the gym now.. I will have only 6 months to get into my thong bathing suit. [Kidding]...I hope to be there!

Re: Wooow

Bev- No worries- we all love you for your mind ;)

Cara 100 Ratings Changes

Good morning.

DB - Upgraded to Neutral @ JP Morgan

Downgrades:

FSLR - to Hold @ Soleil
NUE - to Hold @ KeyBanc

Price Target Raised:

INFY - from $32 to $36 @ Kaufman Bros. Hold

Re: Wooow

Aaaaaaaaaaahhhhhh! My morning laugh from 2nd. Thank you!

The 10 banks seeking to

The 10 banks seeking to return government money will be able to continue leaning on the U.S. government in other ways, including by issuing debt guaranteed by the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp
Well, they return bail-out money but can't issue debt on their own. It’s all ponzy schemes

Covered Short in SLM pre-market, letting WNR run today.

Cutting my losses - letting a more substantial trade in WNR do its thing.

Wrote some puts on KGC and SLW following recent weakness in POG. Cashing in "IF the price is right!" (u had that gameshow in the US?).

PAL is holding. Looking to add on dips.

$USD/Commodities

What are the odds the dollar drops back to the low seventies/commodities return near last summer's highs?

It was deflationary fears for several months, and now inflation is back in the headlines.

Re: Wooow

That was quite a video Bev.

I think that guy is Cramers worst nightmare. They should get him a slot on Fox business t.v. or something!

Re: Don't I wish...

Bill said - "I feel HB&B will take many years to recover from their loss of reputation and business that will come from this."

Grym - I'm pretty sure this subject depends on economic hardship. Don't forget, Americans aren't likely to enjoy giving up lifestyle and the list of public offenders consists of: 1) Bush administration, 2) Political elite, 3) Lobyists, 4) Corporate executives 5) HB&B.

The previous Capitol Hill administration were military extremists to begin with, and apparently knew nothing or were complacent about economic matters. Perhaps they trusted America's economy to a privatized cartel(the FED) and the current administration is making the same mistake?

They all were caught with their pants down.

We'll see about how long the memories linger, I'm pretty sure those humongous soccer mom SUV's running on $4 gasoline will serve as a constant reminder for American voters.

Re: Wooow

Well he said it all... WOW and we are worried about folks from other lands! I had to pause it and freshen up my coffee and re start...

SQNM

shark- Happened to notice it was bidding @ 5.60 90 minutes ago, now @ 5.11.

Re: Gap and Run or Pop and Drop?

Gap and run, sucking in more victims for next week's options expiration.

Re: SQNM

'Tis true, dear 2nd, this morning was, alas, a bodacious selling oppty.

I will be watching it for a new upmove, but it may take a little while.

BTW 2nd, I miss you here during the days...you really need to tell your boss to shove it and stay home full-time so you can trade with us.

Did you hear the news about North American Palladium? Put it on your watchlist as a long:)

"Money never sleeps pal!...Greed is good....I gave you Darien...I gave you your manhood!....Sandbagged me on Bluestar, huh?....that the tail could wag the dog...?...So the falcon's heard the falconer....."

"Gordon, all I want, and I've never asked you for ANYTHING, is to be your co-pilot on this one..."

my first pre-market trade! :)

Hi All,

I have just connected a DSL service at my temporary place in Russia, and now I can watch the market at the very unusual time for me -- before it opens! Unfortunately, I won't be able to observe the most important hour -- the final hour... In any case, I have just bought some more UNG at $14.24, following Bill's observation about oil moving into 70's implying that UNG cannot be far behind. In the current overbought market UNG is the only item on my radar that is not overbought. So if we are now at the beginning of a new huge move up in commodities, then UNG should perform very well starting from these levels near its all time lows (many other commodity stocks have doubled or tripled since their lows).

Re: Wooow

BillySundance & FireFly

Did you see the last 60 sec? What struck me is he bought gold. My post man told me he and some of his fellow workers have also bought gold over the past several months. Wonder if this is an early warning gold may tank in the near future? From TV ads to the post man the talk is you must own gold.

Re: my first pre-market trade! :)

Agreed David, but US natgas is particular in that it is a local market and storage is rapidly filling, with now where to stock the stuff afterwards. Some of those banks might have made out with filling tankers full of oil, to sell off into present prices, but if the US doesn't actually consume Natgas in sufficient quantities, as someone here pointed out, they'll have to give the stuff away.

Nonetheless, a good spike in prices is certainly a possibility.

edit: I'd perhaps wait until tomorrow. Further news of overproduction is likely to create a fairly vicious spike downwards tomorrow, which might be advantageous as an entry point.

Re: Wooow

Bev, you should have also warned against racism as well. Watch out if good ol' boys like this get completely convinced by Rush and O'Reilly that their problems are the responsibility of "the minorities".

But he hits a note of truth in the beginning when he rants about good-paying manufacturing jobs being replaced by minimum-wage jobs at Walmart. That, in a nutshell, is the most pressing problem facing this country.

Re: Wooow

Sorry... I lumped everything under foul language....

Re: my first pre-market trade! :)

David- Well, you can look forward to Thursday's NGas inventory report at 0730 PST.

Re: Wooow

He also mentioned being in the eye of a hurricane, must be one big hurricane with a matching eye.

Re: Wooow

yes and I know many folks in my neck of the woods buying gold coins and such to have as well. More and more American's are getting on the Buy Gold Bandwagon here..

But hey, the banks are doing okay ...

http://www.contracostatimes.com/localnews/ci_12547...

Some local news about the ramifications of disastrously incompetent government.

Inverse H&S

Bev,
Before you "left" there was a brief discussion about the inverse H&S in gold and how an inverse H&S should occur after a decline. Well while you were away someone posted a link of Louise Yamada discussing the same formation you saw, and she described it as a very rare CONTINUATION pattern - i.e. bullish.

Re: my first pre-market trade! :)

2nd, what time is that report due in, in relation to EST?

PAL

Long PAL on the re-opening of their mine (scheduled for january IF palladium is over 300/z.

Re: Wooow

No need to apologize, Bev. Thanks for the link.

Re: my first pre-market trade! :)

Re: Inverse H&S

ChrisM

Thanks for the info... I will go back into the archives and pull up the discussion.

Re: my first pre-market trade! :)

"Agreed David, but US natgas is particular in that it is a local market and storage is rapidly filling, with now where to stock the stuff afterwards."

At the same time, the price chart of UNG shows that the long-term decline has stopped, and the highs and lows since late April have formed a wedge, which I think will break out to the upside and run away.

Re: my first pre-market trade! :)

technicals vs. fundamental hey? Indeed, I did see a chart showing huge reflation in natgas during an earlier recession (90's, 80's?) - a very impressive chart. If there is a bubble in energy, I'll ride that train until it pulverises its passengers.

PAL

Buy that Palladium folks...The Russians are gonna start minting it, the Chinese are gonna probably buy the mine, and they're gonna re-open in January. This COULD be the investment of the ....CENTURY!(not to hype it or anything)

Re: Inverse H&S

Better yet Bev, straight from the horses mouth.

http://watch.bnn.ca/trading-day/june-2009/trading-...

Gold

This market is just not letting it gather any steam, tried to force a day trade yesterday with HGU.to and got stung, ouch, just going to sit back and wait it out.

Re: my first pre-market trade! :)

David,
You may want to read yesterday's EIA Short-Term Energy Outlook. They aren't usually good at forecasting price, but there is considerable good info in this report on oil, natgas, coal.
http://www.eia.doe.gov/emeu/steo/pub/contents.html

Re: Inverse H&S

Les

Thaaaaaaaaaaank you so much Hon! That was a time saver...

bought some more SKF

at 39.60 after reading the following comment from Hussman: "Delinquency rates on commercial, credit card, and real-estate loans are soaring well above last year's levels, so my impression is that immediate fears about inflation will be replaced by a fresh flight to safety within a few months." The loss of the upward momentum in the short-term XLF chart after a huge medium-term move up also makes me feel like this is a low risk purchase.

PAL

(AMM) North American Palladium eyes January mine restart
NEW YORK 09 June 2009 18:18

North American Palladium Ltd. will reopen its Lac des Iles Mine in Thunder Bay, Ontario, when palladium reaches a sustainable price of about $300 per troy ounce?a once-elusive goal that is now almost within reach, the company said.

Palladium averaged $191.82 per troy ounce in October, just one-third of the metal's 2008 peak, when the Toronto-based precious metals producer placed its then-sole mine on care and maintenance. Prices have since seen the first signs of recovery, and September-delivery palladium closed Monday at $252 per troy ounce, the third-highest close this year, due to safe-haven buying, Chinese demand and wider gains in metal prices.

Re: Inverse H&S

After all those charts you pump out for us - least I could do. I found Yamada by scrolling through the video segments, bottom right hand of screen.

Question for everyone:

One the subject of Maxpain for SPY. Checked in to see that maxpain is now $86 for SPY in Jun. Checked in on yahoo and the volume for an $86 put is many times the number for other calls and puts.

What does this tell us? That every man and his dog is playing maxpain, or are the pros homing in on this number?

If........

..we fall into a trading range again today and the you get bored with the tape painting, here is something to help you past the time.

Peter Shiff [I respect his views]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39Lc3nB3AGY

buying dollars

I wonder, who might be buying dollars in anticipation of the possibly successful treasury auction this afternoon?

PM sold off hard this morning at the same time, but oil (as has I have observed recently) got off lightly.

Still, impressive volume for GLD. And it looks to have pretty good support whenever the selling pressure eases.

Re: If........

Saw Peter Shiff last night on John Stewart. He was hinting about running for Senate.

Re: my first pre-market trade! :)

David--Agree with wedge prediction, I'll wait until down trend from May 13th @
17.55 is broken to upside and using rising lower trendline as support. Coming to apex so we should have a breakout soon, one way or another.

Tarp Money

The nice thing about the tarp money being re-paid is that HB&B won't have that money to paint the tape with. Maybe we can get back to a technical market.

Cara 100 Update (Final)

RIMM - numbers raised at Goldman to $96. Estimates also increased, to reflect positive channel checks. Buy rating.

Re: Wooow

Bev, I have a surefire recipe for you to solve that "problem": stand next to me, and gym or no gym, you'll look like a birch tree (traditional Russian euphemism for "slender"). After quitting smoking 3 months ago with its traditional consequences, I provide great backdrop :)

CPST

Nice little pop there, can it gain some traction? These press announcements always provide a pop which never seems to catch on for long... still loosing money I guess, even with natgas in the gutter.

Talk about learners block!

I failed to treat my trades like an accountant would.

Cashed in the loss on SLM, but didn't cash in the gain on WNR.

Who'd a thought of a shakeout to begin the day?

Back to square -1.

sheesh.

Re: CPST/CHK

CP- Interesting to see CHK so strong today, no?

UUP cut in half from initial day's high...

dollar coming down?

Canada is short some PMs... maybe

According to the CBC, there is a discrepancy between the amount of gold and silver the Royal Canadian Mint's records say it has and what's actually there. The Mint's spokesperson says the discrepancy could be anything from a heist to sloppy record-keeping. Well, at least they've got the possibilities narrowed down.

Re: Inverse H&S

SPY puts are increasing, but I don't see a correlation with the VIX yet?

hmm, What's up with that? I dunno... maybe the pros are homing in, they've got just over a week to make their moves, right?

Re: Don't I wish...

CP,

You are much more sanguine than I. When did we last have a decent economic leadership in place? What has changed since Bush left office? Are you aware how much Haliburton benefited during the Bush administration? The mercenaries pay vs our troops?

Does it matter to those in the control group whether the money comes from military or banks?

We (anyone who lost big bucks during the past year) were the ones caught with our pants down. The elite crew running Wall St. US treasury & Co. did very well and still are. They throw an occasional sacrificial lamb into the fire — Madeoff, Lehman — but Paulson, Geithner, Rubin, Franks and too many more to mention are doing the same as their predecessors.

We've had a lot of economic hardship here in Illinois for over a decade and the only thing which has changed is our Congressman now says he's "concerned about job losses to foreign countries" (formerly a big booster of off-shoring) and wants to give us $5000 to buy a new car.

Sure, people are bitching and moaning about prices, about lost savings, about house prices, but look how long Social Security has been ignored, look how many are without health care and willing to let Obama continue with his impossible promises.

Soccer Mom's aren't all that scary. (And they are too busy to do anything about it).

Our unemployment has recently dropped. The drop is due to people who have been able to sell or walk away from the house going elsewhere to look for work.

If you missed the George Carlin bit yesterday about The Club, check it out.

This is and has been the reality for a looooonnng time and is likely to continue, IMO.

SAY

Vadym spoke of overhead room yesterday. Has anyone noticed the tear SAY (Satyam Computer) is on? Isn't this the company that announced recently that it cooked the books for years? Geesh, I can't wait for Mandelbrot's "The (Mis)behavior of Markets" and "Fractals and Scaling In Finance" to arrive in the mail.

disclosure: mayde own some in an Emerging Markets ETF; DYODD.

Re: UUP cut in half from initial day's high...

I think they'll support the buck and pound PM right up until the auction goes off. In the past few weeks, gold spiked prior to one of these long treasury auctions, and I don't think they want that to become a pattern.

But look at TBT - the actual bond market seems to be a market they can't control quite as effectively.

Re: PAL

As always shark, your commentary is intriguing! A month of descending highs doesn't scream "buy" to me, but I suppose the Russian demand may perk the price up and fundamentals will be more meaningful than technicals. Not sure I'm ready to give much credit to Russian economists, (questionable track record), and ergo their thinking that palladium-based currency is the way to go, though.

Re: my first pre-market trade! :)

David,

"I have just connected a DSL service at my temporary place in Russia,"

I contacted AT&T for the umteenth time yesterday and it is still not available here (Illinois, USA). Where the hell is Alexander Bell when we need him?

We're dying a slooow death. The alternative phone company I had is now defunct.

Re: Wooow

Vad...
LOL... my second big laugh of the day. Thanks!

But Vad.... I am so happy for you that you quit smoking. Of the two...losing weight is a whole lot easier than quitting those cancer sticks. Please stay with it. I will throw you a heads up once and a while to make sure you are smoke free. Now ... buff up... so in 6 months [Cara Bahamas 2010 Conference]
I can see the old Vad.

BTW when was this taken of you... 19xx?

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Re: CPST/CHK

Mark - I kinda thought there'd be a bounce there, just got in a wee bit early ($23.50) so my gain ain't quite there yet. Hopefully I'll make some coin before the day ends, need to raise more cash before the anticipated broad sell off.

How much longer can this bloated balloon we're in keep blasting sideways before bursting upon the thorny blossom of options expiration week? The max-pain on SPY says: Danger.., Will Robinson!

Waiting on the corrective action, trying to exit Billy Ball style with pride in tact... ;)

Re: SAY

Company was sold to New owner and management, my feeling is stock will be back to January level within six month.

Re: my first pre-market trade! :)

"I contacted AT&T for the umteenth time yesterday and it is still not available here (Illinois, USA). Where the hell is Alexander Bell when we need him?"

Yes, we can!

SQNM

Turning upward here?

Re: CPST/CHK

Looking at CHK, I think it's late-to-the game folks excited about $NATGAS. I'm no prophet and could be dead wrong, but I know the time to be interested in CHK was back in January and February when indicators were rising from deep oversold conditions.

I'd be getting more excited about war-gaming a short of CHK at this stage in its run, but either way I'd certainly be pulling profits off the table and into our pants pockets.

GLD volume today

We've done yesterday's entire trading volume in GLD in the first 1:45 of trading this morning. The FED is on the warpath.

Re: CPST/CHK

CP - max pain for SPY indicates a 12% drop but the max pain for QQQQ is more sideways action. Does that mean the big guys rollover, but the smaller cap and tech hold up?

Pop and Drop

OGRE (Opening gap reversal)... oh it's dirty business

Breadth fairly negative and weakening
Dollar up (Russian bear growling)
Goldman weaker
Volatility up

The Grand Slam of negativity

Trendless market/ SLW, UNG on the watchlist

Looking for an entry into commodities.

Kirk on ATR trailing stops

Charles Kirk’s sources are eclectic; his approach analytical, disciplined, and ever evolving. At $50/yr for his “members section”, he offers the best bargain in the blogosphere.

His post today looks at modified ATR (average true range) trailing stops per a current article in Stocks and Commodities. He then simulates trades over the last few months in several trending ETFs, and calculates the (impressive)returns.

Through UNG, he also demonstrates how ATR stops FAIL with non-trending stocks …. They don't lead to gains, but they DO stop you out early, and avoid large drawdowns.

Kirk also points out that he has been unable (through fixed %,chart-reading, intuition, or other methods) to equal the performance of ATR stops. The code for ATR stops is available free for all major trading platforms in the magazine.

Jock

bonds and gold

tlt getting hammered the last few days and gold is down.
gold stocks are down even more.

tell me again why the goldies are cheering failing bond auctions when it doesnt seem to be helping gold.

not liking the action at all here, especially in my freshly bought positions from a few days ago.

im back to half out and half in,

Re: Wooow

LMAO!!! In the midst of all this non-sense, it's great to have a laugh! Thanks Bev.

To the many others who contribute here, thank you. I'm learning much from you. Soon I'll even be able to ask a dumb question :)
salty

Countries moving away from US treasuries

It sounded like China wanted to over the past few months, but now it seems that Russia will be the first to move. From bloomberg: "Treasuries Decline as Russia May Pare Holdings of U.S. Debt "

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&si...

And to top all of that off, the US exports have dropped: "U.S. Economy: Trade Gap Grows as Exports Drop to Three-Year Low"

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&si...

Re: bought some more SKF

David - why not short FAS? We know the erosion factor of these.

By the way, my feeling for what it's worth is that the market is finally going to go down. The only reason why I think this is because I went to bed last night with the futures up big and woke up with the market down. The reverse was happening for the past 3 months...

Re: Don't I wish...

where can i see the carlin bit?

Re: Kirk on ATR trailing stops

Interesting. I spent a couple of hours looking at ATR (again) last evening. What prompted me was Bill's excellent comment during yesterday's discourse about his trading philosophy of options vs stocks during the various volatility states of the market. During OCT/NOV '08 meltdown, I was trying to catch falling knives as the volatility kept increasing - amazingly stupid for a relative novice, of course. But it did start to improve as I began using ATR stops and position-sizing money-management ideas.

Re: Kirk on ATR trailing stops

Agree on Kirk's site. Good info and various viewpoints. Worth the money.

Re: Wooow

Oh yeah, that's exactly me on that photo... LOL!. Thanks for a good laugh :)

I just exchanged e-mails with a friend, I'll quote what I wrote about that:

I have to say: I started business in Soviet times... I had run-ins with mafia and corrupted police... I had to flee the
country, find the way to get out my family and get through 3 years of
immigration/security doing background check on me... I learned trading from scratch as new profession while learning Enlgish at the same time... published two books etc... - AND QUITTING SMOKING IS THE FRIKKIN HARDEST
THING I'VE EVER DONE! Ironic, isn't it.

Re: Don't I wish...

Grym - Yes, Carlin had it pegged, for sure. If everything goes to heck we'll know who to blame?

Stretch out your palm for a generous helping of balm. Now does it feel like they're borrowing from your children and children's children to bribe you into submission, or are they simply taking money from your right pocket to place in your left pocket?

It's all a shell game, keep your eye on the shell with the prize.

Like a jamook

I got long sequenom at 460 hoping for a big run.

The US Dollar

Why would a drop in exports, weakness in US treasuries, weakness in US muni/corp bonds 'cause' or coincide with a stronger dollar? Why would people/countries be buying dollars?

The only theory I can think of is that we are still enjoying the world wide US tax on commodities(because they are priced only in USD). And with signs that the world economy may be turning around, there is an uptick in buying.

Re: bought some more SKF

teamonfuego - my feeling for what it's worth is that the market is finally going to go down

I think what happened this morning is just a temporary phenomenon.

In my opinion, the FED is supporting the buck and selling gold in order to support the treasury auction today. Perhaps they even sold off the S&P as well. There are a lot of holes in the dike, and they only have so many fingers. Today, it was the S&P and gold that got thrown under the bus, all in the name of supporting that long bond auction.

EDIT: and even with all that, TLT is still getting stepped on

Re: Wooow

Salty

It is true... there is no dumb question. ASK! Someone will answer and that starts the learning curve.

George Carlin - "the club"

Knifecatcher -

THANKS for reminding us of Carlin's fabulous "the club". I just found the video:

http://www.spikedhumor.com/Article.aspx?p=editcomm...

George Carlin - where are you, now that we REALLY need you ?

He's probably looking down, working on a sequel to this amazing clip. We'll get to hear it - IF we don't get sent down, to the other place with the politcians and the banksters ....

Re: SQNM

out of scenarios we discussed yesterday, one of the most unpleasant takes place:

SQNM: Caris commenting on stock activity, does not see reason for strength after speaking with the company

Re: Wooow

Vad

And to think all that you have been through in your life and this habit has been the hardest to over come.

I read where smoking is harder to quit than cocaine. Stay strong "comrade".

Re: Wooow

"this habit has been the hardest to overcome"

Agreed. Good Luck with that Vadym.

Yesterday's treasury auction of 3-year notes

Well, it looks like over the last month bidders demand about 50 basis points more yield to take the treasuries. What also looked interesting that that both this month and in May the treasury auctioned $35 billion, but the bid to cover ratio went up this month(increased demand).

But with the award yield pushing up, and the bid to cover ratio higher, doesn't that just mean that there were more stick bids this month than last month?

Executive Pay Czar

Interesting... While I feel something has to be done about executive pay, I'm not sure this is ideal...

Breaking News Alert
The New York Times
Wednesday, June 10, 2009 -- 11:41 AM ET
-----

White House Appoints Czar to Oversee Executive Pay

The Obama administration appointed Kenneth R. Feinberg to the new post, giving him broad discretion to set pay for 175 top executives at seven of the nation's largest companies.

Re: Wooow

I quit 35 years ago and still occasionally dream that I'm smoking.
Sad thing I see around me is teenagers smoking. I guess they need to rebel against something, but ...

UNG@13.97

starting a 1/4 position with intentions of buying more on dips. Bills logic works for me on this one too. I got whipsawed on my last UNG trade and plan to be more patient with this go around. Starting with smaller more comfortable position.

Anyone bearish on GS?

I see Bill's comments and then I see the Weekly MACD Histogram (12,26,9) for GS ...

It's saying to me that the stock is in its "Autumn" phase.

Any of you Elder Triple Screeners, would be interested in hearing a take. Thanks!

Re: Kirk on ATR trailing stops

Van Tharp's Book (chapter 9 or 10 I think) goes into all kinds of ATR stops and position sizing.

IIRC, he suggests a 2 ATR stop for a day and a three ATR stop overall. I was in an investment club and we had an ATR stop for Sun Microsystem (the club bought it at 9 and sold at 100)...

Three people quit the club when we sold SUNW (the one-decision stock)...

Stockcharts.com has ATR indicator available for free.

As for the best bargain in the blogosphere, you're reading it today (Bill's site)...

Best,

Ron

Fed Gets Subpoena From House Panel on Bank of America

Fed Gets Subpoena From House Panel on Bank of America (Update1)

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=email_en&si...

June 9 (Bloomberg) -- The Federal Reserve was subpoenaed by the House Oversight Committee for e-mails and documents related to Bank of America Corp.’s purchase of Merrill Lynch & Co. after the panel was unable to obtain them through a request last week.

The central bank will comply and seeks confidentiality for the information, a Fed official said today on condition of anonymity. The panel said it wants to secure the Fed documents for a hearing scheduled for June 11, and Bank of America Chief Executive Officer Kenneth Lewis has agreed to testify.

The move is part of increased congressional scrutiny of the central bank, which helped craft a government aid package enabling Bank of America to absorb Merrill Lynch in January. Lewis told New York state investigators in February that he was pressured in December by Bernanke and former Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson to complete the Merrill acquisition amid mounting losses at the brokerage firm.

Re: my first pre-market trade! :)

From the EIA:
Total U.S. marketed natural gas production is expected to decline by 1.1 percent in 2009 and by 2.6 percent in 2010. Low natural gas prices brought about by the current economic slump have had a dramatic impact on recent drilling activity. According to Baker Hughes, total working natural gas rigs are now down 56 percent from the September 2008 peak. Although a corresponding decline in production has yet to appear in data through March 2009, total U.S. marketed production is expected to drop by nearly 5 billion cubic feet (Bcf) per day between the first and fourth quarters of 2009.

U.S. liquefied natural gas (LNG) imports are expected to increase to about 495 Bcf in 2009, from 352 Bcf in 2008, due to weakness in demand for LNG in the global market. The severe economic contractions in the LNG-consuming countries of Asia have increased the amount of available LNG in the global market,
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This seems bullish to me. Production is decreasing and is not reflected in data though March 2009......Rig count is down....imports of LNG are up.

The low prices and increase in imports (global demand has fallen) are effecting small E&P companies and a few have gone bankrupt or are close to going bankrupt. As these small producer go out of business this will cause U.S. production to decrease more than expected. When global demand picks up this will reduce the flow of imported LNG. The U.S. producers will not be pick up the slack when this happens as producers have been shutting down wells, going out of business, and not drilling new wells.

Quick question

Someone yesterday gave a link to a max pain calculator (http://www.optionpain.com/MaxPain/Max-Pain.php).

Could or would someone please tell me how they utilize max pain information to help them trade? Because to me it looks like the SPY max pain shows a rollover, but the QQQQ shows more sideways action. It would seem that if there is such a drop in SPY that the QQQQ would fall as well.

And if no one gives a flying rip about giving me some insight, I'll just turn on my turning signal, > > > > > , pull into the "Lurker Status" parking lot, and watch the traffic go by.

Have a Blessed Day,
G

(I shouldn't have let the frustration of asking 3 questions in two days about max pain without a reply be evident in that last sentence. I apologize for either being ignorant, asking an ignorant question, or both. I fully realize that ignorance is not stupidity, just a lack of learning. I will continue to try to learn and I appreciate information here. Again, I apologize).

OCNF - Maxpain = $2.5

And is currently trading @ $1.7x, might be some opportunity there?

No position, DYODD

Edit: In @ $1.71

Re: bonds and gold

Plunging Bond Market and Implications for Gold
http://tinyurl.com/m484tv

10 Year - 3.94%

Didn't Bill say something recently about watching out for the rise in the 10-year as it approaches 4.00% that companies will have difficulty meeting earnings? I can't remember - Does anyone remember the point he was making. I'm like a deer caught in the headlights - I want to sell some of my winners and some of my losers to reduce risk but literally can't push the sell button. I can just see it - I'm going to lose all of my gains again and say would've could've should've - Uggh

VAD

I kind of don't understand your comment re: SQNM. If nobody knows why the stocks rising, isn't that actually good in a way? Kind of implies a purely technical move in a name that was once and may again be a lot more valuable?

It IS rising as we speak so can't we just view this as a correction and hopefully resumption of an upmove?

Ok big guy I'm out for now

Ok big guy I'm out for now with a small profit.

ADM

Did a screen:

Beta: -0.5 to 0.5
Price: 10 to 200
EPS: 0.02 to infinity
26-week price change: -10% to 10%
PE ratio: 1 to 10
Avg. volume: greater than 100,000
Current ratio: greater than 1.5

One stock passed - Archer Daniel Midlands (ADM).

Ironically, it is within reach, today, of breaking out of a 8 month trading range (breakout @$29.30?). For P&F enthusiasts, this would represent a quintuple-top breakout.

P&F chart (note the resistance level going back to even the 2007 low): http://tinyurl.com/kngj5f

I wouldn't touch it here, now. But I would find it interesting if it broke-out on good volume, retested the breakout, and then resumed higher, all, say, over the course of a week or two.

Opening a position in HNU.to @ $USD 5.43

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Re: Quick question

G - I think you're interpreting the signals correctly, but I see some downside for both (QQQQ ~ -8%); (SPY ~ -11%)

According to MP calculator, there's plenty of reason for >>>> signal.

No?

Re: Quick question

Search the site for "bsi87" he explained about max pain more than anybody. His explanations may be on the old archives though.

PAL

Be a pal and buy yourself some PAL.

This stock is going back to 9 this year.

LUMFN - Lundin Mining

Lundin Mining has been on a tear since February after a failed merger with HudBay minerals, it delisted itself from AMEX stock exchange, and then the CEO bought 1 million shares almost at its 52 week low. Volume dropped off significantly after they delisted themselves. They claim that it would save them money. Anyway after that move it has risen from its 52 week low of .70 cents to $2.8 in a nice upward channel. One year ago it was a $10 dollar stock.

They mine basic metals like copper, zinc, nickel.

Re: Quick question

G

I am sorry I can't help you on this one. I don't use "max pain" as a trading tool. May want to direct this question to bsi87. If I am not mistaken he uses it as more of a direction indicator when he plans his trades. I'm sure he'll be glad to chime in on this topic.

Re: ADM

Mackinaw - ADM - Everything I see gives a thumbs-up except for the options calculator, which gives a finger of disapproval.

Re: Quick question

RE:>According to MP calculator, there's plenty of reason for >>>> signal.

ah no CP he wasn't talking about parking his money on the side, he was gonna take his ass and park it off lot if no one responded.

Sorry G, I've no answer to your question.

Except to agree with CP. Near 8% drop due in qqqq with present maxpain.

Re: VAD

Yes, but this is not the case of a stock rising for unknown reason anymore.

Yesterday's headline:
Tuesday, June 09, 2009 1:39:39 PM
Sequenom, Inc Strength attributed to chatter that SQNM may be close to resolving issues of mishandled data for SEQureDx Trisomy 21 Test
- reminder: on 4/29 the stock fell over 75% on a report it would delay the launch of its SEQureDx Down syndrome test, due to the discovery by company officials of employee 'mishandling' of R&D test data and results. At that time the company said it is no longer relying on the previously announced R&D test data and results, and would launch the Down syndrome test upon publication in a peer-reviewed journal of the results from the on-going large, independent clinical studies, which are designed to be practice-changing for Down syndrome testing, and anticipate a launch in Q3 2009.

As you see, it outlined the problem that led to a stock drop in the past and the specualtion that leads to the rise now.

Today's headline:
Wednesday, June 10, 2009 9:30:19 AM
Sequenom, Inc Hearing Caris commenting on stock activity, does not see reason for strength.

As you see, it says "we talked to the company, yesterday's speculation is not confirmed so far".

This is a game changer as far as prospects of yesterday's run are concerned. Some will hope for the better and stay in, some will (well, already did obviously) shrug and exit... but the incentive for new longs with greedily glistening eyes to pile up in fear of missing the move surely disappeared. Will new one appear down the road? Why not, but that is going to be new game, new trade, new set of scenarios. As far as active trader is concerned, this one is over. New games come to town: JAZZ, SAY, ESLR...

Re: ADM

Thanks, CP. Looking closer now, I also don't like that descending sequence of volume bars throughout this last run-up (although OBV has remained rock-steady)

Re: Quick question

Here is some of his bsi87 comments:

Max pain
Naw, I think I've mentioned it before. Works best around this time but I like to look at it. If the max pain figure is at or below current price, why mess with the stock? Plus I'm looking for 1 baggers (100% gain) to take on a long position.
Posted by: bsi87 at November 13, 2008 5:43 PM [link]
bsi,
please give me a quick tutorial here. in case of vmw, max pain for Jan 2009 = $40. ($22.77 today's close)
This is basically saying at $40, options writers lose the least for Jan expiry? and will do whatever possible to get it close to $40 as possibe?
And when using this tool, if you can find quality companies trading lower than their future max pain, it signals less resistance up to that max pain price, barring any unforseen news?
And lastly, who is the owner operator of that web site? how do they make money? and how do we know the source of all the options data is all legit.
thanks in advance.
Posted by: NYUgrad at November 13, 2008 5:50 PM [link]
re:VMW
I would look at the closest months first. Nov 22.5, Dec 20, Jan 40. VMW closed at 22.77 today.
The max pain point is where the maximum number/$ of puts and calls expire worthless. I don't know that the Jan figure is that accurate esp when Dec is showing 20.
I use RSI screens to identify potential buys/sells. If the max pain is not above my entry point, I just skip that stock. And with the markets as tough as they are, I've been looking for those issues with max pain at least 2X the current price. May not get there but more "gravitational pull".
I don't know who runs the site.
Suggest you google Max Pain options, there's a lot to read.
Posted by: bsi87 at November 13, 2008 6:10 PM [link]
4. A clear confirmation day (per W.J. O'Neil of IBD) with HUGE volume.

bsi87
Stan Weinstein used to use the weekly 10 DMA crossing the weekly 30 DMA as a long term confirmation, if my memory serves me correctly.
From a purely technical standpoint, I want to see volume come in to the upside; volume that will be so overwhelmingly large that it will be clear that the big money is comfortable coming back.
I'm OK with watching and waiting, as boring as it is.
Posted by: ToddinFL at November 12, 2008 12:13 PM [link]
going forward, i think we could all save a lot of time on investing by just going with longer term trends that i used over the past year in my 401k before stupidly trying to pick a bottom.
this is it:
1.) Buy the SPY when the S&P 500 goes at least 3% above it's 200 DMA.
2.) Sell the SPY when the S&P 500 goes at least 3% below it's 200 DMA.
in this current cycle, you would have sold in December and would not be buying until the S&P 500 goes back above it's 200 DMA.
this strategy works. test it out yourself. It's so easy to implement and helps you avoid massive downturns...
Posted by: teamonfuego at November 12, 2008 12:17 PM [link]

Re: VAD

I was curious yesterday, Vadymn. When your "screeners" flash a signal, do you always require some "corroborating" news item before you'd consider looking for entry? Or, are you willing to play any signals?

Option strike price - Open Interest question - UNG

When I looking at the option stike price of a stock I see both the Volume and Open Interest. Exactly what does open interest mean. Does that indicate how many options have been written so far and have not been exericed or closed out for the specific strike price.

I notice that ther is a 154k open interest for October 14 puts while the open interest for October 14 calls is only at 30k. How would this effect max pain?

At last the truth from GS?

Market News
TEL AVIV, June 10 (Reuters) - Goldman Sachs (GS.N) CEO Lloyd Blankfein said on Wednesday he believed a current upturn in world markets was probably not a full recovery from crisis and said he expected a further long recession.

"I think it's going to be a long proctracted recession," he told an international regulators conference in Tel Aviv.

Addressing a current upturn in markets, he said: "There is no reason to think this is it ... So many things have to be sorted out. Why would this be the recovery?

"The chances are it's not." (Tel Aviv newsroom)

DELL

CP, what does your magic options calculator say on DELL? Thumbs up or a rude finger down?

Re: Quick question

Thanks Chickenpookie.

Do you make decisions based on MP, or just another piece of the information you look at?

Re: VAD

Mackinaw,

in case of "normal stock, normal move" setup is enough for me. Meaning, if I see some of usual suspects moving in a way consistent with what they usually do in terms of current market, I just go with chart and setup. Good examples would be RIMM, AAPL, ADBE etc... if NASDAQ moves up and any of those does, I don't need any news.

Now, if I see an unusual move, yes, I want to have a look at news. No way I would touch that same RIMM for instance if NASDAQ goes up and RIMM dumps 3 points all of a sudden, without looking for news first. Or some of obscure stocks starts moving after being forgotten for months or years... or thing like JAZZ pops up suddenly... trip to a virtual newsstand first :)

Re: Wooow - no dumb questions

Caught a bit of the tv show "House" the other night, (a re-run presumably). It was a scene where House asks one of the younger doctors for their opinion. After some spirited discussion and after being chastised for her dumb idea, House reassures the woman that her dumb idea led to the good idea and thus was valuable. (That said; I'll try not to overstimulate good ideas with my many bad ideas!)

Re: VAD

Thanks, that all makes a lot of sense.

Re: VAD

Vad, Are you receiving virtual news as a paying customer? If so, any time delay between the paid service and "free" news?

Re: Option strike price - Open Interest question - UNG

I can't help with the max pain stuff, but yes, open interest is the number of open contracts.

If the open interest is 0, and I sell a call, and you buy that call, the open interest is now 1, because there is an open contract. That contract can disappear if it is exercised, expires, or if it gets closed through a buy/sell kind of transaction.

I'll repeat advice I heard (and use) even though it may not be relevant to your comment: be wary of trading options with an open interest less than 100 times the position size you are planning on trading. If the open interest is too small, the market is illiquid, which is bad for prices (wide bid/ask spreads). While you can always exercise an option if that is profitable for you, an illiquid market makes it much harder to trade...and very few people hold options to expiration.

Re: Quick question

Thanks for the replies Bev, Les (you were right), and Telestar3d. The BSI87 info helps.

Auction Results

Released on 6/10/2009 1:00:00 PM For 6/10/2009 1:00:00 PM
Auction Results

Bid/Cover 2.62

Total Amount $19 B

Yield Awarded 3.990%

huge spike in TBT

So what the heck happened at the auction to cause TBT to spike on massive volume?

Re: VAD

Les... yes. I am not aware of any free real time news feed that would match good paid one. Of course the need in it is totally timeframe dependent.

Re: DELL

Mackinaw - DELL - Unfortunately, it's not an okey-dokey finger of approval, the MP calculator indicates a move towards $11 is possible between now and Friday next week. Maybe there's an opportunity to obtain better pricing meanwhile? You of course run these through the RSI tool as well, I'm sure (gotta allow site scripts, gotcha!).

http://www.optionpain.com/MaxPain/Max-Pain.php

Rocket Science

Trading and rocket science have nothing in common. As traders we have an easy task...see the market as it is, not as we 'think' it should behave.

The problem will always be controlling ourselves, holding onto the winners and dumping the losers. Floyd Upperman has a great summary of the qualities of the trader on his site:
http://upperman.com/

I gotta print it out and post it in my office.

I enjoyed his book, too.

Re: huge spike in TBT

The yield, 3.99%

Re: VAD

Timeframe yes, I was thinking of your screener, of which I have a demo. Unfortunately insufficient capital to play. As the day gets close to when I have the magic "25", will look to paper trade training with your screener.

Re: DELL

Oh! It's that Options Calculator you're talking about. I thought it was a more sophisticated one related to overpricing/underpricing; like the one you'll find if you follow Bill's link yesterday.
And yes, I peek at RSI. However, I've come to understand RSI a lot better over the last 2 years and I'm not entirely averse to buying on strength given other circumstances align themselves.

Re: Auction Results

And it looks like the Fed bought $3.5B in longer term notes this morning (from NYFed POMO page):
Operation Date: 06/10/2009
Operation Type: Outright Coupon Purchase
Release Time: 10:14 AM
Close Time: 11:00 AM
Settlement Date: 06/11/2009
Maturity/Call Date Range: 08/15/2019 - 02/15/2026

Total Par Amt Accepted (mlns) : $3,500
Total Par Amt Submitted (mlns) : $10,979

Re: Quick question

G - I try to weigh as much data/info as possible, but sometimes my discipline isn't good. Still trying to learn/use all available tools to best of ability and paying least amount of attention to media spin.

There are many rules to learn, not the least of which is to cut losses early.

bsi87 often refers to MP calculator and since were coming into op-ex week, I'm paying close attention to this indicator.

Still learning ;)

Can't wait for Kaimu's comments on this.

The yield on the auction was 3.990% this morning with the Fed purchasing $3.5 billion of the $19 billion. That means the Fed had to buy 18.5% of the treasuries to keep the yield below 4%.

Re: Rocket Science

Ron - Then why is my face puffy and red from hydrazine burns?

Re: huge spike in TBT

Just for comparison, last 10 year auction was May 6th, 2009.

Auction results: 3.19% yield

We already knew yield had been rising over the last month.

Do you have paper in your portfolio? up 5.4%

www.tinyurl.com/nyugrad

quite interesting action today

$DJUSPP leading the way.

Re: Do you have paper in your portfolio? up 5.4%

They need more paper for the printing presses over at the Fed.

Re: Can't wait for Kaimu's comments on this.

did they buy to suppress the yield or because they couldn't get buyers?

From Econoday:

"Today's very important $19 billion 10-year Treasury action shows mixed results. Coverage was strong at 2.62 as was demand from buyside accounts, but bidding was sloppy with the stop-out rate of 3.990 percent about 3 basis points above the 1:00 p.m. bid. Investors are keeping a very close eye on this week's coupon auctions, watching for any cracks to appear in demand given talk of economic recovery. Note the 80-basis-point difference in the stop-out rate from the May auction, a signpost that offers a measure of how much long rates have climbed. Treasuries fell but only slightly in reaction to the stop-out headline. The Treasury auctions $11 billion of 30-year bonds tomorrow."

In layman's term that means what?

Re: Rocket Science

actually one astronaut crew developed bronchiolitis obliterans from dinitrogen tetra-oxide inhalation on landing (IIRC)... that would be getting your lungs ripped off instead of the face...

Re: VAD

Les... if you stay with stocks only, it's easier than you think. E-mail me if so

Re: Rocket Science

Did Estes change the formula for their model rocket engines?

Re: Can't wait for Kaimu's comments on this.

I have a question. In the Fed release for the 10 year auction today, http://www.treasurydirect.gov/instit/annceresult/p... which line item shows the 3.5 billion the Fed bought? Would that be in the Indirect Bidder portion of the announcement?

Re: Can't wait for Kaimu's comments on this.

In laymans terms that means that there was total demand(even those asking for treasuries at 15% yield) for 2.62*$19B = $49.78 Billion of treasuries. Of that bidding $10.979 Billion was from the Fed. which means without the Fed bidding there was a bid of $38.801 billion. which would put the bid to cover at 2.042, which is MUCH lower than last month.

It basically means without the Fed's bid, the auction would have either ended with a yield much higher than current, or nearly failed. Excluding the Fed, there was only 50% more demand(at any yield) than there was supply.

Does any one have statistics on last months auctions, and the Fed's participation?

Re: Can't wait for Kaimu's comments on this.

And the first one who can follow the money and spot where the $35 Billion (10X$3.5B) of mouse-money gets deployed wins a cookie. Hmmm, maybe it's just going in the treasury's coffer to repay TARP.

Re: Can't wait for Kaimu's comments on this.

The Fed did not come in and buy at the new auction - they bought off the run issues earlier in the day. Here is what they bought:

http://www.ny.frb.org/markets/pomo/display/index.cfm

CEF

Anyone know why CEF is moving so much today?

Re: Can't wait for Kaimu's comments on this.

rosevillebill,

The Treasury isn't going to tell you who purchased how much, neither is the 'main' federal reserve website going to tell you. You have to actually look at each of the Fed bank sites to find the release that they have to put out.

Check the links I just posted.

Re: Can't wait for Kaimu's comments on this.

Fits in well with option expiration don't it?

Re: Can't wait for Kaimu's comments on this.

Thanks.

I've got some CD's coming due between Aug and the end of the year. Looking to get into Treasury's and Muni's for the tax advantage and a somewhat better rate than what I can find on Bankrate. I signed up for the Treasury Direct account. Not sure if I'm going to go through them or my broker and include the secondary market. I can hold out re-investing for a year or so if interest rates are moving up.

I could always wish for the 17% bonds issued back in the late 70's or early 80's, but then you should always be careful of what you wish for.

VAD

Thank you for your opinion on SQNM..

Today you definitely saved me from a fairly expensive stopout.

Re: CEF

They found the gold that the Central Bank of Canada lost. ;)

I think it's because the loonie is down a cent against the greenback, (gold is priced in USD, so it's a bit of a currency play to buy gold in CDN$), and silver is up, (CEF holds both gold and silver).

bonds hit, US up...lessons learned

yet another lesson learned,

TLT down hard, USD up.
gold flat.

who says bonds crashing will be bullish for gold and bearish of USD????

In eslr 2.25

In eslr 2.25

Re: bonds hit, US up...lessons learned

Could it be that the 'money on the side lines' is moving from treasuries to cash? Just plain cash? That's all I can think of.

Volume still not showing up

Prob low enough volume for ppt to get a last minute buzzer beater.

xlf
Volume: 106,409,703
Avg Vol (3m): 223,545,000

gs
Volume: 9,893,942
Avg Vol (3m): 23,270,800

jpm
Volume: 35,431,515
Avg Vol (3m): 98,477,000

wfc
Volume: 59,578,155
Avg Vol (3m): 159,381,000

amzn
Volume: 4,341,509
Avg Vol (3m): 8,352,030

SPY
Volume: 184,964,222
Avg Vol (3m): 298,825,000

SDS
Volume: 31,772,296
Avg Vol (3m): 47,551,900

Anyone looking for a green close?

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Re: Anyone looking for a green close?

Feels different today 2nd. Wondering if they want to goose treasuries with negative equity markets?

eslr

As the Dow dropped below 100 and the price petered out I took a small profit at 2.30

This is a lot of work:)

Getting ready to maybe get back in...AGEN also doing fabulously.

Re: bonds hit, US up...lessons learned

Quentusres,

I think you're absolutely on the right track. Here's a quote I pulled from Marketwatch today. “There are an awful lot of Treasuries being auctioned and there’s going to be more and more and more and more,” said Jay Mueller, who manages about $3 billion of bonds at Wells Fargo Capital Management in Milwaukee." I can definitely see people holding their cash waiting to get a better return on their soon to be cheaper dollar.

I just can't get my arms around gold whether paper or commodity. The ETF's are run by the banks so are they a safe haven? I only keep a very small amount for a life or death type of emergency. Too many times people have lost their life over things not nearly as precious as gold.

stopped out of TBT at 59.10

Waiting to reload for tomorrow's fun.

Re: The 10 banks seeking to

"It's all ponzy schemes" all right.

We had the much touted 'Making Home Affordable' for about a month before Fannie and Freddie rolled out the real program. With all their convenient pricing adjustments the much touted DU-Refi (Stimulus consumer mortgage bailouts) are not so hot. Considering the Fed's $1.2 Trillion Plan was intended to push rates down initially--we have unintended consequences: mortgage backed securities are off and running. Rates have lept from 4.5% last week ...now pushing 6% with all this talk of recovery and need to tighten money policy. Do I get all this? Hardly. The minute you think you have a grip on the latest hot program to help your clients, it's gone.

This mortgage market is in fact, already driving more homeowners to loan modification or foreclosure. And if anyone doubted who Cuomo was really working for, these guys have the facts straight on HVCC appraisal code's unintended consequences for consumers:

https://www.thinkbigworksmall.com/public/showArchi...

As Bill put it "The mind boggles at the lack of ethics that exists on Wall Street and in Washington."

Sidebar: If I've seemed out of sorts you can imagine the pressure we are feeling for our stressed clients right now. Thanks for ignoring me!

Re: bonds hit, US up...lessons learned

dr.cosa - "who says bonds crashing will be bullish for gold and bearish of USD????"

It depends on reason for bonds crashing. Today bonds didn't crash due to dollar depreciation, they crashed due to oversupply. Nobody came to play with Timmy today.

Re: bonds hit, US up...lessons learned

I'm thinking people are moving to the very short end of the yield curve. 3 Month and less.

Looks like the buck is falling back off its highs, and gold & silver are recovering, along with the S&P.

Re: Can't wait for Kaimu's comments on this.

Can someone take a look at this:

http://www.newyorkfed.org/markets/pomo/display/ind...

That's the last 10 actions to purchase treasuries taken by the NY Fed. They've actually been buying up a lot of treasuries over the past week or two.

Can I get some help tallying up the numbers?

Mortgage scam

Both my boys are trying to buy a house. Most of the homes around my area are short sales. The owner puts the house up for sale, and you meet his price, this starts the process. Next you have to deal with the bank, this takes months for the bank to approve the short sell. If the property has a second mortgage it will take longer. In the mean time the mortgage rates are going up which could then stop the deal on the buyer's side. The oldest boy says he is not going to look at anymore short sells because the banks are just to hard to deal with. The youngest boy has beem waiting three months, for two banks to make a decision on the house he wants to buy. This whole new mortgage deal is a scam, the banks don't want to loan on declining assets, nor do they want to loan at a low interest rate for 30 years.

Welcome to Scam America

Re: Volume still not showing up

NYU

I am beginning to wonder whether using the 3 month avg volume is very appropriate considering that the past 3-9 months represented such an outlying event. Perhaps 1 or 2 year average volume would be more appropriate (although perhaps this is also skewed because of how much dilution has taken place in the market)?

Bennie Bubbles vs the Bond Vigilantes

The FED enabled oligarchy of the financial world has poured money into equities and commodities creating one of the largest short term market gains in history.Maybe they even used some TARP money for the run up. Coupled with a propaganda campaign of green shoots and the message that the worst is over, the Banksters are sittiing on a nice pile of short term profits from the recent market rise. Some players also benefited as private equity issues were enabled by the rising market.

Meanwhile the bond vigilantes are back and forcing medium and long bond rates sharply higher, and threatening
the actions of the Fed. to turn the economy around,

Will the Fed accept the higher rates... revealing their loss of control of 10-30yr interest rates?
Or will they attempt to enact a crash in equity and commodity prices, reaping the profits from their 3 month boost of the stock market, and buying newly inflated Treasuries with with the proceeds, hoping another market crash will force Treasury prices higher and rates lower? If successful, when rates come down, they then sell their Treasuries for another quick profit profit, then repurchase stocks and commodities at attractive lower prices for the next run up.

However, our foreign creditors concern over the safety of their investments is growing... the Fed may be forced to buy more and more Treasuries as global investors shun dollar denominated investments, just as a huge increase in bond issuance looms ahead. If the situation worsens or snowballs our of control, domestic investors may flee dollar holdings as well. That's when the doors slam shut and currency and investment flows are locked down.
Then..You can call me Argentina

Re: stopped out of TBT at 59.10

Dave- I hope I'm not being to greedy, but the plan was to sell TBT after tomorrows auction...I'll stick with that.

Maybe time...

To short oil...

http://tinyurl.com/kvuhhf

Depending on EOD or tomorrow's opening may take a positon in DTO and short OIH [also maybe XOM] with tight stops.

UNG and HNU.TO

Noticed alot of you on this site follow these etf's.
They both hit a double bottom in technical terms about a month ago
and seem to be moving sideways on above average volume.
Bill had mentioned with the price of oil at current levels how far behind could gas be?
Opinions,thanks
Gord

Re: The 10 banks seeking to

loannetter -

That link appears to be the mortgage brokers' lobby. HVCC stops brokers from shopping appraisals based on predetermined value conclusions in exchange for small fees and future appraisal assignments. Residential appraisers I know are seeing their fees increase for the first time in decades with plenty of work as a result of this legislation! HVCC is not intended to assuage the commission-based debt promotors; rather, it stops them from inflating (via appraisal manipulation) junk consumer housing debt via the Freddie/Fannie gov't sponsored mistake of a generation.

Remember, appraisers don't make the market, they only observe it. If a mortgage broker produces debt terms based on balanced market conditions, it's a deal, but leading a naive consumer into debt pergatory for a fee through appraisal pressure is bad karma.

eslr

got back in about an hour ago at 31 cents just sold at 40

Re: Mortgage scam

mntinhi -

Your boys should skip bank-owned houses and lock in a low interest rate before inflation hits. Banks are in no hurry to solve your fixed interest rate concern and can delay longer than you can wait. Opportunity risk is poor. Rent and be happy.

Re: stopped out of TBT at 59.10

I got back in at 58.60 and 58.75.

I didn't know how far down things would go after my stop got hit. TBT does bounce around.

I suspect Something Interesting will happen tomorrow, based on what went down today. I'd be concerned holding gold in the early AM though, again based on today's action. They really hit it hard. Lets see, the recipe is - buy the buck, pound gold and silver, and equities get thrown under the bus just as a side effect.

Re: Mortgage scam

I have recently begun looking at real estate and found some of the same things going on. I was considering a bid on a foreclosed Fannie Mae property. Problem was that the house had been half-way rehabbed before it was foreclosed on thus some of the main jobs like the heating/cooling system weren't done, making the house unnoccupiable. Aside from paying in cash which was not going to happen, I found that the only way to buy the property was to use an FHA 203k loan that allows some rehab expenses to be rolled up into the mortgage.

The problem was that the FHA 203k loan market was so backed up that my lender was notifying me to allow for at least 60 days to closing. Fannie Mae however wouldn't agree to closing terms further than about 30 days out without sticking in a fine of $100/day for every day past 30 days. The deal was then dead.

That was when rates were sub-5%. A month or so later they are up substantially. I am getting less interested in buying for every basis point we move up and I am fairly confident that there will be some extension of the first-time home buyer program................

Re: The 10 banks seeking to

The link is from the trenches of those dealing with consumers. The whole thing was a scam to protect WAMU from investigation of their own fake values, not the brokered loan.

NAMB (broker association) has called for a review:

https://www.namb.org/namb/HVCC_Resource_Center.asp

The scam here is that new code allows a bank to take your $450 up front and use their own in house 'valuation' without even calling a real appraiser out. How can that be protecting the consumer from their own naiive 'debt pergatory' ? We are hearing that some eager appraisers who got on the bus with an AMC early are being called to houses 80 miles from their turf so their findings are not based on knowledge of the area. The senior guys are having their prices cut drastically.

Home values in hard hit areas are being forced down by the bank's deciding what a home is worth (or they are willing to lend). We are just asking for a balanced view; not the banks in power mode. Enough of that already!

Re: Opening a position in HNU.to @ $USD 5.43/ off @ $USD 5.37

Just clearing off the table, back to 100% cash.

UNG and HNU.TO

With the double bottom in tech terms about a month ago
and the sideway tracking on above average volume.
Bill had mentioned with the price of oil at current levels how far behind can gas be.
Curious if traders are looking long or short term
Thanks,
Gord

eslr

Woah Betsy! 2nd...Think it's gonna make 18?:)

VADYM.....Great stuff today. You should definitely spend more time here at Bill's during the days. The value you add is...very valuable. Thank you man.

Record Number of Security Updates

Microsoft Issues Record Number of Security Updates

Microsoft Corp. issued a record-breaking number of software security updates today, shipping patches that plug at least 31 different security flaws in its Windows operating systems and other software.

More than half of the security holes Microsoft plugged with June's patch batch earned a "critical," severity rating, meaning Redmond believes attackers could exploit the flaws to break into vulnerable systems without any help from the victims.

http://tinyurl.com/mkagzc

Sponge BOB still cranking

Bought a 1000 shares just to remind myself how bad penny stocks are. :').....they almost always end bell shaped. Already up 11% .

Re: Mortgage scam

BillySundance, It really helps for consumers to speak up about their experiences. I have several couples trying to buy short sales and they can't even get an answer from the bank! One couple is renting a home that will be auctioned out from under them. They have made an offer with no answer in a bidding war and will be kicked out if a higher bid is made at the last minute. New laws are rolled out like tissue paper to cover the cracks on all these unintended consequences. The foreclosed rental tenant can stay to the end of their lease only if the new buyer is an investor (not intending to live there).

Don't get me going on the 'scam' of the First Time Buyer Tax Credit... FHA/HUD/IRS in a tangle about how to let the borrower have their tax credit up front but no, wait, HEY...can we make money by lending a second on that????? Hint: If you are buying a home with deficiencies that make it uninhabitable, there are foreclosure capital lenders who will fork it over for 90 days to get you in the door. Cheaper than a credit card at about 10-11% interest only. OR your crafty broker could sweet talk the heating specialist to do the work pending payment from closing proceeds by adding the bid cost to the sale price. (Imagine your banker facilitating that?)

Re: Record Number of Security Updates

Which is why smart people use Linux. Ever since running (2) computer businesses it was obvious that MS products were and are poorly written. No longer will I fix problems for friends with any MS O/S. Ubuntu works, no viruses, no malware etc, and mucho free programs.

Re: Record Number of Security Updates

Unfortunately there's application software that requires Windows features that aren't available on linux :-)

Re: The 10 banks seeking to

loannetter -

What a mess. Thanks for your clarifying remarks.

Re: Record Number of Security Updates

Yes that's really true. I have a trading platform that only runs on XP, yet I use a mac. So what I do, to limit the shenanigans that Windows viruses can cause, is run Vmware Fusion on my mac. Fusion lets you run a "virtual" copy of windows inside a mac window! It's awesome. That way, Windows cannot get out of its Fusion playpen, and I can use my mac for everything else I need to do. Works great, just requires some extra memory to make it run reasonably fast.

And if some virus infects my virtual windows machine, I can just revert back to an old (uninfected) snapshot and I'm back up in 2 minutes. Its the only way I'll do windows these days!

Re: eslr

Well... it's possible only so far... as you will surely understand, my first obligations are my paying customers. Relatively slow summer trading leaves me more time to post during the day but still.

ESLR was a dream setup. 2.10 break long trigger, stop under 2 for a day trade, under 1.80 for a swing trade. Hit 2.60 so far, 23% move in a single day

Re: Sponge BOB still cranking

sold my remainder of spng at 13cents the other day. kicking myself sorta - but not really considering I was in at 3cents. Also got out of SQNM pre-market this am for a heck of a nice profit. In and out of FAZ today aswell...pretty good week for me. But alas - off to Niagara Falls tomorrow for the weekend so no trading until black Monday :) ...is that still in the cards?

Re: Record Number of Security Updates

VM Ware is, of course, available with Linux. Usually written and updated for Linux.
The price, for runtime is "free'. There is a pay as you play version as well.

Re: Mortgage scam

Loannetter

Thanks for posting. I have read a number of your posts and appreciate your views from mortgage "trenches". I started looking at real estate a few months back as per my own analysis the cost of owning vs. renting (in my area) seemed to be moving to a more reasonable equilibrium. I also wanted to take advantage of the vast market for foreclosures and the first time $8000 credit.

Fast forward a couple months. I've learned volumes since I began. First off, the "bank owned" REO/foreclosure market operates much like the wild wild west. It is virtually impossible to get straight answers on anything from most of the listing agents these banks have hired. I think I need to take a college psychology class just to interpret most of the responses I've gotten from listing agents. There is also a large amount of bank owned property that is sitting unlisted, suggesting to me that there will continue to be new properties becoming available for some time.

Despite the recent jump in rates, I am still much more confident being on the buyers side and willing to wait until the situation is perfect (and if it never is I will continue to be a stress free renter). This housing market ain't reversing anytime soon (stabilization in 2010 would be best case scenario, I think) and I've already heard that Coldwell Banker is busy lobbying Congress on my behalf for a $15,000 first time homebuyer credit.

Peter Schiff on the Daily Show last night

via Ritholtz, here is the clip of Schiff:

http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/2009/06/peter-schiff-...

Snips of CNBC shouting-heads telling Schiff how WRONG he was - NOT. Most entertaining.

Steward didn't point this out, but: Schiff's "diagnosis" was better than his "cure". WSJ reported that accounts at his firm doubled last year, but that his portfolios lost 50% - more than the S&P did.

In the (2007) book he was flogging last night, Schiff recommended gold, commodities, and foreign stocks ... Maybe those reccos will work out going forward?

Re: Mortgage scam

BillySundance, Thanks for your kind comments.

If you prefer speed, you might check out the HUD owned properties in your state. They are bid on electronically by a HUD approved broker and OUT the door they go. (Why not become a HUD approved broker methinks?) Lots of dogs there however. Avoid the wobbly boxes (manufactured homes)they are too hard and to $$ fund. FHA offers a $100 down program for their foreclosed homes with up to $5K to fixerup (only a few lenders fund them). VA.REO has a similar program for Veterans. I agree, this side of the transaction is better if you have the stamina--you'll win!

http://www.hud.gov/homes/index.cfm click on your state, then search by city.

Re: eslr

Thank you for your help today:)

Ever come to NYC? Let me know if you do, we can check out the coolest ex-pat community in the U.S.,Sheepshead Bay Brooklyn. Everything's on me.

Seriously...I'm 1/4 Russian.

The Fed Subpoena and BofA Testimony

The Fed Subpoena and BofA Testimony
June 10, 2009

Bob Eisenbeis is Cumberland’s Chief Monetary Economist. Prior to joining Cumberland Advisors he was the Executive Vice President and Director of Research at the Federal Reserve Bank of Atlanta. Bob is presently a member of the U.S. Shadow Financial Regulatory Committee and the Financial Economist Roundtable. His bio is found at www.cumber.com. He may be reached at Bob.Eisenbeis@cumber.com.

Yesterday, the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee subpoenaed Federal Reserve internal documents, notes, and emails in advance of the testimony by Bank of America’s Ken Lewis on Thursday. The hearing is on the alleged pressure applied by Secretary Paulson and Chairman Bernanke to go through with BofA’s acquisition of Merrill Lynch. Accounts of this pressure first surfaced in a letter to Congress and testimony released by New York State attorney general Andrew Cuomo. This subpoena may not seem like a big deal, especially since the Fed has indicated that it would supply the requested information, but it is for many reasons. But first, what is at issue?

Briefly, we can glean much from Attorney General Cuomo’s letter to the Congress, the SEC, and Congressional Oversight Panel. This much seems reasonably clear:

1. A few days after the BofA shareholder vote on Dec. 5, 2008, approving the acquisition of Merrill Lynch, the latter’s projected losses for the 4th quarter jumped by $3 billion and ultimately proved to be $6 billion.

2. The declining financial condition of Merrill was such that Mr. Lewis had essentially all but concluded that BofA should exercise what is called a “material adverse change” (MAC) clause in the merger agreement, allowing BofA to either abandon or possibly renegotiate the terms of the deal.

3. Mr. Lewis informed Secretary Paulson of his concerns, and between Dec. 17 and Dec. 22 a series of discussions took place between Mr. Lewis, Mr. Paulson, Chairman Bernanke, and other regulators. Policy makers made it clear that they were concerned about the systemic risk to the financial system and to BofA if the merger not go through, and apparently they strongly pressured Mr. Lewis not to invoke the MAC clause.

4. On Dec. 21 Secretary Paulson reportedly threatened that if BofA abandon the merger then its management and board might or could be replaced. According to the Cuomo letter, Mr. Paulson indicated that this communication was at the request of Chairman Bernanke.

5. On Dec. 22, at the bank’s board meeting, the views of the regulators were presented concerning systemic risk, the existence of the threat, and the willingness of the government to provide financial assistance to ensure that the transaction was completed. It was also indicated that the financial assistance could not be confirmed in writing. Other testimony indicated that if the commitment was put in writing, then the Treasury would have to disclose it, which the regulators did not want. In that meeting, the board also included a statement in its minutes that the existence of the threat did not influence its desire to proceed with the acquisition. (It is not unreasonable to think that this statement was a way for the board to provide itself some cover from liability).

6. On Dec. 30, at another BofA board meeting, further discussions with regulators about the commitment of financial support were considered, and Mr. Lewis made clear his view that were it not for the systemic risk issues, the MAC clause should be invoked. However, the commitment of government support to make BofA whole seemed, by inference from the board minutes, to be sufficient to put that problem aside.

This brief summary doesn’t do justice to the nature of the discussions already in the public domain among the regulators, the bank’s management, and its board. But it does suggest several issues that should be explored in the hearings in the interest of transparency, since taxpayer money was being used to encourage a merger that management was otherwise reluctant to pursue.

First, it is clear that policy makers’ actions and concerns meant that they were functioning as a de facto systemic-risk regulator, even though there was no explicit authority to do so. Second, in that capacity they knowingly committed taxpayer funds to make sure the merger went through, while not wishing to make that commitment known to either the general public or to BofA’s shareholders. That is, as the de facto systemic-risk regulator they were exercising regulatory discretion to downgrade the interests of BofA’s shareholders in favor of what they perceived to be the undefined, but potentially negative, consequences of “systemic risk.” In the process, the agency in charge of protecting shareholder interests – the SEC – was apparently not involved or informed in any way. Third, while both Secretary Paulson and Chairman Bernanke have steadfastly asserted that they did not specifically advise Mr. Lewis on what his responsibilities were regarding disclosures to shareholders, this seems based on the available information to be a distinction without a difference. It may be relevant from a legal perspective but not substantive as far as what was intended. The testimony by Mr. Lewis suggests there was a threat, a commitment of funds to ensure that the transaction took place, an expression of concern about public disclosure, and the granting of regulatory forbearance, which together raise significant questions about intent.

All of these issues will be explored tomorrow in greater depth, we hope. More important, however, is the lessons that will be drawn by Congress at it considers regulatory and agency reform and what powers and authorities to grant to the responsible agencies in a financial crisis. This case makes it clear that a crisis – and even non-crisis situation – can sometimes create conflicts among the interests of various affected parties or stakeholders, in this case the interests of the taxpayer, the financial system and real economy, and shareholders. In a paper with a former colleague at the Atlanta Fed, Larry Wall, we pointed out that when a regulatory agency is charged with multiple regulatory goals (such as monetary policy, banking supervision, and consumer protection) any conflicts that arise will be resolved internally to the agency, with the most weight given to the objective which it deems most important.1 This means that agencies with overlapping regulatory responsibilities – as in the case of banking regulation and supervision – will oftentimes resolve those goal conflicts differently. Hence, careful consideration should be given to deciding when the public interest is best served by having those conflicts externalized and when they can be resolved internally.

That is what is at root in the current discussion about the Merrill Lynch acquisition. Mr. Lewis and the BofA board were caught in the middle of a problem for which they potentially faced legal liabilities to shareholders for their actions and at the same time they must deal with the Fed and Treasury, who had other concerns.

Now, about the subpoena and the issues it raises. First, it says something about both the continuing Congressional complaints of lack of transparency on the part of the Fed when it comes to the recent responses it has taken to the financial crisis, and the erosion of the Fed’s reputation and credibility with Congress. That it should be forced, rather than acting voluntarily, to release information requested by Congress when there are less than compelling reasons for not releasing that information, sure looks like a power play between the Fed and Congress.

Second, such subpoenas are extremely rare, indeed. The last Congressional subpoena of the Fed was in 1990 when Congress subpoenaed the Fed to release examination reports on a foreign bank operating in the US, accused of channeling funds to Saddam Hussein. In that case, the documents in question were actually the property of several state bank regulators and not the Federal Reserve. The Fed was willing to release the documents, but state authorities used the courts to fight Congress’ right to obtain the documents from a secondary source. The subpoena did not involve a substantive issue concerning the Fed itself.

Third, in this case, most of the documents requested relate to communications between the Fed, Mr. Lewis, and the Treasury, pertaining to the Merrill acquisition and not examination reports. The Fed initially let the committee staff review the requested information on the Fed’s premises for several days. The reason for this restriction on distribution of the documents was that the documents supposedly included information that had been collected under conditions of confidentiality. Now, the committee has determined that it wants its members to have access to the documents. What substance is in those documents that require direct inspection by each Congressman and that could not be conveyed by their staff remains a mystery. It will hopefully be revealed tomorrow. Also unclear at this time is whether the treatment of such documents would or would not be subject to the same confidentiality agreements negotiated between Chairman Greenspan and Congressman Gonzalez in 1991, pursuant to its request of the Saddam Hussein financial records. Again, this looks like a power play between the Congress and the Fed rather than a substantive issue concerning regulatory reform, as discussed earlier. As such it is simply another indication of the willingness of Congress to press the Federal Reserve on its independence – issues that arise because of the Fed’s multiple regulatory roles.

1 http://www.frbatlanta.org/invoke.cfm?objectid=83FD...

Bob Eisenbeis, Chief Monetary Economist, email: bob.eisenbeis@cumber.com

auction opinions & factoids from bloomberg

“The auction was clearly disappointing,” said Ira Jersey, head of U.S. interest-rate strategy at RBC Capital Markets in New York, the investment-banking arm of Canada’s biggest lender. “These results don’t bode well for the bond auction tomorrow.”

Thirty-year bonds handed investors a 28 percent loss this year, versus 11 percent for 10-year notes and 0.4 percent for two-year securities, according to indexes compiled by Merrill Lynch & Co. Treasuries of all maturities have fallen 6.2 percent this year, according to Merrill indexes. The securities haven’t posted an annual decline since 1998, according to the index.

http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601087&si...

Got TBT?

FD: Long TBT :)

Ken Lewis saga

Investigators find that Bernanke lied re not pressuring BoA in Merrill Lynch take-over. Sounds like a case of same old, same old. Lewis gives testimony to Congress tomorrow. We need to know who Bernanke and Paulson were acting for. Then we need to see indictments.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB124466361157703247...

Re: UNG and HNU.TO

I noticed the double bottom on the chart, but bought a few hundred shares this week this week mostly due to expectations of gains during heating cycle in a few months. Also, most new power generation plants are nat gas.

Re: Ken Lewis saga

Forget it. Obama has bought into the WS and HB&B weltenschau hook, line and sinker.

:)

Bill

when you say:

The mind boggles at the lack of ethics that exists on Wall Street and in Washington.

The simple truth, the people controlling the show, have no ethics. So bad on us to expect any hope of decency.

The mind boggles not at their lack of ethics. It boggles that "the people" let themselves, let their government , which reflects their own representation for how their life gets managed... to get hi-jack by a few people without ethics.

You and I both know, it is no longer about solutions, and the system is doing its own best to destroy itself. I leave it to you, the financial expert to take advanatge of that to get strong so you can fund your own social equity process later when the times do change.

But for now... the tragedy plays out and we are not in the last act yet...

Re: Record Number of Security Updates

I've found that most programs that don't run on Linux aren't worth running. ;)

I think it's frustrating that my (Windows XP) work computer is only a few years old, but often runs slower than my 6-year-old (Linux) home computer with less than half the memory. Why does Outlook take 5-10 minutes to search a mailbox when my webmail does it in seconds? Why do I have to reboot after a while on Windows because programs can't seem to find memory anymore on a 4 GB system, even after I close everything?

It's amazing how frustrating Windows is once you get used to Linux.

Re: Ken Lewis saga

I would like to comment I don't think Obama has bought into WS and HB&B, Instead he was bought just like the last few administrations...

A fine difference, but one which makes all the difference since it shows: True solutions won't come from the government when the last 5 presidents consistently have been bought.

The system stopped about being whats right and instead only about support those who buy you into power...

Power defines a person, and US History (as Kaimu shows over and over again) is about how politics by a large degree are largely dictated by the financial giants...

I keep saying it, the best solution is simply to get off the ride at a time of your own choosing rather than be taken down by the mess. Just time your moving to the side to match your skill at working in this market. Fortunately this blog helps but be careful since the rules are likely to change when we least expect it. Personally I have no doubt over the next decade most of rules will get broken...Since we are in the middle of defining a whole new century of how to do business and 20th century models won't work smoothly just as the 19th century models got thrown out the door in the 20th century...

Always the same, always changing and different. Take your pick. But time your ride carefully.

Long live change!

May we all be part of the change rather than being broken in change.

Re: Ken Lewis saga

casey,

re "the best solution is simply to get off the ride at a time of your own choosing..."

People who are independent can choose to join you and kaimu in Hawaii or me in Bahamas. I think all three of us have a fairly low-cost budget but a top-flight lifestyle. For most people, though, there are strings.

Members of Congress Hold

Members of Congress Hold Stock in Bailed-Out Companies
http://tinyurl.com/l5h9kq

Re: :)

For time immmemorial, nothin' new under the sun...huh, Casey...

Pinter's 2005 Nobel Laureate Acceptance Speech

I wasn't a member of the Cara Community Dec 7, 2005, so I apologize if this is an event that has already been discussed here. At the time, it made a huge impression on me. It's dramatic, shocking, and unbalanced. That was certainly Pinter's intention. After all, it was his belief that U.S. Policy was unbalanced. It struck me, this evening, while watching an Albright interview today, that it's relevant again to listen to. Those who know me, here, know that I am not a U.S. basher. On the contrary, I believe that America is merely at the crossroads in their evolution and, in some small way, one can't but help and wonder if this great lurch caused by the Financial Crisis isn't an important part of that change.

Background: Harold Pinter, actor, playwright, social activist, obviously near death, is awarded the Nobel Prize in 2005. Unable to attend the ceremony, he sent a video speech. Be warned, it's long (45 minutes), but I think you'll find it ... stimulating.

The speech: http://nobelprize.org/mediaplayer/index.php?id=620...

Pinter Biography: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harold_Pinter

Re: Ken Lewis saga

Casey,

How's the weed out there?

Just kidding bro..You sound like a beautiful person.

I need to embrace the light, and let the waters take me home...

Re: Ken Lewis saga

I agree about the strings, but its always possible to simplify and release into an improved life.

I know it isn't easy, it wasn't easy to arrange what I do, I spent 12 years to simplify, shuffle strings, get to this point, and it's only day to day in how I live. In kindness strangely it keeps together also. But most people wouldn't want to live month to month... yet more people than not are only one paycheck away from major issues... so more people than not already live month to month.. so why not shift it to a better lifestyle?

But it isn't easy to drop out, or to move to the side... But I can testify, since I have done it... it is possible.

Having been helping people release out of strings and entanglements, it's good to let people know that other options exists, otherwise they wouldn't take the time to discover their own release, thinking they are stuck...

The option isn't to move to Hawaii or Bahama's for most people...Living here is much more challenging than on the mainland. The true option is to live your life openly and more to your nature and being aware of what that means...

That it is always possible to do this if you use awareness and patience to navigate out of limitations and strings that we think that bind us... but in reality usually just a psychological prison our culture uses to keep people in check.

Re: :)

pretty much my friend,

its how we choose to make it our own , is the difference being just following the trends... or making one's life art itself.

Re: Ken Lewis saga

:) only weeds I deal with are the palm trees my friend. I am on the big Island, I do believe Maui is more the island for the type of weed you joke about. And actually from what I understand the mainland now produces the best weed in the world.

Many tobacco farmers have their main crop, and ask them to show you their true hidden "cash" crop. You might be surprised at the size of that industry on the mainland of the good old USA... Funny how that never makes the mainstream news. The laws in this country are thankfully shifting in that regard and too much money is being made in weeds for it remain weeds much longer.

As an aside I worked in the Drug and Alcohol Treatment field for many years help people get treatment. So I don't take offense since I understand drug abuse very well but I do stay away from joking about it or taking sides for professional reasons.

No need to embrace the light when you live to the warmth of your heart my friend. It might be Infrared, but it's still light... And that's the light of being part of community itself as these waters all flow back to the Bahama's here at this blog :)

Glad to see you managed to stay on board.

Today the pump was in the

Today the pump was in the futures instead of the close. And this sort of consolidation near the top is not such a great sign for bears. We may rally further.
tomorrow I will be looking at VVTV

Re: Record Number of Security Updates

you might want to check out www.virtualbox.org, a free, open source virtual machine system. It's from some really sharp folks at Sun.

(full disclosure: I own 25 shares in Sun after the reverse split, I have no idea how much Oracle I'm going to end up with once the merger completes)

ESLR

anyone know what's on ESLR? It's up almost 30 % today. Sold some shares i bought at 1.80

Re: ESLR

BoA's Ken Lewis to testify

http://tinyurl.com/l3jvm2

Should be interesting.

ENER

anyone following this company? seems to me it hasn't moved as much as others in it's space...what gives?

I run Ubuntu linux, and virtual box

I currently on my desktop and laptop run Ubuntu linux(with the full IB trader application). Most applications can run inside WINE(a windows emulator program) and those that can not run under wine will run under virtualbox with a full copy of windows xp installed.

If you have a newer machine(almost anything in the last 2 years) you might have the option for virtualization on the cpu. For anyone who tried VMWare over the last 5-7 years, the virtualization option on the cpu makes running a guest operating system just as fast as if it were the only OS installed(give or take 5% rather than what use to be about 70% overhead).

Re: ENER

found this article...probably best to stay away:

http://online.barrons.com/article/SB12420796759490...

Re: ESLR

Sounds like a speculation...
i was burn quite badly during the last solar bull run...

Dropping Out/The Immigrant (off topic)

http://tinyurl.com/n6q8dm

Not trading, so reminiscing. Not sure what it is about music, but it can take you back in the blink of an eye (TGFYouTube).

1974-75 was my "Chinese year."

I spent the Spring/Summer semester at Michigan immersed in Intensive Beginning Chinese with Professor Rui and her TA Pong Xiaojie, which meant entire days in the basement of the Modern Language Building and entire evenings memorizing. The follow-up class was January to April of 1975, with classes in a building next to Rackham that apparently no longer exists (I remember it housed the School of Social Work, among other things).

Back then you had to be a little crazy to be reading, writing, and speaking Chinese 12-16 hours a day. Half of both classes dropped out before the end of the first two weeks. The class included a card player who financed his tuition with trips to Vegas and a pretty Chinese-American girl I had a crush on (we were the only two students of Chinese descent). Other classmates: a 6'4" literature major married to a beautiful petite blond, a guy who bought one of the first Honda Civics, and a law student from Japan with perfect hair down to her butt. I grew my own hair down to the shoulder blades.

In '74 I also took my first trip to Toronto. Three Asian classmates from HK pulled up in front of my (parents') house while I was raking leaves in the yard one morning, asked if I wanted to come along, and I jumped in. Four hours later we were eating dim sum on Yonge Street, and cruising down the QEW with Joni Mitchell's Free Man In Paris booming out the rear speakers. On the return trip, the driver took Michigan Avenue from Detroit to Ann Arbor, giving me my first real look at the Detroit 'burbs.

The fall of '74 I met Lin, a graduate student in meterology from Taipei. He was the one who turned me on to Duane and Greg Allmans' "Brothers and Sisters" and Van Morrison's "San Anselmo." He went on to MIT, and was also the guy who met me at Logan in 1981 when I flew in to surprise a girlfriend at her friend's recital at the NE Conservatory.

The Winter '75 semester also included Chinese History and Chinese Literature. Lots of time in Mason Hall. Exams were usually of the "Here are 6 essay questions, of which 4 will appear on the exam. Be ready to write your responses." I would write reponses to all 6, then memorize them word for word the night before. Neil Sedaka's Immigrant got a lot of play during that time, and for some reason will always be associated with Final Exam week.

I promptly dropped out of school for the third time the fall of '75.

WHAT $68BIL USD?

ALOHA !!

I have been busy lately as I have to get some construction work done here before my contractor turns into a cop! Literally my GO TO construction dude is so fed up with the biz that he applied to the HILO POLICE ACADEMY and got in. He turns into "Mr. Brett ... SIR" on July 6th!!! I told him that next time he comes onto my property he better have a warrant!

Speaking of WARRANTS!

There are so MANY lies going on today around Wall Street and the US FED and the US TREASURY that you need a road map ... like when you visit Hollywood for the first time! A tour of the bottomless black hole money pits!

Let me start with GOLDMAN SACHS ... Lest we have all forgotten the only way you could qualify for TARP was to be a Bank Holding Company(BHC). Recall that investment banks like GOLDMAN SACHS and MORGAN STANLEY did not qualify, so they, voluntarily, and with a great deal of haste, changed to a BHC. I documented this using the "Bank Hierarchy Reports" on PEER GROUP ONE banks. There are no more investment banks with Peer Group One status in America. Suspicious behavior for banks who are solvent! So, I ask ... If all along Goldman Sachs and Morgan Stanley required no TARP then why did they hastily change their banking status to that of a BHC? They could have stayed as investment banks ... Imagine the great TV ads they could put out now ... GOLDMAN SACHS THE ONLY GREAT INVESTMENT BANK LEFT IN AMERICA ... WE SUCCEEDED WHERE ALL THE OTHERS FAILED! Not that the US FED or its member banks ever have to advertise. The MAFIA doesn't advertise ...

In this week's article of REVENUE BREAKDOWN I plan to have a link to the Linus Wilson analysis entitled THE GOLDMAN SACHS WARRANTS, where you will see that $5BIL is a lowball of all warrants for the ten banks and Wilson's estimate has a high end of $24BIL USD, but then that depends on how many shares the US TREASURY will renege on. So nothing is as it seems with TARP.

I also have some info on how the Congressional Budget Office(CBO)is trying to get "jiggy" with how the TARP outlays will be reported. More accounting magic that put ENRON out of business, yet HB&B and the US CONgress thrive on this sort of fraud! US TREASURY is a hot bed of accounting flaws with "jiggy" roads to nowhere!

Really ... please ... the only way to fix the system is to crash the system and it seems that is where our elected leaders are headed.

I am watching the US TREASURY for that $68BIL USD. Nothing on June 9th, except that someone heisted $33MIL USD from the US TAXPAYER on TARP and didn't repay a dime. So who took that $33MIL? WHO CARES ITS ONLY $33MIL!!!

Do not fall for the lies ... they are getting so fast and thick as soon as I hear or read something coming from these guys my first thought is WHERE'S THE BIG LIE HIDING? All they are doing is juggling lies in hopes that enough time will go by that the masses will have totally forgotten!

QUESTION AUTHORITY ...

Re: Quick question

G, by now, someone may have posted. I have no answers, only questions just like yours but I went back to the max pain site and....wait...its awesome, I scrolled down and found some explanations. Not enough for the densa master that I am but, if I try it on enough stocks I may learn something. Don't be discouraged. Give a shout if you figure it out.
It is usually bsi87 who speaks of max pain. I have learned to listen when he comments. His rsi capitulation calls are usually predictive of a change.
I agree with the frustrating aspect of wanting someone to TELL me what it means. When I finally get it it will be my knowledge not theirs
peace from north Puget Sound
photogray

The Reader

David- If you haven't seen it, you can now rent it from NetFlix. I would avoid the bad reviews, as I think they're wrong. The best so far this year.

RE oil new, RSI... FranSix, Alberio

With respect to your discussion last Friday, just getting caught up, too busy and not enough time.
http://caracommunity.com/content/caras-commentary-...
http://caracommunity.com/content/caras-commentary-...

Note sure if anyone else has already replied or not.
I agree you will see slight differences in the stated RSI values from different sources, all depends on how its calculated and what data base they are using.

For this particular case ie $WTIC on Stockcharts, they state it is the "Light Crude - Continuous Contract", the base may have changed as I remember years ago it was the "West Texas Intermediate Crude - Continuous Contract". When I checked several other futures sources they are close but not exactly the same, of course there are also many different oil contracts, grades and delivery points. Also when looking at a continuous rolling front month contract I'm not sure how they roll from one month to the next and whether some smooth the rollover. Its just not that simple and is further complicated by the number of different contract data bases the charts and calcs could be based on.

Now say for "Gold Corp" GG, there is only one company and one stock (one CUSIP#), so the calcs from all sources should be based on the same data and yield the same RSI number, Right ? , nope Wrong, not exactly.

For starters most charting services use the raw daily close, Stockcharts adjusts their data base for divs etc and then back adjusts the historic data. If GG paid a $1 div today all services would show the same close for today but historically Stockcharts would adjust the previous closes down by $1. Thus the calcs for RSI would now be on slightly different data bases yielding different numbers. This data adjustment is very similar to the way Options are adjusted but they only do it for special divs of more than 10% of the stock price and not the regular monthly or quarterly divs. Note as this adjustment affects historic price it will also affect other indicators and overlays, if you are comparing between services.

Currency ? The world value of GG may be constant but if the US and Canadian dollars are going in different directions I could have a rising RSI in one and a falling RSI in the other. The stock may not be breaking out, it may be just the plotted currency which is breaking down.

Data set for the calculation ? RSI is a rolling calculation, although you can obtain a crude RSI-14 value for todays close with only 14 previous closes, the smoothing which comes from the previous calcs will yield a more accurate result. Stockcharts has a very good explanation page with a link to an Excel spreadsheet showing the calcs for the first 3-4 rolling values, Note they use a min of 250 data points to calc the RSI - 14 value.

http://stockcharts.com/school/doku.php?id=chart_sc...

As an example of data base size I expanded the spread sheet to cover 500 previous days of data, and then calculated the RSI-14 value for the subject index $WTIC crude oil light. I ran data thru the spread sheet for 14, 50, 250 and 500 days of historic data, with the following results. SC reported the value for today as 74.06

76.36---15
74.49---50
74.06---250
74.06---500

As you can see by 250 data points the value is pretty stable and probably why Stockcharts use that much data.

Sorry for the ramble, but hope it helps to give you a little more background.

Re: Quick question

photogray, I did get some feedback and several referred to bsi87 for information in this area. Investing is a continual learning experience, but it can sure be frustrating. :) Thanks for the response, G

Nikkei surpasses 10000 before pulling back

First time since last October.

Being Wrong

vinod- There's nothing wrong with being wrong. We're wrong at some point every day. So what?

There IS something wrong with not being able to admit we're wrong. That would be a serious obstacle to cutting losses quickly.

Like most people, I have a tendency to downplay my gains, whereas losses are taken more personally. It's human nature (at least mine), and it certainly doesn't help. Allowing myself to fully experience natural emotions while simultaneously leaving them out of the decision-making process is when I make my best moves. It's all mental.

Palm - jon rubenstein named ceo

great for palm

Palm appoints former iPod whiz Jon Rubinstein as its new chief executive

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/Palm-appoints-exAppl...

Re: Palm - jon rubenstein named ceo

They're putting a good team together, creating jobs and value, I wish them the best.

Oz Morgan Stanley analyst with Tom Keene 9th June Itunes

Nice to hear an HB@B analyst suggest:

1. Rally unsustainable. Targets similar to Bill.

2. Oil rally suspect. Commodities with futures market (like copper) out of sync with other commodities like Iron.

3. Policy makers never had a clue. coordination may well suffer due to different policy agendas diverging following critical phase - e.g., those wanting to export their way out against those who can't take these imports.

4. Investors selling the 10yr, buying the 2yr notes - profit taking. Extreme credit conditions unwinding.

5. Post crisis, takes issue with present pricing of S&P. Suggests V shape recovery, which he is skeptical of.

6. Not impressed by Washington's resolution of debt issue. Debt has simply been transferred from private sector to public sector, with no improvement in outcome.

7. Makes point on deflation. Where everyone is concerned about inflation, debt deflation is big concern, and is probably what drives Fed policy. That is, companies that were not overly stretched in debt will find themselves increasingly so as revenues drop. Hence urge to create positive GDP at all costs.

8. Using extreme policy tools that Washington is not familiar with is going to cause backlashes in recovery.

134 billion in bonds smuggled

US Bond yields are most likely going to spike up tomorrow after reading this article.

http://www.asianews.it/index.php?l=en&art=15456&si...

Re: ENER

I owned it about 20 years ago — read an article on their advances in batteries back then. Made out pretty well for a few moths then got out. I've checked it every so often, but not too impressed.

I see the whole solar concept as the way to go. Read an article last year about a German scientist who claims US southwest desert area large enough to generate our total needs. Same with Middle East for all of Europe.

While a seemingly brilliant idea, he realized the political obstacles would be the stopper.

Those who tried to come on the scene in the 1970s had no chance of success. I expect the same once again.

Maybe this Chinese company could be an exception.

http://tinyurl.com/cjncuj

Re: Being Wrong

"There IS something wrong with not being able to admit we're wrong. That would be a serious obstacle to cutting losses quickly."

Examples:
Nixon — Watergate
George III — No taxation without...
George W — WMD

Apologies to any Georges: Just coincidence, I'm sure:-)

Banks today

Any feel for bank stocks today? XLF,FAS/FAZ.

I've had luck with little nibbles, but not bold enough to hold on to the many big run ups (FAS).
My long is V (Visa)which I got at the very bottom.

Europe looks flat this AM.

Ciao, Z

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