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Community Chat -- Comments return!

We've decided to bring back comments with two safeguards against inappropriate comments. Before going into detail, everyone should go and review the community rules to make sure they are familiar with what we expect.

The first is that there is now a star rating system below each comment. If a comment is rated low enough by multiple people, it will get hidden by default. Please don't use this to hide comments you disagree with -- it is intended for comments that are breaking the rules. We'll probably have to experiment with this system, and I'll keep an eye on the site to make sure it works out. We also will use the rankings to determine the most highly-ranked comments, and will probably present those in some way.

The second is that we have a link on the right side of the front page in blue, labeled "Complaint Hotline". If someone is causing a problem, click that and tell us what is going on. This will go to a list of six different people (including myself), and whoever can deal with the problem first will take care of it. Hopefully this will not be used too often, as the rating system should take care of most problems.

We'll keep an eye on this and see how it works out. Feedback is welcome.

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Comments are back

I'm posting this comment just to let those who watch the comment feed on Skype know that comments have been re-enabled.

great to have this section back

cant wait to start ranting about gold miners again!!!! ;)

Re: great to have this section back

a reminder: it looks like you can vote on your own post.
tsk tsk tsk.

Thank you Bill for this community and its comments.

Hello all. This community and its comments mean a great deal to me even though I am not a value added poster by my own rating system. There is nothing like it out there and I want to thank Bill and the others who work to keep this up.
peace from North Puget Sound

Re: great to have this section back

Yeah, I may want to disable people voting on their own post. But I did set the threshold high enough that it only takes a handful of 1-star votes to overwhelm a 7-star vote.

Natural tendency

I think the natural tendency is for the star system to indicate whether we like or dislike the comment (which is not so bad actually), but not necessarily whether the author followed the rules.

GDXJ

Found this new ETF that started trading yesterday just passing bit of info. on that others might find useful.GDXJ Market Vectors Junior Gold Miners, could be useful in the future, I will be keeping an eye on it.
A summary here:
http://tinyurl.com/yjxswfl

Re: Natural tendency

You can rate the quality of the comment with 2+ stars, but one star is labelled "spam/offensive" and can be used to indicate whether the author followed the rules.

Re: GDXJ

Thanks, tis the giving season almost...this sector may keep on giving.

Bill...thanks

Thanks for all you do (edit: and posters who conceptualize and add value by sharing strategies daily)...I am growing like a weed in my knowledge and risk management techniques; also, sorry to hear about Mr. Simons (may be spelled incorrectly), best wishes and heartfelt prayers to his family and yours!

Trading mechanism?

Agree, it's great to be back up. Thank you Bill.

It seems volume has been low even though the market has risen a lot over the past few days? I'm supposing that it depends on the periods to which you compare the volume.

I'm only slightly invested and am doing my best to avoid the bait and stay away from US market based stocks until I see a good reason to increase. But it's torture watching this market and it makes me wonder whether I'm with the masses who will be on the wrong end of this for a few more months even if it then ends. It seems unlikely that there won't be a substantial reversal, but it also seems like the market can be manipulated for a long time. The fact that the market can drop hundreds or maybe thousands of points in a matter of minutes is what makes the small guys so vulnerable to HB&Bs. It makes me think that a mechanism should be put in place where, in the event sell volume reaches a certain rate on a given day, all sales orders are held for prorata execution at an overall prorata price at end of day. This would take away a lot of the "unfair" advantage of the big guys making a killing off the smalls when they decide to pull the plug. I haven't thought this out yet, that's for sure, but I'm throwing it out there as an idea. I'm sure many would scream that this is more intervention, but maybe something like that is needed given where we stand today. I don't have a room full of super computers and 40 guys waiting to press the button on 40 holdings. What happened to investing? This is a joke.

Will you keep the 'jump to

Will you keep the 'jump to oldest unread post' feature? Thanks to all.

Check out the volume on FAZ

reported by Marty Chenard.

http://www.stocktiming.com/Wednesday-DailyMarketUp...

Any thoughts as to what is going on, I agree with the author that this could have market moving consequences.

ZIM GROUND REPORT

ALOHA !!

Bill ... thanks!

ZIM GROUND REPORT

I love "Ground Reports"!! This is where your boots are on the ground and we get unfiltered data from sources that have no connection to the US media matrix. I love this about the internet. Imagine if all this US government and US FED intervention was happening before the internet was invented. Just how much "reality" and "truth" would WE THE PEOPLE ever know? A trickle? Any?

Elliot Waver Alf Field took a recent trip to Zimbabwe and has noted some miraculous changes there. I believe Alf Field lives in South Africa or once did, so he knows Africa. As he notes once Mugabe(who is 86) is gone then the the People will thrive even more.

In essence Zimbabwe got rid of the corrupt central bank and reneged on the debt and is in the process of getting rid of its DC rolled up into one dictator name Mugabe. Perhaps after Mugabe is gone Zimbabwe will have one of the only actual "free markets" on Earth!

Some very interesting times ahead for the People of Zimbabwe and very well deserved after decades of debt oppression and taxation without representation and 1000% corruption of money. Could this be our own road map some day?

LINK: http://www.kitco.com/ind/Field/nov112009.html

Re: Trading mechanism?

It's worse than all that, federico. We now have a 400-strong team of traders working for the Fed's super duper hedge fund according to the WSJ. Oh, and GS has captured all our phantom QE dollars and has bypassed 'guys waiting to press buttons' with a hyper nano fast computer trading system that allows it to make billion dollar gains every day, day after day. That's what you call a 'jobless recovery' in the MSM.

Watching JO and BAL etfs to add to my gold and silver hoard.

Thanks for keeping the chat open, Bill. Hope I don't get flung.

By the way, bankers have a new motto: "extend and pretend." In economics, is that like pulling demand out of a black hole and into the present? Anyone?

Wild swings in fuel hedging

Example of how you think you have one type of trade/investment exposure when in actuality you simply owned a giant commodities speculator.

Is the business air travel or is it a derivatives trader?

So you looked at some fundamentals, good GDP report, things picking up in Macau gambling, expanding middle class looking to travel, and you think of Chinese airlines. Maybe even the charts look good.

Whoa! Come earnings report time and look out for those “wild swings in both the profits and losses of their fuel 'hedging' position.”

Business Insider: “That Chinese Company Might Actually Be A Giant Pile Of Derivatives (CCA, ZNH)”

http://tinyurl.com/yfuc9a7

(FD: No positions)

Virus scan

Everyone may want to do a virus scan, if this is timely because my AVG just caught one from, I am assuming this site, but could be other sites since I do have several tabs, as in four open presently; this AVG is awesome!
(edit: I am not saying it was caught in a self generated scan, but that the virus shield caught the virus attempting to sneak into my computer)

And thanks Korvus or whoever reinstated the spell check.

Pulse taken: Fed's promise to freeze rates

Wondering how this community feels about FNMA bonds with the Fed's 'promise' not to raise key interest rates before August 2010? Is this an admission of defeat or open window to borrow for HB&B?

Ratings

After talking to Bill, I just made a change so that people can't see the average rating for each post. What we'd like to do is let people know how they are being rated, but I don't have that set up just yet. I don't want too much thought given to the actual rating, but I want low-quality comments filtered out and may use the average comment rating to determine who regularly provides high-quality comments. I'm open to discussion on how best to do this.

Re: Virus scan

I don't currently have a reason to believe there are any virus problems on this site, but let me know if others see similar problems.

FYI, spell checking is usually implemented in the browser. Firefox will usually do spell checking by default. I believe some other browsers do it as well. If it wasn't working for a while, it might be because you changed browsers or the feature somehow got broken in a browser. I don't believe any of our changes would have affected that.

Breaking News

H-P to buy 3Com for $2.7B

HPQ & 3Com

3com closed at $5.67, offered $7.90. that is 40% premium.

More on HPQ & 3Com

From the conference call, HP's acquisition is motivated by 3Coms' position in Chinese Market. HP bought EDS a year ago which proved to be strategically favorable. I wonder if this move is more of a competition to IBM in the IT space than is to CSCO.

BRCD was once a potential take-over target and is now traded off 5%+- on the news after hour.

Yes, Thank you Bill for providing a forum to share.

Re: Ratings

Korvus,

I think having obnoxious comments rated as such for language, prejudicial comments, etc. is fine and will probably result in people taking more time to think before sending, but it seems to me rating comments as to "quality" is so subjective that it will be:

1. A lot of time and trouble for you

2. Stifling to open discussion and opinion

Readers can always simply choose to ignore those whose comment they see as habitually useless or even just click the ignore feature.

market rallying on "bad" news, selling off on "good" news

Here is a page that I bookmarked today and that I will read on every 10th of the month:

http://www.pimco.com/LeftNav/ContentArchive/Defaul...

The latest commentary by Paul McCulley is most interesting. Here are some key quotes from it:

"All risk asset prices are analytically the Net Present Value of expected growth in cash flows, discounted by the appropriate-duration risk-free rate plus a risk premium. Thus, expectations of a friendly-for-longer Fed policy would be supportive of risk assets, as they (1) tend to pull down long-duration risk-free rates, while also (2) pulling down the market-required risk premium (which moves inversely with investors’ animal-spirited risk appetite, which moves inversely with fears of Fed tightening).

Thus, ironically, the biggest intermediate-term risk for risk assets is not that the big-V doesn’t unfold, but that it does, inciting the Fed to bring the extended period of a near-zero policy rate to a close. But again, you retort, doesn’t that imply that in the absence of the big-V, risk asset prices could levitate into bubble valuation space? Yes, it does mean that. And that is a very, very uncomfortable proposition for those grounded in fundamental analysis, as I am."

This might explain why the "good" economic reports were recently sold, and the "bad" report of unemployment higher than consensus has propelled the market higher. If the same pattern keeps up in the future, do not be surprised..

I would also like to point out that Bill Gross, a colleague of Paul McCulley, wrote in his latest commentary a couple of days ago:

"Investors must recognize that if assets appreciate with nominal GDP, a 4–5% return is about all they can expect even with abnormally low policy rates. Rage, rage, against this conclusion if you wish, but the six-month rally in risk assets – while still continuously supported by Fed and Treasury policymakers – is likely at its pinnacle. Out, out, brief candle."

preparing for tomorrow

I have just picked up some SRS after hours at $9.01. Even though IYR had retested today its mid-October high, the AD line for IYR right now is below even the October 2 low!

http://www.masterdata.com/Reports/Combined/ADLine/...

This shows that IYR is not being bid up uniformly as a sector, but rather there are last few leaders standing, and when they go down, IYR will crash. I also placed a twice larger buy stop limit order on SRS at 9.25/9.3, so as to catch a sell-off should it start tomorrow.

A similar internal weakness is apparent in Russell 2000:

http://www.masterdata.com/Reports/Combined/ADLine/...

There is no uniformity anymore in the stocks being bid up as an asset class. I have just placed a buy stop limit order on TZA at $12.1/$12.2.

SOMETHING BIG IS ABOUT TO HAPPEN

Here are some excerpts from yesterday's letter by David Rosenberg:

SOMETHING BIG IS ABOUT TO HAPPEN
Looking at the latest Commitment of Traders (COT) report, we can see some pretty interesting (and potentially disturbing) trends taking place (data for November 3rd):

- The only areas where the speculators (non-commercial accounts) are net short are in Treasuries and in the U.S. dollar. Everything else has massive net speculative longs and hence near-term vulnerable to a reversal.
- There is a significant net long position on the S&P 500 to the tune of 208,448 contracts on the Chicago Mercantile Exchange (CME).
- There is also a huge net speculative short position on the U.S. dollar (the ‘carry trade’). For example, on the CME, we have 24,389 net speculative long CAD positions; 50,264 net speculative long contracts on the Australian dollar, and 28,036 net longs on the Euro. These are huge numbers. What happens if/when the U.S. dollar ever undergoes a countertrend rally?
- The largest speculative long positions are in the commodity space (this is near-term bearish), 271,564 gold contracts (a record) on the Commodity Exchange (COMEX); 44,312 net longs on silver (near-record but not quite), West Texas Intermediate oil contracts on the New York Mercantile Exchange (also a record); 10,871 net long copper contracts (a new cycle high); 5,538 net speculative long contracts on the Goldman Sachs Commodity Index.

Re: Breaking News

It looks like someone got a head start on the announcement.

http://tinyurl.com/y9s4mtn

The new Chat is up

I will try to have the market commentary and discussion started each day within three or four hours after the close. One of the biggest problems I find with many investors is that they spend too much time discussing the past and not enough planning the next day. Hopefully, the earlier start here will help.

Re: The new Chat is up

looking forward to setting up better every day...thanks.

I am also more organized and try to keep a paper log of my trades, times, and influences which helps definitely to not repeat the same mistakes, but I also think temptation and impulsiveness must be first cousins.

Re: The new Chat is up

Bill, for us lazy types, is it practical for you to post a link to the new Chat when you put it up?. Seems like you might have it readily available. I'm not looking to add to your workload, which never cease to amaze me.

Cara Community Suggestions

We have to create a new login to make suggestions or even rank the ones already made by others and must use a non Cara-Community ID!

My suggestion is that this should NOT be so and the Community Suggestions should be from those who are verified members of the community (and not an 'outsider')

Suggestions

I am not in favor of this system. It seems like additional work for the Cara Team and inefficient

plus, this against everything BC believes in.

Sorry, this is not a Free System and I have to support free speech

:(

vb

Re: Cara Community Suggestions

I second that motion, mSquare.

Community / Regional Banks

Hi All - Glad to see the comments are back up. Bill - my condolences on the loss of your good friend. Death makes life seem a lot more special. I've lost people close to me and it makes me really question my life. I hope you pull through things a clearer thinking person.

On a side note, has anyone looked at any of the regional banks at all? I know there are serious issues with commercial real estate loans, but with all of these smaller banks going under, a lot of them are getting lots of assets basically for free when they partner with the FDIC and the FDIC assumes a lot of the risk. I think some of these could be huge gainers over the next 3 to 5 years. I'm looking at RF and HBAN. Both of them have had nice pull backs, providing a cheaper entry point. And from a technical perspective, they look like they have the 200 DMA as some support and their 200 DMA is beginning to slope upward, finally.

Is anyone else following regionals? Which ones do you like?

Re: Community / Regional Banks

teamonfuego, I have just sold some naked calls on KRE today. :) Maybe in 3-5 years some of these banks will be higher than they are now, but I think ALL of them will be MUCH lower at some point within the next year, when investors wake up to the second wave of mortgage resets. Just look at the performance of the KRE index over the past year -- seems pretty shameful in the face of such a rally in S&P and even KBE.

Re: Community / Regional Banks

TOF, UMPQ has always remained at the back of my mind cause the Motley Fool team had it on their buy list. West coast, well managed, approachable and honest CEO etc etc. But they sold it a month or so ago, citing fears of the coming commercial meltdown. Caution there mate. Perhaps once fear sets in (again) and blood is on the streets...

Re: Community / Regional Banks

David - I hear what people are saying but these companies have raised enough capital in my mind to get through the downturn and this yield curve is a big bonus for them. The jobs pictures isn't turning around quick enough for the Fed to raise rates soon so the yield curve will continue to be good for them.
So I think the issues that people are concerned about are already priced into these stocks which are down some 80 to 90% from their highs. Add in that they have gotten some high quality deposits basically for free from the FDIC assisted bank closings and I think they are long term winners.

FD: I bought a bunch of RF at $4.92 and HBAN at $3.87 this morning. Support is at the 200 DMA...

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